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Super Rugby explained (and updated)


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Super Rugby on 6 Jan 2011 at 15:03
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During the process of building an automated log for the new Super Rugby competition, I’ve been forced to dig into it and understand (for the first time) how it will actually work. Properly! Read on if you are still confused.

The first thing that is perhaps a little misleading is all this talk of “conferences”. Even though the competition has, on the surface, been split into three separate conferences, it will still work in much the same way when it comes to the log and determining who goes through to the extended knock-out round. The logs that are displayed on this site, as well as elsewhere, will, mainly for convenience, be split into three individual conferences. That is not to say that there will be three individual logs, or anything. Each team continues to accumulate log points – that is, points gained against teams both in their conference as well as in other conferences – to a single global total and that global total will go a long way towards determining who ultimately goes through.

So why the three individual conference log tables then? Well, the main purpose of those seems to be to easily see which team is the conference winner from each country, because those teams will automatically advance to the play-offs. It’s something that’s been added to ensure continued interest in the play-off series from all three countries – too often in the Super 14 or Super 12 there was a situation where either Australia or South Africa had no teams left come semi-final time. This way, even if the top South African team only finishes seventh or eighth on the final log, they will still proceed to the knock-out rounds.

Now, there have been some changes to the fixture list as well, with more local derbies included at the expense of a few of the so-called “cross conference” games. Looking at this from the perspective of the Sharks, for instance, we now play each of the other South African sides home and away, giving us 8 total games against teams within our own conference (rather than 4 like last year). In the Super 14, we played once against each of the other 9 sides in the competition; this year, a tenth has been added but rather than have to face an extra game against foreign opposition, they have taken one away, meaning we do not play either the Reds or the Highlanders in this year’s competition. We face 8 games against team from the other conferences, of which 4 will be in Durban and 4 overseas, 2 each in Australia and New Zealand. That gives us a total of 16 games in the round-robin phase, 8 at home, 4 at away locations in South Africa and 4 overseas. There has been no separation of the various phases, meaning that fixtures against South African and foreign teams are interspersed throughout the round.

On completion of the round robin, the top 6 sides on the combined log will go through to the knockouts, unless there is not at least one side from each of the three conferences in that top 6. In that case, the 6th-placed side will make way for the highest-placed team from the un-represented conference. In the completely unprecedented situation where the top 5 places are all held by teams from a single conference, then the 5th-placed team from that conference will make way.

The formula to determine the knock-out draw is a little complicated, but let’s try to explain that too. The first-placed side (who is naturally the winner of their own conference) will play a home semi-final. They will not need to play a knock-out match. The total points tallies of the remaining two conference winners are then compared and whichever side has the higher tally will also host a home semi-final and miss out on the knock-out phase. The remaining four sides will then play each other in a typical 3 v 6 and 4 v 5 knockout round, with the third conference winner occupying third place and log points defining who finishes 4th, 5th and 6th. The teams in places 3 (the remaining conference winner) and 4 (the non-conference winner with the highest log points) will enjoy home advantage in the knock-out games. The winners of those knock-out matches will then play away semi-finals against the two conference winners selected above. Obviously, the winners of the semi-finals will play in the final with log points once again deciding home-ground advantage in that match.

So, all-in-all, it’s not that different. The conference system merely complicates the play-off permutations somewhat and gives added hope to those teams who don’t quite make the top 4, but the way that the play-off system works, any team ending lower than 4th stands no chance whatsoever of winning the trophy anyway (since they will need to play three knock-out games away from home in quick succession). The best way to win the Super Rugby trophy is to top the overall log, meaning you only have to play two knock-out games, both of them at home.



98 Comments

  • Say what? :???: :oops: :wink:

  • Comment 1, posted at 06.01.11 15:06:20 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 1) : did I just make it worse? :)

    When I read this back, I was worried I may have!

  • Comment 2, posted at 06.01.11 15:09:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : I got it a long time ago, but what might be confusing is the logs. Some people might not get the fact that you have to see the 3 logs as one huge log. Maybe if they were side by side they’ll get the picture.

  • Comment 3, posted at 06.01.11 15:16:12 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • After reading about 10 articles on the subject it is slowly starting to make sense…it still doesn’t mean I like it very much.

  • Comment 4, posted at 06.01.11 15:16:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) :

    :mrgreen:

    Simplify Rob, don’t complicate!

  • Comment 5, posted at 06.01.11 15:17:06 by Ice (KCM) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 4) : I think it’s needlessly complicated

  • Comment 6, posted at 06.01.11 15:18:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (KCM) (Comment 5) : It’s not always that easy to simplify the complicated….just look at women :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 06.01.11 15:20:53 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Thanks, your explanation is clear, the thinking behind the expanded competition, not so much…

  • Comment 8, posted at 06.01.11 15:21:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 4) : Nice avatar!

  • Comment 9, posted at 06.01.11 15:22:53 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I’d still like to see the LMS format :razz:

  • Comment 10, posted at 06.01.11 15:25:24 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 9) : I love that pic….little Lambie handing off the great Schalk…what a moment!!!

  • Comment 11, posted at 06.01.11 15:26:35 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 8) : the thinking behind it is simple. The aussies wanted more local derbies and a guarantee of representation in the knockout phases. They got that, with an extra team to boot. Hard to work out what the advantages are for us and the kiwis

  • Comment 12, posted at 06.01.11 15:32:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 12) : I still think the CC is going marginalised. The Sharks probably won the last ‘proper’ Currie Cup

  • Comment 13, posted at 06.01.11 15:34:55 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 2) : Nah, it makes sense. It’s fairly similar to the way the NFL works.

    Still worried about the impact of the S15 on the quality of the Currie Cup. :sad:

  • Comment 14, posted at 06.01.11 15:35:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • So say the sharks finish 3rd in the confrence but we have more overall log points than a team in another confrence will the sharks go through ahead of them? I kinda understand this new format except that part

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.01.11 15:37:30 by sharkbok Reply

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  • Sorry if we get more log points than someone who finishes second in another conference

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.01.11 15:38:39 by sharkbok Reply

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  • @sharkbok (Comment 16) : That is how I understand it.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.01.11 15:40:30 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think the Pros of the new format are:
    a) For the first time in superrugby history going all the way back to 1993, we finally have a situation where all teams play the same number of home and away games in the regular season.
    b) The wildcard system which will hopefully generate the same kind of excitement as has been the case in the NFL and Heineken Cup.
    I agree that the Aussies are the real winners. Since their Mazda league collapsed they don’t really have a domestic compo and this home/away local format makes up for it.

    For me the real con is playing local teams 8 times in the regular season with another 8 encounters to follow in the Currie Cup. This just seems like overkill. As it is I don’t care much for the expanded tri-nations with 6 games per team. I really wish we could have more S15 games against the NZ and Aus franchises than local games but I understand that from a logistics point of view it would be a nightmare to organise.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.01.11 15:45:15 by beet Reply
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  • At the end of the day the goal should be to win all our games cos as they say to be the best you gotta beat the best

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.01.11 15:45:46 by sharkbok Reply

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  • @sharkbok (Comment 16) : Yebo. The first in each group will go through. The other 12 will be thrown in one big log and the top three will go through. So it can happen that of one conference nr 1 2 3 4 go through and 1 each of the others

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.01.11 15:48:17 by Stef Reply

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  • Ok now I get thanks @stef that makes sense could be very exciting could make it a little easier for the sa teams cos they should all get ten points against the lions at home and away haha

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.01.11 15:51:40 by sharkbok Reply

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  • @sharkbok (Comment 15) :

    it also means that u might end uo with more log points then somebody else by not no 1 in your confederation so sombody with less log points then you could go through in them being winners of there confederation

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.01.11 15:52:09 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @sharkbok (Comment 16) : yes…

    let’s say the three conferences end up like this:

    SA conf
    Bulls 55
    Stormers 52
    Sharks 48

    Aus conf
    Reds 49
    Tahs 47
    Brumbies 44

    NZ Conf

    Crusaders 56
    Canes 49
    Chiefs 43

    We end up with the combined log looking like this:
    1 Saders 56
    2 Bulls 55
    3 Stormers 52
    4 Canes 49
    5 Reds 49
    6 Sharks 48
    7 Tahs 47
    8 Brumbies 44
    9 Chiefs 43

    So the Saders and Bulls go through first and second, as conference winners with the most points. The will have home semis.

    The other teams go through in pretty much the order they’re in on the log… so Stormers will play Sharks in Cape Town in the one knockout and Canes will play Reds in Wellington in the other. Note that even though the Reds won the Aussie conference, they still have an away knockout game cos they weren’t in the top 2 conference winners.

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.01.11 15:52:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 22) : this example will show some of the gotchas. Let say the final consolidated log looks like this:

    1 Bulls
    2 Sharks
    3 Canes
    4 Saders
    5 Chiefs
    6 Stormers
    7 Reds

    In this case, the Stormers will not go through at all, with the Reds taking their place as aussie conference winners.

    In this case, it’s the Bulls and the Canes who will play at home in the semis (even though the Canes finished 3rd). The Sharks will host the Reds in the one knockout, with the Saders hosting the Chiefs in the other

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.01.11 15:55:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • Ok ja I have it now. Thanks everyone haha. Can’t wait to c the boys in action again GO SHARKS!!!!

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.01.11 15:56:03 by sharkbok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : In this example it’s also worth noting that if the Sharks beat the Stormers, as the bottom ranking team, they have to play the Crusaders, but if the Stormers won the game, they would be matched against the Bulls in the semis.
    Thats if I understand it correctly :?:

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.01.11 15:58:56 by beet Reply
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  • So all in all u have to finish in the top two avoid being knocked out by a wildcard..am I correct in saying that..

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.01.11 16:01:08 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 27) : No even if you finish 2nd you can still end up in a wildcard match, if the team in first is from your conference.
    Also if a wildcard wins their playoff game/s, they can still beat you in the semis or final.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.01.11 16:04:33 by beet Reply
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  • there is some confusion as to whether the 3rd conference winner goes through in 3rd place or not… I can’t find a firm answer to that

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.01.11 16:09:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • hold everything… I may be wrong :oops:

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.01.11 16:20:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • The only pro that I can see is that there are more local derbies and thus better income for the unions as these matches are generally better attended (true for the Lions matches, not so sure about the rest)

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.01.11 16:20:48 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : I think this was part of what Marinos and SARU initially insisted on – a guaranteed home semi – so it seems right to assume that the bottom placed conference winner gets a home playoff game iow automatic 3rd place

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.01.11 16:21:52 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : I think that If it ends like this:
    1. Bulls
    2. Saders
    3. Stormers
    4. Sharks
    5. Blues
    6. W’tahs
    Then the Stormers and W’tahs will play in a knock out match with the W’tahs hosting it.

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.01.11 16:25:00 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • only top 2 get home semis. The next 4 play “quarters” and then the 2 winners face the top 2 in the semis. The way I understand it is that if 3 New Zealand teams finish top 3, the 3rd one will be knocked out as only the top 2 in each conference progress further

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.01.11 16:25:15 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 31) : You probably find that the Lions attract the highest % away fans to their games coz of dismal number of home supporter coming thru the Ellis Park turnstiles.

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.01.11 16:26:18 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 35) : very likely to be true

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.01.11 16:27:21 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • @walter van Lions World (Comment 34) : The top team from each country is guaranteed the next 3 is the next ‘BEST’ 3 no matter which country they represent.

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.01.11 16:31:10 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 37) : okay then I had that wrong, I thought the top 2 of each country was guarenteed

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.01.11 16:32:16 by walter van Lions World Reply

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  • What I dislike about it, is that even if the Aussies fill the bottom 5 spots, they still get a team in the play-offs :evil:

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.01.11 16:35:51 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 39) : Traditionally 2 SA teams have competed for the woodenspoon each year, so these rules could just as easily favour our SA conference. Obviously the Melbourne Rebels might have change this dynamic in 2011 but from a historic stats viewpoint, you have to back the 3rd placed SA team as the one with an unfair advantage coming into the tournament.

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.01.11 16:42:16 by beet Reply
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  • I do have it wrong… the third conference winner automatically gets third place. Will update the thread now

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.01.11 16:44:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • let me rework my two examples…

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.01.11 16:49:40 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : ok – so if the final log looks like this:

    We end up with the combined log looking like this:
    1 Saders 56
    2 Bulls 55
    3 Stormers 52
    4 Canes 49
    5 Reds 49
    6 Sharks 48
    7 Tahs 47
    8 Brumbies 44
    9 Chiefs 43

    then the knockout “log” is:

    1 Saders (home semi)
    2 Bulls (home semi)
    3 Reds (home knockout)
    4 Stormers (home knockout)
    5 Canes (away knockout)
    6 Sharks (away knockout)

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.01.11 16:51:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 24) : and if it’s like this:
    1 Bulls
    2 Sharks
    3 Canes
    4 Saders
    5 Chiefs
    6 Stormers
    7 Reds

    then the knockout log is

    1 Bulls (home semi)
    2 Canes (home semi)
    3 Reds (home knockout)
    4 Sharks (home knockout)
    5 Saders (away knockout)
    6 Chiefs (away knockout)

    Note how the team coming second overall gets screwed in this scenario… while the team coming 7th benefits

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.01.11 16:53:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 40) : I only used the Aussies as an example coz I dislike them the most. Point is, a better team will not get to play in the semi-finals because another team has to get a certain spot.

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.01.11 16:53:49 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 44) : If the final log looks like this:
    1. Saders
    2. Bulls
    3. Sharks
    4. Reds
    Then team 3 gets screwed :twisted:

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.01.11 16:57:37 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 46) : No they dont :oops:

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.01.11 17:03:17 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 45) : Okay point taken but maybe not fully understood.

    I remember the first cricket WC that SA took part in. Every team had to play ALL the other teams in the first round and then the best 4 advanced to the semis. To this day, I still believe it was the best format to determine who rightfully deserved a place in the semis. My point is with the S15′s conferences (groups) there is bound to be increased debate in a few months time over who deserves places 2-6 and how they should be ranked for the playoffs.

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.01.11 17:04:53 by beet Reply
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  • I think KSA’s article from last year actually explains it much better!

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2010/09/13/how-it-works-s15/

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.01.11 18:41:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 49) : ;-)

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.01.11 22:54:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • This all seems a little unfair but whatever!

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.01.11 22:57:33 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 51) :

    In which way?

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.01.11 23:07:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 50) : hehehe. Had a feeling of deja vu while reading this thread

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.01.11 05:51:31 by Rahul Reply

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  • What the freakadell! :O I’m so confused :( go sharks hehehe :P

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.01.11 07:08:57 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 54) :

    Read mine, it’s less confusing. :lol:

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.01.11 09:12:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : read comment 44. A little unfair I’d say.

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.01.11 09:24:29 by Ben Reply
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  • “This way, even if the top South African team only finishes seventh or eighth on the final log, they will still proceed to the knock-out rounds”

    This to me is the ratio of the article.

    But in hindsight, this doesn`t put teams like the `Canes and Reds in a very good position. They might be good enough to reach 3rd or 4th on the overall log but not quite good enough to make 1st or 2nd in their conference.

    In SA it will be a dog fight between us, wp and bulls for those top spots . . .

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.01.11 09:27:25 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Okay, now I understand. To be honest I like the way we play more games in SA, and a uniform amount overseas. Too many campaigns hit hard by upteen trips across the Tasman. would love to see all SA teams doing well. Does anyone know if the Kings will get a look in at any stage? or do they really need to be playing CC A section first…

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.01.11 09:39:20 by Champion Shark Reply
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  • @Champion Shark (Comment 58) : if I remember correctly, the Kings will be playing a game against each of the SA franchises this year, although only the one against the Bulls has been confirmed.

    I think that might put their chances in perspective. Personally, I hope they beat both the Lions and the Cheetahs :)

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.01.11 10:31:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • eish this sound hard to understand :oops:

    just have to wait or read one paragraph at a time over and over again until i do understand it all :smile:

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.01.11 10:55:57 by chaz Reply

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  • thanks a lot. can you do it in afrikaans now and will the nz’s and aussies understand the thread

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.01.11 12:12:17 by prgdad Reply

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  • @prgdad (Comment 61) : afrikaans is maklik.

    Die nuwe Super Rugby reeks is ‘n groot boggerop. Al wat julle hoef te verstaan is dat die Crusaders weer gaan wen en al ons topspelers beseer gaan word voor die Wereldbeker. Lekker aand verder.
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.01.11 12:30:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 62) : LOL

    Rob, this whole super 15 thing looks like a whole lot of bollocks if you ask me.

    They have made the Super 15 politically correct for the Australian teams….

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.01.11 13:54:46 by Uli Reply
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  • maybe add an extra column on your log for overall position.

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.01.11 14:06:29 by try time Reply

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  • @try time (Comment 64) : good idea – thanks

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.01.11 14:43:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • On completion of the round robin, the top 6 sides on the combined log will go through to the knockouts, unless there is not at least one side from each of the three conferences in that top 6. In that case, the 6th-placed side will make way for the highest-placed team from the un-represented conference.

    If you’ll excuse the French, what a fucking joke! :roll:

    Easy to see which “conference” is going to benefit the most out fo this. :roll:

    Thanks for the rundown Robster.

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.01.11 15:30:12 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 65) : I’ve got a better idea….although it will mean undoing all your nice work. Use the overall log and just set the font-colours for the team names to be the same for each conference. That way it’s easy to see the overall and conference log positions at the same time.

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.01.11 15:33:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 67) : In fact, you can go one better, and bold the names of the teams who are currently qualified for the play-offs.

  • Comment 68, posted at 07.01.11 15:54:43 by klempie Reply

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  • GUYS there should be no overall position.

    The winner of each conference goes through, regardless of which position they end up on a (non-existent) overall log.

    Winner of each conference, plus the next three highest log points finishers.

    read MY article to understand it. :)

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.01.11 15:58:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 69) : That comment shoulda been a reply to @try time (Comment 64) :

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.01.11 16:00:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • The admins on this site are a bunch of circus clowns. :roll:

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.01.11 16:03:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 66) : There IS no combined log.

    If you want to combine the logs in ANY way it can only be done AFTER the winner from each conference is removed.

    So if you DO want to change the logs on display do it as follows.

    1) Display the three seperate logs.
    2) Write code to remove the leader from each conference.
    3) Write code to display the 3 leaders in their own little log. (for the purpose of showing who will not play in rnd 1 of the play offs)
    3) Write code to display the remaining teams in one log so everyone can see who the next best placed 3 teams are.

    Of course those of us who are not lazy will just look at the 3 seperate logs and do the math for ourselves. :razz:

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.01.11 16:12:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 71) : Now if only I could tell you what I think of some of the posters………. :razz: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.01.11 16:13:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) : Just get your damn stories straight! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.01.11 16:14:37 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 74) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.01.11 16:16:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 73) : comment of the year so far!

  • Comment 76, posted at 07.01.11 16:17:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 72) : I think you’re suggesting the wrong approach by removing the conference leaders. What should happen is that you should bold (or some other indication) who is currently qualifying for the play-offs. I personally like the idea of doing that in a global log because it’s cleaner and all the info is in one table so you can cross-reference between conferences. However, if you insist on being difficult, then display the conferences separately, indicating who is currently qualified for that conference.

  • Comment 77, posted at 07.01.11 16:18:41 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) : Hey it’s only 7th January. Not a very big sample set yet. ;)

  • Comment 78, posted at 07.01.11 16:19:21 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) :
    Ag it’s only been a short year. It was easy. :grin:

  • Comment 79, posted at 07.01.11 16:19:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 79) : That’s what I’m saying… :razz:

  • Comment 80, posted at 07.01.11 16:21:09 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 77) : but the current log we have clearly shows who the current semifinalists are

  • Comment 81, posted at 07.01.11 16:24:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) : Well that all depends on which of you is right. KSA or you. Until the Two Stooges have concluded their antics, we can’t know which is best. :razz:

  • Comment 82, posted at 07.01.11 16:27:40 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 77) : the fact remains that it would be damn difficult code to write to automate all six teams that go through to the play-offs.

    It will also complicate things because a team that is 5th on the global log could actually be first in its conference creating confusion as to who finishes where.

  • Comment 83, posted at 07.01.11 16:31:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 82) : the good news is we have just spoken and are 100% in agreement about what your problem is :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 07.01.11 16:34:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 83) : First of all, I don’t think it would be difficult to code at all. But secondly, it’s really not that hard to slap a couple of bold tags around the names at the end of each game. Don’t be lazy! :razz:

  • Comment 85, posted at 07.01.11 16:34:24 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 80) : Yeah but you usually talk kak and i ignore what you have to say. :lol:

  • Comment 86, posted at 07.01.11 16:35:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : Well at least you’re in agreement about SOMETHING!! :roll: :twisted:

  • Comment 87, posted at 07.01.11 16:35:55 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 85) : read my previous comment. :razz:

  • Comment 88, posted at 07.01.11 16:36:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 84) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

    And you can’t even say we talk behind your bsck because we told you about it. :)

  • Comment 89, posted at 07.01.11 16:38:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Right chaps. I’m outta here to go and work on my fast-growing impressive bulk. :cool: Keep it real. :cool:

  • Comment 90, posted at 07.01.11 16:42:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 90) : managed to hit 60 yet?

  • Comment 91, posted at 07.01.11 16:49:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 91) : 77. :cool: Like I said, fast-growing. :cool:

  • Comment 92, posted at 07.01.11 16:49:46 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 92) : shit dude – you weigh more than me now!

  • Comment 93, posted at 07.01.11 16:59:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 92) : you taking drugs, or did puberty finally catch up with you?

  • Comment 94, posted at 07.01.11 16:59:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 93) : Soon I’ll weigh enough to run out for the Sharks at the waterboy position. :cool:

  • Comment 95, posted at 07.01.11 17:10:32 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 94) : No ‘roids chinabean.

  • Comment 96, posted at 07.01.11 17:10:55 by klempie Reply

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  • i have understood how the s15 has worked and was ok with the competition (not overly excited though), until i looked carefully at the playoffs. i am shocked to see that the first team to a home semi is more than lucky the team from the weakest country. this doesn’t seem fair at all. this means for the next few years australia is almost certain of getting a home semi spot because the top team gets to play two very weak teams twice. not only that, this team will also be fresher as it can rest players during these easy games. new zealand and sa with the stronger player pools get punished for having better players as they won’t get as many log points.

  • Comment 97, posted at 20.01.11 08:52:41 by try time Reply

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  • I agree, there is unfairness and hopefully they will rethink the format asap and give us QUALITY instead of QUANTITY.

  • Comment 98, posted at 20.01.11 09:45:34 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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