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Frans – the confusion continues


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 11 Nov 2010 at 06:45
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If it’s not bad enough that he’s now being asked to play yet another position in the Bok backline, it seems the continual to-ing and fro-ing between himself and coach Peter de Villiers has left Frans Steyn somewhat bemused as to exactly how and where he fits into the current Bok plans.

Now, regular readers will know that I’m not a huge Steyn fan and haven’t really been for quite some time. Looking back over the statistics of a test career that spans an impressive 39 outings prior to this weekend’s match (impressive indeed considering he’s only 23), even the most jaundiced observer (i.e. me) would have to admit that the lad has been stuffed around and has had little chance, if any, to establish himself as a regular test starter in any single position.

Steyn has started 22 tests and been on the bench on 17 other occasions. Of those 22 starts, he has been selected in 5 different positions, making his debut at left wing before playing fullback (12 tests), inside centre (7 tests) flyhalf (1 test) and outside centre (1 test, with a second to come this weekend). Under Jake White, he was regularly selected in the back three at test level in his first year, despite (at that stage) having only played provincial rugby as an inside back for the Sharks. He picked up a few more caps during the regular test season in 2007, all at fullback and reserve, before being thrust into the number 12 jersey at the World Cup following Jean de Villiers’ injury in the opening game.

The dawn of the Peter de Villiers era saw him relegated back to the bench, making only two starts in 2008, at flyhalf and outside centre. 2009 then saw him emerge as the regular fullback both against the Lions and for most the Tri-Nations, apart from two games when he was somewhat bafflingly replaced by Ruan Pienaar. After the successful Tri-Nations campaign last year, he went to France and has, seemingly, only been picked as a last resort ever since and pretty much exclusively at fullback.

A big part of Steyn’s unhappiness seemed to stem from the fact that he felt he was a natural flyhalf, yet found himself shuffled all over the backline, both for the Sharks and the Boks. The record will show, though, that he has seldom really dominated in the number 10 jersey and despite game time at flyhalf being one of the reasons given for his big-money move to France, he features far more regularly in the number 12 and 15 shirts for Racing. Already something of a test veteran – and probably the only man who stands an outside chance of going on to play 150 or more times for his country if he continues to be selected – one would have reasons to argue that if he hasn’t managed to establish himself as a test flyhalf after 40 caps, he’s unlikely to become one in the future. That said, he does possess some rather frightening skills, not the least of which is a frankly massive boot which, while often wayward, is nonetheless extraordinary when he does manage to hit whatever he’s aiming at. While I can’t say I am a big believer in the philosophy of picking a player “just because”, even if he doesn’t fit the game plan or bring something unique to the position he’s being picked in, I also don’t believe in throwing away a 23-year-old with Steyn’s skill set – especially given that he’s already played almost 40 tests. You simply cannot buy that sort of experience.

Unfortunately, it appears as though the war of words between the youngster and the coach is nowhere near at an end – in a surprisingly candid interview with Mike Greenaway of the Mercury this week, Steyn admits that he is tired of all the drama. “It is not my fight. I am a professional rugby player and it is hard enough to focus on doing that job to the best of my ability without getting involved in off-field stuff. How did I get to be here this time? I don’t know, I don’t know anything anymore! They (Saru) spoke to the club, I got a ticket and flew here on Sunday. That is all I know and want to know. I just want to play the game, and to get the green and gold jersey back on is fantastic.” Hardly the words of a player who has been given any sort of clear indication about what the plan is and where he fits in.

Much more concerning is that until Steyn and de Villiers do actually start seeing things eye to eye, it is unlikely that the former will be used as anything other than an emergency stopgap – that is, “utility back” will become his permanent position. We all know that this scenario is definitely NOT what the player wants and probably isn’t something that really suits the team either, since there’s nothing like a good continuous run in a single position to boost form and confidence. My gut feel is that Steyn could develop into a incredibly useful option in either of the centre positions, but given that fullback is the area in which the Springboks are clearly lacking a player of established class, it would make sense for the youngster to be the default selection for the Boks in this position.

It all has to start with somebody – be it the coach or the player – being the bigger man and taking the first step towards resolving the stand-off. With both opting to play the spoiled child card in turns, it’s pretty clear that nobody is going to win, least of all the Springboks.



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  • An interesting view point on the matter. I thought he was taking a step in the right direction by leaving it up to SARU and the Club this time round myself.

    All that stuff aside, I prefer him at 15.

    He’s not a small lad (100kg). I read somewhere this week that they said he was 110kg. But I have no confirmation of that as of yet. Point is, at his size, I’d like to see him finding the space for just a tad more speed. And for him to hold the #15 down, I think he’s going to have to learn to play with the same urgency that Jantjes was displaying before he broke his leg. I just don’t see that yet.

    For him to hold #10 down? Well, I think that’s a dream that should have been let go 25 tests ago. Sadly, I think Dicky messed around two phenomenal talents in both Piennaar and Steyn. Neither of them know quite how or where to fit in anymore. They’re both extremely capable and do have their good games, but neither give me the same security in their own “preferred” positions as say a du Preez and Hougie or a Steyn and even a Lambie.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.11.10 07:04:10 by rugbypedia Reply
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  • All his own doing I’m afraid.

    Had he stayed in SA none of this would be an issue.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.11.10 07:59:08 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : I agree that it is his own doing. He was very talented, and unfortunately that went straight to his head, a real primadonna, and thinking everybody ows him something.
    But i still rate him as a player. Specially @ 12…… But @ 15 also. I really hope this does not happen to another very talented youngster currently in the Sharks and Boks squad……….

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.11.10 08:11:16 by SharksRTB Reply
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  • My previous post did a Mary Celeste…

    In summary – Fransie was not better than Percy, JPP, Habana, JdV or Butch in the 15, 11/14, 12 or 10 positions – where was he to settle? He got selected because of his skill and versatility, but sadly for him, he wasn’t better than any of the incumbents.

    Right now, he should choose either 15 or 12 – I think he could be fantastic at either.

    Somehow I suspect that the sight of 2 younger prodigies in Lambie and Jantjies may help buy him some perspective, especially when you consider how unobtrusive they are.

    Reading the article, I suspect that it might have already – he made a comment about people forgetting about you quickly in SA. well, he chose to leave!

    Anyone know if he is really 110kg now? SBWho?

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.11.10 08:13:31 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Phillip Burger coming back to the Cheetahs from France….
    And the cheetahs are without a main sponsor?
    Man, that why the hefty transfer fee was asked for Mapoef. I think two Lion millionares and the Cheetahs made a shady deal.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.11.10 08:13:46 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • As much as I dislike Fransie’s attitude he is a good player and I for one hope this fued between him and Div is resolved soon.

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.11.10 08:42:19 by wpw Reply
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  • Even the great Mannetjies Roux was shifted around between 11,12,13 and 14. Players of serious talent like Steyn and Roux adapt well and succeed where ever they are picked.

    Others of lessor talents fail and then stories of ‘being stuffed around’ are thrown around by players and fans alike. Not the players fault I might add. But you will play where you are selected.

    Frans has the talent to make it at either 12/13 or 15. I prefer him at 12 actually but as you say 15 is where the apparent ‘weakness’ lies at the moment with world class centres in JDV, Fourie and JDJ hanging around.

    Another really nice ‘problem’ to have and certainly a guy I want in a green jersey come RWC 2011.

    He’s one of those guys, who you just have to ask the question of.. Would you rather he is playing with you or against you? Enough said.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.11.10 09:20:49 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • Would Frans have even been considered if he couldnt have kicked so far.

    I see Phillip Burger is going back to the cheetahs next year…..I would have liked his attitude in the sharks team.

    Is Mapoe now a lion for sure?

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.11.10 09:35:45 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • frans is still young and div is old. maybe if he outlives div’s tenure he will have a chance to make 150 tests. i reckon he is best suited at 12,13. he should stay there. if you look at our classy centres one of them is always injured therefore you are always going to need depth.

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.11.10 09:48:06 by prgdad Reply

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  • @prgdad (Comment 9) : I dont know about 13 for frans,the times I have seen him at 13 he gets exposed at the outside.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.11.10 09:50:54 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 8) : Mapoe isn’t a lion he’s a snake but yes he will be playing for the lions nex season!

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.11.10 09:53:57 by Ben Reply
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  • Interesting coming from Rob! :wink:

    I like Fransie @ 12!

    Sportbilly, u cannot compare apples with pears imo. Mannetjies Roux did not play in a pro era. I am sure that makes a difference. As a professional one likes to specialise in one area, ultimately it’s your job and u get paid for it. So, in that sense, to be selected in one position and do your best to become the best, u will ensure more starts and ultimately increase ur salary..if that makes any sense!

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.11.10 10:01:49 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • An interesting article! Well put accross. I am a fan of Steyn, and it’s just because. I think he has an unknown factor/unpredictability that can turn a match. Either way – I know! I have a feeling he will be around for a while – he’s 23, I would like to think he’ll get a lot more SB caps.
    But, that’s just my opinion…

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.11.10 10:01:52 by Champion Shark Reply
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  • Frans has never looked like a 13 – doesn’t run the right lines or have the drift defence.

    Much better at carrying the ball up, releasing in the tackle, and man on man defence. All the attributes of a class 12.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.11.10 10:02:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • With the class centres we have I prefer fransie at the back where he can launch huge kicks and make line breaks running from the back. I do think he should work on his pace a little and if that means losing some weight so be it! Although I think he’s EGO is also slowing him down a fair bit! ;)

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.11.10 10:06:56 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : not to mention all that hair!

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.11.10 10:17:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : think his ego might be hidding inside all that hair!

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.11.10 10:22:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) :

    Well in that case WP should make him an offer.

    You know how we love our glory boys!! :twisted:

    http://cdn.24.com/files/Cms/General/d/947/0f114f0d01484f34bcb81fa8b55fe286.jpg

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.11.10 10:28:00 by wpw Reply
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  • Could it be that a healthy dose of confidence are confused with arrogance?? Just a question…

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.11.10 10:30:32 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : Well im rumours are to be believed….never mind

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.11.10 10:31:31 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) :

    His current club stats still put him at 100kg. I’d be really surprised if he’s managed to gain 10kg since leaving our shores where he probably spent all his years eating pap and meat.

    I agree with you, neither Frans or Ruan were the first choice players in their respective preferred positions back then. They were excellent cover off the wood. And absolutely they were picked for their versatility. And at Bok level that’s fine. You play with pride wherever they put you. I would have preferred it however, if while playing for the Sharks, under Dicky as well, that they had been given fixed duties. Perhaps they would have been better off for it now.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.11.10 10:33:26 by rugbypedia Reply

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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 19) : I think you might be pushing it! ALOTT :)

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.11.10 10:34:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) :

    That’s extremely funny! Ha ha!

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.11.10 10:40:02 by rugbypedia Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 22) : I was talking from experience!! :lol:

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.11.10 10:47:44 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 24) : lol :)

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.11.10 10:53:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @rugbypedia (Comment 23) : do I detect a hint of sarcasm? :)

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.11.10 10:57:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 26) : well, considering you have none, perhaps the jokes on you!! :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.11.10 11:06:21 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 27) : that was uncalled for! ;)

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.11.10 11:11:47 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 28) : Don’t worry, I am sure Rob will retaliate witha biatchslap! :lol:

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.11.10 11:15:15 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 12) :
    I couldn’t disagree more – as an employee, you get paid to do whatever your employee contract says – and if it allows for role/ job switching, then so be it.

    Fransie was not made a Bok on the assumption that he will play in one possie. He can refuse to participate if he wants – just like any employee can resign if they don’t like the broadness of their role.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.11.10 11:59:12 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 30) : If you are a specialist, u would normally not do the admin…but I respect your take on this. Rugby is just a bit different and timelimiting to compare it to a “real” job imo

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.11.10 12:14:18 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 30) :

    Bro, did you not get the memo??

    You’re not allowed to disagree with Ice, especially not on this site!! :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.11.10 12:14:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 32) : did Rob really instructed you not to pee me off??? :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.11.10 12:17:09 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 32) : come to think of it…I don’t think he has ever agreed with anything I say..

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.11.10 12:18:58 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 31) :
    You were the one talking about professionals and specialists – I just adopted your point of reference.

    @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 34) :
    He can be like that.

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.11.10 12:31:46 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 35) :

    You adopted the wrong point of reference..Ultimately as a porfessional (rugby player)…apples and pears referred to Pro vs Amateur

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.11.10 12:37:25 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Bring back Frans Steyn to the Sharks..

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.11.10 13:04:18 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 37) :

    I know Rob is still youngish and fit, but dont give him a heart attack now!! :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.11.10 13:09:34 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Lol should i try and write an arti on why frans steyn must re-join the sharks?;-)

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.11.10 13:13:34 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 39) :

    Abso!! I like Steyn – but does “the Sharks”!? :?:

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.11.10 13:20:53 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @the ice-lady :-D : the sharks as in sharks management/sharks players/sharks fans?

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.11.10 13:35:43 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 41) :

    The whole caboodle! :?: :lol:

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.11.10 13:40:31 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • ??no cant be!! Im a big frans steyn fan and a know quite a few others.. You sure??

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.11.10 13:48:04 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 43) :

    No Man – you have it all wrong! I dont know… It was some sort of a question!

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.11.10 13:52:23 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Oh

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.11.10 14:01:34 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 45) :

    or perhaps I know something you dont!! :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.11.10 14:03:59 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • ?? Lol ..hope he didntleave because he had a fall-out with the coaches/teammates/management

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.11.10 14:08:48 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 47) :

    Well, the R7m a year would have done it for me too..fight or no fight! :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.11.10 14:11:12 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Fight??was there then quite a heated disagreement about what pos he should /could/wants to play? Yeah,7mil is a whole lotta money but there really is more to life .who and what made him unhappy?

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.11.10 14:25:22 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 49) :

    Stop reading between the lines!! LOL (as an avid shopper) I say – even if there was no fall-out, R7m would have twisted my arm! ;-)

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.11.10 14:38:28 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Frans always looks confused to me. :twisted:

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.11.10 14:40:59 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 51) :

    But he makes sure every one else “verstaan”… :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.11.10 14:42:25 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Mclovin: watch out now.. :-D

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.11.10 14:51:51 by bergshark Reply

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  • Would like the official sharks song to be- fransie come back!bring back your big boot and your dropkick!fransie come back!please,come back! (Sing along now you all :-D rob,you also :-D ) ..everyone know the beat? Baby,come back (forget the name of the artist now)

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.11.10 15:02:04 by bergshark Reply

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  • Guess im doing a solo then ..(eyeroll)

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.11.10 15:17:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • Its all irrelevant really. This time next year PdV will probably be gone and it will all have chnaged.

    I’ll eat my own shoes if Steyn doesnt make 100 caps. Provided he doesnt pick up a career-ending injury that is.

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.11.10 15:17:56 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Are we gonna let another world cup winning just leave??!;-)

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.11.10 15:26:18 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 57) :

    “we” have no say in this…

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.11.10 15:28:33 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 56) : running barefoot is better for you anyway

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.11.10 15:35:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 57) : I’d rather want pienaar back…

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.11.10 16:53:04 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 60) : me too. Would take Pines back before Fransie.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.11.10 17:00:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 61) : without winking man

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.11.10 17:13:05 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 62) : I seldom wink :)

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.11.10 17:30:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 63) : lol I meant without blinking

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.11.10 17:35:04 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 5) : Maybe they should ask Harley Davidson ? :twisted:

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.11.10 17:44:04 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Fransie is 23 years old and Helium Pete has a contract til the end of the World Cup. Who do you think is gonna outlast who? Frans must just bide his time for a year until that blowhard is out of the system.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.11.10 17:48:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 56) : Damnit. You beat me to it! :evil:

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.11.10 17:51:55 by klempie Reply

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  • The problem is his not the complete package in any one position thats the biggest problem and is talented enough to play 4 positions .Even on this comment page there isn,t a consensus on which position he should play

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.11.10 23:09:58 by zvision10 Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 51) : :lol:

  • Comment 69, posted at 12.11.10 00:32:30 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • Shit. There I am forced to break my own rule.

    Great article Rob. Great logic. Great grammar. Even the punctuation seems perfect, I guess.

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 4) :

    I have no problem with him being behind any of those guys.
    But he has also been behind Jantjes, Pienaar and now Aplon at 15. Jacobs, Fourie and Butch at 12. Ndugane and Nowke on the wing.

    Frans Steyn has only become outspoken about it this year while Peter de Villiers seems to have viewed him as a last resort pick from the start.

  • Comment 71, posted at 12.11.10 01:48:08 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Thanks fyndraai. High praise indeed!

  • Comment 72, posted at 12.11.10 09:35:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • If you look at the players coming through Id definitely have Frans Steyn at 12. There are enough, quicker, guys to fill in at 15 whereas our centre depth is not that fantastic. Besides JDV and Fourie i think beyond the WC we need to look at a Steyn and JDJ combination. Steyn has played more at 12 than 15 for Racing anyway and is more suited there as he will perform a roll similiar to what Aaron Mauger did for the All Blacks.

  • Comment 73, posted at 12.11.10 09:37:05 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 73) :

    Welcome to site!

    Are you the Sheldon I think you are?

  • Comment 74, posted at 12.11.10 09:43:57 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 74) : I guess that would largely depend on which Sheldon you think he is? :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 75, posted at 12.11.10 10:42:11 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 75) :

    Haha..

  • Comment 76, posted at 12.11.10 10:44:05 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • So, which Sheldon do u think he is, Rich?

  • Comment 77, posted at 12.11.10 10:48:45 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 77) :

    A Sheldon that I know from work..

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  • yes rich, digging this site!

  • Comment 79, posted at 12.11.10 11:11:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 78) : From his avatar he looks a lot like fyndraai, maybe they are brothers :?: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 80, posted at 12.11.10 11:13:13 by Greg Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 79) :

    Awesome man! Welcome on board!

    How did your season go? You a Rovers boy hey?

  • Comment 81, posted at 12.11.10 11:13:26 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Ahhh, now we know two people who,s not doing their job!! :wink:

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.11.10 11:14:34 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • No Old Boys hey.
    Picked a few irritating injuries so not the best season.
    Looking forward to next year.
    Big things happening at Old Boys.

  • Comment 83, posted at 12.11.10 11:17:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 83) :

    Awesome man.. I wish you the bst of luck! I might come around a cover a few games for the site..

    How is the new job treating you? Still enough free time to do as you please?

  • Comment 84, posted at 12.11.10 11:20:56 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Ya job going well.
    Not the hardest work so i get it done quick and im pretty much my own boss.
    Ya would be awesome to have more club rugby coverage on the site.
    There really are a lot of quality games and players playing club rugby in KZN.

  • Comment 85, posted at 12.11.10 11:23:35 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 85) :

    Will make a plan to come around and cover the games and get involved more.. Would like to do a few interviews and get insight as to how everything goes..

  • Comment 86, posted at 12.11.10 11:28:07 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 85) : well – if Rich has the time to cover it, we will gladly provide the platform!

  • Comment 87, posted at 12.11.10 11:28:25 by robdylan Reply
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