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Schalk and de Jongh ruled out


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Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 1 Nov 2010 at 15:05
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SARU have confirmed that Schalk Burger and Juan de Jongh have been ruled out of the End of Year Tour due to injury.

Schalk has a broken rib and de Jongh suffered a hairline fracture to his left ankle. Burger will be replaced by Deon Steggman and de Jongh by Adi Jacobs. Zane Kirchner has also been added to the tour party to keep the allocated 30 members.

Meanwhile, Jean de Villiers, Willem Alberts and Chiliboy Ralapelle all sat out the Springbok training sessions today as they are all nursing niggling injuries.



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  • Who here thinks that Ludik will do much better than Krusty the clown?!

  • Comment 1, posted at 01.11.10 15:08:43 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Did Flouw go out with PdV’s daughter and not call…

  • Comment 2, posted at 01.11.10 15:10:54 by McLovin Reply

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  • Yep Ludik would have been better. Alot better. Rian Viloen of the Griquas would also have been pretty awesome. Who did Francois Louw piss off to get overlooked again?

  • Comment 3, posted at 01.11.10 15:12:44 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 1) : bolla conradie would do better at fullback than krusty the clown! :)

  • Comment 4, posted at 01.11.10 15:13:02 by Ben Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : Lol. He must have done something…

  • Comment 5, posted at 01.11.10 15:13:30 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) :

    @PTAShark (Comment 3) :

    I have to agree.. I dont rate Steggman at all..

  • Comment 6, posted at 01.11.10 15:13:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Stegmann and Adi has barely played any rugby in the last year. As much as I rate the 2 players they can’t possibly be matchfit. Well Crusty….I dunno.

  • Comment 7, posted at 01.11.10 15:15:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 1) : Even Oupa!

  • Comment 8, posted at 01.11.10 15:16:11 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 7) :

    Adi will def get some gametime now..

    And I do think Adi is fit, he went through the conditioning program and was apparently very fit. Looking forward to Adi back in the Green and Gold..

  • Comment 9, posted at 01.11.10 15:17:51 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : Being fit and being match fit are totally different IMHO

  • Comment 10, posted at 01.11.10 15:20:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • The Springbok injury list:

    John Smit
    Jaque Fourie
    Wynand Olivier
    Andries Bekker
    Fourie du Preez
    Heinrich Brussow
    JP Pietersen
    Guthro Steenkamp
    Butch James
    BJ Botha
    Ricky Januarie
    Schalk Burger
    Juan de Jongh

  • Comment 11, posted at 01.11.10 15:20:47 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) :

    Thus why he didnt play in the semi or final..

    But there is no other way to get match fit than play some games

  • Comment 12, posted at 01.11.10 15:21:29 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • i also don’t like deon schmegma. he gives far too many penalties away. i would rather put derrick minnie or wikus van heerden in the squad.

  • Comment 13, posted at 01.11.10 15:22:05 by try time Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : 9 hougaard. 10 lambie. 11 habana. 12 jdv. 13 adi. 14 mvovs. 15 aplon. Promising attack that!

  • Comment 14, posted at 01.11.10 15:22:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 11) : Eish…does P Divvy need any MORE proof than that that the players need to be managed better.

  • Comment 15, posted at 01.11.10 15:23:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 9) : i would feel safer with andries there. in wet weather you a good defensive 12.

  • Comment 16, posted at 01.11.10 15:23:55 by try time Reply

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  • @ Ben, substitute 11 with Mvovs and I’ll be happy girl..

  • Comment 17, posted at 01.11.10 15:24:05 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • WHOOP ! WHOOP ! WHOOP ! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 18, posted at 01.11.10 15:24:50 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 11) : That’s 13…Adi’s number… :lol:

  • Comment 19, posted at 01.11.10 15:25:38 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 17) : and put habana on 14 or on the bench?

  • Comment 20, posted at 01.11.10 15:25:56 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 14) :

    Lambie will never start ahead of Morne Steyn..

  • Comment 21, posted at 01.11.10 15:27:49 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 14) :

    And Basson will start any day ahead of Mvovo..

  • Comment 22, posted at 01.11.10 15:28:52 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 20) : nee, voer hom vir di haaie! :lol: get someone else..hoover will be better!

  • Comment 23, posted at 01.11.10 15:30:00 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 21) : I know but I just love the idea! Maybe someone should kick morne’s shin off! ;)

  • Comment 24, posted at 01.11.10 15:30:35 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 23) :

    Hoover over Basson?

  • Comment 25, posted at 01.11.10 15:31:02 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 10) : agree. adi hasn’t played the new game. but then again p div doesn’t know the laws have been interpreted differently.

  • Comment 26, posted at 01.11.10 15:31:36 by try time Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 24) :

    We forget that Morne is a world class player, and even though I am fully behind taking Lambie on tour and giving him some game time, you cannot just drop a world class player for a young talent.

  • Comment 27, posted at 01.11.10 15:32:11 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 22) : imho mvovo is better than basson if there is no room to run into bassob won’t be as usefull as mvovs. Well that’s what I think

  • Comment 28, posted at 01.11.10 15:34:02 by Ben Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 2) : No, being a Province player, I suspect he went out with PdV and did not call.

  • Comment 29, posted at 01.11.10 15:35:45 by klempie Reply

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  • even Dewald Potgieter would have been a better bet…

  • Comment 30, posted at 01.11.10 15:35:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 27) : I disagree, morne is a world class kicker! Fullstop imo not a attacking flyhalf

  • Comment 31, posted at 01.11.10 15:36:45 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : I agree

  • Comment 32, posted at 01.11.10 15:37:23 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 29) : Did they go to the Spar? :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 01.11.10 15:38:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 27) : Morne didn’t look world class when he played against Lambie two weeks ago…

  • Comment 34, posted at 01.11.10 15:40:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ja they should have picked Luke Watson rather.

  • Comment 35, posted at 01.11.10 15:41:59 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : did you read the thank you note?

  • Comment 36, posted at 01.11.10 15:42:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 33) : OK you’ve completely lost me. LOL

  • Comment 37, posted at 01.11.10 15:42:54 by klempie Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 28) : I fully agree on that . Mvovo is the all round package where as Basson is only awesome in the air otherwise he is pretty ordinary with quite a bit of gas , but then again we saw on Sat just how much gas Mvovo has and he also has the option of running over the player unlike Basson who always has to go round !

  • Comment 38, posted at 01.11.10 15:43:25 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 23) : die haaie het kla saterdag vi habana opgevreet!

  • Comment 39, posted at 01.11.10 15:44:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 38) : Great minds think alike! :)

  • Comment 40, posted at 01.11.10 15:45:40 by Ben Reply
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  • Morne Steyn can only play some rugby if FDP is his 9.

  • Comment 41, posted at 01.11.10 15:48:59 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 39) : I know Ben Ten, I know!!

    @ Rich – no Hoover over Habana..

  • Comment 42, posted at 01.11.10 15:49:30 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 38) : as much as I love Lwazi, you can’t argue against 21 tries in a season…

  • Comment 43, posted at 01.11.10 15:51:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • @ Rich or Basson over Habs..just not Habana…he’s like a Hiena just waiting for scraps to snap and runaway…not much use otherwise.. :wink:

  • Comment 44, posted at 01.11.10 15:54:05 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : I can!

  • Comment 45, posted at 01.11.10 15:57:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 45) : yes, but you are special :)

  • Comment 46, posted at 01.11.10 16:01:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • Looks like Keegan will get a start then. I can’t believe Flo was over-looked. Man of the match in June and now he isn’t even rated as one of the top 4/5 opensiders…

    And kirchener is as average as white bread. Why not given Ludik a look in?

    This bok side is going to struggle- guys will be tired and they will have 5 days to gel… The bulls will be rested but the sharks forwards will be broken after saturday’s effort.

  • Comment 47, posted at 01.11.10 16:04:55 by juz Reply

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  • @juz (Comment 47) : I didn’t see a shark forward break on saturday? ;)

  • Comment 48, posted at 01.11.10 16:14:01 by Ben Reply
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  • Ludik would have been a far better option than Kirchner. Kirchner doesn’t have what it takes to play at test level. He is an average super rugby player at best.

    I don’t want to just start handing out Bok caps but with Kirchner we know what we have and it isn’t quite good enough. Why not test out Ludik at test level so we can get a better idea of our depth because we are pretty thin with fullbacks right now.

  • Comment 49, posted at 01.11.10 16:14:15 by lostfish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) : Yip Rob you cant but how many tries did he create out of nothing and how many tries did he cost his team ? Not slating the guy just saying that I think Mvovo is closer to the all round package than Basson . Would love to know who the selectors would pick if they had to choose . Mvovo would get my nod !

  • Comment 50, posted at 01.11.10 16:37:16 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 50) : mvovs would get 2 nods from me!

  • Comment 51, posted at 01.11.10 16:41:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 49) : And Ludik is still young enough to give us at least another 3 – 5 years ! He is also staring to find the form he enjoyed prior to being injured and he is definately not scared to join the line . Ludik , unlike Zayne , prefers to run with the ball so we dont have to worry about the good old up and under which has become Zayne’s weapon of choice every time he starts a counter attack!

  • Comment 52, posted at 01.11.10 16:42:26 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 1) : most folks.

  • Comment 53, posted at 01.11.10 16:44:12 by lostfish Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 52) : not a big crusty fan but you must take into consideration that a game plan may be blamed for him not joining the line too often methinks.

  • Comment 54, posted at 01.11.10 16:47:13 by rekinek Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 52) : not sure you can even call it a “weapon” of choice! A weapon is usually dangerous

  • Comment 55, posted at 01.11.10 16:48:50 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : Absolutely!! Cant remember when last he even gathered one of his own kicks or tackled the opposition who caught it . I must say that is one thing Pat is very good at , every time he kicks one , he either gets the ball back or he makes the tackle on the person who caught the ball!

  • Comment 56, posted at 01.11.10 16:53:21 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 56) : yes oupa also does that very well but he isn’t gonna play for the boks now is he!

  • Comment 57, posted at 01.11.10 16:58:45 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : classic comment

  • Comment 58, posted at 01.11.10 17:07:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 56) : you started celebrating yet? I still need to officially announce it, of course!

  • Comment 59, posted at 01.11.10 17:08:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 52) : Ludik also seems to have a far better understanding of the game and plays it far better ran than always taking a chase kick option.

  • Comment 60, posted at 01.11.10 17:09:49 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 57) : Maybe not but is a good lesson for any fullback , if you kick it up make sure you catch it or make the tackle on who dose , hopefully Zane learns that quickly !

  • Comment 61, posted at 01.11.10 17:09:56 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : Hell no , its not over till you say it is !! Had a great week though , spent the week up at champagne sport , played some golf , watched ” Lem” hit the ball very far [ forgot just how tall he was , makes Pat look like a midget ] and then packed it all up and drove home on Friday to start preperations for the game . Nice early start on Sat , lined the stomach with a curry mince vetkoek and headed off for supplies . Arrived at the game just after 1 and had the gazebos and spit going by 2.30 !!Left at 12ish , long day …..

  • Comment 62, posted at 01.11.10 17:18:22 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @juz (Comment 47) : Have to agree with everyone who can’t believe Flo isn’t in the squad. He was the key player for WP in preventing the kind of sustained Sharks momentum that would have seen that final score look way more embarrassing than it did.

    It seems as if he is still the scapegoat for the stuff-ups in New Zealand where he had no support from the overrated and out-of-form Spies and Burger.

  • Comment 63, posted at 01.11.10 17:21:34 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 62) : you miss my point… you check JustRugby.net recently?

  • Comment 64, posted at 01.11.10 17:29:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 64) : I have indeed and all I see is that it is closed so hoping that is a good thing cause there are some pretty close scores !

  • Comment 65, posted at 01.11.10 18:07:18 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 65) : it’s good news for you! Those scores are final

  • Comment 66, posted at 01.11.10 18:26:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 65) : Congratulations!

  • Comment 67, posted at 01.11.10 18:29:17 by war1 Reply
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  • @King Deysel (Comment 65) : Nice one, congrats. Bet wisely ;-)

  • Comment 68, posted at 01.11.10 18:56:02 by lostfish Reply
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  • Geez dude !!!! thats awesome !! had a few sleepless nights making the final captain pick and I got it wrong , should have backed the young guy !! Bit of a hit and miss but great fun was had . Thanks Rob and who ever else made it happen , great compo.

  • Comment 69, posted at 01.11.10 19:21:36 by King Deysel Reply
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  • Now I’ve heard it all. Mvovo better than Basson! Hahahaha

  • Comment 70, posted at 01.11.10 19:22:33 by wpw Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 67) : @lostfish (Comment 68) : Thanks guys, will try !

  • Comment 71, posted at 01.11.10 19:23:16 by King Deysel Reply
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  • Any news on Charl Macleod joining up with the springbok squad???
    Januarie should have never been there to start with! And I even rate Charl ahead of Hougard! :)

  • Comment 72, posted at 01.11.10 19:35:52 by s.h.a.r.k.s Reply

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  • @s.h.a.r.k.s (Comment 72) :not gonna happen kirchner was called up in rickys place

  • Comment 73, posted at 01.11.10 19:44:25 by Ben Reply
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    Kirchner is a fullback. Ricky a scrumhalf!
    You do know that Frans will only be available AFTER the Ireland game. :roll:

  • Comment 74, posted at 01.11.10 19:47:58 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 74) : yes I know pienaar can cover at scrumhalf. “Zane Kirchner has also been added to the tour party to keep the allocated 30 members.” From the article above…

  • Comment 75, posted at 01.11.10 19:54:49 by Ben Reply
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  • Charl has also done an ankle, I believe

  • Comment 76, posted at 01.11.10 19:55:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 70) : think I used the words ” better all round package ” but yes I would pick Mvovo before Basson and I think you will find many who agree with me .

  • Comment 77, posted at 01.11.10 19:58:20 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 74) : what does basson have that mvov’s doesn’t have?

  • Comment 78, posted at 01.11.10 20:01:36 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 78) : and don’t say 21 tries :)

  • Comment 79, posted at 01.11.10 20:02:45 by Ben Reply
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  • Charl is injured :-(

  • Comment 80, posted at 01.11.10 20:09:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • Anyone watching super rugby on ss1? They announcing player of the year

  • Comment 81, posted at 01.11.10 20:09:41 by Ben Reply
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  • Mvovo hardly ever looks for work and he has only played CC rugby!
    Basson has had a much better year which started during the S14.
    Come on guys, both pl)ers are very good prospects but Basson should be ahead in the queue.
    Oh and please remove your Sharks tinted glasses!! :twisted:

  • Comment 82, posted at 01.11.10 20:12:05 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 82) : whatever imo mvov’s is better just because he is stronger sure he is almost just as quick as basson!

  • Comment 83, posted at 01.11.10 20:15:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 82) : Basson also needs to improve his work rate but his skill under the highball is amazing. http://youtu.be/ItRmBIHvfy0 watch the kick at 49 secs and see him pluck that out of the air.

    Basson like Mvovo also needs to look for more work in the game.

    Mvovo has the potential and I do back him but Basson would get first pick simply because he has played S14 and he managed to top the try scoring logs in a team that lost more games than they won. It is easy to shine in a winning team but not quite so easy to shine on the losing side.

  • Comment 84, posted at 01.11.10 20:26:25 by lostfish Reply
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  • Me and a mate of mine (he is a Bulls supporter i’m sad to say :smile: ), had a discussion of who would be called up if either JdV and/or JdJ would not tour. My opinion was that seeing that Adi is already there, that PdV & Kie would select either Jantjies or Krusty (and i said it on a previous thread as well) and that Frans Steyn would cover the centre spot. I’m having a knack of getting the selections right thus far, hehehehe, Ian Mac’s job is on the line :grin:
    But i would NEVER have gotten the selection of Stegman right if i heard that Schalk was out. I seriously would have selected Flo.
    Or Jacques Botes :evil: :lol: Ag toe WPW, ek trek net jou siel uit. Het sulke larny Sharks shades aan terwyl ek Botes se naam genoem het.

  • Comment 85, posted at 01.11.10 20:30:45 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 82) : Mvovo has 5 Super 14 caps to his name

  • Comment 86, posted at 01.11.10 20:32:19 by war1 Reply
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  • Burger’s rib broken….must have been Alberts’ tackle that mowed him down on Saturday.

  • Comment 87, posted at 01.11.10 20:33:08 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 87) : I’m not sure about this but about in the 32nd minute burger got tackled and stayed on the ground for about 2min, it looked like strauss that tackled him!

  • Comment 88, posted at 01.11.10 20:37:27 by Ben Reply
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  • Was ‘bonecrunching’ none the less (pardon the pun) :smile:

  • Comment 89, posted at 01.11.10 20:41:35 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • Shocking, watching super rugby and its live! Point is not kobus wiese, ashwin willemse or breyton paulse know that steggman has been called up for schalk and they showed the springbok team even before they were asked about his replacement! Pathetic

  • Comment 90, posted at 01.11.10 20:45:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 89) : it was bone snapping :)

  • Comment 91, posted at 01.11.10 20:47:14 by Ben Reply
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  • :razz:

  • Comment 92, posted at 01.11.10 21:12:31 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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    How many CC tries did Lwazi score?? :grin:

  • Comment 93, posted at 01.11.10 21:36:26 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 93) : I’m not getting involved in a who should play argument, was just saying Mvovo played Super 14 this year.

  • Comment 94, posted at 01.11.10 21:40:22 by war1 Reply
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  • I wonder how many will be picking an Irish win on Superbru……I can feel another Cup looming ! LOL

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