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De Villiers faces censure


Written by Stu Cooper (Worcestershire Sauce)

Posted in :Original Content, Tri Nations on 23 Jul 2010 at 09:35

SANZAR are to investigate comments made by our very own Peter de Villiers, who has claimed that the referee’s and All Blacks were in cahoots to help generate interest in rugby ahead of the 2011 World Cup in New Zealand.

”I’ve got my own observations about the last two Tests, and I can’t say it in public. But we do have a World Cup in New Zealand next year, and maybe it was the right thing for them to win the games so they can attract more people to the games next year.”

If SANZAR find that De Villiers has brought the game into disrepute following his latest crack pot outburst, they will be forced to censure him adding fuel to the fire that South Africa are being hard done by the powers that be when it comes to the judicial side of the game.

Sanzar representatives said the organisation was ”aware of the comments, but there is no official position on them at this stage”.

Former Wallabie hooker and thug branded the Bok coach a clown and a puppet following the Bok coaches comments.

Cannon, a panellist on The Rugby Club said “I can’t believe that senior players like John Smit and Victor Matfield allow themselves to be controlled by this guy,” he said.

“He is a clown. He surely does not coach the team.”

Bok spokesperson Anthony Mackaiser sprang to Divs defence and issued an ultimatum to Fox Sports that they immediately apologise or no longer have on-air access to South African players or management.

A Fox Sports spokesman has been quoted as saying the apology from Cannon will take place at the start of Saturday night’s test coverage at Suncorp Stadium.

I will believe it when i see it.



81 Comments

  • oh dear dear :roll:

    but must agree that Cannon’s comments were disrespectful and he should apologise. Whatever divvy says one cannot take away from him that he’s success rate is very good.

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.07.10 09:41:10 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 1) : Indeed. Make that Wallabie grovel. :lol:

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.07.10 09:42:26 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 1) : @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 2) :

    Thats right!! Agree 100%!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.07.10 09:46:46 by wpw Reply
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  • P.Divvy… I am not convinced about his coaching pedigree, let alone his media savvy… This team can coach itself, with Monty, Muir Gold and Ali Coetzee my vote for the team management, yes, and Os can stay… He is sadly doing damage to our image… And Cartoon Network might be our sponsor before soon… Greed cost us a super partner in SASOL, I am personally very disappointed with the whole set up at the moment… Did you guys see how knackered Victor Matfield and John Smit physically look, these old dragons needs rest… :evil:

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.07.10 10:13:44 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • you guys remember before last years tri nations game in perth, how the aussie press got under our skin about the coaching staff aswell as our “boring” type of rugby… :twisted: we ate the wallabies for breakfast that day… but i have to add, div just cant go out and say things like that. i have great belief in him, as his record shows, but we have to seriously look at our defence and div`s interviewing skills… :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.07.10 10:15:20 by VanWilder Reply

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  • i sometimes wonder whether this outbursts of his aren’t part of some bigger scheme – diversion of sorts. :roll:

    i guess though it does sound much like a conspiracy theory.

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.07.10 10:25:03 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • Let’s be honest the comments of PDV past and present boarder on the total comical.

    He is without doubt 100% pure entertainment to the entire rugby watching world outside of South Africa….much funnier than any clown could be.

    He is embarassing to the great legacy of South African Rugby and needs cut free….and soon.

    I just wonder what some of the great South African players of the past make of him !

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.07.10 10:27:28 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • PdV talks too much from the heart, and sometimes sounds like an idiot. So do most of us fans too. The annals of this blog will testify to that.

    So many here would kiss the ground Eddie Jones walks on, but forget that he was nicknamed Eddie Moans cos of his whingeing.

    I’ll keep the weird press conferences if it comes with the 70% win ratio.

    As for Cannon, this is the vuilgat who went on national tv to almost literally cry about how dirty and hard the Boks were. Why should anyone care what he thinks?

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.07.10 10:30:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 7) : have you seen this… http://www.devillisms.com/

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.07.10 10:32:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • HH, if you want to talk about clowns look at the antics of your own team of alcoholics, wife-beaters and hand-bag combatants past and present.

    Clean your own house and we will concentrat on doing the same.

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.07.10 10:33:41 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 7) : i agree with parts of what you are saying. no problem with making jokes in an interview, but talking about a conspiracy… bit far fetched. i am a great believer in the fact that div gives his players the freedom to play their game and also give the players a relaxed atmosphere at training, thus his good record as a coach. but do the players back him with comments like this?

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.07.10 10:36:08 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 6) :

    Look, he does have his brainfart moments BUT I believe he is just being himself. And the thing is, he hates the media and has basically made that very clear (Lions series ring a bell)

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.07.10 10:36:14 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 8) :

    Your 70% record looks fast going the the tubes ….with this tube in charge ! :cool:

    I’m looking forward to Cannons public apology which seems ridiculous.

    Do you think SANZAR will make PDV apologise for his ridiculous inferences.

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.07.10 10:37:38 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 8) : maybe div`s only problem is how he explaines his statements…

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.07.10 10:39:46 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 10) :

    Woooooo Hooooo…..where’s that come from…

    ….. Surely my opinion of Clown Man is not that much of a shock to you.

    ….i’m not saying the private lives of players or anyone is in question !

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.07.10 10:40:26 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 11) :

    I get the impression he is very popular with the Sringbok players.

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.07.10 10:41:42 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : but cant we get someone at the interviews who`s more at ease with the media? like gary gold or muir?

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.07.10 10:44:38 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 9) :

    That is absolutely brilliant….love it !

    He is a real character of the game ! :mrgreen:

    English must be his second language surely ?

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.07.10 10:48:03 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 8) : in a way Cannon did exactly what he accuses divvy of – lack of propriety in public appearances.

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.07.10 10:50:47 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 19) :

    You have to keep it in context with …that mad cap quite funny ‘Rugby Show’ that the Aussies have.

    It is a good laugh they do say plenty of off the wall stuff. If they were made to apologise for even clown they upset it would never get to air.

    I think it’s funny….then again they have never made fun of me ….yet ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.07.10 10:54:16 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • The Aussies are correct – PdV’s a bloody embarrassment. Why do we even allow the idiot to speak in public?

    I don’t give a shit if English is his second language – he also utters the same crap in Afrikaans. How can an international coach, after his team gets creamed two weekends in a row, say it’s because his players didn’t cheat enough? He then suggested that in order to win in Brisbane that’s what we’d have to do. WTF?

    Part time coach and full time comedian is right. Moron a little more accurate.

    And our own Oregan Hoskins wanting to whine officially about the judicial process is just as laughable.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.07.10 10:57:34 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Watching Springbok rugby nowadays is much like going to the Krugerpark…you eat biltong, drink beers …and watch the Bokke [email protected]:twisted:

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.07.10 10:58:45 by Lady Ice Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 20) : thin line really – Cannon comment was too blatant (there are ways of saying the same thing without being so obvious) – one could make a defamation case out of it so if I was a producer I would make him apologise asap.

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.07.10 10:58:52 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 23) :

    Well they are aren’t they ! :idea:

    I think everyone will get PDV a wide berth for a while..

    …..he will come right when the Bok start winning again ! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.07.10 11:01:56 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Lady Ice (Comment 22) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.07.10 11:03:20 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 21) :

    Please post his quote where he says we should cheat??

    Stop flippen taking everything you read as gospel. He was being sarcastic.

    The fact that you refer to him as an idiot even though under his leadership the team has progressed AND he represents the country for goodness sake. Show some respect!! :evil:

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.07.10 11:06:50 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : :???:

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.07.10 11:11:35 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : After the Wellington defeat he was incensed about the last treatment afforded All Blacks skipper Richie McCaw at the breakdown and accused him of “cheating”. He said: “As a coach, you don’t want to coach your team to cheat, but maybe that is something we are going to have to consider.”

    It doesn’t matter if he is being sarcastic or not, he shouldn’t utter the rubbish he serves up.

    I wouldn’t say the Boks have progressed with him in charge but more they have kept up the standard that won the WC and now they seem to be floundering.

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.07.10 11:16:25 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 28) :

    We havent progressed??

    You are joking right??

    When did we last win a test in NZ?? We failed to do so under Jake and yet under Div we have done it THREE times!!!

    We also beat NZ thrice in one year which I am sure has never happened before isolation.

    We beat the B&I Lions for the first time in how many years??

    And record victories against the Argies, Australia and France.

    Yeah I can see we haven’t progressed!! :roll: :twisted:

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.07.10 11:23:54 by wpw Reply
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  • Oh this article has brightened my day up a bit. :cool:

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.07.10 11:29:16 by klempie Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 7) : Agreed.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.07.10 11:30:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : Look, he does have his brainfart moments BUT I believe he is just being himself.

    So he is an idiot then?? :roll:

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.07.10 11:33:59 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 29) :
    Is it worth the effort?

    I’m beginning to think it is not.

    When Jake White won the WC, suddenly everyone was a fan.

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.07.10 11:35:57 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 28) : Agree.

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.07.10 11:38:17 by klempie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 33) : I was a fan when they called him back from Europe mid-tour. I always believed in what he was trying to do.

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.07.10 11:39:04 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 35) : This is factually incorrect – Jake White was never called back mid tour – the entire Bok side was due to be back until the powers that be stuck on a the game against the BaaBaa’s, Jake just milked the impression for sympathy.

    He was the opposite of Div, he knew how to throw himself in the light of being a victim by the evil SARU.*

    They are of course evil.

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.07.10 11:54:59 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 36) :

    Is that right?

    http://www.sarugby.com/news/News/article/sid=5507.html

    Regardless, my point is that Jake didn’t make retarded comments that were embarrassing to the country.

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.07.10 12:03:52 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 37) :
    Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa!

    Are you serious???

    “Only 3 Irish players would make the Maties 3rd team”?

    “The only fetcher I know is when I ask my sons to fetch me a beer”?

    I could go on, but its hard to type and laugh at the same time…

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.07.10 12:11:24 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 37) : It is correct.

    @Big Fish (Comment 38) : :grin:

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.07.10 12:14:07 by Worcestershire Sauce Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : “Look, he does have his brainfart moments BUT I believe he is just being himself.”

    My mother always taught me, if you want to fart then do it in the confines of your bathroom, behind closed doors. If you want to fart in public then expect to be ridiculed.

    There’s no doubt that what Div had been saying in the last few weeks are not acceptable statements for a so-called “intelligent leader and ambassador” to be making… Nick Mallet was fired for saying a lot less when he allegedly “brought the game into disrepute”

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  • @wpw (Comment 29) : and the highest loss suffered by Zenglish at Twickenham – yummy :lol:

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.07.10 12:27:41 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 36) : don’t forget the third force.

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.07.10 12:30:26 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • Look Chruchill was as nutty as squirrel shit, but when it came to leading his troops and making official statements he knew how to earn respect and inspire those… Divvy, hmmmm? And these days leading a national team as iconic as the Boks’ is as important to public as a head of state, this is war for some, honour for others… You get the idea… Hey look if I compare him to Churchill let it be, he did himself compare his being to that of The Christ. We could do with less controversy, more direct honesty and less blame shifting… Montgomery went on record to say that our strategy was good, but the implementation was not… That is all that is required in a press conference after a loss, and same in a victory… Gracious in loss and gracious in victory… Simple and honourable, The Springboks don’t need a sideshow whatsoever… Why can’t we have respectful and honourable figure heads… Look, if I had great results in my company, but carried myself like a doosh… There would be consequences… But SARU just back him regardless, the fact that they forced an apology is ridiculous, freedom of speech is liberty… They are belittling the man even more by acting like his parents… I’m not going to watch the game this weekend, because I am gatvol of this Springbok thing, not just the coach… We are behaving like a fat spoilt brat who cries and bitches when his way isn’t forthcoming… GO SHARKS!!!!

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.07.10 12:39:42 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • In my opinion, all people have some good and some not so good, in all areas of their lives. In Divs case, the good far out weighs the bad in respect of his leadership of the Boks.

    In actual fact, the players seem to thrive under him. The same cannot always be said of his predecessors.

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.07.10 13:09:44 by Bump Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 38) :

    Huh??

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.07.10 13:12:19 by klempie Reply

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  • Churchill was a poor, colonially-inspired example. After all, this is the gentleman who proclaimed “I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes to spread a lively terror”.

    Taking many of his personal actions and beliefs in to consideration (such as a belief that people with mental-disabilities should be forcibly sterilised), Churchill could be argued to be an appaling representation of English imperialism.

    And yet he was the catalyst for the end of Nazism and one of the first major leaders to sniff out the Soviet threat…

    If we adopt the Churchill model, judge PdV on his actions and accomplishments. And so far, those look pretty good.

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.07.10 13:13:14 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) :

    I still recovering from Comment 10 ! ;-)

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.07.10 13:16:47 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 46) : Fair, but I was being tongue in cheek to highlight the controversy, I am not talking about Div particulary, I am talking SARU in general… We are brats and whoever argues that is not realistic… I am not asking for a perfect world set up, as that in itself is not realistic, but I am asking for those in charge not to be sacked, but to act with more professionalism, more tact, integrity… They are the bosses of so many peoples dreams and should be more responsible in their conduct from coach to CEO. The players who are interviewed are an absolute pleasure to watch, they guard and protect their words and come across full of virtue… I do feel for the senior guys, they look buggered… So Big Fish, sure Divvy is controversial, I detest it, but if he can maintain his winning ways (in general) then I will judge him on stats alone, but at this stage you cannot argue that this is difficult to do, be renewed in the transformation of your mind… Bakkies made a sincere apology in front of the world and was still dubbed a thug and a villian, Div should do the same… As they say, a soldier who loses his rifle is in more danger of being fired than a general who loses a war…

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.07.10 13:21:20 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 47) :
    Long week. :oops:

    I guess I feel that not having a vested interest, you cant jump in feet first claiming he sullies our proud tradition – after all, it is naturally your dearest hope that our proud tradition is trod into the mud.

    @DarkDestroyer (Comment 48) :
    “be renewed in the transformation of your mind”
    WTF???

    I personally prefer more decorum in public. But I recognise that I cant always have what I like.

    Let him be great at his primary job, and I can forgive him being kak at communicating with the media. Hell, most of the great soccer coaches have the same issue. If the results suffer, I will be alongside everyone else picking my rocks to throw.

    As for Bakkies, please dont use him as an example of sincerity; it debases your argument. He is a serial offender, as much as I enjoy some of the things he does on the field.

    As for soldier versus general; another simplistic example really. Generals’ control strategies that are emergent and chaotic; a soldier is expected to keep his hand on his gun. Not exactly the same level of complexity, and maybe that sums up the present situation.

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 43) :

    Well, apparently the players were outraged at Cannon’s comments and they back their coach fully.

    I think that says a lot doesn’t it??

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  • @rekinek (Go Klose!) (Comment 42) : You mean Ted Vos?

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  • @klempie (Comment 45) :
    Jake White quotes.

    Print and pin up alongside your PdV dart-board. ;-)

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.07.10 13:43:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 50) :

    I’ve always got your back wpw ! :mrgreen:

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 51) :
    :lol: :lol: :lol:

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  • Brisbane – Former Wallaby hooker Brendan Cannon has apologised to Springboks coach Peter de Villiers for calling him a clown.

    “I hereby wish to publicly apologise to Bok coach Peter de Villiers for comments I made about him on The Rugby Club TV programme on Wednesday evening. I am sorry if I offended him,” Cannon said on Fox Sports on Friday.

    The Springbok team issued an ultimatum to TV company Fox Sports to make a public apology after Cannon called the Bok coach a clown during the company’s rugby programme, The Rugby Club, on Wednesday.

    “I can’t believe that senior players like John Smit and Victor Matfield allow themselves to be controlled by this guy. He is a clown. He surely does not coach the team,” Cannon said on the show.

    A number of De Villiers’s most controversial statements from the past were mentioned, with each panel member belittling him. The other members of the panel were former Wallaby fullback Greg Martin and hooker, Jeremy Paul.

    The Springbok team threatened not to grant Fox Sports interviews again unless Cannon apologised.

    Cannon apologised live on Fox Sport on Friday and will apologise again when The Rugby Club is aired again on Wednesday night.

    According to Springbok media manager Anthony Mackaiser, the management and the players were very unhappy with the derogatory statements made about the coach and demanded an apology.

    “The producer of the programme confirmed in an email that the comments made were unacceptable. An apology and retraction was made by Cannon. The coach is happy with this and as far as we are concerned the matter is now done and dusted ,” Mackaiser said at the team hotel on Friday.

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.07.10 13:45:36 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) :

    I would never hope for that…… that is the great thing about rugby, you can bash seven bells out of each other for 80 minutes then have a beer together afterwards.

    All true rugby lovers hold the Springbok tradition up !

    It is part of what makes our sport great. No one is bigger than the game. No one, me included has the right to bring it into disrepute.

    Enjoy your weekend hopefully the Boks turn it on ! :cool:

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.07.10 13:49:55 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 55) : Case closed ! :grin:

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : Okay, we want an intellectual debate to commence:

    Be renewed in the transformation of your mind, this is the approach that helps those that need a fresh perspective… Not you, a thought on what the SARU administration should contemplate… Argue, debate, drop it, whatever…

    As for Bakkies, I completely agree that he is a serial offender, but the principle that he was put to slaughter for his actions should be applied to the coach who is a serial offender with his mouth, and he does offend…

    A soldier VS general – there are many reasons why a solider will lose a rifle – and he is usually put in more hot water over that… Being careless is inexcusible, so NO the example is not simplistic, and quite apt for Divvy is not showering himself in glory and you base your intellect on disagreeing with someone, thus coming across superior in place of trying to find commonality and building… But yes, we are all entitled to debate and I represent a faction that is highly irritated with SARU over the pettiness and general disgrace when in front of the camera… Results don’t always matter, but how you conduct your being does. So you can be respected and not laughed at when you lose something of significance.

    I walk away from this discussion, as it is now becoming too detailed and too messy, when all is asked for is simplistic integrity from those in charge… Examples, metaphors and analogies aside, Div is a disgrace to the Bok emblem, to the Protea emblem, to us the fans… Come sit with me in a bar and see for yourself how the working class man feels about Divvy. And if you don’t regard yourself as working class, then there too is no point in continuing this chat with you, because its us after a long week that want to sit and cheer the Boks, win or lose, have our heads held high and not shake them in disgust as our coach runs his mouth off like a brat… But as we say politics doesn’t belong on the site, so this will be my last post regarding Divvy. Something so controversial as the National Rugby team in SA does not need a controversial figure at the helm, it requires someone who is level headed and welcoming not this – and when last did we have someone level headed and welcoming in charge? The country deserves it…

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.07.10 13:52:09 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 57) : indeed.

  • Comment 59, posted at 23.07.10 13:54:53 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 55) : so no public grovel? disappointing..

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  • @Worcestershire Sauce (Comment 51) : one of them :mrgreen:

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  • @wpw (Comment 50) : It does say alot, Divvy is popular because he is not paranoid, he gives his players a helluva lot of freedom, which I do think is very important, but not once did I mention his player management skills, because he is well liked for that, but there is a KPA for most professionals, he meets some, and doesn’t meet others… And being in front of the microphone is also a very important deliverable in his job requirement… He could easily be the team manager any day… Just not the national spokesman…

  • Comment 62, posted at 23.07.10 14:02:33 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 56) :
    Agree on the issue of tradition of the field. But as far as on-field success goes, you surely cant be too keen on that.

    Didnt cheer much when we broke the Dunedin hoodoo, or won 3 games against you last year, now did you? :lol:

    Surely you can see that the Bok coach is a much more complex issue than it may be in other countries? I expressed a fair bit of restraint over the recent Maori allegation of racism in the AB team simply because I did not understand the national context.

    @DarkDestroyer (Comment 58) :
    I am not unaccumstomed to personal attacks, but they usually indicate a lack of argument, and the end of useful debate.

    Enjoy the rugby.

  • Comment 63, posted at 23.07.10 14:04:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 63) : Indeed sir… Enjoy the games too. Great chatting, you do make one think before responding which is always refreshing. Mea Culpa.

  • Comment 64, posted at 23.07.10 14:08:23 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 63) :

    I don’t want to talk about the Dunedin Hoo doo …..
    ….. being a Dunedin boy myself :oops:

    Enjoy the weekend !

  • Comment 65, posted at 23.07.10 14:24:21 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 62) : Not paranoid? How do you read his mechanics comparison then?

  • Comment 66, posted at 23.07.10 14:31:05 by klempie Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 64) :
    Ag, dont mind me too much: like I noted to HH, its been a long week.

    I agree with you on wanting a coach with the ability to be dignified in public, but I can deal with the absurd pronouncements if he keeps winning.

    Our disagreement is about the degree to which his winning justifies the kakpraat, and that is one I am happy to debate on. Its when we ignore the winning and harp on the mispronoucements at all that I think people are being too ungracious.

    @Hertford Highlander (Comment 65) :
    But its a crucial part of our proud rugby tradition! ;-)

  • Comment 67, posted at 23.07.10 14:47:09 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 67) : ;-)

  • Comment 68, posted at 23.07.10 14:58:15 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : So we should simply assume every time de Villiers opens his mouth it’s tongue-in-cheek?

    Maybe I’m overly harsh on the guy, but respect is earned and at the moment I have absolutely buggerall for him. And it’s not only about his idiotic utterances.

    Do you remember what he said after the first test in Auckland? Lots of stuff about it not being a train smash and how the Boks would work out the little problems and how we would come back in Wellington. Ring a bell?

    What happened? Still the same slow centre on the wing, same slow scrummie, same useless inside centre, same stupid game plan.

    Then, when we get comprehensively beaten he complains about the ref, says the officials are conspiring against us because they need the All Blacks to be up there for a successful RWC next year, etc. Utter bollocks that deserves contempt.

    Just my opinion.

  • Comment 69, posted at 23.07.10 15:10:12 by rhineshark Reply
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  • You guys see the article about Kankow in trouble with his agents?

    Seems he owes them some money and is now refusing to pay.
    But it`s on iol so I guess I can`t copy it for you.

  • Comment 70, posted at 23.07.10 15:11:21 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 70) : what about link posting or is it forbidden?

  • Comment 71, posted at 23.07.10 15:20:14 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • Sharks and Springbok forward Ryan Kankowski is involved in a legal scrum with a sports management company, which is claiming more than R300 000 of his R4.3 million Sharks contract in “commission”.

  • Comment 72, posted at 23.07.10 15:31:23 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 67) : I can salute to that…

  • Comment 73, posted at 23.07.10 15:35:31 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 66) : Hey boet; sorry man I wasn’t too clear on that… It must be broken down or isolated to different parts of the person that is Divvy… When I said he is not paranoid, it is to do only with his man management – the behind the scene stuff with his team… There I do think he achieves well, hence I say can be team manager any day… NOT ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS MEDIA ANTICS… Agreed?

  • Comment 74, posted at 23.07.10 15:37:50 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 72) : Thats what you get if you want an agent… I think too much stock is placed in an agent. This isn’t the NFL, the system is far more simple than that… Sure a meditor when it comes to securing a deal etc, but this agent stuff is what it is… Bloddy agents… ;-) He has to pay them…

  • Comment 75, posted at 23.07.10 15:40:49 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 72) : 4.3 million?? Kak man. Can’t be?? :shock:

  • Comment 76, posted at 23.07.10 15:43:37 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : too little or too much?

  • Comment 77, posted at 23.07.10 15:45:53 by rekinek (Go Klose!) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 76) : Over 3 years innit?

  • Comment 78, posted at 23.07.10 15:46:56 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 78) : I suppose that softens the blow but STILL.

  • Comment 79, posted at 23.07.10 15:54:19 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 79) : Senior squad member and a Springbok combined with some nifty negotiations = 4.3million :cool:

  • Comment 80, posted at 23.07.10 16:01:52 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 80) : Sonofagun.

  • Comment 81, posted at 23.07.10 16:07:17 by klempie Reply

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