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ABSA Currie Cup: Lions (27) v Pumas (34) F/T


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Lions on 8 Oct 2010 at 16:30
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Yawn… stretch… whatever.

Lions fans will tell you that they need to win big here because there’s still a mathematical chance they could qualify for the semis.

They’re dreaming. There’s nothing at stake here!

Lions: 15 Burton Francis, 14 Jannie Boshoff, 13 Marius Delport, 12 Waylon Murray, 11 Deon Van Rensburg, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Jano Vermaak, 8 Warren Whiteley, 7 Wikus van Heerden, 6 Derick Minnie, 5 Franco Van der Merwe (captain), 4 Trevor Hall, 3 Ross Geldenhuys, 2 Martin Bezuidenhout, 1 JC Janse van Rensburg.
Replacements: 16 Edgar Marutlulle, 17 Wayne Swart, 18 Johan Snyman, 19 JP Joubert, 20 Wandile Mjekevu, 21 Renaldo Bothma, 22 Pieter Engelbrecht.

Pumas: 15 Johan Jackson, 14 Wynand Willis, 13 Shaun Venter, 12 Tian Meyer, 11 Allister Kettledas, 10 Elgar Watts, 9 Hendrik van der Nest, 8 Christo le Roux, 7 Eduan van der Walt, 6 Corné Steenkamp, 5 Marius Coetzer, 4 Luan Velthuizen, 3 Ashley Buys, 2 Hannes Franklin (captain), 1 Ronnie Uys.
Replacements: 16 Hans van Dyk, 17 Dawie Steyn, 18 Dee-Jay Terblanche, 19 Willem Serfontein, 20 Jaco Bouwer, 21 Ricardo Croy, 22 Carl Bezuidenhout.

Kick-off: 19.10 SA Time
Ref: Lourens van der Merwe
AR’s: Sindile Mayende, Madel de Villiers
TMO: Johann Meuwesen



219 Comments

  • yaaaawn.

    Go Pumas

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.10.10 16:59:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • :) How top make friends 101. :razz:

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.10.10 17:11:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hey, my LMS is at stake here! :twisted:

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.10.10 17:17:19 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 3) :

    So is mine. I’ve picked the Pumas. It was that or the Leopards. :oops:

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.10.10 17:24:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : he he :)

    Sorry…. :oops:

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.10.10 17:35:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • I already lost my lifeline last week… so fairly confident here. I have the Lions

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.10.10 17:37:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • What time’s the cricket? :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.10.10 17:48:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 7) : 50minutes time. ;-)

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.10.10 18:19:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • ‘There’s nothing at stake here’ :twisted:
    Go Lions :!: :!:

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.10.10 18:41:29 by Jarson Reply
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  • My choices this week were the Bulls of the Leopards. It was a far easier choice than last week with Cheetahs, Bulls or Leopards…

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.10.10 18:46:55 by lostfish Reply
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  • Lions 0 – 0 Pumas

    4min

    Watts misses one from 25m out just left of the uprights

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.10.10 19:15:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 10) : :razz:

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.10.10 19:16:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Zim klapping a few sixes.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.10.10 19:16:43 by McLovin Reply

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  • Leopards 0 – 7 Cheetahs
    Try by Daniller

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.10.10 19:16:48 by Jarson Reply
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  • Lions 0 – 5 Pumas

    7min

    Corne Steenkamp the scorer

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.10.10 19:18:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 15) :

    Watts misses the conversion

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.10.10 19:19:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I just turned the Pumas Lions game on and the Pumas just scored a try. Did not get the conversion.

    Lions 0 – 5 Pumas

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.10.10 19:19:39 by lostfish Reply
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  • Leo 0 – 14 Che
    Try by Bosman

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.10.10 19:19:55 by Jarson Reply
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  • Zim 154-4 19 overs.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.10.10 19:20:35 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 19) :

    Who are they playing against?

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.10.10 19:23:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Pumas looking full of running

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.10.10 19:24:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 21) : Can the keep it up? Fat Ronnie looks exhausted already.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.10.10 19:24:57 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : Seff Efrica.

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.10.10 19:26:00 by McLovin Reply

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  • 168/4 20 overs

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.10.10 19:26:29 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 23) : Are we playing a second string?

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.10.10 19:26:32 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 22) : That oke’s a heart attack risk.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.10.10 19:26:55 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 23) :
    Thanks.

    @lostfish (Comment 22) : I hope so. I have them on LMS. :razz:

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.10.10 19:26:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 25) : Not sure.

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.10.10 19:27:31 by McLovin Reply

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  • Lions try Minnie

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.10.10 19:28:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Leo 0 – 28 Che
    Tries by Oosthuysen en Strauss

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.10.10 19:28:57 by Jarson Reply
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  • Jantjies misses

    Lions 5 – 5 Pumas

    17min

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.10.10 19:29:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • LMS picks

    Cheetahs 16
    Golden Lions 11
    Blue Bulls 6
    Pumas 4
    Leopards 1
    Sharks 1

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.10.10 19:30:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Jarson (Comment 30) :

    I hope they slow down soon.

    Game 54: Leopards v Cheetahs: Cheetahs by 46
    Game 55: Lions v Pumas: Lions by 25
    Game 53: Griquas v Blue Bulls: Blue Bulls by 41
    Game 56: Western Province v Sharks: Sharks by 13

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.10.10 19:31:52 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Stransky (I think) say Ronnie Uys is 130kgs, he has got a lot of beef. More like blubber the way his tummy wobbles.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.10.10 19:31:53 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 34) :

    Brosnihan and Owen Nkumane the commentators.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.10.10 19:34:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 34) : If he’s that fat now as a ‘fit pro athlete’ imagine him in 10-15 years.

    He’ll make Kobus Wiese look like a weighless after photo.

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.10.10 19:34:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • Lions try

    Jantjies misses again

    Lions 10 – 5 Pumas

    22min

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.10.10 19:34:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 36) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.10.10 19:35:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Cheetahs by 36
    Lions by 24
    Bulls by 13
    WP by 2

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.10.10 19:35:55 by Jarson Reply
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  • Pumas!!!

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.10.10 19:38:15 by lostfish Reply
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  • Vrot defence from the cubs. :roll:

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.10.10 19:38:47 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 35) : Brosniwhine then not Stransky

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.10.10 19:39:10 by lostfish Reply
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  • Leo 0 – 35 Che
    Try by Uys

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.10.10 19:39:57 by Jarson Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 36) : lmao, classic chirp.

    I am guessing Jantjies has a lot of work to do on the off season.

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.10.10 19:40:27 by lostfish Reply
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  • Pumas again…

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.10.10 19:41:41 by lostfish Reply
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  • Lions 10 – 15 Pumas

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.10.10 19:42:07 by lostfish Reply
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  • Lions 10 – 17 Pumas

    29min

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.10.10 19:42:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Watts gets the conversion

    Lions 10 – 17 Pumas

    Watts kicking 1/4

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.10.10 19:42:52 by lostfish Reply
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  • I dont like the Lions’ scoreline :shock: Come on Lions!

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.10.10 19:43:01 by Jarson Reply
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  • Daniller try no2
    Leo 0 – 40 Che

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.10.10 19:46:11 by Jarson Reply
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  • @Jarson (Comment 49) : Go Pumas!! :twisted:

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.10.10 19:47:56 by lostfish Reply
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  • 0 – 47 Cheetahs
    Scholtz Try :roll:

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.10.10 19:49:23 by Jarson Reply
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  • 18 Dee-Jay Terblanche :lol: Is that first name for real? :lol: :roll:

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.10.10 19:49:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • Is it halftime yet?

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.10.10 19:55:34 by Jarson Reply
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  • @Jarson (Comment 54) : Yes, Lions scored a try just before half time but I missed the conversion so I don’t know if he got it.

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.10.10 19:57:14 by lostfish Reply
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  • SA 49-0 after 4 overs.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.10.10 19:58:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • Halftime
    Leopards 0 – 47 Cheetahs
    A real one sided afair :roll:

  • Comment 57, posted at 08.10.10 19:58:26 by Jarson Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 56) : Not bad

  • Comment 58, posted at 08.10.10 19:58:45 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 55) : Lions 17 – 17 Pumas, Jantjies finally got one over

  • Comment 59, posted at 08.10.10 19:59:21 by lostfish Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 56) : :shock:

  • Comment 60, posted at 08.10.10 20:01:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Dinner time, back in a few.

  • Comment 61, posted at 08.10.10 20:02:55 by Jarson Reply
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  • 64-0 5 overs.

  • Comment 62, posted at 08.10.10 20:03:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Jarson (Comment 61) : What’s for dinner tonight?

  • Comment 63, posted at 08.10.10 20:05:05 by lostfish Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 62) :

    15 Over game.

  • Comment 64, posted at 08.10.10 20:05:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 63) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 65, posted at 08.10.10 20:05:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 78-0 6 overs

  • Comment 66, posted at 08.10.10 20:07:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 63) :

    You in France right? What is calvedos? check the WP/SAIL thread.

  • Comment 67, posted at 08.10.10 20:09:43 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Smith 53 off 26 balls.

  • Comment 68, posted at 08.10.10 20:09:48 by McLovin Reply

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  • Bosman gone. 33 off 13 balls.

  • Comment 69, posted at 08.10.10 20:10:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 66) :

    Their bowlers must be crying!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 70, posted at 08.10.10 20:10:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 90-1 7 overs.

  • Comment 71, posted at 08.10.10 20:11:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 67) : Having a look.

  • Comment 72, posted at 08.10.10 20:11:49 by lostfish Reply
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  • Smith gone.

  • Comment 73, posted at 08.10.10 20:13:45 by McLovin Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 72) :

    found it.

    Calvados is an apple brandy from the French région of Basse-Normandie or Lower Normandy

  • Comment 74, posted at 08.10.10 20:14:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 58 from 29 balls.

  • Comment 75, posted at 08.10.10 20:14:16 by McLovin Reply

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  • Jantjies has 2 or 3 successful breaks now he is trying it everytime.

  • Comment 76, posted at 08.10.10 20:15:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Whiteley BP try!!!!!

  • Comment 77, posted at 08.10.10 20:16:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 67) : Calvedos is a department in France. There is also an apple digestif called Calvedos that made in Calvedos.

  • Comment 78, posted at 08.10.10 20:16:42 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 78) :

    ah thanks.

  • Comment 79, posted at 08.10.10 20:17:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Lions 24 – 17 Pumas

    50min

  • Comment 80, posted at 08.10.10 20:18:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 99-3

  • Comment 81, posted at 08.10.10 20:19:05 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : A bit late then, I had to go ask my French hubby. First thing he said was pousse-cafe. It means pushes the coffee. A digestif you drink after drinking coffee after eating good French food.

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  • @lostfish (Comment 82) :
    Thanks.

    The guy in the video is asking for Calvados and I was wondering what it was.

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  • Here’s Johnny!

  • Comment 84, posted at 08.10.10 20:22:32 by Jarson Reply
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  • 106-3 10 overs.

  • Comment 85, posted at 08.10.10 20:23:57 by McLovin Reply

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  • Leo 0 – 66 Che
    Tries by Carse, Johnson and Snyman.

  • Comment 86, posted at 08.10.10 20:24:24 by Jarson Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 85) :

    Man they are choking, have they lost the plot. :razz:

  • Comment 87, posted at 08.10.10 20:27:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 0 – 71 Cheetahs
    Try no2 for Snyman

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 87) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 89, posted at 08.10.10 20:31:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Jarson (Comment 88) :

    The biggest margin on SB is 77. :lol: Gonna be to small.

    Cheetahs are making sure the Bulls don’t get past them.

    griquas must be pissed at the Cheetahs. The Cheetahs are making sure the Bulls go ALL OUT against the Griquas. :)

  • Comment 90, posted at 08.10.10 20:32:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Lions 24 – 20 Pumas

    62min

  • Comment 91, posted at 08.10.10 20:32:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Jarson (Comment 88) : :shock: Time?

  • Comment 92, posted at 08.10.10 20:33:21 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 92) : Dont know :oops: How does almost over suit you?

  • Comment 93, posted at 08.10.10 20:35:49 by Jarson Reply
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  • @Jarson (Comment 93) :

    If everything is according to schedule then they started 10minutes before the Lions game.

    So they should have about 5 to go.

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  • @Jarson (Comment 93) : That’s good enough. Thanks. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 95, posted at 08.10.10 20:37:51 by McLovin Reply

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  • Jantjies PK

    Lions 27 – 20 Pumas

    67min

  • Comment 96, posted at 08.10.10 20:38:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 151-3 14 overs.

  • Comment 97, posted at 08.10.10 20:38:27 by McLovin Reply

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  • Pumas over. Held up.

    attacking scrum 5m Pumas

  • Comment 98, posted at 08.10.10 20:39:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 97) :

    Did someone send CSA the memo that it was a 50over match and not T20?

  • Comment 99, posted at 08.10.10 20:40:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Pumas try their 9

  • Comment 100, posted at 08.10.10 20:40:56 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Try Pumas

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  • Lions 27 – 27 Pumas

    70min

  • Comment 102, posted at 08.10.10 20:41:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 100) : For a moment I thought you said, their 9th :oops:

  • Comment 103, posted at 08.10.10 20:43:15 by Jarson Reply
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  • The Supersport server is to busy to accept more traffic. :lol:

  • Comment 104, posted at 08.10.10 20:43:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Jarson (Comment 103) : :razz:

  • Comment 105, posted at 08.10.10 20:44:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • All over.

    SA win by 7 wickets. 4 overs to spare.

  • Comment 106, posted at 08.10.10 20:44:44 by McLovin Reply

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  • Uys try no2
    Leo 0 – 78 Cheetahs
    :roll:

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 102) : Is it to early to start panicking? :???: :sad:

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  • Is the one TJ a girl?

  • Comment 109, posted at 08.10.10 20:47:06 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Jarson (Comment 108) :

    No not at all.

    Pumas try!!!

    being refered to the TMO though

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  • Was that a try from the Pumas? TMO

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  • @lostfish (Comment 109) :

    YIP

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  • Van Niekerk Try!!
    FULLTIME
    Leopards 7 – 78 Cheetahs
    Margin – 71

  • Comment 113, posted at 08.10.10 20:48:26 by Jarson Reply
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  • TRY PUMAS!!

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  • @lostfish (Comment 111) :
    YIP

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  • @lostfish (Comment 109) : Good grief. :shock: What’s next? Women to vote? ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 116, posted at 08.10.10 20:49:28 by McLovin Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 112) : It was a bit hard to tell just from looking.

  • Comment 117, posted at 08.10.10 20:49:37 by lostfish Reply
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  • Conversion over by Watts

    Lions 27 – 34 Pumas

    76min

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  • @lostfish (Comment 117) : :razz:

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  • @McLovin (Comment 116) : co-ed rugby :twisted:

  • Comment 120, posted at 08.10.10 20:50:26 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 117) : Meow. :lol:

  • Comment 121, posted at 08.10.10 20:50:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • Oh well LMS was fun while it lasted :sad:

  • Comment 122, posted at 08.10.10 20:51:19 by Jarson Reply
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  • This ref has just cocked up bigtime.

    giving the Lions a scrum 10m from the Pumas line.

    fortunately he got a helping hand from the TJ and reversed the scrum.

  • Comment 123, posted at 08.10.10 20:52:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • FULL TIME

    Lions 27 – 34 Pumas

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  • @Jarson (Comment 122) : 10 more seconds…

  • Comment 125, posted at 08.10.10 20:53:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • Game over – Pumas win

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  • @Jarson (Comment 122) :

    I’m still alive with both lifelines. :shock:

  • Comment 127, posted at 08.10.10 20:53:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Cheers guys :cry:

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 127) : Lady Luck was with you.

  • Comment 129, posted at 08.10.10 20:56:05 by lostfish Reply
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  • I guess we won’t be seeing greg for a while. :razz:

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  • @lostfish (Comment 129) :

    next to me. ;-)

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  • Damn Lions messed up my Superbru but I don’t really care, at least they won’t be so windgat now.

  • Comment 132, posted at 08.10.10 20:57:09 by lostfish Reply
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  • Someone has to say it, are the Lions really any better this year than they were last year? Sure they are getting the publicity with Mitchell coaching, but the results look no different from last year. And the year before for that matter.

  • Comment 133, posted at 08.10.10 20:57:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Before tonights games.

    92 teams entered the game:
    17 still alive with a lifeline.
    22 still alive with no lifeline.
    53 out of the game.

    After tonights games.
    92 teams entered the game:
    14 still alive with a lifeline.
    16 still alive with no lifeline.
    62 out of the game.

  • Comment 134, posted at 08.10.10 20:58:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 131) : :grin:

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  • Bwahahahahaha
    Waar is die Leeu supporters nou??

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 134) : I am still in it with a lifeline. Got lucky last week.

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  • @wpw (Comment 136) : be nice, I’ve met the guy and he is really nice, he is just sulking right now. :lol: :wink:

  • Comment 138, posted at 08.10.10 21:04:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • KSA Shark
    Let me guess, sudden death AGAIN on LMS?? :roll:

  • Comment 139, posted at 08.10.10 21:06:52 by wpw Reply
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  • Superbru results for this game.

    Picks for Lions 23841 (99.26%)
    Picks for Pumas 170 (0.71%) :shock:
    Picks for draw 8 (0.03%)

  • Comment 140, posted at 08.10.10 21:09:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • DB
    Who are you refering to??
    CSB and Greg are cool dudes and I’m not planning on giving them a hard time.

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  • @wpw (Comment 141) : My humour appears to be too subtle for you Wes. I was referring to the single Lions supporter, the only one left. :wink:

  • Comment 142, posted at 08.10.10 21:11:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 141) :

    You only think Greg is cool because like YOU he also enjoys any bad press for the Sharks. :lol:

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 142) :

    He is STILL going to ask WHO you are refering to. :lol:

  • Comment 144, posted at 08.10.10 21:13:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 144) : :grin: :grin: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :grin: :grin:

  • Comment 145, posted at 08.10.10 21:15:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • CC log at the moment

    Played, Won, points
    Sharks 13 10 52
    Cheetahs 14 10 47
    WP 13 9 44
    Blue Bulls 13 8 42
    Lions 14 7 39

  • Comment 146, posted at 08.10.10 21:15:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 146) : It is amazing how many bonus points the Sharks have scored this season. Everyone is quite critical of the Sharks, saying they often don’t finish, but they must be creating many more scoring opportunities then, because they have won a majority of their games with bonus points, and even earned 4 bonus points from the three losses.

  • Comment 147, posted at 08.10.10 21:20:28 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB: your chirp went waaay over wpw’s head. :lol:

    I’m guessing no Lions fans for a few months now…

  • Comment 148, posted at 08.10.10 21:21:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 137) : :cool:

    @wpw (Comment 139) : Sudden death? I am not sure how the tie breaker will be determined this season but we HAVE come up with a good way of getting it done for future competitions.

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 147) :

    So true. And the difference between us and the 2nd placed Cheetahs who have won the same amount of games is then the BPs we have scored. 5

  • Comment 150, posted at 08.10.10 21:24:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 148) : :lol: so how vindicated do you think JPP feels right now. :mrgreen: And John Smit for that matter. Sorry Waylon, you should never have moved boet.

  • Comment 151, posted at 08.10.10 21:25:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 150) : With one more game scored, we, more than likely will pick up a bonus point in this game (odds are), so will have 6 more than them.

  • Comment 152, posted at 08.10.10 21:26:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 109) : assistant referee ;-)

  • Comment 153, posted at 08.10.10 21:27:25 by rekinek Reply
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  • FJELN!! :evil:

  • Comment 154, posted at 08.10.10 21:27:35 by wpw Reply
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  • The Sharks have also scored 4 more bonus points than the much hyped Province backline.

  • Comment 155, posted at 08.10.10 21:28:26 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 154) :

    See ya in the mornin’

    Please make sure you get your hairdresser appointment out of the way BEFORE the WP game. :razz:

  • Comment 156, posted at 08.10.10 21:29:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 155) :

    TRY BPs in 9 Games for the Sharks

    Only Griquas have matched that.

    9 Sharks, Griquas
    7 Lions
    6 Cheetahs, Pumas, WP
    5 Blue Bulls
    2 Leopards

  • Comment 157, posted at 08.10.10 21:33:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • DB, like you said, they are just also-rans again this season, despite the hype.

    Could well get better post-2011, but the interesting thing about the new rugby landscape is that Rands can’t buy you much experienced talent – those chasing the dough go abroad rather.

    Focus for success must be on scouting talent before its well-established, as well as building a franchise that players want to play for.

    They have some way to go on these keys.

  • Comment 158, posted at 08.10.10 21:33:51 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 157) : sharks 12 BPs in the season, cheetahs 7, wp 8, bb 10

  • Comment 159, posted at 08.10.10 21:36:20 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 159) : griquas also 12 bps

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 157) : Amazing how a good hard look at the numbers often leads to a very different perspective on things. I’m sure the Sharks have allowed less TRY bonus points scored against them as well. A combination of very strong attack and defense. Nice to see and looking forward to see how this style of play works against the tougher opposition that the returning Boks will provide.

  • Comment 161, posted at 08.10.10 21:37:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I’m dead ;) and soooo happy about it. Suck on that, Snoil! For the second time today

  • Comment 162, posted at 08.10.10 21:38:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 158) : The Lions have no Academy, no real way to keep young talent in the area.

  • Comment 163, posted at 08.10.10 21:38:35 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 158) : It is also important to provide a culture that makes the players want to stay. JPP is an excellent example of that, nice to see at the Sharks. The Lions have a very long way to go to develop that culture, what with getting rid of or losing almost every ounce of experience they had.

  • Comment 164, posted at 08.10.10 21:40:21 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 151) : at least the guy is getting some game time. had a good day today.

  • Comment 165, posted at 08.10.10 21:42:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 165) : I always thought Waylon would make a good 12, if given the chance. He was given plenty game time at the Sharks, but went into a terrible slump, then got injured, and never really showed anything again on the pitch, nobody to blame but himself for lack of game time. But hey, if he would rather have game time with a half rate outfit, then good luck to him.

  • Comment 166, posted at 08.10.10 21:44:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • okay…did not see this one coming….need to rethink my high opinion of the Lions… :|

  • Comment 167, posted at 08.10.10 21:44:33 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 167) : looking at the results, you can’t tell the difference between Loffie and Mitch. But all the hype surrounding Mitchell is what is carrying him right now, certainly not the results.

  • Comment 168, posted at 08.10.10 21:46:38 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 153) : splitting hairs now… ;-)

  • Comment 169, posted at 08.10.10 21:47:02 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 168) :

    extremely dissapointing to say the least…seems like a last flutter of the moth was the case past few weeks.. :lol:

  • Comment 170, posted at 08.10.10 21:49:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 166) : Lions may not be the best but at least he will have exposure to S15 and CC.

    With the Sharks he lost his place – even on the bench due to injuries, so Vodacom Cup ? It’s a pity he’s gone but better for the guy.

  • Comment 171, posted at 08.10.10 21:51:33 by rekinek Reply
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  • I always felt Waylon didn’t get enough faith from the coaches after his injury. Played at wing, and behind Stef at 13.

    Must be said though, while he remains a superb defender, he STILL runs sideways each time. :roll:

  • Comment 172, posted at 08.10.10 21:51:51 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 170) : I don’t want to be too harsh on Mitchell, he has only been coaching this one CC season and he has brought through some very talented youngsters, however, based on results, he must be surviving on reputation now.

  • Comment 173, posted at 08.10.10 21:51:59 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Rekinek, been meaning to find out: are you in the legal field?

  • Comment 174, posted at 08.10.10 21:53:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Thats the lions we know.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 172) : He does have a tendency to crab across the field a lot, and takes away a lot of space from his line.

  • Comment 176, posted at 08.10.10 21:54:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 167) : perhaps one should give some credit to Pumas.

    it was quite an exciting game all in all

  • Comment 177, posted at 08.10.10 21:55:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 172) : Also, after his injury, he developed this silly stutter step every time he got the ball, it slowed him down just a bit and gave the defense the time they needed to adjust. Not sure where that came from.

  • Comment 178, posted at 08.10.10 21:56:30 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 174) : yip … but don’t tell anyone ;-)

  • Comment 179, posted at 08.10.10 21:57:56 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 171) : I don’t wanna say anything nice about the Lions!!! :wink: :grin: :razz:

  • Comment 180, posted at 08.10.10 21:58:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 173) : I think people got so used to Lions loosing that when they actually won few games this type of hype was inevitable.

    I mean they beat sharks I think first time since 2007 semis.methinks

  • Comment 181, posted at 08.10.10 22:01:01 by rekinek Reply
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  • Also, if I had to choose between Lambie and Jantjes at this stage of their careers, I am definitely going for Lambie, simply because he is a part of a winning culture, and is an integral part of a winning team. Jantjes kept a losing team in the hunt for most of the season.

  • Comment 182, posted at 08.10.10 22:02:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 180) : i see :lol:

  • Comment 183, posted at 08.10.10 22:03:20 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 181) : I agree, but remember, the Lions always beat one or two of the big teams every season. It has not been the Sharks for a while, but they have beaten the Bulls, WP and the Cheetahs in the past few years under Loffie, so even that is not any different this year. I honestly think the hype is purely because Mitchell is there, the results are no different.

  • Comment 184, posted at 08.10.10 22:03:52 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • DB: I think he must be worried about re-injury, and therefore doesn’t run straight into contact anymore. Seems to not realise just how big he is anymore.

    Rekinek, may I ask what it is do you do? Always good meeting others from the fraternity.

  • Comment 185, posted at 08.10.10 22:06:12 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 177) :
    Reks

  • Comment 186, posted at 08.10.10 22:06:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 184) : I’m not enjoying saying this, I don’t want to see the Lions do badly, especially want to see them do well in the Super 15 against foreign opposition. One thing they do have going for them is their youthfulness, with all the super young talent that came through this year, the future does look quite bright for them, assuming they can hold onto them.

  • Comment 187, posted at 08.10.10 22:06:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 186) :

    wheres my post??

    did not see the game..perhaps my too high hopes for a Lions (huge) win was too much – clouded judgement…sorry Pumas! ;-)

  • Comment 188, posted at 08.10.10 22:08:09 by Ice Reply
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  • I tend 2 get xited for other teams if they seem to get on track..

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  • @Ice (Comment 189) : I’m not nice like you are, I only care if the Sharks are on track. :wink: :grin:

  • Comment 190, posted at 08.10.10 22:14:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 182) :

    i doubt if he’ll be there 4 much longer – but with the injection they got, perhaps he would…but if they keep a losing culture, doubt he’ll b staying 4 2 long

  • Comment 191, posted at 08.10.10 22:15:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 184) : true. I was thinking more of their most recent history – like no win at all during S14. In 2007 and 2008 they made CC semis at least. Last year was bad bad bad.

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 190) :

    if someone is better on track than the |Sharks,i am with u ! my ‘being on track” means taking out the Bulls out contention.. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 193, posted at 08.10.10 22:17:21 by Ice Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 192) : embarassing actually.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 185) : in practice .. commercial mainly agreements.

  • Comment 195, posted at 08.10.10 22:19:57 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 186) : yeeees.. ? :mrgreen:

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  • @rekinek (Comment 196) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 197, posted at 08.10.10 22:21:19 by Ice Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 187) : i was actually getting excited about Pumas. At least they got some wins this season, have a sponsor. Good to see some fighting spirit, they were not going to let the Lions walk over them.

    I’m embarrassed to think that there was a chance for Lions to get the semis.

  • Comment 198, posted at 08.10.10 22:23:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • Cool. I used to that too.

    I used to back the Lions cos they were underdogs. Still feel for them, but less so thanks to some of their fans.

    Still reckon WP fans are the coolest from another team. Other than on keo.

  • Comment 199, posted at 08.10.10 22:25:05 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 199) : It is the coastal attitude. :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 200, posted at 08.10.10 22:27:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 198) : I too am happy for the Pumas, and don’t think they have much chance of losing the relegation matches. Leopards on the other hand……. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 201, posted at 08.10.10 22:28:51 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 201) : yip. Heard Cobus Wiese talking on All Out Rugby that they should give unions the same amount of money to be competitive. I am in full disagreement with such socialistic approach and don’t think there is anything wrong in some advantages for unions that have a bit of business acumen. But having said that – would be really good to have 8 competitive teams.

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  • @rekinek (Comment 159) :

    @rekinek (Comment 160) :

    Overall yes.

    My post is refering to TRY BPs, the rest of the BPs are loss BPs. ;-)

  • Comment 203, posted at 09.10.10 04:51:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hi
    What a game Snoils wern’t the same team that played last week at all
    and to top it i had them for 15
    remind me never to pick them again cost me a point at the end :evil:

    where is GREG he was always a big one when they won gone in hiding when they lose :evil:

    Try next year LIONS really got a year to pic up the goods ;-)

  • Comment 204, posted at 09.10.10 07:05:34 by chaz Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 202) : I watched All Out Rugby, and I don’t think that Wiese said all teams should get the same amount of money. What he did talk about was a salary cap, similar to what all North American professional sporting codes have. Generally the salary caps are far more complicated than each team having the same amount of money to spend. For example, in the NFL, each franchise designates a certain number of “franchise players” each season, and the salary of those players does not count toward the salary cap. I don’t believe in socialistic approach, however, the only way for the smaller unions to become competitive would be to institute some sort of salary cap.

  • Comment 205, posted at 09.10.10 11:05:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 205) : When talking salary caps, drafts etc we need to look honestly at South Africa vs USA. 300 million vs 50 million. 5 million people with enough money to pay tax vs a rather rich 1st world country with disposable income.

    Sports marketing is multi billion in the US. All games are sell outs, the shear volume of people makes this so.

    We can’t get a quarter full stadium at games. And in the US the sports entertainment industry already pays the guys millions. And playing for the Lakers or Chicago Bulls doesn’t really make a difference.

    Playing for the Bulls or the Falcons does.

    Salary cap in a small market like this and a draft – players all bail to europe and I would too.

    Only way is to accept that the large Unions will always be large and that they will draw from all over the country.

    Now get the large Unions into grass roots development sure, but also see who is responsible for what and where. Make the schools accountable for sports, provide equipment and coaches?

    But salary caps and drafts are daft.

  • Comment 206, posted at 09.10.10 11:44:26 by goyougoodthing2 Reply

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  • We would also be clever to realise that Currie Cup 1st Div and Super rugby is not just rugby any more. It is Sports Entertainment. Wrestling with rules and no predetermined outcomes.

    But I pay, you play. Bang for buck. rugby stops at club and U21 level. All else is professional entertainment on a sports field for cash.

  • Comment 207, posted at 09.10.10 11:49:30 by goyougoodthing2 Reply

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  • @goyougoodthing2 (Comment 206) : You introduce a transfer fee payable from the buyer to the buyee and the smaller unions can then become the game’s skills developers and make a business out of it.

    Makes so much sense. Of course, anything that makes sense is alien to the powers-that-be. They seem to fear normality.

  • Comment 208, posted at 09.10.10 12:14:50 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 208) : Explain a bit more please.

    The smaller Unions don’t have money correct? So you want the bigger Unions to pay transfer fees when purchasing from smaller Unions?

    Makes sense. But then the smaller Unions won’t be able to purchase big names from the big Unions because they have no money. And transfer fees from a smaller Union to bigger would be less as the player would, normally, be younger, untested, etc.

    If I were a big Union I’d then sign the new player at X, pay the transfer on X and then renegotiate to XX when player arrives :-)

    And the agent would know this. Sneaky.

    Anyway, let me know how you see it working, the logistics, maybe I am missing something?

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  • Was at the game yesterday evening and its not a good way to be starting a “a new era” ..The Lions just looked pedestrian ..Credit to Pumas though they have had very good season.

  • Comment 210, posted at 09.10.10 12:45:25 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @goyougoodthing2 (Comment 209) : GYGT2 – the point is, those unions have been small for the last 100 years, so they can only benefit from the system where they get a cut out of developing players. Imagine the Pumas if they had been paid out when the sharks got Botes, Wannenburg, Jacques Schutte from them a few years back?

    The agents would still take comm, but possible smaller percentages from the union + player so he still gets the same cut, but the union now gets a fee and the player is less out of pocket.

    Imagine the Lionel Mapoe saga if this were the case (although in this case, it’s the law of contract vs ethics and legalised slavery).

    What player do you know of wants to move from say the sharks to EP? Only if they are not making the side or are coming to the end of their careers as in someone like de wet barry.

    My point is that the likes of Boland, EP, Pumas, Griffons, etc haven’t stayed small because of a lack of money but a lack of big thinking. (oops, had to edit this)

    Same reason why, under the present dictatorial style that exists at Free State where they openly admit they haven’t the money of the Sharks, Bulls, WP, they will remain small because for them, rugby is rugby, not business.

  • Comment 211, posted at 09.10.10 13:06:52 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 210) : Mitchell must have been supremely peed-off at his players. Showing no heart. A new era for some.

  • Comment 212, posted at 09.10.10 13:09:06 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 210) :

    Hey OU.

    sorry for the flak you guys are taking but some of your boys have been on here giving us a hard time in recent weeks. :smile:

  • Comment 213, posted at 09.10.10 13:13:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 213) :

    LOL I never quite understood how Lion supporters can be so outspoken ..its going on 10 years now since we have had any forn of success :roll:

    This investment is NOT going to change our fortunes anytime soon ..given the poor attendence last night its obvious that its going to take us winning on a consistent basis before we’re taken seriously again.

    I have to add though that Mitchell tenure cannot be compared to the likes of Ludeke and Loffie ..they sat with some Boks and very good players at their disposal.Whereas Mitchell has had to very quickly put a team together of no name brands and I feel he has done a brilliant job.

    On the plus side having to pick from the Pumas side for the Super series could be of benefit.

    Long straws I know :grin:

  • Comment 214, posted at 09.10.10 13:35:59 by CoffeeShopBok;-) Reply

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  • @goyougoodthing2 (Comment 209) : True but big names won’t go to play at a smaller union. The big names will stay at a bigger union where there is more money to pay his salary. The only time he would go to a smaller union is like in the case of de Wet Barry or Solly T.

  • Comment 215, posted at 09.10.10 13:39:57 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 215) and goyougoodthing2 – I would think the thinking with transfer fees would be relatively easy to set up and run. Avoid salary caps like the plague because unlike American Football and other games they are world champions of a game only they play, they can’t very well go overseas like our rugby players can.

  • Comment 216, posted at 09.10.10 13:50:42 by Baldrick Reply

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  • @CoffeeShopBok;-) (Comment 214) :

    :smile:

    i would actually love to have a look at the CC figures for ’07, ’08 & 09 from a Played, Won, lost point of view to see how they really stack up.

  • Comment 217, posted at 09.10.10 14:55:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Baldrick (Comment 216) : Not a bad idea indeed. Transfer fees means more money to develop in the smaller Unions and better development for the bigger Unions.

    Now I would, as a big Union, agree to this with one condition:
    The current system of voting where the small Unions have more say than the big would have to end.

    The tail wags the dog at the moment. So agree to change the structure of the Presidents’ Council and then agree to transfer fees.

    Would suit everyone. Anyway, goyougoodthingsSharks!

  • Comment 218, posted at 09.10.10 16:46:55 by goyougoodthing2 Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 130) : Guess again!

  • Comment 219, posted at 11.10.10 08:52:21 by Greg Reply

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