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NZ, SA coaches do THEIR sparring in the media


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Posted in :All Blacks, In the news, Springboks on 5 Jul 2010 at 14:55
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The verbal jousting between New Zealand and South Africa was stepped on Monday when the All Black assistant coach Steve Hansen described Springbok mentor Peter de Villiers as a man with an “upside down mouth”.

This follows after De Villiers told a media gathering in Johannesburg that he and his All Black rival Graham Henry have one thing in common – they both have “big mouths”.

Hansen, who said he hadn’t read about De Villiers’ remarks, still felt it necessary to comment.

“He’s got an upside down mouth. He’s one of those unfortunate people born with an upside down smile,” he told NZPA.

As for the pre-match verbal jousting, Hansen said: “I don’t want to comment on that. It’s just mind games from two very astute coaches.”

De Villiers was responding to questions – before his team’s departure in Johannesburg – about remarks made by Henry and All Black captain Richie McCaw, who suggested that South Africa “played less rugby” than New Zealand and Australia and would have to be “forced out of their comfort zone”.

“Graham Henry is a good coach, but he’s like me, he has a big mouth,” De Villiers said.

“I don’t understand what they mean by playing less rugby. We all play for 80 minutes. And we are never in a comfort zone. We try to improve week by week, even if it’s just by half-a-percent.”

South Africa head into the tournament as the reigning champions and having whitewashed New Zealand 3-0 last year.

However, Hansen didn’t believe the All Blacks were suffering from any hangover from those run of defeats.

He felt they had come through their one-off test against Ireland and two-match series against Wales last month in good shape mentally.

“I know there’s a deep down desire to perform well,” he said.

“Having lost the Tri-Nations last year, there’s a huge hunger to win it back.”

He described the lift in intensity in the New Zealand camp over the past few days as natural, given that the All Blacks were about to face a team universally regarded as the best in the world.

“We fancy ourselves as being a fairly handy rugby side too, and it will be a big test match,” he said.

“Tri-Nations rugby involves three of the sides in the top four in the world rankings and there’s a lot at stake. Clearly the tension and pressure that comes with that is a lot greater than normal.”

The Boks face New Zealand in Auckland on Saturday, July 10, and Wellington a week later, before heading to Brisbane to face Australia on July 24.

After that the Boks return home for a month-long break, in which the All Blacks and Wallabies will play back-to-back Tests, before hostilities resume on South African soil.

On August 21 South Africa face New Zealand in the first ever Test in Soweto, before the Boks play back-to-back Tests against Australia – August 28 in Pretoria and September 4 in Bloemfontein.

The tournament is concluded on September 11, when Australia face New Zealand in Sydney

Article Courtesy of Rugby 365



69 Comments

  • De Villiers told a media gathering in Johannesburg that he and his All Black rival Graham Henry have one thing in common – they both have “big mouths”

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.07.10 14:57:09 by KSA Shark © Reply
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    They also have something else in Common.

    Neither has won a RWC.

    Although Henry has had a few attempts at it. :razz:

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.07.10 15:02:56 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • So the Boks is universally regarded as the best in the world and we don’t even play as much Rugby as NZL and AUS. :lol:

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.07.10 15:11:57 by Farlington Reply
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  • Hehehe
    Divvie is really getting under their skins!! :cool:
    They must hate the fact the lost to us 3 times last year!

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.07.10 17:27:27 by wpw Reply
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  • ‘skin’ dammit!! :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.07.10 17:29:28 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : He does have that ability to get under your skins.

    …..i think that stems from the fact that he has the best team in the world that wins consistently and yet he appears to know very little about the game or his opponents.

    ….NZ media love interviewing him.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.07.10 17:34:18 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Well divi has his job cut out for him the WC 2011 he must put his mouth to what he always has said and we will c if we get the WC2011 otherwise we need another Jack White :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.07.10 17:37:51 by chaz Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : yeah, they hate it!!!! Expecially that fool craig dowd that called pdv a ‘puppet’, yet pdv managed to klap their precious all blacks 3 -0, says much to be whitewashed by a puppet!

    Pdv is not scared of them, he has bliksemed them twice in their backyard.

    How many coaches in the world can ever claim to have won 2 year in a row in new zealand? :D

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.07.10 17:41:09 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 6) : did your lv of ur life use that email i sent to u :roll:

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.07.10 17:41:11 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 9) : Not yet….. but soon i hope ! ;-)

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.07.10 17:42:50 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : And you don’t think he is a puppet ! :mrgreen:

    PS Not too much foolish about big Craig …. more of a coach than PDV will ever be !

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.07.10 17:44:32 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 8) : wining the tri is nt so much for me as the WC, so i hope he put his lots of word to put in that mouth of his if we don’t make the WC2011

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.07.10 17:44:49 by chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 10) : u are missing sth out of the bocks my friend if she hasn’t the time u do it it taste great :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.07.10 17:47:22 by chaz Reply

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  • HH
    Was has Craig Dowd achieved as a coach??

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.07.10 17:53:47 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 11) : what has he ever done? Bloody plonker :twisted:

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.07.10 17:58:33 by Megatron Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 14) :

    He coached forwards here at Wasps with Gatland & Edwards for several seasons. Played there as well of course. Like PDv had some good raw material to work with. Apparently he is quite good.

    After the next RWC Gatland and Dowd will fancy themselves.

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.07.10 17:59:52 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 11) : hiw embarrassing for wayne smith, graham henry & that fool steve hansen to be outwitted 3-0 buy a puppet? :razz:

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.07.10 18:00:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 11) : let me remind you that graham henry quit his job with wales before his contract expired an ran home!

    Hansen too was a failure in wales with a record of : played 29, lost 19, won 10, that’s 34
    % record! With the ignominous record of being whitewashed in the nh competition

    so much for puppets :D

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.07.10 18:10:02 by Megatron Reply

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  • HH
    So Dowd has never been a Head coach but just an assistant!!
    I rest my case!! :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.07.10 18:21:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 16) : “apparently” you’re measuring pdv against what you apparently can summise? Give me a break. :x

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.07.10 18:35:50 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 18) :

    I don’t think you want to start comparing coaching CV’s between our national coaches.

    …..and i’m not just talking the last 4 years.

    ….makes someone look like a puppet !

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.07.10 18:38:16 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 20) :

    Good point…..i just feel a bit sorry for the guy really !

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.07.10 18:48:19 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 21) : my point is that imbecile craig dowd called pdv a puppet without knowing who he was and continued to say that gary gold & dick muir were the real brains behind the team ffs, how stupid can one be! So for you to stick up for craig and the sort of utterances he made puts you in his camp of fools!

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.07.10 19:05:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • HH
    With all Henry’s credentials he couldn’t win a RWC with the talent at his disposal. Not even after poaching talented youngsters from the Pacific Islands!! :roll:

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.07.10 19:08:29 by wpw Reply
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  • Well said Megatron. For once we both agree!!

  • Comment 25, posted at 05.07.10 19:12:13 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 23) :

    Call me in the ‘i’m surprised that pdv is the Bok coach camp’

    p.s. I’m not the only member

    p.p.s. Still Craig may be onto something

  • Comment 26, posted at 05.07.10 19:20:14 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 24) :

    As you keep bringing up !

    ….and yeah he does loads of poaching from trhe P.I.’s :roll:

  • Comment 27, posted at 05.07.10 19:22:16 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : @Megatron (Comment 23) :

    Well that’s the coaches covered now for the teams :mrgreen:

  • Comment 28, posted at 05.07.10 19:27:59 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Well ok guys don’t go and fight please Gramham Henry QUIT and
    Hansen a failure oh my what are we going called div’s :roll:

    no one is a better coach if they haven’t got the WC TITLE behind them so div’s has to prove to the World that he can bring the SpringBoks to the world and win it again in 2011 :lol:
    rest my case ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 05.07.10 19:32:06 by chaz Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 28) : oh my u hv a lot of time the evening or is it morning

  • Comment 30, posted at 05.07.10 19:32:52 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 30) : Evening …need to stop wasting my time and bath the kids !

    Over and out….until the teams are named !

  • Comment 31, posted at 05.07.10 19:35:04 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • HH; did you really set up Craig Dowd as a better coach than PDV?

    A coach who has a British Lions victory, a Tri-Nations victory and a 3-0 whitewash of the AB’s? A coach who is in charge of what Nick “17-in-a-row” Mallet calls the best Bok team he has ever seen?

    Compared to a has-bee who has coached the Northern hemisphere props on how to tie a double knot on their rucking boots?

    Overwhelming logic there. :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 05.07.10 19:36:41 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 31) : ok gather its night for you and the kids but don’t let the 2 :evil: boys get to u :roll:
    and wish they would so me can do the FL :mrgreen:
    Cheers :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 05.07.10 19:38:01 by chaz Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 32) : don’t forget that pdv was nick mallet’s backline coach when the “16″ games were won.

  • Comment 34, posted at 05.07.10 19:43:49 by Megatron Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 29) : hey chazzie :D no fighting here love :oops:

  • Comment 35, posted at 05.07.10 19:45:33 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 35) : when u on the fight is always :roll: on but must this don’t know the coaches but the two that is quit and failure is no in my books so must got no hairs for div’s either so well wait and c if he can make it as coach and the WC will do just that :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 05.07.10 19:54:30 by chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 34) : And Jake White was little more than the video technician. So what everyone is actually saying is that Mallett has taught them all well to go out and prosper as Bok coaches :wink:

  • Comment 37, posted at 05.07.10 20:00:51 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 37) : must say Jake White in my eyes is a Springbok coach and others have to prove them selves no matter what if you haven’t a WC title behind your name well that tells the tail doesn’t it ;-)

  • Comment 38, posted at 05.07.10 20:04:16 by chaz Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 37) : yep, jakey was the video machine operator :razz: who had to pack vhs tapes on tour :D

  • Comment 39, posted at 05.07.10 20:04:27 by Megatron Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 36) : no man :-( the fight is not always in when i am here :D people must stop trying to make me mad :lol:

  • Comment 40, posted at 05.07.10 20:05:57 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : :evil: :twisted: Troll he has a WC title behind his name and the team had great respect for him am i wrong or what and a team that lv the coach well it tells me everything but can’t say much about div’s until the WC prove and prove until then just hv to wait and c ;-)

  • Comment 41, posted at 05.07.10 20:07:54 by chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 40) : :oops: hey pulling your leg my bro just pulling :roll: but the title is behind ur name ;-) hey another thing me asking please, :lol:
    can u change ur pic just for the tri nations pretty please maybe well c you as sth new on the blog :lol: :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 42, posted at 05.07.10 20:11:06 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 42) : are you happy now babe? ;)

  • Comment 43, posted at 05.07.10 20:25:26 by Megatron Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 41) : JW has a WC title and a 3N title. PdV has a BI Lions victory, and 3N title (whitwash of NZ). By the end of his stint he may have another 3N, a NH grandslam (this year) and a WC next year… He may be the coach who has won the most in the history of Bok rugger. Too me he can’t be the best – there is only one – Kitch Christie – 100% record + WC. The former can’t be beat by PdV or JW…

  • Comment 44, posted at 05.07.10 20:47:37 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : People forget he got fired by Mallett and fired by the Sharks (he was assistant coach). But he was a successful agegroup coach, like PdV.

    After Dolf’s uninspiring run as Bok coach, JW was the only coach actually willing or mad enough to take on the Bok role!

  • Comment 45, posted at 05.07.10 20:51:27 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 26) : there are many more with that same thought…

  • Comment 46, posted at 05.07.10 21:04:53 by lostfish Reply
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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 45) : yep, jake white and allister coetzee were the assistants to that failure who is the current backline consultant, hugh reece-edwards! And they oversaw probably the worst season in sharks history, winning one game, drawing one & losing the rest!

  • Comment 47, posted at 05.07.10 21:06:13 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 43) : don’t start the SW will think we hv sth on so don’t start u are still a :evil: :twisted: TROLL on SW
    eeeaaahhhh
    :mrgreen: GO SPRINGBOKS GO :mrgreen:
    ;-)

  • Comment 48, posted at 05.07.10 21:09:52 by chaz Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 44) : so the only title that JW hasn’t got is the BI LIONS title and i think and maybe most of us if he was still SB Coach he would of had that to because that only comes in so many years ;-)

  • Comment 49, posted at 05.07.10 21:12:58 by chaz Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 45) : and won the WC2007 so me he is WC Coach

  • Comment 50, posted at 05.07.10 21:14:20 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 48) : sorry i slipped, what time should i call you tonight ;)

  • Comment 51, posted at 05.07.10 21:21:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 44) : read that again over and agree with you nobody can beat either one of them :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 52, posted at 05.07.10 21:21:57 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 48) : do you like my new pic babe? :-)

  • Comment 53, posted at 05.07.10 21:22:38 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: your :evil: and :twisted: Know way u are are a troll and a Saders troll i don’t live under bridges only in a house so its know way its just you are not going to get me there again in deep shit so stay with ur saders team and me with SW team and me will
    b every fine Thank You
    and thats were its going to stay me and Sharks and u with the Saders :mrgreen:

  • Comment 54, posted at 05.07.10 21:30:32 by chaz Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 53) : oh my thats a great pic of the SB now we can c you are a G&G so stop been a troll thats just great and thanks that red saders jereys was getting to much for SW and me too :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 55, posted at 05.07.10 21:34:10 by chaz Reply

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  • Ok till later :mrgreen:

  • Comment 56, posted at 05.07.10 21:37:37 by chaz Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 45) : But don’t forget that Jake took the jaded players and reignited their passion and made the Springboks into something we could be proud of. He made some mistakes and some piss poor selections but at the end of the day he built a team of champions and handed the champs over to Puff Divvy.

  • Comment 57, posted at 05.07.10 21:45:56 by lostfish Reply
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  • @chaz (Comment 56) : will call you later babe ;)

  • Comment 58, posted at 05.07.10 21:46:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 57) : I dont “not rate” Jake (hope that makes sense) and considering all the political BS that he had to put up with he really did well to build the foundations of a great Bok side – Also a WC is no small achievement. I also think PdV is bilding on much of JW’s foundation and is taking it to another level. He has made mistakes, but what I admire about him is that he does recognize and even admit them – followed by rectifying them. What past Bok coaches, in their sometimes blind arrogance even recognise and admit mistakes. Only Mallett, many years after his Teich debacle…

  • Comment 59, posted at 05.07.10 22:12:39 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 59) : bilding = building…

  • Comment 60, posted at 05.07.10 22:15:48 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 59) : true, remember how obstinate harry viljoen was?

  • Comment 61, posted at 05.07.10 22:17:04 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 61) : Sheezus, now that was a hippy-with peroxide hair-mid-life-crisis excuse for a Bok coach :wink:

  • Comment 62, posted at 05.07.10 22:22:27 by HG (Heavens Game - not the sponsor) Reply

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  • @HG (Heavens Game – not the sponsor) (Comment 62) : :lol: and apparently quite wealthy too, wanted the boks to train in Plett and all sort of places of his liking…

  • Comment 63, posted at 05.07.10 22:27:39 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 63) : Yeah, ole “Dirty Harry”

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 26) :

    How can PdV be a puppet with Gold and Muir being the real coaches???????????

    Gold was the coach of the infamous LIGHT five at WP for ages. If you ask me HE is the one riding PdVs coat tails at the Boks.

  • Comment 65, posted at 06.07.10 00:34:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 65) : someone buy that man a beer!

  • Comment 66, posted at 06.07.10 07:02:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 65) : oh, please ksa don’t bring up facts, Hertford & his cronies like lostfish are going on a hunch that pdv is a puppet and that craig dowd is “apparently” a better coach that Div after just working with the forwards at Wasps :roll:

  • Comment 67, posted at 06.07.10 07:23:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • Anyone recall a certain Andre Markgraaff??

    He inherited a World Cup winning team/squad and what did he achieve?? :roll:

    02 Jul 1996 Fiji Win: 43-18
    13 Jul 1996 Australia Lose: 16-21
    20 Jul 1996 New Zealand Lose: 11-15
    03 Aug 1996 Australia Win: 25-19
    10 Aug 1996 New Zealand Lose: 18-29
    17 Aug 1996 New Zealand Lose: 19-23
    24 Aug 1996 New Zealand Lose: 26-33
    31 Aug 1996 New Zealand Win: 32-22
    09 Nov 1996 Argentina Win: 46-15
    16 Nov 1996 Argentina Win: 44-21
    30 Nov 1996 France Win: 22-12
    07 Dec 1996 France Win: 13-12
    15 Dec 1996 Wales Win: 37-20

  • Comment 68, posted at 06.07.10 08:23:37 by wpw Reply
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  • “He’s got an upside down mouth. He’s one of those unfortunate people born with an upside down smile,” he told NZPA.

    Reading that made my day. :cool:

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.07.10 11:47:34 by klempie Reply

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