Sharks bag five points – but none for style

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 10 Sep 2010 at 21:12
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The Sharks beat a game Pumas side in Witbank by 30 points to 14 this evening. After scoring the bonus point try within the first quarter of the match, the Sharks went to sleep and barely troubled the scorers for the next hour.

The Sharks initially looked to have matters completely in hand, as their high-tempo game yielded a try to Jacques Botes within the first five minutes, after a great break by Craig Burden in the Pumas 22. A terrible knock from Burden at the ensuing restart saw Pumas flyhalf Elgar Watts score straight afterwards, after a pass that looked suspiciously forward.

That setback only spurred the Sharks on, though, with Lwazi Mvovo and Odwa Nudnange quickly adding tries of their own, before Burden pounced on a loose ball to scoot through for the fourth. Pat Lambie’s boot was a little erratic on the night, but at 27-7 up, the Sharks were cruising.

Then the wheels fell off. The forwards started to cough up possession at the breakdown as the entire team seemingly went into “loose mode”. Charl McLeod was hustled and harried at the base too and as the knock-ons and turnovers mounted, so too did the Pumas’ possession stat. A worryingly porous midfield provided a welcoming channel for the big Pumas forwards to run at and had it not been for some desperate defence on the line, coupled with some sloppy finishing from the home side, the Sharks may have conceded more than the one additional try that they did. This came virtually on the stroke of half-time as the hosts drove over from a 5m lineout. Lambie had earlier succeeded with a penalty, so the Sharks went into the shed 27-14 ahead.

Matters didn’t improve much in the second period, with a second Lambie penalty proving to be the only points either side could score in the half. The Sharks managed a fair bit more possession and to their credit, dominated territory, but the same inaccuracy on attack that cost them the game last week in Pretoria was very much in evidence. Numerous promising attacks were snuffed out due to the sort of “white line fever” that should never have affected such a talented and experienced team. Credit must go to the Pumas, though, for tenacious defence throughout and perhaps in an away game, against a tough opponent who have already claimed one huge scalp this season, we shouldn’t be too hard on the Sharks.

Then again, champion teams measure themselves against their own high standards and if that is to be the yardstick, the Sharks fell far short of the sort of performance that they would have been hoping for tonight. They’ll go back to Durban with their lead at the top of the log now 13 points, but knowing that a similar performance against the Cheetahs in Durban WILL result in defeat.

Pumas (14) – tries by Elgar Watts and Corne Steenkamp. 2 conversions by Braam Pretorius
Sharks (30) – tries by Jacques Botes, Lwazi Mvovo, Odwa Ndungane and Craig Burden. 2 penalties and 2 conversions by Pat Lambie.


  • WTF was that?! If the Sharks continue to play like that, they will never even get a look at the CC. They were even worse now than against the Bulls. They were pathetic and atrocious!

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.09.10 21:20:06 by JustPlainSHARK Reply
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  • Nothing new from the Sharks..

    How did Stef do at fullback?

    And Swannie back at 12?

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.09.10 21:21:57 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Let me put it this way. To say that Stef has more creativity than Swannie/Dries in the midfield, makes one realise the dire sitsuation we have at centre!

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.09.10 22:15:37 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 3) : meyer bosman will walk into this team..just hope he doesnt run right through this team come next weekend!

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.09.10 22:26:57 by bergshark Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 1) : how many times did they get into their opp 22?? and then eiither turnover or knock-on :shock: we underestimate the value of the dropgoal..clean,clean,clean at the ruck and present charl or rory or whoever with a clean ball and stable platform ,put lambie or oupa stef in the’pocket’ ,and add the three points!!!! thatis still a score :idea:

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.09.10 22:30:44 by bergshark Reply

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  • pat cilliers didnt have a good game either :sad: unfortunately ,he just doesnt seem the same player after that terrible injury vs the lions :sad: his strenght was his ball carrying ability and terrific speed (like a second tearaway flanker )but there has been nothing of that since his return,,and his scrumming not even good either :sad: which is a prop`s primary function(and stopping,assisting at mauls-case in point :him running round in a circle trying to defend puma mauland then re-entering with wrong body postion :cry: puma`s scored :cry: )also,was once manhandled at a maul,just flung to the side as if he was an irritating sh :shock: )

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.09.10 22:40:16 by bergshark Reply

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  • wonder if he will ever regain that form of old? wish for his sake he well as for sharks fans,because seeing this kid run at pace and with skill was an awesome sight.. pat,good luck!!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.09.10 22:43:29 by bergshark Reply

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  • Ok i dont think it was that terrible. These guys beat da bulls 2 weeks ago and we beat them in 20 mins. We did however proceed 2 fuck around 4 the next 60 mins! We butchered a good few trys.

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.09.10 22:46:45 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • Terblanche messed a couple kicks and our centres were as average as 2 b expected.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.09.10 23:04:02 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • Our scrums weighed exactly the same except their front row was 21kgs heavier lol. Ronnie uys was a laugh a minute. Cant believe there is still sum1 like that playing professional rugby!

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.09.10 23:08:07 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • The Sharks have slipped into a pattern of shoddy, loose play that will cost them dearly against tougher opposition. But the Pumas are not a bad team and they put together some good moves, particularly in the second half, which were only nullified by some excellent defensive play by The Sharks. While it is good to see Sharks players eager to get the ball and go forward, I can’t help feeling that the pace is a shade too quick and hence the mistakes – knock-ons and forward passes – slip in. The game plan is excellent but the execution is too sloppy. And the penalties conceded were from careless and over-eager play.
    Great result, though!

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.09.10 23:35:40 by Donald Reply

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  • What a sloppy game by the Sharks? They are going to be in big trouble if they play like this against the Cheetahs next weekend. The Pumas did defend very well though but our handeling and ball retention was shocking to say the least.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.09.10 07:08:17 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Hehehe
    This is what happens whe you think you won the damn trophy after round 7!!
    And yesterday we heard ‘Lambie is better than Jantjies’
    At least Jantjies can kick at goal. :twisted:

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.09.10 07:25:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.09.10 07:41:30 by diablo Reply

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  • Sharks were bloody PATHETIC!! :evil:

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.09.10 08:09:18 by klempie Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 13) : Don’t you worry the Sharks know better than anybody that the CC isn’t won before the final.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.09.10 08:56:00 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 5) :
    I actualy want to differ from you on this one. I think its a stale type of game if you just go for drop goals. Admitted that if you get into the 22 AND struggle to get over the tryline, then by all means go for the dropgoal. The problem with the Sharks last night was that they were’nt in the 22 long enough to say: “Well damn, we cant get the try, lets go for the drop.”
    In any case, if you score 4 tries in the space of 20min, then the idea of going for drops would sound daft. My humble opinion.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.09.10 09:27:16 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • Hell, it feels as if we lost last night. But still got 5 points. Just feel so……..let down.@RuckingFun (Comment 8) :
    These guys beat a Bulls side with second stringers in the team line up. The Bulls brought their 1st choice players on when it was to late.@Donald (Comment 11) :
    The Pumas are not a bad team yes, but I agree that the execution of the Sharks moves (handling and dropping of the ball) were really sloppy.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.09.10 09:32:17 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • Hey Wes, how many games have Province won in the last 3 roundsn since you’re so keen to throw around accusations about teams thinking they have the trophy won…

    Back in your box!

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.09.10 09:39:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • More problems in WIE PIE camp, then ever, Rassie the main culprit :evil:

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.09.10 09:47:05 by Charlie Reply

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  • You sure are defensive hey Rob?? :wink:

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.09.10 09:52:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 21) : did you see that Pumas try?!! That chap left oupa terblanche on his backside :lol: hahahahahaha

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.09.10 10:08:15 by Megatron Reply

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  • I’m more concerned about the way Johan Jackson made Dries Strauss appear to be running backwards…

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.09.10 10:21:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 20) : We desperately need you back!

    Yeah I dunno, on a positive note I feel Botes could`ve gotten MVP.

    We looked so good in the first half against the bulls but what we saw last night . . . sigh

    But hey, FS have a tough one this afternoon and we`ll have an extra day to recover.
    Positive enough for you guys?! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.09.10 10:22:20 by Original Pierre In Mourning Reply
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  • Ronnie Uys is helluva hard to stop: quick for his size, heavy, and strong, but mostly difficult to get a grip around him.

    Only time I’ve ever seen Willem Alberts bounced. Literally.

    I’m not too fussed: we got the 5 points, and we spent the rest of the game practising the gameplan that will win us many more matches. Different story if we screwed up even though we played conservatively.

    Oupa had an excellent game.

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.09.10 10:23:49 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Some individual players went on a walk about after the 4th try. Especially in the tight five…they were not working to get us clean ball at the breakdown. We also probably could have scored an extra 6 tries this season had Charl just held on to the ball properly!!!He does some seriously good stuff, then knock on…most irritating aspect of our play the last 2 weeks. We need to focus the whole 80. Also we need to get ndlovu off the benvh somehow; everytime he plays for us he hardly makes any impact…rhodes should go 19 till keegs comes back and mostert should make the come back at 18. Hope we concentrate the full 80 against Cheetahs.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.09.10 11:22:20 by JJR Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 25) : Happened because he came in contact with ronnie’s fat belly…need my baby back,baby back,baby back, Ribs…LOL.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.09.10 11:26:41 by JJR Reply
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  • Great to get the 5 pointer but oh so frustrating to watch.

    I was hoping that Kanko would set the field alight, but he didn’t really ever get going. I think the Pumas were probably tougher opponents than what it looked like.

    I would really have liked Kyle Cooper to have got more game time, not that Craig Burden did badly.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.09.10 12:47:27 by jonnow Reply

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  • For some reason we never take our A game to Witbank and this was no different.

    Considering that we had the bonus point after 20 minutes it was inevitable that we would get loose, but one would expect the log leaders to have the ability to realise this and tighten things up.

    At the end it was nothing but a bloody getjommel. Crappest rugby we´ve dished up for a long time and if it wasn´t for a couple of crucial tackles by Botes in the first half the score could have been much different.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.09.10 15:28:46 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I cant believe only 3 points were scored in the 2nd half. :evil:
    I’m starting to get worried.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.09.10 19:20:50 by Jarson Reply
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  • What was worrisome was how many times they had our defence in trouble when they passed inside.

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.09.10 20:27:04 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 31) :it was shocking! They caught us with it over and over again

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.09.10 22:27:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan: hope plum and co noticed it also..because naka and co surely must’ve..and they’re a lot smarter,will make the sharks pay bigtime!

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.09.10 22:47:27 by bergshark Reply

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  • Is charl really our best scrumhalf?i dont c him playing super 15 or for the boks.

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.09.10 08:31:16 by Gotti Reply

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  • @Gotti (Comment 34) : I thought he was, but DAMN, he made a lot of mistakes against the Pumas. Everybody’s entitled to an off game, though and I don’t think we should now consider picking Rory to start against the Cheetahs. But it’s no longer cut and dried. If Hoffman is as good as all the WeePee okes think he is (which, admittedly, is unlikely) I reckon he’ll walk into the team next year.

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.09.10 09:02:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Gotti (Comment 34) : are you new here, btw?

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.09.10 09:05:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Future sharks team(what do u think): 1. Beast 2. B.du plessis 3. J.du plessis 4. Sykes 5. Skeate 6. Deysel 7. Alberts 8. Kankowski 9. Hoffman 10. Lambie 11. Mvovo 12. Bosman 13. Jacobs 14. Peterson 15. Ludik 16. Burden 17. Herbst 18. Mostert 19. Daniel 20. Cronje 21. Potgieter 22. Mapoe(if he still come)

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.09.10 09:16:13 by Gotti Reply

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  • @Gotti (Comment 37) : can’t agree with leaving Hargreaves out :)

    LOVE that loose trio, though

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.09.10 09:23:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • I think we actually missing carstens. If we lose beast then pat is our next choice. Jannie can play both sides but havnt seen dat in a while. Wat other looseheads do we hav?

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.09.10 11:20:50 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @Gotti (Comment 34) : i was wondering the same. I rate the guy but I CC may be his ceiling. But to answer your question – he probably is, with Ruan gone and Rory perhaps on his way as well. Though if Rory is to stay perhaps he can regain some of his 2008 form :roll:
    would like to see more of cronje brothers.

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.09.10 11:24:11 by rekinek (back to rugby) Reply
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  • Mcleod did make alot of blunders but he is still much sharper than kockett, and our backline gets some quality ball. His kicking game is shite tho

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.09.10 11:25:21 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • BTW ; so who of the complacent players (from Bull’s game) was dropped for Pumas game? hey :roll:

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.09.10 11:25:28 by rekinek (back to rugby) Reply
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  • That scrumhalf of the leopards b4 he got injured,cant remember his name bt he was damn good!what about him joining us? Sarel pretorius/jano vermaak would also b great 4 S15.

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.09.10 12:04:15 by Gotti Reply

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  • @Gotti: michael bondesio

  • Comment 44, posted at 12.09.10 12:22:38 by bergshark Reply

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  • If charl’s kicking game is weak,then the coaches should’ve already been putting inthe hrs with the player..same with rory’s passing game..

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.09.10 12:27:06 by bergshark Reply

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  • Hope rory stays at the sharks,and that hoffman was brought in as utility back /sh..pretty much same as ruan was used as the last few seasons

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.09.10 12:31:40 by bergshark Reply

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  • @RuckingFun: im sad to say this,bt it doesnt look as if pat cn continue at prop in sharksteam..time to promote redelinghuys and chadwick frm u21s

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.09.10 12:36:09 by bergshark Reply

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  • only started watching just b4 halftime and wat a dissapiontment! Luckily i saw the highlights of the tries at halftime. Otherwise someone’s TV screen…wudn’t b a screen! :evil: :evil: :evil:

    Was scrapy, and McLeod in question. But then again, was it always Charlie’s fault? We’ve seen in the last few weeks how he gets the ball to the backline so quickly, and last night now one seemed to want to clear the rucks out and GIVE McLeod good ball. Without good ball he wasn’t as effective. This could be a potiential weakness in his game, because we can have a great gameplan, and good backline, but behind a bullied or lazy tight 5, we’ll be useless.

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.09.10 16:40:38 by The Sharks Sharkie Reply
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  • Charl didn’t have the greatest game, but count the number of forwards at the ruck.

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.09.10 18:54:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Ronnie Uys moves for a guy his size, but MG he is revolting! Kry daai pens terug in jou jersey!!

  • Comment 50, posted at 13.09.10 08:20:08 by Ice Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : Precisely. Our ball protection was non-existent, because everyone was standing in the backline waiting for the tackled player and Charl to miraculously contest the ball against five Pumas ruck-hitters.

    Too loose for an entire 60 minutes. We needed our captain to step in and tell the forwards do do the basics first.

  • Comment 51, posted at 13.09.10 08:57:36 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Jimmy Stonewall was asked if he thought the Puma’s could win this game. He replied , “Met Uys, ja met Uys.”

  • Comment 52, posted at 13.09.10 09:41:23 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • Pat Lambie also needs to get Braam Van Straaten to have a look at his kicking. Missed a few elementary ones to start.

    Morne Steyn has slotted his last 38 kicks at goal for the Bok’s so if Pat wants that place he best get his boot in order.

    Who is the Sharks kicking coach? Do we have one? Or does Hugh Reece fill that role to?

  • Comment 53, posted at 13.09.10 09:43:45 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 53) : I’m not sure we have one.

  • Comment 54, posted at 13.09.10 09:55:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 54) : :roll: Eish… Next season with JLP around, it will help but where is he going to play unless they shunt Lambie back to 15? As Meyer Bosman is looking classy at 12 at the mo?

  • Comment 55, posted at 13.09.10 09:59:34 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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