Richard Ferguson

Barbarians v The Springboks


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 4 Dec 2010 at 14:00
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The Springboks wrap up their tour of the British Isles this afternoon against a team of mostly Southern Hemisphere Barbarians, with absolutely no pressure of Grand Slams or coaching staff on the brink of getting the boot, and as a result one would expect a great game of rugby.

The reality of the match is that these guys have all, bar 2 Northern hemisphere blokes who managed to get out of their club commitments, have played each other time and again, either during the Super 14 or during the Tri Nations, and most of the players will be looking forward to the trip home to take a form of break.

The excitement of a young flyhalf for the South Africans was by and large extinguished on Wednesday when Elton Jantjies was named as the flyhalf, with the incumbent and much anticipated Pat Lambie filling the 15 jersey. My opinion on this does not really matter, but a feeling of getting behind the team on this should trump all others. There will either be a few ‘I told you so’ or ‘apologies’ come 19h00 tonight.

The Barbarians celebrate their 120th year of existence and play the Springboks for the 7th time and the main aim for them is go out and have some fun, even though the concept has taken a back seat in the professional era. One would have loved to see a mixed bag of players, but as a result of clubs and other tournaments on the go, this will probably never be a reality.

My prediction for this game is that, weather permitting, the Barbarians will run at the Bok backline with everything they have, and will make for some wonderful entertainment. We can only hope the Boks can match them in all areas.

The teams:

Barbarians: 15 James O’Connor, 14 Joe Rokocoko, 13 Adam Ashley-Cooper, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Drew Mitchell, 10 Matt Giteau (captain), 9 Will Genia, 8 Colin Bourke, 7 Martyn Williams, 6 Rodney So’oialo, 5 Chris Jack, 4 Anton van Zyl, 3 Neemia Tialata, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Salvatore Perugini.

Replacements: 16 Keven Mealamu, 17 John Yapp, 18 Quintin Geldenhuys, 19 Daniel Braid, 20 Andy Ellis, 21 Stephen Donald, 22 Seru Rabini.

South Africa: 15 Patrick Lambie, 14 Odwa Ndungane, 13 Adi Jacobs, 12 Andries Strauss, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 François Hougaard, 8 Ryan Kankowski, 7 Juan Smith (captain), 6 Willem Alberts, 5 Alistair Hargreaves, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 CJ van der Linde, 2 Adriaan Strauss, 1 Coenie Oosthuizen.

Replacements: 16 Bandise Maku, 17 Tendai Mtawarira, 18 Werner Kruger, 19 Flip van der Merwe, 20 Keegan Daniel, 21 Charl McLeod, 22 Gio Aplon.

Date: Saturday, 4 December
Kick-off: 14.30 (14.30 GMT; 16.30 SA time)
Venue: Twickenham, London
Expected weather: There is a 20 percent chance of snow, a high of 5°C (windchill: -3°C), dropping to-2°C, and a southwester of 14 km/h
Referee: Pascal Gauzere (France)
Assistant referees: Christophe Berdos (France), Peter Allan (Scotland)



137 Comments

  • GO BOKKE !!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.12.10 14:13:05 by Charlie Reply
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  • Well should be an interesting match, the young guys in the bok team don’t have the intensity and experience the Barbarians have in their side, but i am hoping to see some down right hunger from these young guys and give the BaaBaa’s a good run for their money.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.12.10 14:13:35 by G West Reply
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  • damn Charlie… 30seconds! haha

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.12.10 14:15:21 by G West Reply
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  • I am Legend !

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.12.10 14:45:15 by Charlie Reply

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  • Sheeeeep Rams vs Springboks – Although we play like a Ram and they play like a springbok . Weird huh?

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.12.10 14:53:36 by Mocho Reply

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  • Go boks(sharks)!

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.12.10 15:31:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 4) :
    :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.12.10 15:33:31 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I picked Barbarians by 27 :oops:

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.12.10 16:02:56 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Anyone know if this game is being streamed live on the internet?

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.12.10 16:06:59 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Go Bokke

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.12.10 16:17:36 by Puma Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 9) : not the greatest but it is in English.
    http://www.chavster.org/

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.12.10 16:26:16 by lostfish Reply
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  • Bokke by 10, off to play now !!!

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.12.10 16:31:51 by Charlie Reply

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  • try baa baas

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.12.10 16:39:00 by lostfish Reply
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  • o’connor pushes the conversion wide

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.12.10 16:40:27 by lostfish Reply
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  • baa baas 5 – boks 0

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.12.10 16:40:47 by lostfish Reply
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  • penalty to the boks, going to for the posts

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.12.10 16:41:54 by lostfish Reply
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  • baa baas 5 – 3 boks

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.12.10 16:42:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • If the Boks win, it will be because of the 10 amazing Sharks in the squad, if we lose it will be the 5 stupid Bulls’ fault :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.12.10 16:45:35 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 16) : @lostfish (Comment 13) : Will be nice if you could give us their names :wink:

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.12.10 16:47:14 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • hehe I am lazy

    try was scored by drew mitchell for the baa baas

    penalty was kicked by jantjies

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.12.10 16:48:35 by lostfish Reply
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  • Go Sharks!! :razz:

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.12.10 16:48:53 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • try by o’connor for the baa baas

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.12.10 16:49:13 by lostfish Reply
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  • bok defence very gappy

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.12.10 16:50:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 20) : Looking for possible FL candidates for next year :grin:

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.12.10 16:50:20 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • o’conner with the conversion

    baa baas 12 – 3 boks

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.12.10 16:50:55 by lostfish Reply
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  • penalty to the boks after the restart the crowd is booing the decision to kick for the posts

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.12.10 16:52:19 by lostfish Reply
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  • jantjies taking forever to set up the ball and as he steps up it falls over and the ref tells him 10 seconds. he resets and kicks quickly but misses

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.12.10 16:53:30 by lostfish Reply
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  • adi finding gaps in the baa baas defence but is turned over, drew mitchell scores his second try

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.12.10 16:54:52 by lostfish Reply
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  • Are we being murdered? On my phone so no TV. :(

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.12.10 16:55:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • o’connor nails the conversion

    baa baas 19 – 3 boks

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.12.10 16:56:02 by lostfish Reply
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  • seems my 27 point margin is goin to be too small :sad:

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.12.10 16:57:18 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : 22 minutes gone
    baa baas scored 3 tries, boks have hardly had their hands on the ball
    carnage at the moment

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.12.10 16:57:24 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 29) : That’s putting it softly :razz:

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.12.10 16:58:23 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 31) : I was being kind to SA and gave the baa baas a 9 point margin

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.12.10 16:58:24 by lostfish Reply
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  • boks holding a few passes together near the tryline and knock on 5m out

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.12.10 17:01:46 by lostfish Reply
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  • when the boks get the ball they are either turned over or knock on

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.12.10 17:03:26 by lostfish Reply
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  • Nothing interesting happening?

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.12.10 17:09:28 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • o’connor misses a very kickable penalty

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.12.10 17:13:27 by lostfish Reply
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  • Holy cow are the Boks being shown up for the ponderous unimaginative bunch they are. Dick Muir gets paid to coach the backs??

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.12.10 17:13:32 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • I hope Mcleod and Daniel get a decent run today. Alberts should move to 7, and Daniel to 6 with Smith taking a shower or something.

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.12.10 17:13:40 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 37) : not really, anytime the boks look like getting anywhere they get turned over or knock on

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.12.10 17:14:15 by lostfish Reply
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  • Aweful turnovers killing the Boks.

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.12.10 17:14:47 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • thank goodness – half time

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.12.10 17:16:04 by lostfish Reply
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  • If only Bizzie was there aswell.

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.12.10 17:16:31 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Well, with the springbok try scoring abilities, this game is virtually over as a contest… O’Connor kindly providing a sniff of hope for us. The second half had better be 100% better

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.12.10 17:16:40 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 44) : strauss is actually one of the better players on the field, had a couple of good runs

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.12.10 17:18:28 by lostfish Reply
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  • Watching this game, all of Andries Strausses limitations have been firmly highlighted. He is great in defense against other ponderous SA backs, but against a team with some pace, he has been shown up. The other Strauss lineout throws have been pretty poor too, and are Hargreaves or Coenie on the field?

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.12.10 17:19:52 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 46) : Except he cant seem to throw at the moment, which kinda kills momentum

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.12.10 17:20:29 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 48) : true

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.12.10 17:23:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • We all know that the Cheetahs cant play rugby :twisted:

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.12.10 17:26:35 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Game on!!

    Go Bokke!!

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.12.10 17:29:07 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Any halftime subs??

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.12.10 17:30:36 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • odwa gets an intercept and try!

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.12.10 17:31:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • and the carthorse springs us back into the game. What a man!! Boks most dangerous when the other team has the ball.

  • Comment 54, posted at 04.12.10 17:31:04 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Yes!! Coenie goes off!

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.12.10 17:32:33 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Sharks try!! :razz:

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.12.10 17:32:52 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 55) : CJ shouldve gone off 1st

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.12.10 17:33:47 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Great work Kanko on OConnor

  • Comment 58, posted at 04.12.10 17:34:55 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • and then he coughs up the pill…

  • Comment 59, posted at 04.12.10 17:35:48 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 57) : Ok, thats probably true too

  • Comment 60, posted at 04.12.10 17:36:21 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • The ref’s a plonker :roll:

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.12.10 17:36:24 by Charlie Reply

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  • WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont we WANT to catch the ball!!!!

  • Comment 62, posted at 04.12.10 17:38:03 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • odwa knocks on, again

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.12.10 17:39:00 by lostfish Reply
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  • So our Sevens are playing the Aussies in the plate final. Go Blitzies!!

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.12.10 17:39:11 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • BEAST is destroying the scrum!!

  • Comment 65, posted at 04.12.10 17:39:34 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 62) : lambie made a rather good catch

  • Comment 66, posted at 04.12.10 17:39:42 by lostfish Reply
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  • did flip and beast forget it is December…

  • Comment 67, posted at 04.12.10 17:40:36 by lostfish Reply
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  • Thats the third time they have turned over the ball illegally. We are playing shite, but the ref doesnt help with calls like that

  • Comment 68, posted at 04.12.10 17:41:41 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • I hope none of the Sharks get broken… we need them for the S15

  • Comment 69, posted at 04.12.10 17:42:54 by lostfish Reply
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  • Is Daniel and Mcleod on yet??

  • Comment 70, posted at 04.12.10 17:43:48 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Kanko off and Keegs comes on

  • Comment 71, posted at 04.12.10 17:43:51 by lostfish Reply
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  • penalty to the boks for tackler not releasing

  • Comment 72, posted at 04.12.10 17:44:44 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 71) : @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 70) : :twisted: :razz:

  • Comment 73, posted at 04.12.10 17:44:46 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Jantjies going for posts

  • Comment 74, posted at 04.12.10 17:45:09 by lostfish Reply
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  • Ok, time for Jantjies to go too.

  • Comment 75, posted at 04.12.10 17:45:23 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • and Jantjies misses

  • Comment 76, posted at 04.12.10 17:45:29 by lostfish Reply
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  • About 20mins remaining.

  • Comment 77, posted at 04.12.10 17:47:27 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • And the knock forward!!!!!

  • Comment 78, posted at 04.12.10 17:50:20 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • try baa baas!

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.12.10 17:51:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • Well, thats probably the game.. now I guess just pride. would be nice to score a try that isnt just an intercept

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.12.10 17:51:25 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Jantjies tries to stop Tialata and Tialata brushes him off back onto his ass

  • Comment 81, posted at 04.12.10 17:52:06 by lostfish Reply
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  • baa baas 26 – 10 boks

  • Comment 82, posted at 04.12.10 17:52:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • Macleod on now

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.12.10 17:53:02 by lostfish Reply
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  • I’d love to know who paid off this coprolite French ref who is missing a reasonably good game!!!

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.12.10 17:53:13 by Big Fish Reply
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  • This game is an appalling advertisement for Bok rugby. We are simply clueless

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.12.10 17:55:13 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Go Bokkies!!

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.12.10 17:56:03 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 86) : Home?

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.12.10 17:57:29 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 87) : :twisted:

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.12.10 17:58:34 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • A 16 point margin is not bad considering :oops:

  • Comment 89, posted at 04.12.10 18:00:26 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Finally. Bakkies made it look hard though

  • Comment 90, posted at 04.12.10 18:00:44 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • try bakkies

  • Comment 91, posted at 04.12.10 18:01:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • Jantjies misses the conversion

  • Comment 92, posted at 04.12.10 18:01:51 by lostfish Reply
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  • And oh look at that, Jantjies misses the kick.

  • Comment 93, posted at 04.12.10 18:01:54 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 89) : 11 points :???:

  • Comment 94, posted at 04.12.10 18:03:53 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Damn stupid Bulls, cant even win a game if you paid them :twisted: :wink:

  • Comment 95, posted at 04.12.10 18:07:52 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • This has been an awful game to watch

  • Comment 96, posted at 04.12.10 18:09:58 by lostfish Reply
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  • Lesson to be learned here. Lambie should have started at 10 with Charl 9. The ref should be strangled as should the next player who knocks on

  • Comment 97, posted at 04.12.10 18:10:35 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Why does the last 2 minutes of a game always take 10 minutes :evil:

  • Comment 98, posted at 04.12.10 18:11:15 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 96) : agreed

  • Comment 99, posted at 04.12.10 18:11:26 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Too late, times up

  • Comment 100, posted at 04.12.10 18:12:12 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • maku try

  • Comment 101, posted at 04.12.10 18:12:29 by lostfish Reply
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  • I think that a World Cup Fantasy League competition could work :idea:

  • Comment 102, posted at 04.12.10 18:13:14 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • So basically can we say Jantjies poor kicking cost us the game

  • Comment 103, posted at 04.12.10 18:13:19 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 99) : this game has made me glad I don’t have to watch the boks play again for a good few months

  • Comment 104, posted at 04.12.10 18:14:00 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 97) :
    Agreed.

    Lambie looked much more settled and effective, but I have no issue with Jantjies being given his chance.

    We didn’t do badly, considering that the team was largely made up of the guys who didn’t get to play: I’m not disappointed with the result really.

    The ref should be taken out and hanged – wouldn’t waste bullets on that idiot.

  • Comment 105, posted at 04.12.10 18:16:15 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 97) : But we all knew that from the start. The score flattered the Boks.

  • Comment 106, posted at 04.12.10 18:16:54 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Agreed. I still cant understand how Dick Muir is justifying his salary right now. The backs are ponderous and unimaginative. Only when Lambie moved to 10 did we look like we anything going. We cant always win with the forwards.

  • Comment 107, posted at 04.12.10 18:17:13 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Fulltime
    Baabaas 26 – 20 Boks
    Margin – 6

  • Comment 108, posted at 04.12.10 18:18:06 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 105) : As a sharks fan Im probably biased, but Lambie is more mature than Jantjies. The latter didnt look up to the speed of the game. Maybe he should have been left to get more experience than just a currie cup campaign, although to put it in perspective, it was a barbarians game, so there was no real pressure which I guess would support your comment

  • Comment 109, posted at 04.12.10 18:19:40 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Bring on the Super 15 :!: :!:
    Go Sharks :!: :!:

  • Comment 110, posted at 04.12.10 18:20:15 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 106) : Yes it did. Although they played a lot of rugby in the second half. When you go down 19-3 you are always a little screwed, especially when you dont trust your backline to rip the other team apart. You cant come from 16 points back using the maul from your own try line.

  • Comment 111, posted at 04.12.10 18:21:36 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Keep in mind that this was a strong Barbarian side guys. It couldve been worse.

  • Comment 112, posted at 04.12.10 18:22:03 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 111) : Sure, but some things just didn´t make any sense. With about 6 mins to go we took our time walking to lineouts, doing the pick-and-drive, etc. as if we were leading by 12 and the ones winding down the clock. WTF???

  • Comment 113, posted at 04.12.10 18:28:04 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Superbru Final standings:
    1. Molly
    2. Bladeza
    3. Rqd2
    4. Maverick
    5. Superviv
    6. Rekinek
    7. Sharkingmad
    8. Mbaysharks
    9. Mb1810
    10. Wpw

  • Comment 114, posted at 04.12.10 18:28:56 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 113) : True story. I dont think the passion was there.

  • Comment 115, posted at 04.12.10 18:39:18 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • At least we won a plate in Dubai. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 116, posted at 04.12.10 18:41:19 by McLovin Reply

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  • Eng v Samoa in the Cup final.

    Eng playing in marmalade coloured outfits for some reason.

  • Comment 117, posted at 04.12.10 18:42:20 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 112) :
    Don’t you know perspective is out of fashion nowadays? :twisted:

  • Comment 118, posted at 04.12.10 18:42:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I think we learnt a lot from this game. Lets start by getting my Sharks bias out of the way:
    - The Sharks team would have beaten this BaaBaas side.
    - Overall the Sharks players were the only ones there that seem to have answers on how to take on the BaaBaas

    Other observations:
    - It’s great that Elton was given a start at flyhalf. We now know who’s the more mature between Elton and Pat at this stage in their careers. Elton didn’t play terribly but Pat has the upper hand for the time being.
    - There is a case to be made for McLeod at scrumhalf. Don’t know if he’s better than Hougaard but has an ability to get a backline going.
    - The Springbok management continue using their reserves in retarded ways. Daniels should have replaced either Smith or Alberts. Kankowski was playing really well.
    - A good kicker can still be the difference between the Springboks winning and losing based on the way they’re playing.

  • Comment 119, posted at 04.12.10 18:53:08 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 118) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 120, posted at 04.12.10 18:57:18 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Half Time

    Samoa 14-12 Eng

  • Comment 121, posted at 04.12.10 18:59:41 by McLovin Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 119) : The Sharks team would have beaten this BaaBaas side.

    Really? You must be making a killing with that crystal ball of yours. :roll:

  • Comment 122, posted at 04.12.10 19:01:17 by McLovin Reply

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  • When does the 2nd round of FAN questions start?

  • Comment 123, posted at 04.12.10 19:09:20 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Eng take it.

    Final Score

    Eng 29-21 Samoa

  • Comment 124, posted at 04.12.10 19:14:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 122) : Without a doubt, same goes for the S14 Bulls team.

    Can’t blame them though, only having a weak to prepare.

  • Comment 125, posted at 04.12.10 20:41:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • There was a point about half way through the second half where Lambie started injecting himself into the proceedings in a much more aggressive manner. He started taking the ball at first receiver even though EJ was still on the field. Prior to this, the only times that Lambie had taken the ball at first receiver was to kick. I really thought this was where the Boks started looking much more fluid. McLeod was providing his usual snappy service and Lambie was taking the ball at first receiver, much flatter than EJ had all match.

    Now the question for all my fellow Sharksworld bloggers is, was this a tactical decision by Juan Smith or PdV or did Lambie just get frustrated and tired of what was going on in front of him so decided to take matters into his own hand.

    I watched McLeod, and he really is a superb scrumhalf. Not only is his service from the base very snappy, but he gets to the breakdown quicker than all the other SA 9s. This allows for much quicker ball. All of a sudden we see the ball going to the first receiver almost before the ruck is formed He is also awesome with his decision making, seeming to always find the right first receiver. And with all this, he showed also that his boot is quite strong as well. I’m not just saying this from a Sharks bias, but to be honest, he seems to do those tasks that are most imprtant for a 9 to do, and he does them very well. A quality scrumhalf without a doubt.

  • Comment 126, posted at 05.12.10 07:07:19 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 126) :
    I couldn’t agree more with you on the points you made on McLeod, i though Hougaard was inconsistent during most of the match and didn’t really seem to figure out if he wants to play a fast or slow game. The game from the boks side flowed a lot more and the ball actually got spread a lot faster once McLeod game on to the field. Another thing that i picked up on was that Hougaard seemed a bit shaky behind the ruck and his service wasn’t always clean, which i believe contributed to some of the bad handle in the game.

    Another point i would like to make is that EJ is definitely not ready for international rugby, and was completely out of his league against MG. I do believe that the game could have gone a different way if Lambie started at 10 with McLeod at 9.

    The first half of the game seemed like the same old boring Bok blueprint rugby, and they (the boks) where shown-up again by a more aggressive attacking side. Maybe it’s time for the Bok players to take matters into their own hands a bit on the field, because the coaches obviously still have no idea what they are trying to do.

  • Comment 127, posted at 05.12.10 09:46:23 by G West Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 126) : Agree with McLeod, he was superb when he came on. Fast crisp service I thought. Really impressed me seeing he had not played a games since the CC. Seemed to gel straight in. Should have been on this tour from the start. After that showing think he could be our back up to FdP not Ruan or Hougaard. McLeod should have been brought on sooner rather than later. Also Lambie should have been shifted to fh sooner.
    I would have moved Hougaard to outside centre or on the wing earlier yesteray.

  • Comment 128, posted at 05.12.10 10:34:06 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 128) : This is how they should have started in the first place:

    McLeod
    Lambie
    Mvovo
    Strauss
    Jacobs
    Hougaard
    Aplon

    A lot can be learned from watching the highlights of the Tonga vs French Baabaas on 26 November. Tonga was 27-9 down and made a great comeback against a star-studded Frenchy side:

  • Comment 129, posted at 05.12.10 11:07:13 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 129) : Yes agree, I had that line up last week too, except never had Strauss cause at that time never knew he was going over. To start I had McLeod, Lambie Mvovo, Adi, Hougaard, Odwa and Aplon.

    We really should have started with Mcleod and Lambie seeing they played most of the CC in those positions. They gelled well together yesterday too. Pity PdV missed something there.

    Then would have had Janjties coming from the bench. He also needed to play being on tour the whole 4 weeks. Felt for him yesterday missing those kicks, just knew the Bok supporters were going to be ruthless. Shame we behave like that towards our younger players. He will also get better after the S15. But yesterday Lambie should have started.

  • Comment 130, posted at 05.12.10 11:47:24 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 130) : I agree we are ruthless to the detriment of young players, but I sometimes think the worst enemies of promising youngsters, like Jantjies and Lambie, are the very people employed to develop them.

    But rugby is about combinations. People are making out as if this was just another Baabaas game – it wasn´t. It was a Baabaas game full of Kiwis and Aussies the year before the RWC, so an opportunity to test established, form combos like McLeod and Lambie, against the likes of Giteau, Nonu and Genia.

    I also felt for Jantjies when I missed those kicks. He looked very nervous all game long and the pressure he must have put on himself probably had an effect on his overall performance as well.

    The kicking on this tour was generally poor, including the Steyns and Lambie, so Jantjies was in good company ;-)

  • Comment 131, posted at 05.12.10 12:29:52 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Well thats the end of the rugby for a while and agree we could of won the BaaBaa’s if we didn’t make so much mistakes and had woken up before the 2nd half

    but good work for the baabaa’s and chaz didn’t get her 1st honour but will try next year 4th place is nt so bad

  • Comment 132, posted at 05.12.10 16:39:02 by chaz Reply

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  • I thought Lambe went to 1st receiver after EJ whent off and Aplon came on?

    Either way, poor show by the Boks. I was at the game, and people really were not happy about Smith deciding to keep going for posts in a BaaBaas match too. In hindsight, if they had kicked for touch and scored only one of the missed penalties, we would have wont he game by a point.

    Poor strategy, poor performance. :evil:

  • Comment 133, posted at 06.12.10 11:38:01 by Nhumrod Reply

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  • Yeah, looking back at the game I have to admit I over estimated Adi Jacobs.

    For some reason I thought his defense improved but he was a liability for us on saturday.

    This makes me even more worried about next year. We`re stretched at 13 already and Adi just played himself out of contention.

    Wonder how Lindeque defends?

  • Comment 134, posted at 06.12.10 11:46:47 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @Original Champion (Comment 134) : I wonder if Adi’s match fit? That would also have contributed to his defense (or lack thereof).

  • Comment 135, posted at 06.12.10 12:36:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Just another example of a Boks match lost in the top two inches.

    Poor strategy, poor execution but even worse was poor option-taking.

  • Comment 136, posted at 06.12.10 15:47:16 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 135) :

    Poor technique.

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