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No Cronje for Currie Cup?


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 4 Jun 2010 at 09:32
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Hopes that young Guy Cronje might emerge as the front-runner for the Sharks number 10 jersey this Currie Cup season seem to be fading fast, with the young player still a month away from being able to take full part in training, following off-season surgery.

Perhaps more concerning, though, is the fact that the former Michaelhouse star has been named in the Under 21 squad, rather than the full-blown Currie Cup training group. His brother Ross is training with the seniors and will no doubt provide cover at scrumhalf at some stage during the course of the campaign, but it is surprising to me that Guy, deemed good enough to play Currie Cup rugby last year, seems set to miss out a year later.

Perhaps it’s a sensible decision, given that he’s been out of rugby for a long time and making his comeback via the Under 21 competition could be good for his confidence. Then again, the Sharks are still stuck without a regular flyhalf for the competition, unless Pat Lambie is the man who will be handed that responsibility. No further information has been forthcoming as to whether Andre Pretorius has come through his fitness tests unscathed, while Monty Dumond – always a good option at Currie Cup level – appears to lack the backing of the coaching staff.

In something of a surprising twist, though, two real youngsters have been training with the senior squad and may possibly stake a claim for Currie Cup game time this year. Jaco van Tonder and Piet Lindeque are both players who were snapped up by the Sharks after impressing at Craven Week in the last few years. The former is a flyhalf from Outeniqua in SWD, whilst the latter played outside centre for Grey Kollege and Free State for two years and represented SA Schools last year.



46 Comments

  • WHY DONT YOU SHARKS DEVELOP TALENT, INSTEAD OF BUYING EVERYONE??!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.06.10 09:48:06 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 1) : dude, the number of promising young flyhalves in the system is frankly staggering… and yet, what’s the bet we rather buy in a guy like Pretorius than actually play any of them?

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.06.10 09:49:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 1) : someone had to say that, now that we have dealt with it, let’s have a sensible rugby discussion ;-)

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.06.10 09:49:15 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I was just giving the standard comment about the Sharks being poachers/buyers/whatever else and “apparently” everyone else develops their own talent, OK, steam blown

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.06.10 09:51:01 by war1 Reply
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  • Okay, hang on… From the blog I take it that Jaco van Tonder and Piet Lindeque would be the Sharks developing talent. Apart from the attempted purchase of Petoors and the rest of the Free State they are looking at bringing in the best young talent and developing them. This is the same way the Bulls manage things…

    Derick Hougaard was from Boland landbou, Gerhard van den Heever was Cruywen Week player of the tournament – the Bulls ran a compitition during the tournament and offered the player of the tournament the opportunity to run on for the Bulls in a C/Cup match. Luckily for Gerhard he scored a lovely try in his run on and was offered the opportunity to stay…

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.06.10 09:57:34 by SandTiger Reply

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  • @SandTiger (Comment 5) : my 1st comment was a lil tongue-in-cheek

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.06.10 09:59:46 by war1 Reply
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  • I think its great, we are “buying” and giving them a chance to develop,
    War1, who do you support?

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.06.10 10:00:08 by willa Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 4) : The primary reason why there is a gap in the Sharks development is because the grass roots rugby in Sharks territory has always been club based where as players in the other provinces get groomed further at University… This is likely the reason why Peter Grant ended up playing for the Stormers – because he studied in Cape Town.

    The Sharks would benefit tremendously if club rugby received the same support as varsity rugby, but also if club rugby started playing younger players in their first teams…

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.06.10 10:02:11 by SandTiger Reply

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  • @War1 dude i know what you mean sharks tend to overlook the kzn schools and buy all over south africa.lmao that said don’t get mad coz we such a rich union.as 4 guy i hope he is draftd into the senior team after a few under 21 games

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.06.10 10:02:24 by Poisy Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 7) : dude, im a sharks supporter, and I agree totally with you

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.06.10 10:04:00 by war1 Reply
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  • Hey, guys, comment 1 was pure undiluted SARCASM!

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.06.10 10:05:38 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 11) : I think your comments may have backfired, bro :)

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.06.10 10:08:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : yes, they did

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.06.10 10:10:06 by war1 Reply
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  • @SandTiger (Comment 8) : my impression is that the club game in Durban is vibrant and strong – far more so than in most other parts of the country.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.06.10 10:12:12 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : It is, but what is a player to do when he gets out of school and wants to go study, or is even bought by a Varsity? That player – developed by the Sharks as a Junior – is gone…

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.06.10 10:20:30 by SandTiger Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 1) :
    I’m just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.06.10 10:24:34 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @SandTiger (Comment 15) :
    Agree: the lack of a strong ‘varsity rugby culture in KZN is hurting player development: strong club rugby on its own is not enough.

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.06.10 10:26:35 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Hopefully it is just a case of easing him back in slowly.

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.06.10 10:58:39 by lostfish Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 1) :

    Bulls: Victor Matfield, Zane Kirchner, Bryan Habana, Derick Hougaard, Jaco Pretorius, Morne Steyn, Wickus van Heerden, Dewald Potgieter, Heinie Adams, Francois Hougaard, Akona Ndungane, Bandise Maku, Tiger Mangweni, Gurthro Steenkamp, Deon Stegmann, Gerhard van den Heever, Jaco van der Westhuyzen, Pedrie Wannenburg.

    Go and check these names, not schooled/developed/born in BB country.

    Everyone does it.

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.06.10 11:47:18 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 3) : so cronje is out who else do we have in this department : i’d say stick with monty untill the development’s going – he’s good enough for CC.

    I still think Rua’n should have been properly shaken but now it’s academic hence he is Ulster-bound.

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.06.10 11:53:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 16) : Lord seems to have left war1 on his own with this one. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.06.10 12:00:25 by rekinek Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 11) : for what’s worth I read comment 3 before responding to 1 ;-)

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.06.10 12:01:14 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 19) : Matfield born and bred in Bulls country (Polokwane/Pietersburg). May have been Far North when he was born.

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.06.10 13:21:01 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 23) : and yet made his provincial debut for Griquas

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.06.10 13:35:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @MysticShark (Comment 23) : The point was as Rob pointed out, like many others at the Bulls, they made their name elsewhere first. Who last played at 10 for the Bulls and is a true Blue born, raised and schooled and never played elsewhere?

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.06.10 13:48:16 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 25) : Morne Steyn. Bad example.

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.06.10 13:55:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Baldrick (Comment 25) : Bulls Craven week and under 21, 1 year at Griquas and then back at the Bulls.
    I agree with the point he’s making but Matfield is not a good example. We (Shark supporters) are always quick to point out that Lem and Jouba are Natal boys, but they did made their name somewhere else first.

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.06.10 14:12:17 by MysticShark Reply
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  • Just pick a guy and stick it out, Venter, Cronje or whoever else, or pick Dumond and let him be.

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.06.10 14:24:58 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 28) : as long as its not Pretorius or another foreigner :roll:

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.06.10 14:27:06 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 29) : even Pretorius would be preferable to another foreigner

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.06.10 14:41:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hey!!! well done Sharks 2 great young talents…Piet Really has some serious wheels. If that boy breaks the line his Gone. Van Tonder is a ball player little Benson Stanley!!!! Gr8 Sharks Now I can gO AND eNJOY wACKEY wINE….

    How About Francois van Schouenberg as a Sharks Lock!!! just finished his Zuma Year…..what a gr8 lock signing

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.06.10 15:09:56 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : My concern is AP’s injury woes, not his playing skills. It would be a waste of good money

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.06.10 15:35:02 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 31) : he’s retired already, hasn’t he?

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.06.10 15:45:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • Perhaps it’s a sensible decision, given that he’s been out of rugby for a long time and making his comeback via the Under 21 competition could be good for his confidence

    100% in agreement

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.06.10 15:45:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • still playes a bit of club rugby-remember a MR. Ackerman-LOCK RETIRE hurt not [email protected]robdylan (Comment 33) :

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.06.10 15:49:41 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : can U remember a LOCK named Cliffie Milton? That boy can hurt BAKKIES….WE MUST GET C mILTON…EVEN SOUNDS LIKE A SHARK…

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.06.10 15:52:02 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 36) :

    En daar skree jy alweer. :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.06.10 15:58:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 36) : Would that be the same Cliffie Milton who played for the Bulls :?:

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.06.10 15:59:07 by diablo (VICTORY! sweeter on neutral ground!) Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 36) : I’m not convinced we need more locks… seems to be the one position where we really are well covered.

    What can you tell me about young Theissinger? He hasn’t played at all for 18 months or more…

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.06.10 16:03:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @diablo (VICTORY! sweeter on neutral ground!) (Comment 38) : I believe it would be

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.06.10 16:04:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • I dont think that the Cronjes are good Enough to play senior rugby.

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.06.10 16:26:45 by Tiger Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 40) : @robdylan (Comment 39) : Good Player very solid, Breaks the line more often than most. Likes the random intercept…similar to the caliber of player as A jONG Marius Joubert…

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.06.10 17:02:05 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @BoerSeun (Comment 36) : screaming what ever :smile: go the the big guys and tell them that they like to buy from over broad maybe they’ll listen to you and if they don’t put them to the tree and make them listen ;-)

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.06.10 17:03:41 by chaz Reply

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  • @Tiger (Comment 41) : put them with the senior guys and you shall see what they become boys got to become men stimes :oops:

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.06.10 17:04:52 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 44) : Naaaa dont think so, someone likes them at the Sharks, well they are Family of Hannsie Cronje, so that must count for something.

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.06.10 18:17:04 by Tiger Reply

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  • @Tiger (Comment 45) : oh my family politics :oops:
    not aload on the site sorry :cry: ;-)

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.06.10 18:56:32 by chaz Reply

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