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Next Mission: Super 15


Written by Jean-Jacques Rousseau (JJR)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 19 Nov 2010 at 10:15
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The Sharks next goal is to lift the new super 15 trophy. So let us see what our player stocks look like before this new and exciting season for The Sharks.

The Squads for the new Super 15 seem to be larger than last year, moving from 30 man to 40 man. Here is what i think our squad could look like. We don’t need to worry about depth and Young talent coming through…that is for sure.

*Can cover another position too/ ?-Contract

  1. Beast, Sabelo Nhlapo and Dale Chadwick
  2. Bissie, Burden and Cooper
  3. Jannie, Van Staden*  and Smit*and Herbst
  4. Sykes, Mossie* and Bresler
  5. Hargreaves and Skeate
  6. Keegan* and Botes
  7. Deysel , Willem*and Ojiambo*
  8. Kankowski
  9. Charl, Rory Kockott-? , Hoffman* and Cronje
  10. Lambie*, JLP* , Pretorius-? And Cronje
  11. Mvovo and JP
  12. Bosman*, Jenner*
  13. Jacobs*,Stef*, Vulindlu*, Lindeque and Mnisi*
  14. Odwa
  15. Ludik

Possible Inclusions:

Kene Okafor, Wynand Pienaar, Cobus Reinach, (Mark Richards and Sithole)- Likely to play for Sevens Bokke.

There might be a few guys i might have forgotten, but all in all it looks like we will have a really strong squad and a good mix of youth and experience too. I have no doubt that if we keep doing the hard work in the gym, on the field and off the field we stand a great chance of getting our hands on a title we greatly deserve. Go Sharks!!!



69 Comments

  • Is there any clarity on Downey yet?

  • Comment 1, posted at 19.11.10 10:28:33 by SharksRTB Reply
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  • @SharksRTB (Comment 1) : going to Griquas… 99% certain

  • Comment 2, posted at 19.11.10 10:54:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • What is going on with AP and Rory.
    @ robdylan can’t Ojiambo become a 13.

  • Comment 3, posted at 19.11.10 11:18:39 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 3) : I’ve heard they’re not happy with his skills as a backline player

  • Comment 4, posted at 19.11.10 11:37:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 3) : I’m also told AP has not been contracted for the S15

  • Comment 5, posted at 19.11.10 11:37:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) :

    Now watch WP offer him a contract!! :evil: :???:

  • Comment 6, posted at 19.11.10 11:39:42 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Rob , any news on Swannie ? I bumped into him the week after the final and he said his contract ends at end Dec and that he would like to stay but had not heard anything ?

  • Comment 7, posted at 19.11.10 11:40:38 by King Deysel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 5) : Would think with Lambo, JLP and Bosman able to cover 10, the services of Pretoors will not be needed at all. Send him to the Lions!

  • Comment 8, posted at 19.11.10 11:44:15 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • Any news on jacques engelbrecht (swd eagles )?

  • Comment 9, posted at 19.11.10 11:47:37 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Sportbilly (Comment 8) : Lions wont look twice , they have Jantjies and Burton Francis . Send him back to the Force !!

  • Comment 10, posted at 19.11.10 11:49:00 by King Deysel Reply
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  • Can’t see the cronje twins step-up to the required level of s15 next year

  • Comment 11, posted at 19.11.10 11:49:35 by bergshark Reply

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  • Roll on Super 15 – What news on Rory regarding super 15?

  • Comment 12, posted at 19.11.10 11:50:23 by Ardent Shark Reply

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  • @King Deysel (Comment 7) : Swannie has been offered a contract, I believe, but only for Vodacom Cup. Not what he wants, but I think he’s gonna stick it out and try play himself back into contention. Watch out for a Swannie/Trompie combination in the Vodacom Cup… Rovers combo

  • Comment 13, posted at 19.11.10 11:50:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ardent Shark (Comment 12) : none – but I promise you (and the 400 others who ask every day) that we will not sit on any news regarding Rory. When we know what’s happening, there will be an article. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 19.11.10 11:51:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : He might just make a call to Dries and get a few tips ! He can tackle , just needs to find a bit of pace and flair to go with it . Still maintain he has what it takes , he just needs a bit of work .

  • Comment 15, posted at 19.11.10 11:55:04 by King Deysel Reply
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  • Which means rory is a def must for next season ..we will need 3 good (and proven at that level,incase my fellow bloggers start pointing out rory’s up and down form this year ..) .don’t know ANYTHING of hoffman at sh,so keeping the fiesty kockott at the tank is for me a high priority ..hopefully he stays and works on his passing skills,which at times (most times this year,unfortunately),was not up to varsity cup level :-(

  • Comment 16, posted at 19.11.10 11:56:27 by bergshark Reply

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  • Any players to be drafted into pre season training camp (outside of the sharks union?)

  • Comment 17, posted at 19.11.10 12:00:05 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 17) : Sabastian Chabal . . Rene Ranger . . . . . ANYONE?

  • Comment 18, posted at 19.11.10 12:03:53 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Glad swannie is staying( albeit reportedly saw ).. his skills need some upgrading but I think the swannie 2.0 version will be a fab player..shouldn’t lose heart and just keep training hard

  • Comment 19, posted at 19.11.10 12:05:01 by bergshark Reply

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  • @ Original Champion: within budget constraints lol.. Was thinking of someone in the b section or u21s of other unions..only for s15

  • Comment 20, posted at 19.11.10 12:08:36 by bergshark Reply

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  • Okay I admit I`ve been out of the loop these past couple of weeks.

    But what happened to Herbs ( spelling? ) the prop forward?

    Who is the Jenner bracketed for 12?

    Of course I would love it if we could move Stef back to 15 hehehe

  • Comment 21, posted at 19.11.10 12:12:25 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 20) : Norman Nelson then!

    Yes we`ve got 3 top class wings ( all of them bokke come to think of it! ) but the Super 15 will only demand more depth and we`ve never even won a super 14 . . .

  • Comment 22, posted at 19.11.10 12:14:04 by Original Champion Reply
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  • How is norman nelson’s D?

  • Comment 23, posted at 19.11.10 12:20:54 by bergshark Reply

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  • MARK RICHARDS
    Mark warmed up with the Sharks before the C/Cup final, so he must be fairly close to breaking into the squad. Hopefully they test him out in the S15 pre-season games and make an assessment of his readiness for superrugby from there. Having seen the impact that quick off the mark players like Foden, Beale and Halfpenny have made at international level indicates that Mark’s size shouldn’t be the factor stopping him from being selected.

  • Comment 24, posted at 19.11.10 12:21:34 by beet Reply

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  • Norman nelson does look really dangerous on attack..good call ,let’s hope the sharks send him an invite

  • Comment 25, posted at 19.11.10 12:24:27 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 24) : well, he’s about the same size as Aplon anyway!

  • Comment 26, posted at 19.11.10 12:31:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • Main concern for me would be at loosehead, lock (depth), and wing.

    Otherwise looks pretty good.

  • Comment 27, posted at 19.11.10 12:32:31 by Morné Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 23) : Like Rob said, he`s on a par with Aplon size wise . .
    So lets take a partial leave out of wp`s playbook.
    Play Nelson till we reach the final then bring a well rested dependable Odwa on to win the cup!

  • Comment 28, posted at 19.11.10 12:34:55 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Scrumhalf is a problem until rory signs..

  • Comment 29, posted at 19.11.10 12:37:42 by bergshark Reply

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  • I’m not a fan of either cronje twin yet..

  • Comment 30, posted at 19.11.10 12:39:00 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 27) : van Staden can cover loosehead and so can Smit…I’m not too worried there.

  • Comment 31, posted at 19.11.10 12:40:14 by Pokkel Reply
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  • De wet barry for a try-out? Anyone agree? … Anyone? .. ;_)

  • Comment 32, posted at 19.11.10 12:40:58 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 32) : I think it`s a confident NO THANK YOU :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 19.11.10 12:42:15 by Original Champion Reply
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  • I rate de wet’s D game,though..

  • Comment 34, posted at 19.11.10 12:42:23 by bergshark Reply

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  • Don’t you love it when you think it’s Thursday…and then find out it’s Friday! :grin:

  • Comment 35, posted at 19.11.10 12:43:31 by klempie Reply

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  • But it was all meant a bit tongue-in-cheek :-) ..I was calling for dewet to be drafted into sharks s14 squad ay beginning of season based on what we had going on in the backline..wanted a strong tackling inside back

  • Comment 36, posted at 19.11.10 12:45:57 by bergshark Reply

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  • Nice,klempie

  • Comment 37, posted at 19.11.10 12:47:05 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 31) : Yip and in Sykes, Mostert, Skeate, Hargreaves and Bressler lock should be just fine.

  • Comment 38, posted at 19.11.10 12:54:56 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • Who is Gavin Hauptfleisch and haven`t we got enough flyhalves?

  • Comment 39, posted at 19.11.10 13:03:13 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) :

    I thought there was absolutely no truth to that rumour?

  • Comment 40, posted at 19.11.10 13:12:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 39) : WP Craven Week flyhalf recently DHL’ed to the Sharks Academy. Thanks boys. Good player by all accounts.

  • Comment 41, posted at 19.11.10 13:12:05 by Sportbilly Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 39) : Paarl Boys High flyhalf. He’s going to be under 19 next year, so a long way from senior rugby.

  • Comment 42, posted at 19.11.10 13:14:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : ummm, hang on.

    There was no truth to the reports that stated as a fact that he had already signed with Griquas a month ago. He has not yet signed.

  • Comment 43, posted at 19.11.10 13:14:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Original Champion (Comment 39) : …and with easier surnames to pronounce.

  • Comment 44, posted at 19.11.10 13:19:56 by klempie Reply

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  • @Sportbilly (Comment 8) :

    not thanx we have jantjies now :P

  • Comment 45, posted at 19.11.10 13:29:10 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : Wies Trompie?

  • Comment 46, posted at 19.11.10 13:31:30 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 46) : Jerome Pretorius… the oke who cut Maties to shreds in the club champs final.

  • Comment 47, posted at 19.11.10 13:33:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 30) : I believe Ross can do it at the top level…have serious doubts if Guy can…

  • Comment 48, posted at 19.11.10 13:33:24 by JJR Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : Oh cool…just didn’t know the nickname…thanks Rob

  • Comment 49, posted at 19.11.10 13:34:09 by JJR Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : Who played 6 and 8 for Rovers in the final of the SAA CChamps? I liked i think the 6, was solid…oke with the beard. Good on crash, strong and gets his hands dirty.

  • Comment 50, posted at 19.11.10 13:41:19 by JJR Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 42) : Good so I have a few years to work on pronounciation!

  • Comment 51, posted at 19.11.10 13:46:50 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 50) : Kosie Haarhof

  • Comment 52, posted at 19.11.10 13:47:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 50) : 8 was Eric Ngoie

  • Comment 53, posted at 19.11.10 13:48:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Can never have enough good fhalves..

  • Comment 54, posted at 19.11.10 13:54:03 by bergshark Reply

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  • Still at Rovers?

  • Comment 55, posted at 19.11.10 13:55:58 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 55) : as far as I know

  • Comment 56, posted at 19.11.10 14:07:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 54) : we used to think that about inside centres… look how many we lost as a result

  • Comment 57, posted at 19.11.10 14:12:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • With all that talent, we should put up a really good showing in the super15.

  • Comment 58, posted at 19.11.10 14:17:38 by Bump Reply

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  • What is the situation with Steve Meyer?

  • Comment 59, posted at 19.11.10 18:48:04 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • I suppose Stef, Lambie and Odwa will be the cover for Ludik at fullback. The only problem is that wing could become a bigger problem area (if Odwa had to move) and we may not want to move Lambie again. Moving Stef: Centre could also then be a bigger problem especially if we do not bring in the youngsters early enough.

  • Comment 60, posted at 19.11.10 18:56:39 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • So who will be the sixth loose forward? How sure are we it will be Ojiambo?

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.11.10 19:01:46 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • @Sportbilly (Comment 38) : I agree. Lock is not a concern for me at this time. In addition Willem can also be utilised as lock if need be.

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.11.10 19:05:19 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • To summarise my thoughts at this stage:

    Forwards
    Prop: If Smit is not utilised as a prop (or available for selection there) we could be a bit thin here. Van Staden’s versatility and youngsters performances is vitally important here.
    Hooker: Fine
    Lock: Fine
    Loose forward: Need that 6th one confirmed but have 5 very good loose forwards already on books here

    Backs:
    Scrumhalf: Will feel alot better if we retain Rory.
    Rest of backline: As touched on in comment 60 I feel the versatile players covering various positions here could cause problems in one area to overflow into others. In addition we could be in a situation where an injury during the game forces us to move someone starting in another position to swop. Bringing in youngsters will be crucial. Also specific question marks over wing, outside centre (especially with Stef covering 15 as well) and youngsters not being given opportunities in Curry Cup here and fullback in the sense as stated in comment 60.

    Coaching Staff, Professionalism, Spirit: It’s all good!

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.11.10 19:32:07 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • I know JLP moved to the Sharks primarily to get more game time in the nr 10 jersey. Lambie’s recent rise however does put a spanner in the works. I was looking at the article and wondering how good an outside centre JLP will be. I am just considering a 10-12-13 combo of Lambie, Bosman and JLP (not necessarily as forst choice). What do you guys think? And if centres switch? Lets say for arguments sake JLP has to choose between on the bench for 10 or starting at centre… There are obviously various factors to consider here e.g. other flyhalves and centres in squad

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.11.10 19:44:06 by Rooiwillie Reply

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  • Meyer will not play super 15

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.11.10 20:38:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • Interesting idea and I actually think there some merit in that combo..jlp is a tenacious defender and handles the ball well..plus,did he not come on as sub for j pretorius (outside centre) to score match-winning try vs sharks @loftus in this year’s s14?

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.11.10 20:40:50 by bergshark Reply

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  • @robdylan: steve meyer?

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.11.10 20:43:52 by bergshark Reply

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  • Not sure about Smit at prop. He is a hooker and will go to the World Cup as one.

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.11.10 20:57:11 by lostfish Reply
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  • Rob, are the positions named in pecking order?

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.11.10 14:02:54 by s.h.a.r.k.s Reply

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