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Beast – Lions not letting go


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 11 Jan 2011 at 11:20
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Sharksworld reported last week that Beast Mtawarira will be staying with the Sharks to honour the new three-year contract he signed in September 2010. This was based on an article written by Mike Greenaway of the Mercury in which the Sharks intimated that any supposed irregularities in this contract had been sorted out.

This notwithstanding, Lions CEO Manie Reynecke claims that the matter is far from settled, with Beast now in possession of two valid offers (one from the Sharks and another – understood to be far higher – from the Lions). Reynecke claims that the player himself now needs to decide which offer he will take up. Further allegations are that there is some personal connections between Beast and new Lions shareholder Robert Gumede, with one source going so far as to suggest that the IT entrepreneur has already bought a house for the Mtawariras in Johannesburg.

My take on all of this is that it’s a pretty desperate ploy to keep this story going long after it has already died. We’ll stick by what we’ve heard from Greenaway and the Sharks. For one thing, we know that Beast is currently heavily involved in pre-season training with the Sharks squad – I take this as a sign that he is not going anywhere. If he were keen to join the Lions – and truly believed that he had no binding contractual commitment to the Sharks – then he would have already moved to Johannesburg to get stuck in with his new team. in the words of the proverb, “if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, it must be a duck”. By the same token, Beast certainly looks very much like a Sharks player to me, regardless of what anyone else has to say.



89 Comments

  • I still can’t really picture Beast as playing for anyone other than the Sharks

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.01.11 11:33:51 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • amen Rob , well said

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.01.11 11:36:18 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • By the way Rob, I got my Sharks jersey today , they very nice

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.01.11 11:38:54 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 3) : excellent man. I am keen for one as well. Will wait till I’m there

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.01.11 11:40:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Mercury and Independent newspapers are very close to the Sharks. Craig Lewis always gives us good updates on the happenings in the team. They also very objective in their news reports.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.01.11 11:45:17 by Mocho Reply

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  • with one source going so far as to suggest that the IT entrepreneur

    Entrepeneur?? That’s quite generous! ROFL

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.01.11 11:46:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : yeah really nice

    very light , of course had to take one size bigger :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.01.11 11:52:56 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @klempie: lol

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.01.11 11:56:13 by bergshark Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 6) : I put that one in just for you

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.01.11 11:58:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • Come Saturday 1 Feb I will go to Newlands mainly to observe what Beast gets up to. I imagine he will be sitting on one of those white outdoor plastic chairs with the Newlands halfway line running directly below his crack, Lions jersey in one hand, Sharks jersey in the other….which one will he pull on though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.01.11 12:00:00 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : If you do rockup at Nuweland let me know

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.01.11 12:02:06 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : what about the sharks one he has been training in?

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.01.11 12:03:00 by war1 Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 11) : i’ll be there, in my super 15 sharks jersey :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.01.11 12:10:20 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 13) : @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : . @sharks_lover (Comment 13) : Round up a few folks and lets have a howdy

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.01.11 12:13:47 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 14) : i am at the canal walk boet

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.01.11 12:15:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 10) : Maybe we should organise a banner ” Beast Just Say No “

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.01.11 12:20:33 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 9) : Too kind. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.01.11 12:21:03 by klempie Reply

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  • Howzit mense!!
    The Lions have quickly become my least favourite SA team!!

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.01.11 12:22:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 15) : Not right now dude

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.01.11 12:23:30 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : And to think they are usually my second team :oops:

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.01.11 12:23:59 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • More politics :roll: I can’t wait for the rugby to start ONLY :cry: 37 days to go :sad:

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.01.11 12:24:16 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 14) :
    Sounds good, will let you know if I make it.

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.01.11 12:25:27 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 7) : Ja, have to take a bigger size than normal. Gonna have to lose some weight to feel comfortable in mine. Got until 23 April before the Hurricanes game though.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.01.11 12:26:36 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • I’ve got a sneaky suspicion it will be Sharks and Brokeback Mountaineers through to the play-offs. What say the rest of you?

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.01.11 12:28:04 by klempie Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) : Wat’s fout met politiek? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.01.11 12:28:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @Original Champion (Comment 16) :
    Good idea, but what if he does’nt see us sitting behind Jimmy Abbott and says no to the Sharks instead.

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.01.11 12:29:11 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • So sick of this story. Beast seems to agree he’s got a proper contract with the Sharks and has been training with them. Drop the story.

    I’d also like to see some proof that Robert Gumede is such a good ‘friend’ of the Beast. If he was, he would’ve offered the Beast a contract when his last one was about to expire.

    This is just the stupid SNOILS propaganda machine trying to derail the Sharks prep.

    And if the Beast really wants to move to the Lions strike a deal with the SNOILS and set the transfer fee @ 1 Pat Cilliers.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.01.11 12:29:36 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 25) : Flok die politiek…ek wil net rugby kyk.

    @Butchie34 (Comment 27) : I agree. I hate all the speculation.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.01.11 12:35:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 28) : I see Keo has an article saying that Frans Steyn is staying in France and won’t be joining the SNOILS.

    Also says that Deysel will miss the first few rounds of the Super 15. Didn’t we all already know this? He’s making a nice recovery but needs to give his knee a little more time to heal. I think Rob gave us this news in early December. Idiots.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.01.11 12:37:46 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 24) : I won’t be surprised if only 1 SA team makes it to the play offs. The Cheaters and Lions will probably keep there best rugby for the local derby’s and roll over and play dead against the overseas opposition.

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.01.11 12:38:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 29) :P hew! While I would love to see my boy back in SA soil….it would be really hard to support him in Snoil colours…

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.01.11 12:41:25 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 30) : As usual…

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.01.11 12:42:22 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 31) : Like the Beast. Hard to imagine him in that shirt that looks like a hemorrhoid.

    I’d still support him but only when he plays for the Boks.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.01.11 12:44:22 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • This is pathetic from the Lions…

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.01.11 12:46:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 23) : will meet you there!

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.01.11 12:48:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : by the way Rob , a new article up in sharksworld with an update as to the players and training

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.01.11 12:48:24 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 29) : ja – in fact, when the prognosis on Deysel’s injury was first announced – a good few months back – we revealed that he would miss the first few rounds. It’s not news.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.01.11 12:52:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 37) : agreed , it has always been known that deysel would atleast miss the first 2 super games

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.01.11 12:54:40 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 29) : Well I`m devasted.

    Had big D in my starting line up. Now it`s back to the drawing board for me . .

    Guess Kankow just got a promotion from the Bench.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.01.11 12:57:18 by Original Champion Reply
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  • @Original Champion (Comment 39) : it’s only for two rounds, but I suspect he will miss the tour as a precaution

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.01.11 13:00:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 7) : who would ever have thought I’d be happy to own a piece of clothing with a label that says it is 100% polyester???

    Does that mean that the guys in the 60s were actually cool and had chosen a fabric way ahead of it’s time?

    Ugh I can’t stand the feeling of polyester.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.01.11 13:02:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Mark Richards will be back with the Sharks soon, so will be available in the main squad if needed

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.01.11 13:04:23 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : lol it really is nice ,

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.01.11 13:05:45 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Whatever lion cubs! Better in luck in 3 years I say!

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.01.11 13:06:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 18) : In order of preference:
    1. Sharks
    2. Sharks XV
    3. Stormers
    4. Bulls
    5. Lions
    6. Cheetahs

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.01.11 13:08:01 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 45) : :lol:

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.01.11 13:09:51 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • :shock: stefan has added 6 kg’s of muscle damn he already a big bugger :smile:

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.01.11 13:13:32 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Wish beast will come out and make a statement to the press to put all these rumours to bed!

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.01.11 13:19:31 by Ben Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 30) : According to KSA, that can’t happen. Top two from all conferences go through regardless.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.01.11 13:21:42 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : I prefer spandex. rrrrrrr….. ;-)

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.01.11 13:23:27 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 49) : Wrong, only the top team of each conference goes through, followed, the next best 3, no matter where they come from.

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.01.11 13:24:46 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 49) : Only the top team in each conference is guarenteed of a playoff spot.

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.01.11 13:25:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 49) :

    W?
    T?
    F?

    Where did I say that? Go read my article. I have been trying to educate people for ages that only the top team from each country is assured of an initial play-off spot.

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.01.11 13:28:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 50) : dude with your frame size even a small will not require much expanding. :)

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.01.11 13:30:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 49) : @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 51) : @Pokkel (Comment 52) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : lol :)

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.01.11 13:33:18 by Ben Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 51) :

    @Pokkel (Comment 52) :

    Glad to see we have some clever posters on here. :)

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.01.11 13:35:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Hmmmmmm I don’t know guys am I the only 1 who thinks this might be true! That regardless beast training with the sharks he might want out??

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.01.11 13:36:17 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 57) : The fact is unless we have solid proof that he wants out why should we believe otherwise?

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.01.11 13:39:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 51) : Thank you for finally explaining it properly.

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.01.11 13:45:49 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 54) : Small frame size? You must not have been following my updates. :razz:

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.01.11 13:47:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : In that case, I revert to my suggestion that the global table be displayed, with conferences colour coded, and currently qualified play off contenders bolded. It simply makes the most sense.

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.01.11 13:50:01 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 59) : From where I stand the 7kg weight gain has all been in the mouth. :razz:

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.01.11 13:50:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 60) : Okay maybe we can add a possibles and probables column with historic averages as well.

    We’ll get right on it.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.01.11 13:54:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Good point ben :)

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.01.11 13:55:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 61) : Ha! :razz:

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.01.11 14:01:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 62) : Good idea.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.01.11 14:01:33 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 60) : Sounds good :idea:

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.01.11 14:09:02 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 66) :

    @ KSA See?

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.01.11 14:14:11 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 67) : I dont need colours to make it clearer. I want colours to make it prettier :wink:

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.01.11 14:18:48 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • oh well … would be sooo boring if Reynecke kept quiet…

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.01.11 14:19:22 by rekinek Reply
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  • on a different subject : any news on official pools for 6N and Varsity Cup?

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.01.11 14:20:30 by rekinek Reply
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  • this S15 log does look weirdly.

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  • @rekinek (Comment 71) : Saw on sky news yesterday that wales prop gethin jenkins will miss the whole 6n with a toe injury! It was funny! :)

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.01.11 14:43:11 by Ben Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 68) : :razz:

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.01.11 14:53:45 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 70) : official pool for? SB?

    No game has been opened as yet. :( as soon as they do I’ll get SW pools organized

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.01.11 14:56:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 53) : Superbru gives a pretty easy explanation… I mean even I understood it.

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.01.11 15:20:39 by Farlington Reply

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  • @Farlington (Comment 75) : We should get some SB admins over here at SW.

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.01.11 15:31:14 by klempie Reply

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  • Todays daily news Craig lewis writes that the Sharks are bolstered by the Beast who had recomitted to the Sharks.

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.01.11 18:31:33 by Mocho Reply

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  • Greenaway’s word is Gospel, don’t think we have anything to be worried about here :)

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.01.11 21:01:01 by MerckZ Reply

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  • More like the Sharks can’t let this go .. ;-)

    I’ve said from the beginning that there was no chance of Beast leaving , I guess it being a slow news period anything will do.

    And my new years wish is for Manie Reynecke to go and have a jaunt on the N1 Highway.

    Imo he is one of the main culprits of making the Lions brand so unlikable.

    FIRE HIS ASS !!!

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  • @CSB Aplon’s Biggest Fan ! (Comment 80) : agree 100%

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  • @CSB Aplon’s Biggest Fan ! (Comment 80) : Howzit CBS…so how do you think the Lions will do in the S15?

  • Comment 82, posted at 12.01.11 10:42:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) :

    Happy New Year Robd , hope its a goodin all round for you and the family ..and ofcourse the Sharks :grin:

  • Comment 83, posted at 12.01.11 10:43:45 by CSB Aplon's Biggest Fan ! Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) :

    Good thanks .. how bout you?

    Pokkel I seriously have no clue how we’ll do …I guess it all depends on how well Mitchell gets the team to gel ..

    The new format may be a blessing for us , ask me again after the Bulls match .. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 12.01.11 10:48:08 by CSB Aplon's Biggest Fan ! Reply

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  • gee this one is a great one Rob yep and agree with this Duck thing but i’m not going to say anymore to this one it will just get me in [email protected] again and i’m just not in the mood at all

    i just hope they will just let Beast be gee the guy is a shark and to buy him a house gee that is very well evil you can’t buy anyone if he doesn’t want to be bought :twisted:

  • Comment 85, posted at 12.01.11 13:14:58 by chaz Reply

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  • I don’t have a problem with the Lions or any other team going after players and offering them massive contracts and other incentives. That is what all franchises should be doing, spending their money in such a way to build the team into a better one over the long haul. One can not blame the Lions for trying to sign players, heck, the Sharks do the same thing, and should. The problem I have is if the player decides to back out of a signed contract to sign another contract with another team. I am so happy Beast has shown integrity and chosen to honour the contract he freely signed. If Beast had chosen to turn his back on the Sharks and the contract he signed with them to sign with the Lions, my issue would be with Beast (the player) not the Lions or other franchises. If the player does not have the integrity to honour a contract he signed, then he is not the kind of player I would want on my team. Believe me, I am not thrilled with either Ludik or Big Vic for backing out of their signed contract with the Lions. I realize the contracts had a loophole that the Sharks were able to exploit, but I am sure when the players signed with the Lions, their intent was to play out the entire contract, not look for a way out after a couple of years.

  • Comment 86, posted at 12.01.11 18:02:11 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 86) : I choose to use different criteria to judge players coming TO the Sharks and those wanting to LEAVE the Sharks :)

  • Comment 87, posted at 12.01.11 18:10:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : I choose not to be a hypocrite. :wink: I know your response was intended to be humourous, however, I really do have a problem with any player that tries to get out of a contract they signed freely. There are risks to both parties when signing contracts, and if it is OK to just drop out of an agreed to contract, the risk becomes astronomical to the team. Why is it OK for a player to decide the contract does not pay enough and to demand renegotiation or release to another team, while a team must continue to pay the player the agreed to salary even if they are playing incredibly poorly?

  • Comment 88, posted at 12.01.11 18:29:00 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Bryan Habana waited until his contract with the Lions was over before going to the Bulls, and he waited until his contract with the Bulls was over before going to WP. This is how it should be done, and although there are those that might say Habs has no loyalty (switching teams twice), he does have integrity in spades. If I were a team negotiating with a player, I would want the player to exhibit the kind of integrity that Habs has shown.

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