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Player Ratings: Boks v Wales


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 15 Nov 2010 at 08:52
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South Africa managed to beat a very competitive Welsh team on Saturday, but how well do we rate each o the individual players?

Gio Aplon
Had another solid game at the back, and should be the fullback for the next two games. Was magnificent on defence – 8/10

Bjorn Basson
He must be the best player in the air for the Boks, and has shown time and again that he can chase. Its just a concern that he doesn’t look for more work – 6/10

Frans Steyn
First game back for the Springboks on this tour, and it was not his best either. Steyn was eager to impress but did not bring anything to the game that Kirchner couldn’t. – 5/10

Jean de Villiers
Jean tried everything on attack and carried the ball well, and was strong on defence. A solid yet average game by his standards– 6/10

Bryan Habana
He has gone backwards from his game against Ireland, and his tendency to push up on defence puts the Boks at risk more often than not. Not a very good game at all – 4/10

Morne Steyn
It’s not often that Steyn misses easy kicks, but its two in two games now. One gets the feeling that he is a bit tired after a very long season. The Boks could have had a few more tries had he given the ball some air. – 6/10

Ruan Pienaar
He was shown up by the far superior decision making skills of his opposite number. His waving arms and constant talking to ref let him down in this match. – 5/10

Pierre Spies
Continued in his comeback to form with another solid game. He is hungry for the ball and is getting involved both on attack and on defence. – 7/10

Juan Smith
This man loves running with the ball, and had a very solid game. He was a monster on defence and is an asset to this team! He is owning that 7 jersey for the World Cup next year. – 7/10

Deon Stegmann
His second game in the Green and Gold was not as impressive as his first. Will have to wait for the stats to see whether he was not visible due to hard work in the rucking – 6/10

Victor Matfield
This is turning out to be a very good tour for the big man. Scored a try on the day he became the most capped player for the Springboks, and was superb in the lineouts. – 8/10

Bakkies Botha
Good game from Bakkies, he is doing the hard work up front and being a tower of strength in the lineouts. Made a few great, hard tackles! – 7/10

Jannie du Plessis
It was not his best game of the season, but was solid nonetheless. He forms the rock in this strong front row, the best in South Africa for sure! – 6/10

Bismarck du Plessis
A solid game from the big hooker. He was busy as always with ball in hand, but conceded a few penalties. – 6/10

Beast Mtawarira
Another rip roaring performance from the great Beast. He dominated his opposite number in the scrums and proved he is invaluable to this team. Great performance – 8/10

Replacements worth rating:

Willem Alberts
Came on just after half time for Stegmann, and made an immediate impact. He scored a try in his first 5 minutes in a Bok jersey. This big, strong flank will be pushing for a starting jersey – 8/10

Flip van der Merwe
A strong performance replacing Bakkies, doing the hard work in the rucks and in the lineouts. – 6/10

Francois Hougaard
Showed Ruan Pienaar how to pass a ball. Made a massive impact coming and switched on a previously dull backline. – 7/10

Pat Lambie
This kid can tackle hey! His distribution skills simply cannot be ignored, he can spot a good attack from anywhere. A solid second cap! – 6/10

All the other replacements were on for 10 or less minutes.



106 Comments

  • Time to let Mvovo at the scots perhaps?

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.11.10 08:59:34 by billy Reply
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  • Gio 7
    Basson 6
    Habana 3
    Steyn 4
    De Villiers 3
    Morne 5
    Ruan 4
    Spies 6
    Juan 7
    Stegmann 5
    Bakkies 7
    Victor 7
    Jannie 5
    Bismarck 6
    Beast 8

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.11.10 09:00:26 by Morné Reply
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  • Rich I think you might be being a little kind to give habana 4! He was useless!

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.11.10 09:02:16 by Ben Reply
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  • Give Pat a 7 at least :)

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.11.10 09:04:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) :

    Did we lose the match bru?? :twisted:

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.11.10 09:14:52 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 5) :

    You want to see my ratings for Wales?

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.11.10 09:17:29 by Morné Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 6) :

    Nah, I’ll pass!! :mrgreen:

    Is it worse?? :???: :smile:

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.11.10 09:20:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 7) :

    Hehe, yeah much worse.

    I think this was a poor test match actually.

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.11.10 09:27:31 by Morné Reply
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  • Between Frans and Habana, I’m not sure who was the biggest mampara.

    Still believe that we need to back Habana throughout this tour. Fransie needs to choose between France and the Bok jersey – his game has gone backwards (even though he has never looked like a 13).

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.11.10 09:27:59 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) : You singing another tune since Saturday re – Fransie Steyn ? :twisted:

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.11.10 09:34:31 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 10) :
    Nope, I am not judging him specifically as a 13 – he was played out of position.

    But he does also look slow and overweight compared to previously.

    I think he is very talented, but right now he is off his best. He is NOT a 13 either – Adi should be starting.

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.11.10 09:40:20 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : I agree, why play him out of position…

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.11.10 09:44:36 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : @Charlie (Comment 12) :

    Div is not being a leader right now. If he rates Adi (and we all know he does) then why not select him??

    :roll:

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.11.10 09:49:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) :

    Its a mystery Charlie Brown..

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.11.10 09:52:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Morning everybody…..so what did I miss the last 10 days?

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.11.10 09:53:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 15) :

    Morning.. Not much really.. We have just won two games in the Northern Hemisphere.. thats all..

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.11.10 09:55:43 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 13) : Seems like the voting of coaches for outside centre went 1 against 2… :sad:

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.11.10 10:00:23 by Charlie Reply

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  • Good Morning all

    I dont agree with many sentiments re F Steyn

    Maybe we should be looking at the person without pre-conceived perceptions etc, surely a player should be judged not on if we like him or not? but on his actual play

    If he was slow how come he gets has to cover his own tackles plus those he had to make covering for 10 and 12 slipping tackles??

    Here is something Jake White had to say…
    How Steyn changed the game
    Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:22

    Turning point: Francois Steyn tackles Shane Williams. (c) Gallo

    Wales will have a sick feeling Monday morning, knowing they missed a massive opportunity to beat the Springboks for the second time in their history.

    World Cup-winning Springbok coach Jake White, writing for RugbyXV, said they were unlucky not to win.

    White felt the turning point came when Frans Steyn tackled Shane Williams out of the game.

    “I have no doubt Wales would have won if Williams had stayed on,” White said.

    “He would’ve have threatened our already under-pressure defensive line even more, the Boks probably would have had to put two guys on him, and that would have opened up more space for others.

    “When Tom Shanklin broke the line and Williams was already off, that’s where Williams would have been at his best, because he would have run off him. That was just one example of where they missed him.

    “That’s why Frans Steyn changed the game for the Boks, and it shows why having big centres in defence is such a positive. Some have criticised Steyn for his showing at No.13 and the way the midfield struggled to gel, but they must be fair to the player. He’s played No.12, No.13, wing and No.15 for the Boks, plays mostly inside centre for his club Racing Metro, and we also want him as a No.10.

    “People must have some perspective, and all I can say is thank goodness we had Frans on Saturday.”

    Not only is Frans not used to playing centeras a combo with JdV but he had to do a lot of covering for missed tackles by some of his fellow boks

    I am not saying Frans had a great game but sure things must be looked at in perspective.

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.11.10 10:46:52 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Also having played the frans out of position there was also the expectation of them rotating positions during the match

    That to would cause huge problems

    Then another factor to me is the Habana and JdV trying to intercept all the time leaving huge gaps in the defence, this happened on about 5 occasions during the match

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.11.10 10:50:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) : interesting. Even if so I would not write such article. You cannot promote winning by elimination of players from opposite team.

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.11.10 10:50:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 19) : I’d rather had Frans at 12 and taking the ball over advantage line than de Villiers.

    I also did not like Habana’s leaving the line all the time. I actually would give him 0 and send home to get some rest and reevaluate.

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.11.10 10:52:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 9) : sorry boet cant agree with this statement at all

    go watch the game again…you might be surprised to see what you will see when watching the game without stress :lol:

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.11.10 10:53:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 22) : very true.

    F Steyn was not bad. The thing is if he tries to be flashy people criticize him for being selfish and if he is not and playing a team game than people think he’s poor because they did not see him.

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.11.10 10:56:57 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 23) : :grin: very true

    also again he was played out of position ,

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.11.10 11:03:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • anyhows we all judge players , but what we all forget is that i am no player tries to play badly lol

    thats one reason i dont really like sledging a player even if its rose or january :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.11.10 11:06:47 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 2) :

    Agreed on all of these ratings, but would give Basson a 5 at best, for not scoring a sitter of a try.

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.11.10 11:09:11 by Bump Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 18) :
    Jake White has zero credibility right now. It is pretty clear that he is doing his damnedest to make it appear that any victory is due to his legacy. Disappointing.

    @sharks_lover (Comment 22) :
    I watched the game, and Frans was stock standard. You do understand that a 12 and 13 have different roles right? Now ask yourself, what did Frans do well as a 13? Compare his game to that of Adi, Conrad Smith or Jacques Fourie.

    I already noted that he was played out of position, but to say that he played well is just plain blind.

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.11.10 11:13:02 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 27) : he did not say FS was great..? He said in comment 18 “I don’t say he had a great game…”

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.11.10 11:18:05 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 28) : tsst – maybe Fish is fishing … ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.11.10 11:20:41 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 28) :
    Well spotted Ice.

    You might want to apply that same sharp eye to my comment 27 and note that I said that Frans was “stock standard” and that I merely queried any assertion that he “played well”.

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.11.10 11:23:45 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Quote: but to say that he played well is just plain blind.unquote… :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.11.10 11:34:15 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 30) : BF i understand what ur saying but if you look at the factors caused by the likes of habana and jdv and msteyn you will see why it put so much defensive pressure on the other backline players

    in the first half even basson was useless on defense, yes he goes for the high balls , but look at his other defensive lapses

    trust me i understand full well what a 13 or 12 should be doing

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.11.10 11:35:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 31) : :lol: :lol: you tell him girl

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.11.10 11:36:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • and good day ice hun . how ru doing?? and how is little ice block?? he must be big already

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.11.10 11:37:30 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • I was once told not to hate the player, hate the game… :lol:

    SL – Ice cube is doing great – SHE is trying to drive me nuts and succeeding very well!

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.11.10 11:41:52 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 35) : :lol: good to hear hun greetings to hubby as well

    Thats how i see it too, by the way to pee off the likes of BF , fransie has said if and when he comes back to SA it will be back at the tank ;-) wont that just make their day :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.11.10 11:46:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 35) : btw sorry i am a lazy typer lol, unless really needed i dont worry about all the capital laters and full stops etc

    :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.11.10 11:47:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 36) : he did??

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.11.10 11:51:26 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 38) : yes he did

    also all the talk about him being a spoilt brat etc , was not true

    and that comes from a very reliable source

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.11.10 11:54:43 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • same as the strories doing the rounds about the 2 du plessis brothers being brats etc and wanting to leave the sharks

    total rubbish ,

  • Comment 40, posted at 15.11.10 11:55:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Interesting!!

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.11.10 12:01:23 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • catcha laters ice hagd… work calls

  • Comment 42, posted at 15.11.10 12:08:10 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 19) :

    Bru, all you doing is trying to deflect the attention onto other players. ;-)

    If Frans, Habs or Ruan had bad games then so be it.

    I still don’t see why Frans in particular MUST be in the team all the time. When last did he have a good game for the Boks??

    Last year?? :roll:

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.11.10 12:38:39 by wpw Reply
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  • Kekkeleke! Wes het sy eier gele!!

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.11.10 12:46:34 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Facts is Wes, don’t take it out on the player because Div is not choosing Adi and play Frans out of position… Be fair

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.11.10 12:49:10 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 45) :

    What do you mean??

    I will give credit where credit is due but in this instance Frans had a poor game.

    Last week, Zane made ONE mistake all game and was crucified for it even though he hasnt played centre for a number of years.

    Frans made the very same mistake (losing the ball backwards) and missing a tackle or three and not a peep from his groupies on this site.

    Its called double standards, i am sure you know the meaning of the phrase!! :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.11.10 12:56:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 46) : I had nothing bad to say about Zane last week…what do you know about double standards? The only double you know about is a double cheesburger and a double thick milkshake! :twisted:

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.11.10 13:01:53 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 47) :

    See, this is what happens when people can’t offer reasonable debate. :roll: :???:

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.11.10 13:07:11 by wpw Reply
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  • Oh really?? Says Mr Debate himself??

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.11.10 13:13:32 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Debate is not knocking people’s opinion… Its about presenting facts and thus persuaing peoples initial opinions.. I do noy see you doing it either..

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.11.10 13:16:21 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 48) : @wpw (Comment 46) : Jeez… Mar jy het baie eiers om te lê.. groupies nogal???

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.11.10 13:21:26 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 48) :
    Got to know when to chip in and when to opt out. ;-)

    Let me give you an example. On Rob’s thread “Sharks Juniors Staying at the Tank”, I said that we should not sign any more players (as we have plenty of young talent), and rather save the money to bring Fransie back.

    Then yesterday, on the thread “Boks break Welsh hearts – again!”, I wrote the following about Fransie:
    “Fransie is not a 13; good 12 though. I dont think its fair to judge him on today’s performance.”

    Yet today I am suddenly a Fransie hater and unable to see the truth beyong my bias? :roll:

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.11.10 13:21:38 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Sorry Wes, but I cannot help but get the feeling that you sat waiting like a vulture for Steyn to fail, so you can ride on your wave…not much different from the people who waited for Zane to fail.. :roll:

  • Comment 53, posted at 15.11.10 13:25:05 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Imho Fransie saved us from being torn up to shreds by Shane Williams after nailing him.Prior to that he was breaking our line almost at will ..seems to have his best games against the Boks.

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.11.10 13:26:54 by CSB Aplon's Biggest Fan ! Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) :

    Nah dude, i noticed that our good friend Ys gets personal whenever we don’t agree.

    Poor form imho. :roll:

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.11.10 13:26:55 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) : hey now be nice i dont think ur a fransie hater ;-) :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.11.10 13:27:13 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 43) : probably at the same time Habana had a good game for the Boks :shock:

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.11.10 13:27:59 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Whats so interesting at the top of the thread .. ;-)

  • Comment 58, posted at 15.11.10 13:29:20 by CSB Aplon's Biggest Fan ! Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 55) : moenie shite praatie blikskottel :lol:

    infact young man i was one of the few on keo saying i thought kirchner did well at 13

    and when he came on the past weekend he put in a few big hits

    dont compare us to some of the Keo kooses :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 59, posted at 15.11.10 13:29:48 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 57) : lol

    habana should be dropped for a few to get his head right

  • Comment 60, posted at 15.11.10 13:30:48 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • My view: Habana was crap… Ruan and JDV were a close second. And Morne is looking VERY tired!

    Frans wasn’t a star… but he did tackle Williams out of the game :smile:

    I reckon this week we should drop/rest Habana, Morne Steyn and Pienaar. Bringing in Mvovo, Lambie and Hougaard defintely won’t weaken the team, so why not try?

    I wouldn’t start Alberts this week, but definitely next week against the Poms. He really needs to be a starter, but I propose keeping him back as a “surprise” for the Poms.

    There’s no doubt Frans Steyn is not playing like the wunda kid wpw knows he is :mrgreen: , so I think 13 is too much in the frontline for him until he gets match fit again. So I’d put him at 15, Aplon at 14 and bring Adi in to test his match fitness.

    I think Steyn’s positional play at Fullback will be better than Aplon’s, so he’ll be able to add some value at 15 whilst I don’t think he’s currently adding much at 13. I’m not saying he’s bad at 13, just not adding value… and therefore bringing Adi in can’t make the midfield any weaker.

    Our midfield is the weakness at the moment, but with 2 injuries I guess we couldn’t expect any less. I think the real problem is at 12 (the Welsh were clearly targeting his channel), but we don’t have the personel to be dropping JDV at this stage.
    That’s why I think it’s worth trying Adi for a new approach.

  • Comment 61, posted at 15.11.10 13:30:50 by CS Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) :I certainly did not say that – I merely pointed out that SL did not say – as per your indication that he did – that FS has a great game… You are also now doing the same as what other people do to you..not?

  • Comment 62, posted at 15.11.10 13:32:15 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Wes, ur a good one for making “getting personal” remarks.. You can put a smiley behind yours, then its okay, when I do it its not…how’s THAT for double standards?

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 57) :

    And your point is??

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  • @CSB Aplon’s Biggest Fan ! (Comment 58) :
    Is that a trick question? :grin:

    @CS (Comment 61) :
    Frans at 15, Adi at 13 and Aplon at 14 will hopefully be the team for Scotland. I dont think they will throw Mvovo in to start – probably off the bench.

    @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 62) :
    I have addressed this assertion already.

  • Comment 65, posted at 15.11.10 13:37:49 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 65) :

    :mrgreen:

    Id go with those changes.

  • Comment 66, posted at 15.11.10 13:46:01 by CSB Aplon's Biggest Fan ! Reply

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  • I don’t think Fransie played very well, I don’t think he’s ever played a very good game at 13. Best shot would be to move him to 15 or 12. That’s where he’s been playing for Metro.

    I agree with Fish, I don’t think his time in France is doing him any good. The standards is just not up there.

    Zane did way better than I thought he did and actually I thought he did a better ob at 13 than Fransie did.

    That’s what I have to say on the topic at hand. :smile:

  • Comment 67, posted at 15.11.10 13:46:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • Ag BF, I merely pointed out that your example to Wes should not include “me”..

  • Comment 68, posted at 15.11.10 13:46:46 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • Habana needs to be dropped. TWB11 :roll: is a liability to his team!

  • Comment 69, posted at 15.11.10 13:48:01 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 67) : Thanks Forrest! :lol:

  • Comment 70, posted at 15.11.10 13:48:37 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 68) :

    Lets just agree to disagree shall we??

    You like Frans, I dont!!

    I do rate him though. Might not always seem to be the case but I do. ;-)

  • Comment 71, posted at 15.11.10 13:49:31 by wpw Reply
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  • Spies is playing better. But still does not make enough with the possesion he gets. Kanko, Alberts and Keegan and Duane and Johnson and…would be a better option.

    I don’t know how the commentators gave him man of the match!

  • Comment 72, posted at 15.11.10 13:49:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 71) : Fine Wes, but the fact that I like Steyn does not make me blind to his mistakes! You will see I did not once made a comment about his game…I am still to watch it! :lol: I just feel a player should not be attacked because one does not like him, that’s all…

  • Comment 73, posted at 15.11.10 13:53:26 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 73) :

    I need to bookmark this page the next time Ricky Januarie plays for the Boks!! :twisted:

    I agree with you regarding the attacking of players!! :|

  • Comment 74, posted at 15.11.10 13:57:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 70) : ice im with you totally on this one

    see sometimes people only see what they want to see

    again i dont think frans played great on saturday , but nor did any other backline player

    2 backline players of the starting 15 put their bodies on the line and that was F steyn and gio, even though both these players also made silly mistakes here and there

    but how i see it is where do those mistakes derive from??

    i mentioned slipped tackles before plus habana and jdv trying the stupid intercepts all the time caused havock to our defensive lines

  • Comment 75, posted at 15.11.10 13:57:16 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Wat gat hier aan?…julle gat aan soos soos n klomp skooldogtertjies :?: ;-)

  • Comment 76, posted at 15.11.10 14:00:10 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 76) : :lol:

  • Comment 77, posted at 15.11.10 14:01:26 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 76) : jaaaa, well…young at heart, not so young in other places! :lol:

  • Comment 78, posted at 15.11.10 14:06:18 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 78) : :lol:

  • Comment 79, posted at 15.11.10 14:06:53 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 74) : deal!! :lol:

  • Comment 80, posted at 15.11.10 14:07:20 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 43) : pot kettle??? always picking on fransie so we dont talk about the poor play of someone else you like ??? ;-) :lol:

    the diffs here boet is i look without the blinkers and i judge without prejudice

    this is why you why find me having sledged juanuary or rose of chili or whoever

    players do not choose themselves , players i believe and want to believe always give their best , even when they may fail to do so

    a good example is some people for example will say they didnt like freddy mercury as he was gay , do we judge him personally or his performance on the stage??????

  • Comment 81, posted at 15.11.10 14:15:15 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 81) : How can you use that example with a Province supporter?? It’s not entirely fair!! :lol:

  • Comment 82, posted at 15.11.10 14:21:09 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 82) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 83, posted at 15.11.10 14:22:05 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 43) : probably .. how many times he played for the boks this year ? :lol:

  • Comment 84, posted at 15.11.10 14:23:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 (Comment 82) : but you atleast agree on my way of thought re looking at a player :?: , well i know you aunties also look at the guys for other reasons :roll: :lol: but you know what i mean lol

  • Comment 85, posted at 15.11.10 14:24:37 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) : not at all – you just misread SL’s post ;-)

  • Comment 86, posted at 15.11.10 14:26:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 84) : :lol:

  • Comment 87, posted at 15.11.10 14:26:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • another thing i find is this, a player will do 15 great things, and because someone does not like him he does one thing wrong and they remember only that 1 wrong thing :shock:

  • Comment 88, posted at 15.11.10 14:28:41 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Chilliboy and Bjorn Basson being send home after a positive drugs test :shock:

  • Comment 89, posted at 15.11.10 14:29:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Does anyone have more info on the Mapoe saga? I heard smthg to the effect that the Lions are going to help the Cheetahs with money to fight the Sharks or something?

  • Comment 90, posted at 15.11.10 14:29:16 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 61) : it depends what we are after. If management of players for WC is a priority then give youngsters a go. If you are after them slam – then I’m sorry – 2 more games so let starting XV grind it.

    Though Habana could be dropped due to nonperformance, although there are no guarantees that newcomer Mvowo will perform good at this level.

  • Comment 91, posted at 15.11.10 14:30:17 by rekinek Reply
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  • OKKKK HERE IS SOME NEWS

    Bok duo fail dope test
    Edinburgh – Springboks Chiliboy Ralepelle and Bjorn Basson are returning home from South Africa’s tour of Britain and Ireland having returned positive samples for a banned stimulant following the Test against Ireland on November 6.

    Six Nations Rugby Ltd – who administers the November internationals – informed the South African Rugby Union of the positive Tests on Sunday evening.

    As a result the pair are provisionally suspended from all rugby and will return to South Africa on Monday.

    Basson injured an ankle in Saturday’s win over Wales and was due to return anyway.

    The players were randomly drawn for testing by anti-doping officials following the Test at the Aviva Stadium. The players have the right to request that their ‘B’ sample be tested.

    The pair returned an adverse analytical finding for methylhexaneamine, a “non-specified stimulant” on the prohibited substances list of the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA). It is scheduled to be re-classified as a “specified stimulant” from January 1, 2011.

  • Comment 92, posted at 15.11.10 14:31:17 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 89) : huh?

  • Comment 93, posted at 15.11.10 14:31:46 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 92) :

    a bit slow on the uptake there bru!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 94, posted at 15.11.10 14:34:03 by wpw Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 67) : one must take into consideration that we talk about 2 completely different games. One with the forward dominating and halfbacks having a ball (in both meanings :mrgreen: ) and in the other Welsh pretty much run the show and halfbacks were not as good as a week before.

  • Comment 95, posted at 15.11.10 14:35:21 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 86) :
    I’m not inclined to flog a dead horse today.

    @sharks_lover (Comment 92) :
    This is shocking!

  • Comment 96, posted at 15.11.10 14:37:01 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 74) : :mrgreen: but you still need to convince Ricky to have a decent game .

  • Comment 97, posted at 15.11.10 14:37:20 by rekinek Reply
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  • Well, I don’t know why they sending Chilli back, seems it did not help his game much anyway! :twisted:

  • Comment 98, posted at 15.11.10 14:40:10 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 89) : :shock:

    seriaaas or you trying to change subject

  • Comment 99, posted at 15.11.10 14:42:09 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 97) : :twisted:

  • Comment 100, posted at 15.11.10 14:42:19 by Ice-Cool CC Champ 2010 Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 92) : not good at all. embarrassment for SA rugby :sad:

  • Comment 101, posted at 15.11.10 14:44:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 96) : so much for the ankle injury story :roll:

  • Comment 102, posted at 15.11.10 14:46:14 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 96) : pity.

    I had so many ideas like:

    1. Buying a stronger whip.

    2. Changing riders.

    3. Appointing a committee to study the horse.

    4. Arranging to visit other countries to see how other cultures ride
    Horses.

    5. Lowering the standards so that dead horses can be included.

    6. Reclassifying the dead horse as living impaired.

    7. Hiring outside contractors to ride the dead horse.

    8. Harnessing several dead horses together to increase speed.

    9. Providing additional funding and/or training to increase the dead
    Horse’s performance.

    10. Doing a productivity study to see if lighter riders would
    improve the dead horse’s performance.

    11. Declaring that as the dead horse does not have to be fed, it is
    less costly, carries lower overhead and therefore contributes
    substantially more to the bottom line of the economy than live
    horses.

    12. Rewriting the expected performance requirements for all horses.
    And, of course…

    13. Promoting the dead horse to a supervisory position.

    ;-)

  • Comment 103, posted at 15.11.10 14:47:50 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 101) : true

  • Comment 104, posted at 15.11.10 14:50:19 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Do not drop habana against Scotland! All the guy wants is to break Joost;s record for the most tries so let him play against the Scots and let him score a try. Please dont drop him because he will always want that record. Besides the team knows where habana is falling short so they can cover for that but what if they get a new guy in there? You start from scratch. The Scots are the Iron and England is the Business day. We need to iron some creases out of the shirt before we go to our meeting:)

  • Comment 105, posted at 16.11.10 05:11:42 by Ozbok Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 72) : Deysel at 8!!!

  • Comment 106, posted at 16.11.10 05:13:39 by Ozbok Reply

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