Do the Cheetahs really value Mapoe that highly?

Written by Warren Smith (war1)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Sharks on 23 Sep 2010 at 07:45
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While the Cheetahs have been paying Lionel Mapoe an under 21s salary, they are requesting a transfer fee which is more than what the Bulls paid for Springbok Bjorn Basson.

According to a rugby365 the Cheetahs have requested a R1.5 million although Volksblad quoted Harold Verster as saying “much more than that” when he was asked if the Cheetahs would accept R 1.5 million for Mapoe.

Finally, after months of this saga dragging on SARPA CEO, Piet Heymans has finally got involved (sort of). He is quoted as being “disappointed” that the two unions have not agreed on a transfer fee yet. He also said that the Sharks have offered an above market value transfer fee for Mapoe and was surprised that the Cheetahs could ask for a R1.5 million for someone who earns R 100 000 a year.

If the Cheetahs value Lionel Mapoe at R 1.5 million, why did they not pay him more? Apparently the Cheetahs said R1.5 million would be needed to sign a replacement. That may amount to admitting they have been paying Mapoe way too little. They also declined a request from Paul Treu to make Mapoe available for the Sevens Springboks which would allow Mapoe to get some much needed game time.

At least Heymans is on Mapoe’s side and “hopes the court rules in his favour” so that Mapoe can get back to the playing field ASAP. Maybe Mapoe needs a bit more than hope from SARPA.


  • This is really sad from a South African point of view. I’m sad because embarrassing and childish nonsense like this keep happening :sad:

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.09.10 08:02:31 by Jarson Reply
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  • And now they (FS) are blocking Mapoe from playing for the Springbok Sevens in the Commenwealth Games.

    How is that for childish and petty?!

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.09.10 08:09:36 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • And they’re now trying to block Basson’s move to the Bulls

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.09.10 08:31:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • So the Bulls paid R1 million for Bjorn Basson, and the Cheetahs are demanding R1,5 million for Mapoe..

    Mapoe is surely not THAT good?!

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.09.10 08:32:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • R100k a year! :shock: F*cking disgusting. :evil:

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.09.10 08:39:56 by klempie Reply

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  • Slap in the face, isn’t it? You need to be a serious moron to consider signing any contract at all with Harold and his clowns. At least the Lions pay properly.

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.09.10 08:43:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 4) : paying that much for him would be a mistake from the sharks. They should rather pay for Mapoe’s legal fees, will be much cheaper to get released from the contract.

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.09.10 08:46:06 by rekinek (in pink) Reply
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  • Cheetahs’being ridiculous – no wonder players want to move :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.09.10 08:46:42 by rekinek (in pink) Reply
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  • Wasn’t Verster complaining the other day about not having the same kind of money as the other unions?

    And he wonders why?

    It’s kind of like that saying, if you aim for the stars, you might hit the moon.

    Verster aims for the lamp-post and wonders why his chin hits the pavement!

    Think small, you’ll always be small.

    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. While I wouldn’t go so far as to cast aspersions as to Verster’s mental state, I would say that he is condemned to be a small player on a big stage as long as he has this narrow, blinkered view of the world.

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.09.10 09:03:50 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 9) : i read another nice quote recently. it goes sth like that:

    if you aim for excellence you will be above mediocre if your aim is mediocre you will be well below it.

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.09.10 09:08:05 by rekinek (in pink) Reply
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  • This is absolutely disgusting and pathetic from State’s side. They are getting so much bad publicity with their ramblings this week.

    Whether the Sharks handled this saga correctly is questionable, but this has gone far past that, and the fact that we are trying to resolve this and FS are just trying to block anything Mapoe related, speaks volumes of the lack of professionalism at the FS union. Also trying to get a finger in the pie with the Basson thing, and now preventing Mapoe from joining the commonwealth games…let a player play!

    I’m really disappointed…until very recently FS was my 2nd team, seeing that I stayed there for a number of years…

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.09.10 09:08:50 by AlienArmy Reply

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  • Breaking News : Marius Reyneke just dropped to No.3 in the Official LG (Loser Git) Rankings for Sports Administrators. ASA’s Leonard Chuene still retains No.1 spot even though he has been out of the game for a while but Freestates Haroldus Verster is pushing hard for top honours.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.09.10 09:42:46 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • The Cheetahs always want to be seen as one of the big unions and then they go and pull all of this kak.

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.09.10 09:59:15 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 12) : well, wasn’t going to bring up Chuene, but was actually about to make a statement that Verster has overtaken Reynecke :)

    Should we send Manie a congratulatory email?

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.09.10 10:10:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) : Absolutely! I am sure he will appreciate it. Maybe Walter should sign it?

    Leonard might be removed from the rankings to take up a position of Life President along with Butana.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.09.10 10:21:30 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • Let think about it like this… if FS let mapoe go at R1mil, and they let Brussouw go last year at R1,5mil and the get R500,000 for Basson, that gives you at total of R2mil for transfer fees. Now all of these are boks or is bound to be boks, so game time at the cheetahs will be limited to superrugby. would have been good business and for R2mil they could contract 20 Lionel Mapoes for 1 year… :roll: ;-)

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.09.10 10:28:26 by VanWilder Reply

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  • Paul Treu and the Bok 7′s hate Harold, The Bulls hate Harold, Harold’s neighbours the Griquas hate Harold, the Sharks hate Harold, the Lions hate Harold, The EP Kings hate Harold.. There must be others!

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.09.10 10:29:52 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 17) :

    Who likes Harold?

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.09.10 10:32:54 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 18) : His Mom possibly?

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.09.10 10:34:01 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 15) : easy pal… chucking some names around there that are guaranteed to lead into inappropriate discussions here :)

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.09.10 10:35:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 19) :

    I doubt even that!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.09.10 10:44:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 16) :
    1 + 1.5 + 0.5 = 3 Million ;-)

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.09.10 11:07:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 17) :

    Now watch Rob start a FB group!! :roll:

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.09.10 11:08:23 by wpw Reply
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  • could we lose him to sa rugby as a result of this debacle ?
    even worse could he be lost to rugby union ?

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.09.10 12:50:20 by prgdad Reply

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  • @prgdad (Comment 24) : if it doesn’t get sorted out soon, that will probably happen

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.09.10 12:56:26 by war1 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : Sry, won’t mention the L or B word here again!

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.09.10 13:04:57 by Oubaas2009 Reply

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  • @Oubaas2009 (Comment 26) : no worries :)

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.09.10 13:11:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Where did the figure of R100 000 a year come from? That surely can’t be true. If it is, that’s a ludicrous salary and they wonder why he wants a move!! :shock: :roll:

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.09.10 13:22:02 by Villie Reply
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  • Did you guys see the press release from the Free State Rugby Union?

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.09.10 13:26:44 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • A toilet cleaner in the UK earns more than 100k (equiv). Its a bit of an insult, but thats where contract law sucks… the question is, if FS value him so much, why didnt they pay him properly, and keep him for themselves? Stupidity.

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.09.10 15:07:25 by Nhumrod Reply

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  • Two things I find interesting today about Sharks Rugby:

    1. No other union has as much problem buying players, which is strange given that no other union has more experience doing it.
    2. Tool Of The Week has an overwhelming correlation with whichever union is resisting being raped by Sharks purchasing power that week.

    Given these two points, is it beyond the bounds of possibility that the Sharks’ lack of homegrown talent and their compensatory unethical approach to buying the requisite talent in is the real root cause? And that the next Tool will merely be the next small union who doesn’t want to be pillaged?

    Just a thought. Use it, don’t use it.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.09.10 15:19:40 by Agent Orange Reply

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  • @Agent Orange (Comment 31) : pretty sure WP had some problems getting Jacques Fourie from the Lions. The Lions had similar problems getting Jp Joubert from Free State. And Free State are now trying to block the sale of Bjorn Basson from Griquas to the Bulls.

    Amazing what you can see if you only use one eye!

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.09.10 15:24:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Come on Sharks top guys pay the amout :mrgreen: he is worth it to hv him as a legend in the sharks tank :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.09.10 15:58:58 by chaz Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : we need to get his agent on the line and let him clarify the truth ..was upset when watching the news @ 19hoo that the reporter only interviewed harold verster .were the sharks not available for comment?or was the reporter and harold `working together`?not a word was mentioned about the actual reasons for mapoe wanting to leave.harold verster just tried to paint a picture of yet another player,developed by the free state,lost to the union because of greedy wolves stealing from them.. as if mapoe,port elizabeth born!!!!agree with harold that mapoe went to hs in fs..i checked the facts,mapoe went to primary school also in fs..but this constant whining about losing players that fs develops !!and the arrogance to believe that if it was not for some genius rugby coach in the fs teaching these youngsters rugby,then these players would be nobodies in a rugby sense!!!!
    harold and co have let the talk of “the free state is the rugby factory of sa rugby”,go to their heads!!!
    johan goosen ,prodigious fh talent,went to primary school in burgersdorp (eastern cape).. now he is a boarder @ grey.. but guess they will claim him as another homegrown talent oneday, lost to the greedy wolves..
    even os du randt wasn`t born in fs but in alice (eastern cape,again)..didn`t even represent fs schools at craven week..went to bloem varsity and we all know the rest..
    rassie erasmus born and schooled in despatch(eastern cape)..
    and dont even getme going about players born in the fs but outside the fs rugby union boundaries,ie eastern fs and northern fs ..why not treat them as also part of harold`s fs?? well,when last did anyone hear the lions and bulls say:well,we`re both from gauteng.. or back in the day:we`re both from transvaal..
    same goes for ep and wp back in the day..never heard an ep fan say(after a wp victory):well,we`re both in the cape..
    wwhat i want to say is that there are talented players all across sa..that for some reason they drifted into the fs(bloem) ,doesn`t mean they would never have become the stars they did become if they never set foot in the fs(bloem)..there is something as talent..yes,coaching is a talent ..but what i hear from the fs reminds me more of arrogance.

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.09.10 23:18:10 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark…100% agree

  • Comment 36, posted at 24.09.10 07:22:43 by Neil Watson Reply

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  • Freestaters still believe in slave trading. Paying someone the minimum wage is in my mind the same as slave trading.

  • Comment 37, posted at 24.09.10 08:06:28 by Jarson Reply
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