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Sex may sell rugby, but is anyone buying?


Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Admin, Original Content, RWC 2011 on 15 Apr 2011 at 17:55
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The role of sex in rugby has been thrust into the spotlight this week, and all indications are that it could change the way South Africa’s rugby viewing public watch the sport and even affect the nation’s participation at this year’s Rugby World Cup in New Zealand.

Ah. I see I’ve gotten your attention then with that famous little three-lettered word and a carefully constructed but very ambiguous intro par? Tricks of the trade, I’m afraid. They’re called hooks and have been used to make people buy, and read newspapers for generations.

In this case my hook has been crafted to appeal to the lowest common denominator across the globe – the male libido. Sex sells, friends and gentlefolk out there in Sharksworld-land. It’s a fact not lost on our dear friends over at SuperSport, but one which is bound to be completely lost on their soon-to-be-crowned “Lady Rugga”.

Yes. The sex scandal of which I speak is the abomination which is SuperSport’s “search” for its first female rugby presenter. My dear friend and Sharksworld Soul Sister Ice has done an excellent expose on this shocking fiasco in her post “Will the REAL Lady Rugga please stand up…” Now I’d like to add my thruppence-worth by taking the (undoubtedly) male brains which thought this particular travesty of justice and slap in the face to any self-respecting female rugby fan to the cleaners, metaphorically speaking, of course.

I will start by asking a question: How did Darren Scott get his job as a rugby presenter for SuperSport? I will answer it by saying how he DIDN’T get the job… He didn’t have to queue for hours at an open casting session, be judged by someone who can’t spell the word “scrum” and proclaimed knowledgable in all matters rugby, give a 30 second disseration on why he would like to be a SuperSport presenter, look like a supermodel and have an IQ smaller than his shoesize. Darren got where he is because he knows his rugby onions and has considerable experience in the media.

So can somebody please tell me why, when SuperSport rugby finally wakes up to the fact that it is seriously lacking in the sex department – and by that I mean specifically the FAIRER sex department (not counting Bob Skinstad, of course) – it doesn’t use the same criteria to select an outstanding, knowledgable and experienced (or at the very least naturally gifted) woman presenter? Instead we are being treated to “Lady Rugga” – the tits and bums approach to rugby commentary.

South African rugby is a world dominated by testosterone and male egos. But it’s underpinned by some amazing, intelligent, dedicated and infinitely knowledgable women who have spent years on the sidelines as spectators, mothers of players, girlfriends, wives, sisters and (all too rarely) as part of the infrastructure behind the scenes at club, provincial and national level.

Then there are women like me, who love writing about the sport they are so passionate about but who battle to get jobs as rugby reporters or correspondents in the mainstream media because they have boobs instead of pecs and are thus objectified as a result. We, the women of South African rugby, deserve much more from SuperSport, which is the country’s premier sports broadcaster. And you, the viewers, certainly deserve more than this pathetic attempt at aiming for the mass market in the run-up to the RWC.

Why on earth didn’t SuperSport save its money, ditch the phoney “Lady Rugga” selection process and just hire a vapid bimbo with huge assets to drape herself suggestively all over the podium and players at every game, because it is evident to me and to everyone else out there with half a brain cell that the eventual incumbent of said presenter’s chair will not have been picked for any other reason than her looks. Unless, of course, the casting couch is still in use?

Come on SuperSport. Stop the subterfuge. Just own up to being sexist and let’s all be done with it. Lady Rugga is the biggest insult you could possibly hand out to the South African rugby viewing public who actually want presenters who know that scrums can’t be deliberately wheeled and that even in his wildest dreams Frans Steyn could never be mistaken for Patrick Lambie!

Like my noted Sharksworld colleague Morne, I am glad Ice did not get anywhere at the place which used to be called Ellis Park but is now a soft-drink sales pitch instead of a rugby stadium. She’s the real deal. Not a fake. And that’s what Lady Rugga will always be – a couple of bits of plastic (or silicone) and a pouting mouth which likes to speak into a microphone. The blow-up doll of South African rugby.

Pass the footpump, asseblief… :mrgreen:



93 Comments

  • couldn’t have said it better.

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.04.11 19:06:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • I hope they find some one who can hold their own ,knows the game

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.04.11 19:37:05 by Talent Reply
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  • From a marketing point of view ,its a risk ! The audience is predominantly male ,they could have a negative response to the presenter if she cant hold her own in rugby knowledge

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.04.11 19:39:01 by Talent Reply
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  • I must be a pretty intelligent male then, coz if you are dumb and are trying to present rugby then you suck no matter what sex you are.

    There was/is a blonde female a while ago I (I can’t remember her name or URL) who was trying to gain recognition by prancing around in a bikini giving reviews or maybe previews of Super rugby games.

    OH MY WORD WAS SHE DOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We actually posted a you tube link or two of hers on here taking the piss out of the poor wannabe.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.04.11 19:50:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Ah it’s as simple as typing “bikini rugby” into Youtube and Walla!!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLZgSwBRu_M

    Sorry girl but you are as thick as pigshit put your clothes back on and find a real job.

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.04.11 19:53:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 2) : From what Ice mentioned it seems unlikely they will. :(

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.04.11 19:54:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 3) : As it has with this dunce in the Bikini. :oops:

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.04.11 19:56:00 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • SVW – Very insightful. Reading you always inspires me to improve my writing craft. HH :cool:

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.04.11 00:17:27 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Very well put Shaz! Screw Supersport, I don’t like them in anyway.

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.04.11 02:49:32 by Ben Reply
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  • Life’s not fair.

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.04.11 08:31:49 by McLovin Reply

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  • Sharon, if you’re looking for banal chauvinistic behavious in SA Rugby look no further that the Natal rugby union with their ‘shark girls’ that waltz on to the field with trench coats on only to reveal themselves in scanty underwear in front of that smarmy SHARKY mascot of yours!

    What part of rugby is that?

    In a wrap up of the 2009 season, Rod Kafer, when asked what was his highlight of the year? he responded, with the requisite cheeky smile on his face ‘the H girl of the Shark girls’ and then the showed an insert of the said H girl showing her goodies!

    Go Sharksssssss :D

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.04.11 08:41:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • Hardly a scandal imo. They way it was marketed should have been the first big clue has to what it was about.

    And it’s not only Supersport. Check female sports presenters the world over. Find me the fatty and/or old one.

    I don’t agree with it, but that’s the way it is.

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.04.11 08:46:14 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : I fail to see what value any of those pom-pom waving women add.

    Never have I ever heard a fan, man or woman, say that if there aren’t any pom-pom poppies, then they’re not going. :grin:

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.04.11 08:50:01 by McLovin Reply

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  • ‘boobs instead of pecs’?

    Or boobs instead of moobs? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.04.11 08:52:23 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 13) :
    Hey you are just jealous because ours are something to look at. ;-)

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.04.11 11:18:00 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • While this is an article that kind of hits a nerve, it does sort of lose it’s impact when written by the same person who can, in meet the bloggers, say “But Natal were a much prettier team. The choice was a no-brainer. I have always been a sucker for a pretty face!”

    :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.04.11 11:55:11 by Greg Reply

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  • Anyone ever heard or seen Zeena Issacs on the TV on SABC,sort of pours cold water on (only pretty bimbos on rugga)!!

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.04.11 15:11:04 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • @ruggabugga (Comment 17) : Nope. never seen her.

    is she not pretty or not a bimbo?

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.04.11 15:20:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Sharon, as a copywriter myself, I must compliment you on your writing. Top class stuff as usual. And I totally agree that SuperSport is run to cater for the alpha-male deadbeats out there.

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.04.11 21:12:47 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Ksa def not a bimbo nor a looker but knows her stuff and on sabc who possibly have a different agenda to that of bloopersport!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.04.11 23:32:02 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • Wtf??

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.04.11 00:53:07 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • SuperSport needs to hire well spoken and genuine rugby analysts like Garth Wright and John Robbie. I would much prefer their input than the ever cringeworthy Naas Botha and Joel Stransky.

    Bobby Skinflap is just going through the motions to appeal to what he thinks SuperSport viewers want to hear…he’s weak and too mainstream.

    I admire opinion that gets the viewers off their chairs and listening. John Robbie shoots from the hip and you cannot get more controversial…but he always makes sense no matter how unpopular the view is.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.04.11 10:48:15 by Predawn Reply

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  • Anybody seen Ilaria D’Amico the Italian sports presenter, sorry Sharon if Supersport find something as good looking as that, they are on to a winner, as you say sex sells and if they look like that, I would happily watch her talking shit about rugby, Oh dear I will probably be labeled, uncle Pervy, but it would beat having to watch some of these other ugly twits, talking just as much crap as lady Rugga. By your own and Ice’s admission you guys are not averse to a little eye candy!! :mrgreen: @ruggabugga (Comment 20) : Ruggabagga, becareful what you wish for Supersport is amazing when it comes to content, you should live in the UAE, you would beg for supersport

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.04.11 10:54:40 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 23) : The Italian Lady IS gorgeous, and while I can’t speak Italian it does LOOK like she know what she is talking about.

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.04.11 10:58:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Predawn (Comment 22) : predawn you are kidding me Garth Wright is the worst rugby commentator or comments guy they have ever had!! Bob Skinstad is very insightful and the best they have at the moment, he is current and is able to describe what the guys are going through etc. I agree with you about John Robbie he is thought provoking, but that is what he does for a living!!

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.04.11 10:59:07 by Whindy Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) : Who cares what she says. HA-HA

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.04.11 10:59:51 by Whindy Reply
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  • @Whindy (Comment 26) : That’s why I said LOOKS like she knows what she is talking about. :)

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.04.11 11:02:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) :lol:

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.04.11 11:06:45 by Whindy Reply
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  • Ice, I must add that I think you would have been perfect for the Job, good Knowledge, a stirrer of note and good looking as well!! But never sell your soul for something that is not worth it!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.04.11 12:12:03 by Whindy Reply
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  • Whindy I refer to bloobersport in the context of Naas bull bias and Joel anti sharks,look at true professionalism at Sky Sport and notice presenters are mostly women , eye candy and not but certainly know their thing and ex players are simply guests and not hosts,the pics and game angles are also far superior just look at the saders/sharks game for proof thereof…

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.04.11 12:31:18 by ruggabugga Reply

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  • Bob Skinflap is an asskissing yesman. His views are unoriginal and predictable…zzzzzzz.

    Joel Stransky actually described a try yesterday as “Fabulous!” No man says the word fabulous unless he’s a pooftah.

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.04.11 20:06:10 by Predawn Reply

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  • Thanks for the vote of confidence! Appreciate Soul Sista! ;-)

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.04.11 20:49:37 by Ice Reply
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  • Good morning all. May all of u SW bloggers have a blessed week. This week we celebrate the most important week on the christian calender. May you, in some way or another experience love joy and piece within this week.

  • Comment 33, posted at 18.04.11 07:18:55 by franshark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 27) : Good for that Spanish chick but okes, i think the point Sharon is making here is that to make the audition process for a South African woman commentator into some silly kind of pageant format is just insulting to the majority of whom have a passion for the game, and it shows that we’re a bit backwards in this country.

  • Comment 34, posted at 18.04.11 09:11:14 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 12) : True, and by going along to queue these women put the power in the hands of the idiots who run cattle shows. If all the sisters band together and boycot this type of rubbish, if we insist on proper auditions after being vetted perhaps via some application form, it would send the message, but nooo, “we” are all too willing to “play along” and, afterwards, moan in our chardonay-glasses when things turn out exactly as it was pitched in the first place. ;-)

  • Comment 35, posted at 18.04.11 11:56:00 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 35) : Boycott is the only way to stop this, but can’t see it happening. Problem is if you’re one of the pretty young ones, there’s potentially plenty of money to be made. And sponsors love a pretty face on their posters.

    Would love to be able to get a job based purely on my looks. Unfortunately not much of a market for over 35, fat, balding models. :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 36, posted at 18.04.11 12:19:32 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 36) : Yep, it’ll never stop. One merely has to look at the number of kiddies being put through their paces at pageants to realise that money comes before wellfare for some parents :shock:
    AND, I’ll vote for you even though you’re on the wrong side of 30, have no silky tresses and is somewhat non-anorexic (tip for free – do NOT wear horizontal stripes – they make one look “fatter) :roll: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 37, posted at 18.04.11 12:48:36 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 37) : Thanks. :mrgreen:

    Oh, and the less I say about kiddy pageants the better. Lets just say I’m certainly not a fan. :|

  • Comment 38, posted at 18.04.11 12:52:13 by McLovin Reply

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  • Great Articles on this demeaning ‘Lady Rugga’ competition by both Sharon and Ice – Well said Ladies!

    I cringe at the thought of ‘what’ we are going to end up with considering the fact that one of the judges is Warren Brosnian.

    Not only is he our countries most irritating commentator but is the least knowledgeable as well. I can picture him being put to shame by both Ice and Sharon on all matters ‘rugby’, and only putting candidates through based on all the wrong reasons.

    In short a judge who has delusions of adequacy.

  • Comment 39, posted at 18.04.11 13:33:41 by Panache Reply

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  • Slightly of topic but does anyone know for how long Grant will be out?

  • Comment 40, posted at 18.04.11 13:44:22 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 40) : Yes, slightly. I have read that he should be ready for the Sharks match.

  • Comment 41, posted at 18.04.11 13:49:18 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 41) : Haha thanks Bud.

  • Comment 42, posted at 18.04.11 13:52:34 by Ben Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 38) : My eldest is doing modelling and competes only in the Modelling schools internal competition of Model of the Year – she has participated in one beauty pageant – but it was for charity – for a good cause. I alos dont like it when they wear more make-up than the cracks in my house has pollifilla! A little maskara and lipgloss. Other than that, I will not let her participate – I see it as Mom’s living out their wishes through their kids at all costs. But in my case it’s not necessary – have a few titles behind my own name – TYVM! :mrgreen:

    When and if she is interested , she can ask me to take her.

    BTW – The YOU had an article about a 7 yr old a few weeks back – its absolutely disgusting – at first glance, I thought it was a girl with this “old peoples” syndrom when they age by 9 or so years every year…

  • Comment 43, posted at 18.04.11 14:08:35 by Ice Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 16) : Touche, Greg. Hoist with my own petard, as they used to say. But there is a slight problem with your line of thinking. When I chose to support Natal I was fresh off the plane from Blighty, new to rugger and knew diddly squat about it. I had no other way of deciding who to support than relying on my predisposition for “pretty boys”! I got lucky (for want of a better phrase) because Natal happened to be a fine rugby team as well as a fine-looking rugby team.
    Now I am betting that the majority of people who watch SuperSport rugby are not complete rugby greenhorns, and would be a little more discerning than I originally was when faced with the prospect of who to select as “MY” team.
    All these years later, I stand by my decision to choose the boys in Black and White, but thankfully can now base my support on talent of a different kind! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 44, posted at 18.04.11 16:47:46 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • The other point I wanted to make in this article is that by taking this particular route to select their new female rugby presenter, SuperSport is opening itself up to serious flack when the time comes for it to find a new MALE rugby presenter, because in order to be completely equitable and non-discriminatory it will have to launch the search for “Mr Rugga” and use the self-same process to find the next male “face” of South African rugby presenting.
    If it’s good enough for the gooses, SuperSport, it’s definitely good enough for the ganders… :evil:

  • Comment 45, posted at 18.04.11 16:52:22 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 43) : TYVM?

  • Comment 46, posted at 18.04.11 17:11:33 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 46) : thank you very much…with loads of attitude! :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 18.04.11 17:38:29 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 47) : I see… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 18.04.11 18:06:39 by McLovin Reply

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  • This could be awesome. Maybe she will pour a couple pints while doing the post match presentation. amazing news :twisted:

  • Comment 49, posted at 18.04.11 20:55:34 by soutie Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 45) : sharon, get off your high horse. Supersport has just finished running a ‘contest’ of the same nature to find the next ‘football commentator’ – GOALMOUTH. Guys & GIRLS had to audition and get critiqued by the likes of gary bailey, terry paine, thabiso tema, robert marawa etc for their knowledge of the game & fluidity in presenting a fast paced game & obviously originality.

    4 candidates are left and the public have been voting for the winner. I asked you earlier if you’ve ever complained or boycotted Sharks games because of the scantily clad women who expose themselves before every Sharks game to that mascot of yours!

    That there is exploitation of women in its most blatant form! Hypocrite?

  • Comment 50, posted at 18.04.11 20:55:51 by Megatron Reply

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  • in fact, i think south africa is the only country that has women showing the butt cheeks on the sideline at rugby matches. I’ve certainly never seen such in New Zealand or in England.

  • Comment 51, posted at 18.04.11 20:59:19 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : Ai ai Megatroll! It happens in NZ and Aus just as much, they also have dancers before the game! To compare Lady Rugga with the mascott dancers are just plain silly, its entirely different. Lady Rugga will need to know something about rugby because she will be talking about rugby. Where the Dancers only dance in front of the camera where no rugby knowledge is required. Your argument makes no sense at all boet! ;)

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.04.11 21:08:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 50) : Just by the way, the goal mouth winner has been chosen already. Clearly you haven’t been to a strip club in your life, that’s what I would call exploitation of women in its most blatant form!

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.04.11 21:25:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : Ben, is my argument any more ridiculous than this intro “The role of sex in rugby has been thrust into the spotlight this week, and all indications are that it could change the way South Africa ’s rugby viewing public watch the sport and even affect the nation’s participation at this year’s Rugby World Cup in New Zealand.”?

    Come on Ben, sharon’s article is absurd! Did you also not see that Supersport was running the GOALMOUTH commentator search competition or are you conviniently sidestepping that one? ;)

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.04.11 21:30:23 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 53) : yes, i have never been to a strip club, but this is not about is it? :D

    skynz have melodie robinson as a female rugby analyst/commentator, she’s a former rugby player, played blindside flank, double world cup winner with the silver ferns and she knows he story, supersport could’ve gone that way but they clearly wanted something to pique the interest of women going towards RWC 2011. And they can do it of they wanna!

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.04.11 21:37:01 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 55) : Exactly what you are saying there, Sky NZ has someone who actually knows something about rugby. And that is what we want supersport to do. They already have enough commentators(analysts) at supersport that doesn’t know snap at rugby. Its unfair to chose a woman with looks over a woman that actually knows a lot about rugby. The Sharks flasher girls and those girls are doing nothing wrong, their job prescription does not need them to know anything about rugby. So it doesn’t have anything to do with lady rugga. The dancers entertain the crowd before the game and are contracted to a union, where lady rugga will be contracted to Supersport and its not her job to entertain people. She has to analyse and commentate on what happens on the field.

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.04.11 21:45:35 by Ben Reply
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  • has the woman been chosen already? Why is everyone jumping the gun with presumptions that they are going to select a ditzy buxom blonde who doesn’t know her blindside from her openside?

    Calm the f*ck down

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.04.11 22:11:19 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 57) : Whatever dude. Losing our cool there are we?

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.04.11 22:14:39 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 58) : nah, just making a point ;)

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.04.11 23:03:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 59) : Haha okay if that is what you want to call it. :)

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.04.11 23:09:00 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 50) : The Flasher Girls, Sharks Dancers etc. Are there for the explicit reason of providing eye candy. THEY were not lead to believe that they need rugby knowledge to apply for the position. In short they are under no illusions as to what their job description is.

    @Megatron (Comment 51) : Best you go and check out the NZ and AUS websites more often, expecially considering you are a Crusaders fan.

  • Comment 61, posted at 19.04.11 07:22:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : Since when has Megatron had to make sense. :razz:

  • Comment 62, posted at 19.04.11 07:24:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 62) : :)

  • Comment 63, posted at 19.04.11 07:35:26 by Ben Reply
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  • Maybe I should write an article about my experience at the Lady Ragga auditions.

  • Comment 64, posted at 19.04.11 10:48:00 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 64) : Did you get my message? How did it go? Hope you nailed them!

  • Comment 65, posted at 19.04.11 10:50:10 by Ice Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 64) : if your experience were contriray to ours…rather not – you’ll just throw our theory on this out the window! :lol:

    I see however on the FB Lady Rugga page alot of girls are moaning about being only one judge and why some people get different treatment from different people…see also they have extended the auditions…another CC park one coming up..

  • Comment 66, posted at 19.04.11 10:52:47 by Ice Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 64) : It would be interesting to compare your experience to Ice’s.

  • Comment 67, posted at 19.04.11 10:52:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 65) : Haven’t been able to access my mail, but I’ll get back to you as soon as I do.

  • Comment 68, posted at 19.04.11 10:55:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 67) : Hey, if everyone’s not bored of it already, then I’ll try to have something up later today. It just depends how busy I’ll be at work.

  • Comment 69, posted at 19.04.11 10:57:13 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 66) : It won’t throw your theory completely out of the window, but it will have a different angle on the same theory. How does that sound?

  • Comment 70, posted at 19.04.11 10:58:21 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 70) : Bring it on! I am sure there will be different angles to this! Your experience could be quite different from mine!

  • Comment 71, posted at 19.04.11 11:00:06 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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  • looking forward to what Letgo will say on auditions.

    I am quite surprisingly with Magatron on this one. Lady Rugga has not been picked yet and there is nothing to say that she will be a silly thing without any rugby knowledge.

    Part of me also feels that slamming the whole event is a bit unfair to all he ladies who are really passionate about rugby and decided to participate in it. I think it was quite clear that it will be sort of reality show from the start.

  • Comment 72, posted at 19.04.11 12:13:22 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 72) : Reks – my article was based on MY personal experience as well as what assumptions I could make of it. However – I am certainly not the only one who has had a similar experience – if you see what is written on the LR FB page – you will see a lot of people do not think that judging etc was fair.

    If you read my column on it again – you will se that I said I would do it again – but then everyone must be treated the same. eg. Same questions asked, same opportunity and same amount of judges. One person might not like your face for instance – sounds silly but thats reality – it happens.

    So I dont blast the whole thing per se – just the way in which it was done.

    But I have to agree – why when male’s have to audition – you are not asked for “camera friendly” people to apply?

    Another point: Why do some pretty girls (and for which I know for a fact has NO clue about rugby) gotten through to the next round? If someone can answer THAT, then I’ll accept it in some sort of way.

    There are just TOO many red lights in this whole thing that does not add up. I will have NO problem with a model who know’s her rugga – but then she must be given the same opportunity as a male presenter too….And I will have no problem if it’s not such a camera friendly person, the point to me is – they must KNOW their rugby.

  • Comment 73, posted at 19.04.11 12:21:59 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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  • @Pr’Ice Flower (Comment 73) : wow, did I press something ;-)
    Life is not fair, but this we know. :lol:
    I liked your arti. Perhaps you should revisit my posts there.

    What I do not like however is this assumption in some of the posts under your and this arti that whoever chosen will be a “dumb blonde” and that the whole thing is some sort of injustice to females.

  • Comment 74, posted at 19.04.11 12:48:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 74) : Are those post pressing a button?? :twisted: :lol: Just kidding.

    yeah I know what you mean. I think they just wanted to be kind to me! ;-)

    Like I said – I really hope this pans out well for whomever gets this, pretty or not – as long as I can listen to this lady and she can make some sense! (And not being told what to say either)

    The whole “idea” on getting this lady and ‘unfairness’ where screening etc are concerned, gives this a bitter taste though.

  • Comment 75, posted at 19.04.11 13:00:19 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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  • @Pr’Ice Flower (Comment 75) : Perhaps :lol: I am of a strong opinion that G-sharks can look after themselves quite well by themselves :mrgreen:

    I was reading an article in one newspaper that posed an interesting question – what do persons who actually study to become presenters/ journalists think of such competitions.

    And you know… I think that it really would be nice if a presenter is presentable as well. I know that it would eliminate a lot of them outright but as a principle I am sure one would prefer to listen to / look at Danny boy than for example Phil Waugh ;-)

  • Comment 76, posted at 19.04.11 13:14:35 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 76) : perhaps it would make it even more enjoyable, but for now I am happy with the likes of the big the fat and the ugly! Just kidding!!!

  • Comment 77, posted at 19.04.11 13:30:29 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 76) : Where was that article?

  • Comment 78, posted at 19.04.11 13:34:54 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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  • @Pr’Ice Flower (Comment 78) : i think it was Saturday star.

  • Comment 79, posted at 19.04.11 13:41:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • None of the shouts of “hypocrite” or “stop moaning” in this thread changes the fact that if looks were a prerequisite for choosing rugby presenters then the majority of the men who grace our screens on a weekend would be out of a job. That being the case, why the hell should they be a prerequisite for “girls” applying for the same job?
    Presenting is a job which is steadily being deskilled by the broadcasters and their insistence on choosing faces over brains and the ability to deliver lines in a clearly understandable and well articulated voice.
    In days of old presenters wrote their own links and generally had a journalistic background. They understood the value of language and how it should be delivered. Today any Thomas, Richard or Harold can do the job, invariably badly. It makes a mockery of the whole medium. And of anyone involved in journalism.
    I have no doubt that there is some great talent among the entrants for “Lady Rugga”. And possibly some great future presenters. The issue I have is that the criteria being used to select them is preposterous and ridiculously sexist.
    I work in the industry in question in this thread and have done so for the best part of 30 years. “Lady Rugga” represents the very worst of what I do for a living. So forgive me for taking such a stance against it, but I have fought too long and hard to be chosen on merit for the job I do in spite of my sex, rather than because of it, to sit back and say nothing. :cool:

  • Comment 80, posted at 19.04.11 14:37:39 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 80) : Don’t get all worked up about it, it all falls on deaf ears if you know what I mean.

  • Comment 81, posted at 19.04.11 15:04:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 80) : You worked in the sex trade? :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 19.04.11 15:09:38 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) : How else would she have met Phill Collins??? :) :mrgreen:

    @SharonvanWyk (Comment 80) : ;)

  • Comment 83, posted at 19.04.11 15:11:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) : Chirp of the day – jy’s lekke pittig vir n Dinsdag :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 19.04.11 16:10:20 by diablo Reply

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  • Phil Collen, Ben! Def Leppard, not Genesis! Not THAT old! :D

  • Comment 85, posted at 19.04.11 16:18:30 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 84) : ;-)

  • Comment 86, posted at 19.04.11 16:27:44 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 85) : Haha sorry I didn’t have the correct spelling there! :)

  • Comment 87, posted at 19.04.11 16:36:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 82) : Eish, Pokkel… :roll: I’m a flyhalf, not a hooker! :lol:

  • Comment 88, posted at 19.04.11 17:26:03 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 88) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 89, posted at 20.04.11 08:21:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : Sorry that I only add this now but Tron, have a look at the below link of the Canes official website. No girls showing their behinds at the crowd in NZ? I think not…

    http://www.hurricanes.co.nz/cheerleaders

  • Comment 90, posted at 20.04.11 11:24:28 by Viking Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 90) : Let me go and check this out as well. Just to make sure. ;)

  • Comment 91, posted at 20.04.11 11:38:01 by Ben Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 90) : I am so going there next… :o

  • Comment 92, posted at 20.04.11 11:54:06 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 91) : @King Shark (Comment 92) :

    Keep it Real! I’m watching you…. :twisted:

  • Comment 93, posted at 20.04.11 12:03:30 by Pr'Ice Flower Reply
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