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Sharks use their get-out-of-jail card in Melbourne


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 11 Mar 2011 at 12:47
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The purists will argue that it wasn’t generally a very good performance, but the Sharks will take great heart from the never-say-die spirit that saw them beat a spirited Melbourne Rebels side by 34 points to 32 in Australia this morning. The four tries scored see them retain their grip on top spot on the Super Rugby log, but conceding an equal number to one of the less-fancied sides in the competition will be cause for concern.

The Sharks were sloppy in their execution at crucial times, starting right from the opening kick-off, when Alistair Hargreaves dropped the ball backwards to allow the Rebels to take control. The home side were fired up throughout and their ball retention and pressure defence was for the most part very good, causing the Sharks the sort of problems that they haven’t had to counter in their previous three matches. Pat Lambie, despite being guilty of some ordinary decision-making, was spot on with his goal kicks all night, though and his six-from-six record ultimately proved decisive.

The Sharks went through fifteen exhilarating phases to score through Bismarck du Plessis and with two further Lambie penalties, raced out to 13 points. The Rebels took control towards the end of the first half, though, with their big runners in midfield exposing the Sharks defence. Two quick tries to Cooper Vuna and Julian Huxley saw the Melbourne team take the lead at 18-13, and an audacious break by flyhalf Cipriani – who had a very good game – saw him score their third shortly after half time.

At 25-13 down with about half an hour to play, the Sharks looked in trouble, yet somehow not vanquished and although they still struggled to get their game into top gear, strong runs from the likes of Willem Alberts and Bismarck du Plessis (the latter also responsible for a number of crucial steals on the ground) kept them in touch, before a good break by the big number 7 and some quick hands amongst the backs saw Lwazi Mvovo scoot over for the try that brought them back into it. They again really struggled to get any closer for an agonising 15-minute spell, before Ryan Kankowski finally brought matters level by barreling over after a strong 5 metre scrum. That platform had been given away through a terrible goal-line fumble from Rebels centre Julian Huxley and Lambie’s conversion put the Sharks ahead 27-25 with around 12 minutes left in the game.

Huxley’s nightmare was not over, though, as he grassed a regulation pass on midway just a few minutes later, which Adi Jacobs pounced on and dribbled ahead to set up the bonus point try, under the sticks, for Meyer Bosman. Lambie’s sixth successful kick from six took the Sharks out to 34-25. The Rebels, though, were not done and managed to snaffle two crucial bonus points themselves when they drove Jarrod Saffey over for their fourth try a minute from time. Cipriani brought them within two points, but a deep kick from Jacques-Louis Potgieter, coupled with a good steal on the deck from Jacobs, saw the Sharks’ blushes spared as they held on to win 34-32.

For the Sharks to take five points from such a poor performance against a fired-up team playing good rugby is certainly heartening, but the defensive woes revealed in this game were very concerning indeed and will be the subject of much food for thought in the week ahead.

Scores:
Rebels (32): Tries by Vuna, Huxley, Cipriani and Saffey. Three conversions and two penalties by Cipriani.
Sharks (34): Tries by B du Plessis, Mvovo, Kankowski and Bosman. Four conversions and two penalties by Lambie.



104 Comments

  • in the end,it’s a win and 5 points on the log.
    Didn’t watch the game,but sounds like there some silly moments in the game that cost the sharks (mvovo not passing with 3-on-1 situation,and rebels scoring from that turn-over?4uddenly they were back in it instead of 18-6 or 20-6 down).

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.03.11 12:54:52 by bergshark Reply
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  • Besides our poor defense I have now lost count of how many scoring opportunities we’ve left on the park over the last few games, which were a direct result of players not being able to do a simple thing like pass the ball. I think the post-match video they need to watch is the Crusaders/Brumbies one.

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.03.11 12:55:22 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Good grief, that was nerve-wracking. It just seemed as though we weren’t there and maybe we were perhaps a little guilty of already looking toward the Chiefs.

    The positive is that we have showed that like the Bulls we can grind out the wins when we need to.

    The Rebels did have a few forward passes missed, but that was the bounce of the ball and if you get them you take them.

    This Rebel team will trouble a lot of other teams this year.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.03.11 12:55:52 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Sounds like line-outs also still a bit of a hit-and-miss..

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.03.11 12:56:01 by bergshark Reply

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  • Apt title. Did we think we had this one in the bag before kick-off? The mind is a strong and dangerous element, but let’s take the fiver and go to nz. Aus has never been our best tour site, but we do like NZ!

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.03.11 13:00:13 by catfish Reply
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  • @rhineshark: snap! How can players not be able to exploit the 3 on 1 ?take it to the training field,plum!please..

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.03.11 13:00:55 by bergshark Reply

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  • @catfish (Comment 5) : True, we do prefer NZ but if we play like this against the Crusaders we’ll be lucky if they only score 60 against us.

    @bergshark (Comment 6) : That’s the 2nd time this year already, if Alberts had done so in the Blues game, we could’ve had another bonus point maybe.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.03.11 13:02:15 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Good soccer skills from Adi, 2 neat little grubbers which kept the ball in play.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.03.11 13:03:11 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @catfish:hope team are now aware of the fact that no result is a given in this comp,or rugby in general..(Or in life,for that matter).

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.03.11 13:03:12 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 9) : If they weren’t before, they should definitely be now.

    Hopefully, the team knuckles down looks at what went wrong and correct it before we meet the Chiefs.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.03.11 13:05:44 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 6) : Our backline let us down tonight, for sure, but generally they’ve been pretty solid. What concerned me was the communication problems between Stef and Meyer. They’ll need to sort that out. I just think that we’re trying to be a little too fancy. Our strength is based around our forwards, and when we spread the ball out wide we look a little slow and vulnerable. As boring as it sounds, we’re much more effective with Alberts, Bismark and Beast crashing it thru the middle.

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.03.11 13:07:56 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 8) : Great tackle and steal @ the death with Rebels on attack… ;-)

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.03.11 13:08:49 by Charlie Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 11) : But we can’t always rely on them to get us through because teams are going to start targeting them and then we’re stuck. Our backline looked creaky tonight but it will improve. I think that’s the most important thing, is that we can improve.

    We’re only 1 of 3 teams not to have lost a game so far and by the end of tonight that’ll be down to just 2 and we’re not firing on all cylinders yet.

    It’s actually encouraging.

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.03.11 13:10:16 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @CapeShark:guess we need to invest more in big no 7 flankers..

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.03.11 13:11:29 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 4) : Yes, we lost about 5 of our lineouts. Three for not throwing in straight and twice Bissie totally missed the jumpers. So he had an off day throwing, but his work-rate on defense is second to none in this competition.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.03.11 13:13:19 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 14) : We should have Deysel coming back soon. Probably now only when we get back from tour though.

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.03.11 13:13:30 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 16) : still 3 weeks away.

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.03.11 13:15:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • Pat Lambo, thank you for not missing a kick tonight. That earned us 5 points.

  • Comment 18, posted at 11.03.11 13:15:27 by Reebok Reply

     
  • @Reebok (Comment 18) : amen to that… where are the detractors?

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.03.11 13:15:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • you know what? A year ago, we would have lost this game… I think that’s a key point.

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.03.11 13:17:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Reebok (Comment 18) : Yip, the difference was a missed conversion by Cipriani, otherwise both teams had the same amount of scores. Same number of tries and penalties.

    @robdylan (Comment 19) : Ja, apparently Lambie has a shocking conversion rate of kicks at 80+%. These guys will only be happy when Lambie doesn’t miss a kick at goal and then still slots three drops from his own 22.

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.03.11 13:17:45 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Nail biting stuff!!!! Well done to all the SHARKS BOYS!!!! Cant wait to watch recording tonite [at work now]

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.03.11 13:17:51 by Ardent Shark Reply

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  • I still think Keegan Daniel is our best bet at 8. I know things were shuffled to accommodate the injury to Botes, but I would love to see KD get an extended run at the back.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.03.11 13:18:09 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : I was thinking the same thing, we can see nice growth in the Sharks BMT.

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.03.11 13:19:16 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 19) : I think he has around an 80% kicking average and is the top points scorer in the competition so far.

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.03.11 13:20:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • Ryno elstadt??

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.03.11 13:20:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 25) : That he is. He has only missed 3 kicks at goal in 4 games I believe. His accuracy is probably in the highg 80s now.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.03.11 13:21:22 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Need to give a player like lambert groenewald some serious gametime this season ( cc).develop the talent we have.

  • Comment 28, posted at 11.03.11 13:21:47 by bergshark Reply

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  • Perhaps the Rebels were the Reds of 2009 but this time we won :razz: I definitely hope so.

  • Comment 29, posted at 11.03.11 13:22:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 26) : What about our own Dan Adonga?

  • Comment 30, posted at 11.03.11 13:22:23 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Will watch the game tonight (I am suffering from Jarson’s syndrome right now) but let’s look at the positives. Isn’t it the first time the Sharks beat all their Australian opponents on tour :cool:

  • Comment 31, posted at 11.03.11 13:23:37 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 31) : That it was.

    I’m grateful I have a Drifta. Of course, the amount of work I managed to complete during the game was a big fat nil.

  • Comment 32, posted at 11.03.11 13:25:05 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @butchie34:thanks for the match info :-)
    Bissie is a monster on def (winning ball at breakdowns).with him and deysel in combo,we’ll be def very dangerous.

  • Comment 33, posted at 11.03.11 13:25:36 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 33) : He actually shows that we don’t need a ‘fetcher’ flank cos we have a ‘fetcher’ hooker. :lol:

    Imagine at the WC if we have both Bissie and Brussow on the field. The other team is going to struggle.

  • Comment 34, posted at 11.03.11 13:26:53 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34: yes,adonga also.but he needs to show what he can do in the vc still.lambert and coetzee seem to have both leap_frogged him.

  • Comment 35, posted at 11.03.11 13:28:59 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 35) : True and Lambert was called up already onto the bench for the Sharks against the Blues, I can’t remember if he got onto the field, I think he did.

    AND

    Marcell Coetzee is on his way over to NZ at the moment. I think we’re fine with our stock of number 7s at the moment, they only need to get some game time and experience.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.03.11 13:31:14 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • My only real concern is in defence. As I said the previous 2 weeks we need to sharpen up there, especially in the centres channel.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.03.11 13:33:22 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 37) : Our defence really let us down today and if we had been up for our defence we could have had a nice lead instead of only 2.

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.03.11 13:34:15 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Good result away from home and first time in Melbourne. Just thought Terblanche missed a few tackles.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.03.11 13:34:19 by Speed7 Reply

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  • @Butchie34:yes,lambert had gametime vs blues,but why then didn’t the sharks sent him on tour?

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.03.11 13:35:18 by bergshark Reply

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  • But then again we won and got 5 points. Ill take that any day don’t matter how they come.

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.03.11 13:35:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @Speed7 (Comment 39) : A lot of players missed tackles.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.03.11 13:35:51 by lostfish Reply
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  • Didn’t see the game,but if mvovo passes with a 3 on 1 ,then we wouldve been up 18-6 or even 20-6.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.03.11 13:37:05 by bergshark Reply

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  • how many carries did alberts have in this game?he needs some rest.

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.03.11 13:40:33 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 44) : Machines doesn’t rest! :)

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.03.11 13:43:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 36) : I think MArcell’s call-up ahead of Lambert was probably justified based on VC form, but you could argue that what we really need is another 7, since we have 3 very good 8s already. Marcell is a classic no 8, if you ask me… don’t see him being used at 7.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.03.11 13:46:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Speed7 (Comment 39) : Stef had one of his poorer games… although, strangely enough, I thought he started playing much better once Smit went off and he took over the captaincy.

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.03.11 13:47:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 43) : Quite a number of our players had a bit of an off day.

    Besides the passing error by Mvovo he also botched a set move between McLeod, Daniel and himself which opened the defense up and would have worked perfectly had he not been way too far back for Daniel’s pass.

    McLeod also had a game below his normal high standards. Smit did just about enough to hold the fort and the difference Jannie made when he came on was noticeable.

    Stefan and Meyer had a day they would rather forget in the midfield and even Somerville ran through the daylight between them early in the game.

    So basically, we could argue that this kind of thing does happen from time to time and that next week will be OK. That’s what I’m going to keep telling myself, anyway ;-)

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.03.11 13:52:36 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : Is it maybe the kind of thing, where they know they’re going to be using Marcell at some time in the future and want to get him accustomed to the atmosphere and the senior players?

    I’m still just relieved we won this game. Think we made the cardinal error of thinking we only had to rock up at the ground to win.

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.03.11 13:53:05 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • To tell you guys the truth, I thought that by bringing Smittie into the starting lineup and making him captain disrupted the flow of the team. Plus dont get me started on Smittie playing tighthead. And Ive got the world of respect for Smittie.

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.03.11 13:53:09 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 50) : Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I think the team had gelled up until this point and the change threw somewhat of a spanner into the works.

    But then we also have to remember that this is a marathon and everyone will have to have a game or two off at some point during the campaign, so they’re going to have to get used to these kind of changes.

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.03.11 13:54:35 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : I thought it might be the case…okes seemed to be settled with him – no offense to Johnno!

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.03.11 13:54:56 by Ice Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 48) : I don’t think that was really his fault. The pass that far out to Mvovo was speculative at best. If Keegan had offloaded to Odwa who was right on his shoulder, Odwa could have then offloaded to Mvovo and the try would’ve been on.

    The one he botched was when he had an overlap with Ludick and he tripped over his own feet.

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.03.11 13:57:38 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Yes remember when last did Smittie really play for an extended period with most of these guys?

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.03.11 13:58:56 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 53) : The move was designed to pull the defense to Odwa (which it did) and then pass to Mvovs, but he was too far back and also too close to the touchline.

    I’m not dissing Mvovo alone, because overall our finishing has been poor. Those are the kinds of chances we need to take.

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.03.11 14:00:24 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Our defence needs work, I dont want to say it again.

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 53) : He did not!! Even the commentators ( the most biased on earth)said he was taken out! I think it was Gerrard.

  • Comment 57, posted at 11.03.11 14:01:49 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 55) : There was a player but he was also taken out by Keegs. So the move would’ve worked as described.

    But they need to take the lessons from this game and move on.

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.03.11 14:02:37 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 53) : i am sitting here watching the replay , of what you are talking about, and mvovo sure as hell did not trip over his own feet

    why are you guys so negative ?? am i missing something ?? did we lose???

    Smitty did just fine , the one penalty we got at scrum time was beast that caved in , or is that smits fault too???

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 57) : That I won’t argue with. I also thought he was taken out but I’m just giving the benefit of the doubt because the sly Aussie director decided to show the incident again on a camera which had the take out off camera. Convenient, isn’t it?

  • Comment 60, posted at 11.03.11 14:03:41 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Guys guys – what are we getting out of this? We got a win (from trailing which shows great character against a motivated team), we got max points out of it as well! This IMO is GOOD! Something we did not get right in the past. Yes, do we need to improve – off course – BUT u need to improve after each game anyway to be the best… I say CHEERS SHARKS!! :grin:

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.03.11 14:04:18 by Ice Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 58) : Yip, we won’t be able to afford the luxury of creating chances and then not capitalising on them. This is going to be the toughest Super Rugby competition ever and only the high accuracy teams are going to make it.

  • Comment 62, posted at 11.03.11 14:06:19 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : I don’t think I’m being negative. We won so there’s always that positive.

    We came from behind and proved that we can grind out a win as well.

    Smittie held up fine, but I still think he isn’t a tighthead, but is willing to play whereever he can. I think if Plum had to come and say he was going to be the fullback, Johnno would pull the 15 jumper on for the team.

    Unfortunately, I was watching the incident on my Drifta so I couldn’t rewind and the only time I’ll be able to watch this game again is tonight and didn’t see exactly what happenned and said to Me2, the Aussies conveniently showed a replay of the incident with a camera that didn’t have the incident on.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 47) : HIyas rob

    I agree Stef and Bosman both did not have a great day at the office,
    Smitty did not have a bad game i thought for someone that in all honesty has not had much game time , that did show

    how brilliant was bissy?? :shock: he was massive in this game

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.03.11 14:07:34 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 62) : And currently we are one of the high accuracy teams, but we need to up our accuracy to superhuman levels.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.03.11 14:07:51 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 59) : True, he didn’t trip over his own feet. But he ran straight into the defender, lost the ball in the tackle and the counter attack from the turnover resulted in Huxley’s try.

    It was one of those days :|

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.03.11 14:12:16 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 53) : you don’t think Lwazi was taken out there?

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.03.11 14:12:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 60) : They always do that…when they realise their player is wrong, they pan the camera away ;-) Twits!

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.03.11 14:12:32 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 64) : hate to say it, but the missed lineout throws were a bit of a light on an otherwise outstanding performance.

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.03.11 14:13:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • 10 points on tour is still not such a bad thing?

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.03.11 14:14:16 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 67) : To be honest, I don’t know. I was following Ludick and only noticed Mvovo rolling to the side when Ludick passed and the angle the Aussies used to show the incident again didn’t show it at all.

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.03.11 14:14:34 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 65) : I know it’s a bit difficult to judge the Brumbies’s worth at the moment, but the Crusaders showed some of what you mention about “taking accuracy to superhuman levels.”

    But they can be disrupted and rattled as well, and made to look ordinary. Sharkies know how to do that ;-)

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.03.11 14:16:07 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 70) : It’s nothing to sneeze at. We’re now only 3 points away from equalling our best overseas tour ever. If we only win against the Chiefs without a bonus point, we’ll eclipse that.

    If we can beat the Saders as well, we’ll blow it out of the water as well as become the first SA team to ever win all of their overseas tour matches (if I’m not mistaken – the Stormers came close once but fell right at the end).

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.03.11 14:16:10 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 66) : Are we talking about the same incident here :?: I think not…what you discribing happened later :roll:

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.03.11 14:16:13 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 73) : Hey…let’s not get ahead of ourselves here….one game at a time…please.

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.03.11 14:18:25 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 75) : I know. I am taking it one game at a time. Hell, we don’t even know if the final game against the Crusaders is even going to be played in NZ.

    I was just trying to paint a picture of what can happen going forward.

    But it seems as though I can’t win here. I get accused of being both overly negative and too positive ;-)

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 74) : I am going by memory (and as you can imagine with the blood pressure at full revs) so it could have been.

    What I remember is them kicking the ball deep and Alberts fielding the catch. Then passing a long pass to Mvovo in the middle of the field on about our 22m line. Mvovs ran the ball back at the Rebels with about three players on his outside, but didn’t pass.

    He got tackled, the ball spilled loose and the counter attack resulted in Mortlock breaking Stefan’s tackle and passing to Huxley, who scored.

    But I am getting on a bit “in the middle ages”, so maybe it was something totally different that happened or my brain combined two seperate incidents into one memory :mrgreen:

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.03.11 14:23:04 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 77) : Sorry bud, the incident we’re talking about is where we ran from our own half with Oupa(I think) passing to Ludick who takes the outside with Mvovo in support. He gets all the way to the 22 when he is tackled and Mvovo outside him probably being tackled before the ball was even tossed in his direction.

    If he hadn’t been tackled early/tripped he would have probably scored a try under the sticks.

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.03.11 14:26:18 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 77) :You are quite right BUT the incident we were talking about was when Ludick passed to Lwasi and he was taken out bfore he caught the ball. Intially the commentators said he has tripped over his own feet, but then had to admit he was taken out by, I think, Gerrard.

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.03.11 14:27:04 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 76) : ;-)

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.03.11 14:31:18 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • Personally, and in line with my ever-sunny disposition and positive nature, I think this is the best possible result! Here’s why:

    1) We won, and attained a bonus point, meaning we top the SA conference, and will in all probability still top the overall standings
    2) We conceded two bonus points, but it was against the Rebels, who are unlikely to feature, come play-off time, so this won’t come back to hurt us
    3) Huge wake-up call! Despite all the talk of no complacency, I think there probably still was an element of it present. If, after this, the guys don’t learn that you can NEVER just show up and expect to win, then they are beyond hope
    4) Problem areas were highlighted; although there was talk of improving our defence, after not conceding any tries in the first 3 rounds, I wonder whether everyone really took the message to heart. Shouldn’t be a problem after this (although, conceding 4 tries grates me as a fan!)
    5) Although being in a position where we could easily have lost the game was all our own fault, the fact that the guys displayed the necessary grit and composure to grind out a win is to me hugely heartening. I am not convinced that the Sharks teams of the previous 10 years would have had the requisite mental strength

    So, although our campaign was almost derailed, we are actually still firmly on track. Go Sharks!

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.03.11 14:31:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 76) : I know, I know!!! It is just that I always feel we put a hex on the team when we get too carried away :grin: with our prdictions :!:

  • Comment 82, posted at 11.03.11 14:33:19 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 81) : I agree with you completely on all of your points.

    It’s particularly the wake-up call without losing that I’m grateful about. And to be honest, I think we also showed that our backline against what many might say, has pretty decent toe.

  • Comment 83, posted at 11.03.11 14:34:22 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • I don’t think Smittie did anything bad, and I know players will have to be rotated. But in they will have to train harder or something to prepare that it dont interupt the dynamics. But we won and thats all that matters

  • Comment 84, posted at 11.03.11 14:34:45 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 81) : Do you REALY think, if we had lost, our campaign would have been “derailed” :?: :?:

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.03.11 14:36:47 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 82) : I know, it’s almost as though they start to believe the hype.

    @Robdylan. There was an article before the season started (maybe toward the end of Jan/beginning of Feb) where one of the contributors gave a prediction of where we would be at about this time in the season. I’d actually be really interested to see how close he/she was in that prediction. If I remember correctly, we might actually be in a better position than predicted.

  • Comment 86, posted at 11.03.11 14:36:50 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 32) : lol – SAME HERE!

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.03.11 14:36:58 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 85) : I don’t know if our campaign would’ve been derailed but our confidence would’ve been shattered and that might be as good as derailing the campaign.

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.03.11 14:37:46 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 87) : Still not a lot being accomplished at the moment, but that’s what Mondays are for.

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.03.11 14:39:20 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 89) : Agree totally…..very greatfull for the drifta.

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.03.11 14:43:39 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 90) : The only problem is that my Drifta only shows a small screen and I can’t open it to a big screen on my laptop. Do you have the same problem or do you use an iPad?

  • Comment 91, posted at 11.03.11 14:44:44 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 78) : @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 79) : OK, I recall the incident you guys are talking about, but I never made a comment about that.

    Always was on my own little tangent. No wonder the confusion reigned :roll:

  • Comment 92, posted at 11.03.11 14:48:41 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Very hard game to watch,too many mistakes and our midfield was non existent on defense,smit had a poor game when you judge him by the standards of the man who ultimately replaced him,but it also showed that bismarck is our number 1 hooker and was the best player out there today,as for our locks we seriously need to get a line out coach,no longer can this weakness in our game be ignored,stefan also had a poor game all around and missed a lot of tackles,but even so we still won and with 5 points no less,well done to the boys for pulling threw but they need to work on that defense ,or the crusaders are gonna spank us,and what happened to all the hype of stefan being 100kg plus,still doesn’t use his weight to his advantage to be honest he needs to get more aggressive he is looking like spies out there lmao!

  • Comment 93, posted at 11.03.11 15:27:50 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 93) : always find it amazing that so many fans only look at the negatives……DID you see any positves in this game?

  • Comment 94, posted at 11.03.11 15:45:23 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 92) : We’ll forgive you ;-)

  • Comment 95, posted at 11.03.11 15:46:44 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 94) : We won. Always a massive positive.

    We did some things badly, but we still won so we came away with a wake-up call.

    Lambie’s kicking. What poor kicking? Someone actually said he is now on a success ratio of 92% for the season and he is kicking goals overseas, something which the great rugby god, Morne Steyn seems unable to do. :twisted:

  • Comment 96, posted at 11.03.11 15:53:33 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 94) : did u miss the part where I said WE WON! Or did u conviently ignore it? We won is the positive,if u read what I said attentively you would have known that

  • Comment 97, posted at 11.03.11 16:01:05 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 93) : I also think that Smit isn’t a tighthead, didn’t think it when PDivvy in all his glorious wisdom shifted him there in 2009 and I still don’t. He is either a hooker or he can play loosehead but not tighthead.

    I understand that Plum sees him as more than capable of being able to cover all 3 front row positions but those are my thoughts.

    BUT unfortunately, as much as I like and respect him, Tendai and the Dup brothers are the best in their position in SA and as a combo probably the best in the world.

  • Comment 98, posted at 11.03.11 16:04:22 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 85) : OK, fair point, “derailed” is probably a bit overly-dramatic. Damaged/unsettled/affected might be more appropriate. Fact is, we don’t really know what the effect would have been; would it have dented their confidence and started a sequence of defeats? Or galvanised the squad into attaining hitherto unknown heights?? At the end of the day, what is important for me is that we came away with a win (and bonus point!) but probably learnt the same lessons we would have from a defeat.

  • Comment 99, posted at 11.03.11 16:05:17 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 99) : My thoughts exactly.

    I think people (and this is directed to PDivvy and the rest of the one-eyed Bulls supporters) need to see that Kanko can make the hard yards as well, if not even that Spies. And at the moment, it’s better than Spies.

  • Comment 100, posted at 11.03.11 16:07:32 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Butchie34 (Comment 98) : totally agree

  • Comment 101, posted at 11.03.11 16:30:06 by Poisy Reply
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  • We have scored 13 tries in 4 games :cool: and conceded only 4 (4 in 1 game) :roll: I think the team showed some great character today, but our defence needs attention. Good luck for the next game Sharks.

  • Comment 102, posted at 11.03.11 16:38:35 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 102) : Agreed, sign of a good team if you pull through when things aren`t going your way . . .
    But our mid-field defense is a huge concern.
    Chiefs makes lots of mistakes so we might still be in with a shout there, Crusers on the other hand . . .
    SBW and Fruean will score at will if Bosman and Stefan don`t shape up.
    Surprisingly I feel Bosman did better than Stefan who had a nightmare . . .

  • Comment 103, posted at 12.03.11 10:02:50 by Original Champion Reply
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  • Even though the game was sloppy in terms of execution, I for one am very happy with the net result. The Rebels are an unpredictable team with no previous exposure to Super Rugby – thus you have no samples to draw a game-plan from; thus beating them was a very good result. We didn’t play our best rugby, we don’t know their structures and their game plan – and they almost played at their peak with mystery being their trump card.

    Very happy – GO SHARKS!

    I also think that we didn’t prime ourselves for maximum collision to stay a little fresher for the next two games, both against tricky opposition (Well one being tricky and hurting from a near win, and the other the show pony of the competition)

    Meyer Bosman and Stef need to work a lot closer and learn to understand each other better, their midfield is looking vulnerable at the moment.

    Agree with O.C regarding our centre combo.

  • Comment 104, posted at 12.03.11 12:20:29 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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