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Springbok selection – men who stare at goats?


Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Admin, Original Content, Sharks, Springboks, Super Rugby on 11 Apr 2011 at 18:45
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I love it when a plan comes together. And last Saturday’s plan was perfectly executed thanks to those charming and lovable oafs from the Boerestad soiling their onderbroeke against the Saders in Timaru and those equally affable and laid back bru’s from the land of the large flat mountain playing it by the book, the whole book and nothing but the book and discovering it was a book the Reds had already read.

And of course, the plan was topped off with icing and a big fat cherry thanks to our darling Sharks finding the will to win again, and the Lions wondering if they shouldn’t perhaps be playing for the Proteas. But hang on a minute. Aren’t we all being a little short-sighted here in our eagerness to wallow in self-satisfaction? In our zeal to do our fellow South African teams down have we not forgotten that at some point in the not too distant future we must unite one and all and once more form the ultimate rugby squad to defend our World Cup crown?

It will soon be time for our much maligned, fabulously talented and unwaveringly even-handed Springbok selectors to toss the biggest and best names in South African rugby into a big green and gold hat and pull them out again, in no particular order. It must be a very hard job, to be sure… (she says, letting her mind wander…)

I imagine a darkened room full of cigar smoke and brandy fumes and a gathering of men seated around a huge table… First they write names out with a big black koki on scraps of paper and fold said scraps into neat little packages with no identifying marks on them to make the draw free and fair. For those who can’t write, coloured kokis are provided so they can draw pictures of who they want to put into the hat… A banana for Habana, a bakkie for Bakkies, a strange, menacing-looking creature for Beast… You get the idea I am sure.

Then, when all of the scraps of paper have been put into the hat, it gets sent to the Hogwash School of Mystery and Mayhem where Harry Potter’s understudy, Larry Blotter, waves a magic wand over it before sending it back to Springbok HQ. Then begins a solemn ritual behind closed doors in a room so secret even Dan Brown has never heard of it. Incense is burned, strange little men in even stranger costumes chant in tongues over the hat, taking it in turns every 93.6 seconds to pull a single scrap of paper out until 22 scraps have been collected from them by a tall hooded man holding an aged goat who everyone keeps staring at, placing them in a pair of old velskoene tied together at the laces.

It is the goat who carries the skoene containing the final names to Peter de Villiers, just prior to the media announcement of the Springbok squad. Some say it is the voice of the goat which comes out of P Div’s mouth when he makes the announcement, and that the goat is really the righteous spirit of an ancient and mythical South African flyhalf consistently passed over at selection time now playing somewhere in France…

Whose names will be on those hallowed scraps this year, fellow Sharksworlders? Who indeed? It’s something for us to ponder as our heroes from KZN take a well-earned break from the toil and turmoil that is SupeRugby. For it seems to this seasoned scribe that we are in somewhat of a fix this year… Our heroes of old are fast approaching their sell-by dates, and those who would replace them are somewhat lacking in experience. Our foes from the lands down under and mortal enemies from the north are looking strong and hungry and it’s anyone’s guess who will prevail.

OK. Let’s put rhetoric on the back burner and come right out with it – I have a sinking feeling that the names which will be gracing the green and gold this September will be unnervingly familiar. And potentially damaging to our cause because unless miracles happen between now and then, only a bare handful of them will have actually found the form which made them world-beaters in 2007, if what we are seeing in SupeRugby is anything to go by.

It seems to me that South African rugby (for which read Springbok rugby) is fast approaching a critical watershed moment, where the balancing act between old and new heroes is of crucial importance. Young blood is needed to revive and quicken old blood – it’s what I call the “Highlander” factor – and the experience and wisdom of the old guard is needed to guide and mentor the next generation of Springbok heroes.

The big question is whether the selectors will take this into account or consider the World Cup too dangerous a proving ground for new talent. I fear that if they form the latter opinion, our World Cup campaign will be over before it has even begun.
From my mouth to the old goat’s ears…



65 Comments

  • WEIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! movie that.

  • Comment 1, posted at 11.04.11 18:59:53 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Another entertaining read. Well done :grin:

  • Comment 2, posted at 11.04.11 19:00:10 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Very good read and some real hard questions are asked. The springboks will have good forwards but the backs are not performing at present.

  • Comment 3, posted at 11.04.11 19:29:08 by Danman110 Reply

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  • I have the same fear as you. Choosing only experience above form will be a huge mistake.

  • Comment 4, posted at 11.04.11 19:30:45 by Ben Reply
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  • I hope Div and co use this years Tri Nations for some experimentation we need to pick on form players and let them settle in their positions.

  • Comment 5, posted at 11.04.11 19:40:31 by Danman110 Reply

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  • As above, it seems that the selectors will be going for the “tried and tested” approach when selecting the RWC squad. If this is what will happen, I cannot see us bringing the cup home. :cry:

    If I was Bok coach, or a selector, my squad would be: *drum roll*
    1 Beast
    2 Bissie
    3 CJ
    4 Bakkies
    5 Victor
    6 Brussow
    7 Burger
    8 Alberts
    9 Du Preez
    10 Lambie
    11 Hougaard
    12 JdV
    13 Fourie
    14 Pietersen
    15 F Steyn

    16 Smit – at hooker only
    17 WP Nel
    18 Bekker
    19 D Russouw
    20 R Pienaar
    21 M Steyn
    22 De Jongh

    23 BJ Botha
    24 Chilliboy
    25 F vd Merwe
    26 J Smith – if fit
    27 F Louw
    28 B Basson
    29 S Pretourious
    30 P Grant
    31 Adi Jacobs
    32 Mvovo

    Wadda yo think…

  • Comment 6, posted at 11.04.11 19:45:42 by Mole Reply

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  • Mole
    Dude, with all due respect CJ vd Linde is crap, was crap and will always be crap.
    And he can’t even make the Stormers run on team. Most overrated prop in SA imho.

  • Comment 7, posted at 11.04.11 20:03:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @Mole (Comment 6) : I think Jannie is our best het at TH, CJ doesn’t really cut it IMO. And Basson hasn’t done much to warrant his inclusion.

  • Comment 8, posted at 11.04.11 20:05:16 by Danman110 Reply

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  • Mole I prefer Jannie to cj who is a walking penalty and in my honest opinion way over rated and going on form I would replace grumpy vic with Bekker otherwise like your team

  • Comment 9, posted at 11.04.11 20:07:56 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Basson should be first choice left wing imho. Much better option their either Habana or Mvovo.

  • Comment 10, posted at 11.04.11 20:08:36 by wpw Reply
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  • If you leave Victor off it presents another, completely new problem. Who is going to captain? Burger, Du Preez or JdV? Id keep Victor and bring on Bekker in the 2nd half..

    Completely forgot about Aplon, he deserves his place, bravest rugby player on earth… Basson out..

    1 Beast
    2 Bissie
    3 Jannie
    4 Bakkies
    5 Victor (c)
    6 Brussow
    7 Burger
    8 Alberts
    9 Du Preez
    10 Lambie
    11 Hougaard
    12 JdV (v/c)
    13 Fourie
    14 Pietersen
    15 F Steyn

    16 Smit – at hooker only
    17 WP Nel
    18 Bekker
    19 D Russouw
    20 R Pienaar
    21 M Steyn
    22 De Jongh

    23 BJ Botha
    24 Chilliboy
    25 F vd Merwe
    26 J Smith – if fit
    27 F Louw
    28 G Aplon
    29 S Pretourious
    30 P Grant
    31 Adi Jacobs
    32 Mvovo

  • Comment 11, posted at 11.04.11 20:14:45 by Mole Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 10) : If we are keeping the kick and chase gameplan then he must stay on the wing because he is sublime under the highball but for a running gameplan I will take Aplon and JPP.I would also like to see him get more gametime at fullback because our only option is F Steyn and Sideshow Bob.

  • Comment 12, posted at 11.04.11 20:21:13 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @Mole (Comment 11) : No Guthro Steenkamp?

  • Comment 13, posted at 11.04.11 20:27:35 by Ben Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 10) : Habana must go to the WC. He hasn’t shone of late, but no howlers either. Which SA wing other than JPP has shone?

    Mvovo offers much more than Basson, who is a little guy who is just good on the high ball. I need more than that from a wing.

  • Comment 14, posted at 11.04.11 20:29:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • It’s too early in the season to get stressed out about form and who’s going and who isn’t going. Anyway the whole point of making use of a 4-year core team approach is that at the end of the 4th year YOU PICK THE CORE TEAM!!! :razz:

    Right now I’m far more interested to know who the mysterious overlooked flyhalf in France is/was?

    Sharon I loved your line: “playing it by the book, the whole book and nothing but the book and discovering it was a book the Reds had already read”.

  • Comment 15, posted at 11.04.11 21:24:33 by beet Reply
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  • Haha Sharon , i sleep better after reading these articles, all i need now is warm milk and cookies :D
    V funny :)

    I wonder what effect playing a heavy flank and lock behind john smit would do for him at th?

    So a forward pack of;
    1.Beast
    2.Bismarc-Fetch
    3.Jsmit
    4.Bakkies
    5.Victor
    6.Alberts
    7.Smith/Burger
    8.Rossouw- world cup winning 8 ,worth a shot again as other 8s are not playing well. My only concern would be mobility

  • Comment 16, posted at 11.04.11 21:24:50 by Talent Reply
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  • I think 10 has to be butch …
    SBW + Butch =R.I.P butch and SBW

  • Comment 17, posted at 11.04.11 21:27:17 by Talent Reply
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  • Anyway night all

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  • Sharon,

    Well done on putting your up todate photo. Was wondering when you would eventually do that ;-) Always remember you saying we live for the now, before your op. So yeah, great to see the photo of you right now. You a lovely lady Sharon. Just so you know.
    ;-) :cool:

  • Comment 19, posted at 11.04.11 21:41:25 by Puma Reply

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  • My feeling PdV has his players already. Only a few others will get a nod to go. Pity as we should be selecting the players inform. Also on merit.

    Still think we don’t have the coaches. Not any of the 3 are capable right now. Just hoping they get in some help.

    Most Boks will come from Bulls. I for one hope they start to play up to date rugby. But have a horror feeling for this world cup we might not even make it out our pool, if we play the kick and chase game.

    Anyhow a few months still to go.

    Is my glass half full??? No for now it is empty for our Boks. :sad: We had better get our act together. None of our franchises are playing the rugby that will win us the world cup. Sharks come the closest to it. But we need all the franchises to be playing the same style.

    Go Boks. Just hoping not expecting much.

  • Comment 20, posted at 11.04.11 21:56:20 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 19) : Thank you! You’ve put a big fat smile on my face! :mrgreen: You charmer you! :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 11.04.11 21:57:18 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 15) : I wasn’t thinking of anyone in particular with the France comment, but it seems to me that there’s a bit of a thing for anyone who feels hard-done by by the Bok selectors to pack up and heads off to the land of garlic and snails… So it was more euphemism than anything else, I guess! :razz:

  • Comment 22, posted at 11.04.11 22:01:33 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 22) : Thanks for the help Sharon. You probably figured this out before me but I’m pretty slowed up.

  • Comment 23, posted at 11.04.11 22:05:36 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 23) : No worries beetie, me old mate. Now I come to think of it, there’s probably a touch of Frans Steyn influencing the “old goat” even though he’s not, strictly speaking, a true blue Bok flyhalf!

  • Comment 24, posted at 11.04.11 22:30:50 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 1) : What? Men who stare at goats? I loved it! Especially because it was all true! :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 11.04.11 22:35:25 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Big Fish
    We’ve had this discussion before and I guess we just agree. I rate Basson more than I do Mvovo. Bjorn is a class winger and proved he can score loads of tries and is brilliant under the high ball. Mvovo can make something out of nothing and is stronger I suppose but his defense is suspect.
    Watch the Saders game again and you’ll see what I’m talking about! :)

  • Comment 26, posted at 11.04.11 22:44:12 by wpw Reply
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  • All I can say is thanks goodness that most of you lot aren’t Bok selectors. You can’t win a WC on NZ soil without going for experienced and proven performers. On what basis are you going to pick on form? Current Super 15 form? Form should be judged over a long period of time and at a certain level…not just who plays well 2 weeks on a trot or even 1 good season. If you pick on this basis, you’ll be chopping and changing the team every week. It’s also been proven time and again that you get certain players that are great 1 season but are found out in their 2nd season. The opposition suss them out and are able to nullify their strengths.

    One of Jake White’s biggest strengths was his consistency in selection. He was CLEAR upfront who he wanted in his team/squad and he gave them every opportunity to gel as a team. Only making changes when really necessary.

    Yes I know as Sharks fans we are biased against the Bulls players but come WC time we will be supporting the Bok team no matter who is selected.

  • Comment 27, posted at 11.04.11 23:11:08 by Villie Reply
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  • I think we will get a clearer picture of how selections will go when PdV announces his Captain in May. (not sure of the exact date)

    If it is Queen Victoria then we will see Meisiekind and Steyn in the starting Line up with Spies at 8 and we will be screwed.

    If he goes with Smit, I’m hoping it will mean there will be less biased selection towards the failing old gaurd from the Bulls.

    let’s face it though it is only really the Bulls’ RWC players who have a form problem, the Stormers’ guys are doing well.

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.04.11 08:39:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Thank you Sharon. I always wondered how the team was selected due to the complete lack of logic. Glad you cleared it up for me… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.04.11 08:57:20 by Viking Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 25) : I knew you were a bit of an out of the box type, but that movie was just weird, true or not. Great article and one that provokes a lot of thought, TO BE OR NOT TO BE….. The Boks selectors will take all the old guys and we will not defend our world cup, is my prediction. Alas the people who make these decisions will not be brave enough and to be quite honest, it is already too late to change now. My prediction will be an Aussie/Kiwi final and the Kiwis will kick arse and become the third Southern Hemisphere nation to earn the rights to wear 2 cups on their sleeves. My biggest worry is that the bloody Aussies catch the Kiwis choking and take the bragging rights, I cannot cope with them having 3 cups on their sleeve, and that twit O’Neill gloating in the background as he does, whenever they have some success!!

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.04.11 09:23:25 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 30) : Anyone but the kiwis and I’ll be happy.

    4 MORE YEARS!!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.04.11 09:30:16 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 31) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : He wont dump Smit who will pick the team?? Sorry thats naughty. I reckon Villie is right to a certain extent, we need experience to win it, but we also need some fresh faces to ignite them. I want to see Lambie play at flyhalf, my only worry is his ability to kick under pressure. My center choice would be Div and Fourie and my wings would he JPP and Habana, conservative yes, but why change, not one other wing has excited me this season, to warrant the axing of Habana. Fourie would be my scrummie and I would have Kirshner as my fullback. Frans Steyn would have been my choice, but I have not seen or heard anything about him to warrant him making the team. Forwards well that is a difficult choice, Front row would be Beast Bissie and Jannie, Locks would be Big Vic and Botha, yes I would leave Bekker on the bench. Loosies who knows, Alberts would be the first name I would write down together with Schalk and ???. I would have Spies on the bench. What to do with Smit, a big problem?? We need him on that field, but where do you play him??

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.04.11 09:46:32 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) : Agree with you about Bekker – he’s got a “moer my gesig” and is just as big a citing liability as Bakkies! Every time I see him I just want to klap him! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.04.11 10:42:48 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Eish i thought our one and only Morne was a lover of writting but i see our only SVW is toping all, :lol:

    great one Sharon :smile:

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.04.11 10:47:42 by chaz Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 33) You just don’t like him, because he messed his wife around, be honest now :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.04.11 10:48:08 by Whindy Reply
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  • :lol: Nice read Sharon.

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.04.11 10:57:39 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 35) : Did he? Well that just confirms it for me then! :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.04.11 11:49:04 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 37) : on a public park bench with a student nogal.

    Not only is he a cheat he is a DUMB cheat. The small head has no logic and he is to DUMB to know it.

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.04.11 11:54:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : Oh yes, wasn’t that splattered all over Huis Genoot? A real cupid stunt, that one! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.04.11 11:56:57 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 39) : Hehehehe Cupid set him up for the fall with a stunt like that. :wink:

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.04.11 12:02:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 40) : I love spoonerisms… let you get away with murder, they do! :razz:

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.04.11 12:06:49 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 41) : very clever :shock: :shock:

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.04.11 12:27:42 by Whindy Reply
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  • just of the topic…

    did anyone see the flyhalf of ikeys play last night? really underrated… brilliant option at goal, good distribution and for a small lad, he sure puts in quite a few tackles…

    anyone got background on the boy?? kiriakis or something…

  • Comment 43, posted at 12.04.11 12:37:59 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 41) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 12.04.11 12:40:24 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) : Habana??????? U must be joking !

  • Comment 45, posted at 12.04.11 13:16:03 by franshark Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 41) : I don’t have enough dictionaries in my house to read all of the post, what language is it any ways? :) great writing Sharon we all are hoping but do know the expired players are going to the wc…..

  • Comment 46, posted at 12.04.11 14:22:37 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 46) : :lol: Cheers, franshark! Translations by appointment only! :razz:
    Expired is a good word because it means dead as well as past-it! There are quite a few “dead” players out there at the moment, playing like zombies…! :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 12.04.11 15:01:46 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 41) : You won’t believe that (well some might) it took me more than a week to figure out “Toe HAK die KAAS” :oops:

  • Comment 48, posted at 12.04.11 15:13:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : And it took me all of just reading your comment to figure it out! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: And they say blondes are stupid! tsk!tsk!

  • Comment 49, posted at 12.04.11 15:26:44 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 48) : Is it something about rabbit pooh? :lol:

  • Comment 50, posted at 12.04.11 15:28:37 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 50) : You see…. ;-)

  • Comment 51, posted at 12.04.11 15:31:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 50) : And then there is “Toe HOEP die POENDER” :)

    That one I got immediately, with me being so familiar with flatulance. :razz:

  • Comment 52, posted at 12.04.11 15:59:46 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 12.04.11 16:02:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : You old fart, you! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 54, posted at 12.04.11 17:02:50 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 54) : PFFFFFFffffffft. ;-)

  • Comment 55, posted at 12.04.11 17:30:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 55) : :mrgreen: I knew it, just a load of hot air in there! :roll:

  • Comment 56, posted at 12.04.11 17:35:26 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Great article by the way Sharon. Really well written. enjoyed it!

  • Comment 57, posted at 12.04.11 23:33:42 by Villie Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 32) : Can you recall the mid year test we played against Wales in Wales? Steyn, although off the pace performed well enough. The second he went off the “in-form” Zane conceded a try. I would rather play a cannon boot with defense.

  • Comment 58, posted at 13.04.11 07:38:22 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 58) : I agree, do not like Krusty at all! He is one dimensional and very predictable.

  • Comment 59, posted at 13.04.11 07:47:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 58) : @Ben (Comment 59) : Krusty cannot run the ball to save his life. Whenever he takes th ball up he starts stepping left and right about 50 meters before he gets to the opposition. He he is doing is breaking his own speed and allowing the opposition to tackle him backwards.

    Now Aplon on the other hand has some skills. Given he does not have a boot like Fransie but he can be very dangerous on counter attack. He can step, has speed, can defend and his kicking may not be the longest but it is accurate. At this stage I would select him at 15 for the bokke but also only because I haven’t seen Steyn play since the bokke.

  • Comment 60, posted at 13.04.11 08:00:18 by Viking Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 60) : Nope. Review the Stormers-Reds game and you will see exactly why you cannot play a small 15. He wasn’t able to compete the highball at all simply because he is too much of a light weight – he got pushed of the ball’s trajectory by the competing jumper everytime. That won’t happen to a 100+kg 15. Steyn is the man.

  • Comment 61, posted at 13.04.11 08:21:56 by King Shark Reply
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  • A further case for Frans Steyn – he can drop from his own 10m. If he misses the opposition is still pinned in their own 22.

  • Comment 62, posted at 13.04.11 08:23:31 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 62) : But how has his recent form been? Aplon may be a light weight but he has been very reliable under the high ball in the past. Lets not criticize him on one game where did not have a great game under the high ball. You partner him with the likes of JPP and Odwa in tha back and that problem is sorted.

    But another 60m drop goal would be nice as well. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 63, posted at 13.04.11 08:26:56 by Viking Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 61) : @King Shark (Comment 62) : I take it then that we are in agreement that Krusty is not the man for the job?

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  • @Viking (Comment 64) : Krusty should play Vodacom Cup.

    Aplon should go on tour and maybe ride the bench.

    Frans should start every game until his retirement.

  • Comment 65, posted at 13.04.11 08:30:03 by King Shark Reply
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    King SharkVodacom Cup player
     

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