Big Fish

Sharks huff and puff to victory over the Cheetahs


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Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Sharks on 4 Jun 2011 at 19:44

Coaches often talk about “winning ugly” as a euphemism for victories won by sheer bloody-mindedness and sticking to the basics – leaving complex backline moves and fancy skills out the game. In that case, the Sharks’ display was reminiscent of Cinderella’s step-sisters today!

Not that they really stuck to the basics – this was also executed badly; especially in the first 40 minutes, when the Sharks floundered from one awful play to another, leaving the Cheetahs to play all the rugby.

It is fair to say that had Sias Ebersohn brought his kicking boots, and had Coenie Oosthuizen actually learnt how to scrum legally by now,  the Sharks would have been dead in the water by half-time, thanks to an inability to take line-outs or kick-offs, make first time tackles, catch passes and kick intelligently.  As it was, the Sharks would have been happy to go into half-time trailing by just 5 at 11-6.

They certainly played better in the second half, with the forwards notably applying themselves in the tight, starting to dominate the contact and compete strongly at the rucks. Coupled with this, Lambie seemed to grow in the game, and provided very good direction and decision-making on both defence and attack.

Lwazi  Mvovo showed why leaving him on the  bench is utter madness by scoring a scintillating try that left Cheetahs lying prone in his wake as he ran a good 60 meters to score, while Adi Jacobs did well to spot a mismatch against some forwards and launch a counter from his own 22, before passing to Bosman, who drew and passed to a flying JPP to score in the right corner.

This was the purple patch for the Sharks, as they spent most of the rest of the match defending like Trojans, conceding yellow cards against Daniel and a sub-par Mcleod in the process.  Some desperate defence prevented the Cheetahs pipping the Sharks at the end, despite a good score by Viljoen bringing the Cheetahs within 5 points with 2 minutes to play.

Meyer Bosman answered his critics with a great game on both defence and attack. Much more could have come from his endeavours had Oupa been running off his shoulder, as Bosman usually got his hands through the tackle. Both wings were great value whenever they got the ball, and Lambie was calm personified at flyhalf.

Less impressive were the locks, who were again largely anonymous, in addition to losing lineout ball and knocking on kick-offs, while Mcleod had a poor game, with some poor tactical kicking and puzzling delays at the base of the ruck.

All in all though, it was mission accomplished, and a step closer to a knock-out place – it still counts if you win ugly. 



151 Comments

  • Good point of view… :-)

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.06.11 19:53:02 by Charlie Reply
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  • whatever, i’ll take the 4 points and keep going. well done sharks

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.06.11 19:56:24 by RuckingFun Reply
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  • Now *that* is the kind of article I wish I could write; good work, Fish!

    That game was won by inviduals (Lambie, Mvovo, Jacobs and Coenie Oosthuisen, bless his incompetence) and not by the Sharks as a team.

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.06.11 19:58:00 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Spot on!

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.06.11 20:05:44 by Ice Reply
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  • @ Culling Song, and to think rugby is a team sport :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.06.11 20:20:15 by Charlie Reply

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  • Jacobs was sublime in setting up that last try

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.06.11 20:34:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • FISHHHHHH!!!! (Like beaaaaaaast!!) :) good report dude….

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.06.11 20:39:10 by franshark Reply
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  • Yes as culling song said individuals did win the game, as individuals can also loose a game… We did great on defence to keep the runners of the cheets out. They had opportunity’s galo to score, even in the first half when we were out of sorts. We scampered back and stopped onslaught after onslaught. Our faster more mobile loosy’s help a lot here….

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.06.11 20:47:54 by franshark Reply
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  • Great one Fish and spot on i must add :mrgreen:

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.06.11 20:50:27 by chaz Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 5) : thanks Adi for the line up of that try we did great in the 2nd half just think that if we woke up and played like that all round we would of had a great score, but 4 points is a good for me

    Thanks Sharks :mrgreen:

    next time don’t piss the Ref off MJ

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.06.11 20:53:06 by chaz Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 10) : I see that Elma Smit won the lady rugga job, hope its gonna pay diffidence

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.06.11 20:57:21 by franshark Reply
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  • @ Chaz, my pleasure ;-)

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.06.11 20:58:39 by Charlie Reply

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  • This was a massive result. We needed guts and determination to pull it off and we showed those qualities. And it’s those qualities we are going to need going forward from this game because both of our remaining games are pretty much knockout games, as this one was. I’m still hoping for three SA sides in the playoffs this year.

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.06.11 21:14:50 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 13) : and I believe its gonna happen :)

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.06.11 21:16:41 by franshark Reply
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  • Its concerning that we often have to come from behind to win. Happened against the Canes, Brumbies and Tahs. We’re going to get far like this.

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.06.11 21:18:55 by Stu Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 14) : Yeah, but the problem is we might need the Waratahs to lose another game, they are too close to us and Bulls on the log atm and one of us or Bulls will obviously drop points in our last game as we play each other.

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.06.11 21:23:29 by war1 Reply
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  • @Stu (Comment 15) : Better than losing from a leading position. But I agree with your point. My concern is our slow starts and bad first half performances which mean we have to come from behind. We simply cannot afford a bad start at Loftus in two weeks time.

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.06.11 21:26:22 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 16) : thats why I’m hoping for a highlanders win next week

  • Comment 18, posted at 04.06.11 21:29:26 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 18) : Me too, this is that game is in Sydney and the Highlanders have not played well the last few hands but thing is rugby and anything can happen, especially as the Tahs have to travel back from SA.

  • Comment 19, posted at 04.06.11 21:35:50 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 19) : even the cheetahs have beaten the tahs there, the highlanders have to win to keep their dream alive, and the emotion off new colours and stadium will not be there to influence the game…

  • Comment 20, posted at 04.06.11 21:38:56 by franshark Reply
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  • We won and congrats to the guys. But this is really like ‘going nowhere slowly’, they need to start playing for 80mins. If they dont, then we are not going to smell a SupeRugby trophy anytime soon.

  • Comment 21, posted at 04.06.11 21:39:18 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • I have this feeling that bonus points are going to be the deciding factors in the last 2 rounds.

  • Comment 22, posted at 04.06.11 21:41:08 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Well summed up BF. I’m very happy with the win and the backline did pretty well tonight but I do have a few concerns.

    Breakdowns – It seems our forwards take forever to get to the breakdowns which results in lost ball or when they do get there, slow ball.

    Charl Mcleod – He seems like a different person from last year. Takes his time to get to the ruck and when he eventually gets there he either kicks the ball away or he goes for snipes that aren’t on and he take his merry old time standing there and watching what’s going on before he eventually passes.

    Defence – Saw a stat close to the end of the game that showed we had missed 31 tackles already. The coaches aren’t doing thir job because our defensive lines are a mess!

    My biggest concern of all is this – The Sharks are playing like this; I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I, where they should be playing as a team!

    Will take the 4 point though anyway they come, come on Sharks only 5 more games to win in a row!

  • Comment 23, posted at 04.06.11 21:41:26 by Ben Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 21) : from this possition it looks like a long shot to any trophy, but if we can build on the two wins, we might just come close….

  • Comment 24, posted at 04.06.11 21:42:09 by franshark Reply
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  • Just let me add that JS did pretty well in the scrum. He isn’t such a bad prop as everyone (including me) is making him out to be!

  • Comment 25, posted at 04.06.11 21:42:57 by Ben Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 20) : I’m hoping for a Highlanders win and of course they can do it but the Tahs are also playing for their lives. Should be a tight game.

  • Comment 26, posted at 04.06.11 21:44:22 by war1 Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 25) : Still prefer him on hooker though.

  • Comment 27, posted at 04.06.11 21:44:51 by Ben Reply
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  • I have to say, much much better from Bosman, keep on improving though!

  • Comment 28, posted at 04.06.11 21:45:47 by war1 Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 23) : mcleod is a problem, I think even the centers will do better if we get better ball

  • Comment 29, posted at 04.06.11 21:46:55 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 25) : mosie did also make a difference….

  • Comment 30, posted at 04.06.11 21:48:25 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 29) : Yup quicker ball means your opponents’ defensive line has less time to organise, which means there will be more gaps to exploit!

  • Comment 31, posted at 04.06.11 21:51:19 by Ben Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 30) : Yeah I’m no scrum expert but to me it looked like JS didn’t do too badly.

  • Comment 32, posted at 04.06.11 21:52:23 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 31) : at one stage we were on the atack with more players going forward than cheetahs around, mcleod stood there as if he waited for the cheetahs defence to get in place…

  • Comment 33, posted at 04.06.11 21:56:03 by franshark Reply
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  • BF for the most i agree however

    Locks i felt were far better then the past 6 weeks atleast, and yes although some poor lineouts which i aint sure is Bissy or the Locks calling

    Ceneter were better but they dont run off the flyhalf for example , there attcking play is near zero

    Smitty today prolly had his best match of the year and he must have made his most tackles in months and months, people cry about that penalty which they say should have gone against Smit, but if you watch again you will see Oosthuizen pushing in and up and thus got pinged

    Other then poor lineouts Bissy was huge and should not have been penalised for going off his feet as he won the ball whilst on his feet and also before him Ashley Johynson fell on Strauss from an offside position and should have been blown

    Mcleod for me has lost it, his kicking is pathetic , not even to talk about his option taking

    For me we had one huge hero , not many mentioning him but specially on defence Lambie was huge , he had Cheetah forwards charging straight at him all match long, guess who came second best??? and it was not Lambie

  • Comment 34, posted at 04.06.11 22:00:48 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : Lambie was absolutely awesome! Especially on defence!

  • Comment 35, posted at 04.06.11 22:03:53 by Ben Reply
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  • How was Hargreves flying pass from the breakdown. Haha he did a better job than Mcleod.

    Follow the bounce on twitter has to go to Loftus in his speedo’s because the he said the Reds won’t lose to the Brumbies hahaha

  • Comment 36, posted at 04.06.11 22:04:29 by Mocho Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 33) : Good example.

  • Comment 37, posted at 04.06.11 22:04:40 by Ben Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : spot on, I was out of my seat when MJ penalised bissy with ashley lying on the wrong side protecting the ball

  • Comment 38, posted at 04.06.11 22:07:50 by franshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 34) : @Ben (Comment 35) : SuperPat got my vote for man of the match (surprise, surprise!). Dont know how they gave it to Sarel.
    Our No 10 is just plain all-round awesome. :cool:

  • Comment 39, posted at 04.06.11 22:08:01 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Guys, my whole thing is Mcleod is the big problem- as soon as he shut -upped, got the ball out asap, we scored! Did no one else pick up on this???

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.06.11 22:09:02 by Ice Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 33) : Can’t understand why Fred the fr… :oops: Frenchman didn’t come on! :lol:

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.06.11 22:09:27 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 40) : He’s trying too hard to impress the Springbok selectors, in my book.

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.06.11 22:10:20 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 36) : that was a great pass, hope they use the footage for training mcleod

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.06.11 22:10:22 by franshark Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 39) : agreed Shar,i was hugely impressed with his overall game , i cant wait for the stats to come out

    Pat for me is just getting better and better, can you imagine him playing next to ruan or fdup?? and having the likes of JDV on his inside??

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.06.11 22:11:08 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 40) : been saying it too icey lady

    like i said in my response to article post , his kicking and option taking is very poor this year

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.06.11 22:12:50 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 39) : Sarel had a great game Shaz! That guy is brilliant.

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.06.11 22:12:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 44) : Makes me drool just thinking about the possibilities… But he’s got to get past Morne and Jantjies first… And then Grant and James… fat chance. :roll:

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.06.11 22:13:49 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 41) : its most probably because he joint the team so late and they wanted him to spend some time to adjust

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.06.11 22:14:46 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 46) : Ben under pressure he folds and misses tackle after tackle , also his kicking game is poor so playing in wet conditions downunder would concern me if he was scrummy , and i like the bloke , i reckon next to pat he could make things happen

    however i would prefer to have FDup and Ruan as scrummies come world cup time

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.06.11 22:15:36 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 46) : Not saying he didn’t. I just think Pat had a better one. As did Riaan Viljoen.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.06.11 22:16:16 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 47) :Jantjies??
    Grant??? oh hell no , they one cant tackle and Grant cant take pressure , go watch the games where stormers lose and Grants at 10

    Now i can understand an inform morne and Butch
    as big a fan of Lambie as i am you cant throw away experience , i watched Butch for example this weekend and damn he stays solid

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.06.11 22:18:01 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 49) : I say take Sarel to the TN and see if he can make the step up.

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.06.11 22:18:09 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : as I understand the frinch players are going to play the away leg, he would most properly be there..

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.06.11 22:21:45 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 52) : boet i dont have a problem with that

    like tonights match i have already watched again , you should do so , and see the tackles he misses

    and remember its on a dry field

  • Comment 54, posted at 04.06.11 22:21:46 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 51) : I agree, but sadly I am not a Springbok selector. If I were, I’d play Butch at 12 anyway. :grin: And put Morne on the bench! :mrgreen: And leave Elton at the pie stand. And Grant in die Kaap! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.06.11 22:22:14 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 51) : Agree. I would choose Butch over Lambie as well.

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.06.11 22:23:16 by Mocho Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 55) : :) jdv had a good game, yesterday

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.06.11 22:24:22 by franshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 54) : I get what your saying but its not like FdP has been in the best form of his life this season is it?

  • Comment 58, posted at 04.06.11 22:24:30 by Ben Reply
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  • I see many are saying Alberts is not playing well, i was one of them , but again i just re-watched todays match and he is hitting and cleaning out rucks more then he used to , i guess its been a short coming in his game

    Is he as good as before , not at the moment no, but i think his form will return soon

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 55) : :lol: tis what i love about you :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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  • @Mocho (Comment 56) : So why is Mitchell not choosing him over Jantjies????? :shock:

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  • @Ben (Comment 58) : boet WC matches are not like CC etc , when the going gets tough in the trenches and you need hard men with experience and an all round game who you gonna play??

    an example is WC finals ?? its never running rugger , its all about tactical kicks defence etc, and of course good passes and good option taking

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 60) : :lol: Thank you! :razz:

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.06.11 22:27:57 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • I know most will disagree. There’s something about Lambie’s game at flyhalf that’s missing. I am not sure what it is, but when I compare Sias and Lambie there’s something not there. Don’t get me wrong I rate Lambie and I am a Lam-Bieber fan. Maybe its that X factor or something.

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.06.11 22:28:02 by Mocho Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 61) : the same reason why I think Mich should play at 12 for us, training the youngsters

  • Comment 65, posted at 04.06.11 22:29:39 by franshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 62) : That’s why I’m saying take Sarel to the TN and see if he can make the step up and if he can’t then so be it but if he can I’ll take him to the WC. I don’t care how many tackles you say he’s missed he has been by far the best scrummie is SA this year.

  • Comment 66, posted at 04.06.11 22:30:21 by Ben Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 64) : cant agree with you

    he is getting poor service from his ( and he has centers outside him with no creativity) yet he still performs brilliantly

    so sorry cannot agree with you, we won the CC and semi’s in that comp because of his X factor

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 61) : Elton was doing playing some good rugby before today. He got the backline going. Murray is injured, and that’s probably the best backline he could come up with.

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  • @Ben (Comment 66) : again i wont argue , but i’ll still play the 2 i mentioned in WC matches before him , specially against the top teams

  • Comment 69, posted at 04.06.11 22:32:25 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 56) : My question is this… Jantjies has suddenly appeared to find a fragment of the form that got him picked for the EOYT last year (at 10) at virtually the same time Butch comes back from France… and yet, in spite of Butch’s considerable talent, ability and everyone RAVING about him, and how he MUST go to the RWC, his own coach won’t start him at 10 and put Elton back on the bench. Why?
    Put 2 and 2 together and see if you get the same answer I do… :roll:

  • Comment 70, posted at 04.06.11 22:32:48 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 64) : the tactical dominance if I can shed my opinion… The thing that makes flyhalfs great, and that comes from experience… Flair and talent he has bugets full…

  • Comment 71, posted at 04.06.11 22:33:54 by franshark Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 69) : And I’m sure Pdive will agree with you. Experience over form.

  • Comment 72, posted at 04.06.11 22:35:13 by Ben Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 64) : Dude, if you can’t see the X-factor in Lambie, then nothing I can do or say is ever going to change it. Which is sad. Because you’re missing out on something very special. :sad:

  • Comment 73, posted at 04.06.11 22:35:53 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 67) : yes I agree with you, Lambie is flipping awesome. He is probably the best fly half in the country at the moment. Its just when I compare him to Elton and Sias on attack there’s something missing. His like 90% there to becoming a complete player like DC. I don’t know. Maybe its just me.

  • Comment 74, posted at 04.06.11 22:36:10 by Mocho Reply

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  • @ sharkslover, Alberts overplayed, needs a decent rest…

  • Comment 75, posted at 04.06.11 22:37:56 by Charlie Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 71) : i think the coaching staff are also to blame for some of the lack of flair in the sharks backline

    show me players running into gaps or off the ball in the sharks backline??

    its like there are no practiced moves even

  • Comment 76, posted at 04.06.11 22:38:50 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 75) : I agree with you completely, Charlie. Definitely needs a rest.

  • Comment 77, posted at 04.06.11 22:39:19 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Charlie (Comment 75) : agree,

  • Comment 78, posted at 04.06.11 22:39:21 by franshark Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 74) : Lambie is great and everything but he’s certainly no Dan Carter, YET.

  • Comment 79, posted at 04.06.11 22:39:44 by Ben Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 74) : boet the things you speak about and what you see Sias etc doing ?? lambie did last year , the problem is not him but match structures and interplay from fellow players

    Lambie is getting poor ball most of the time and is having to play a more kicking game then running etc

    This also comes about because the forwards are not dominating anywhere on the field

  • Comment 80, posted at 04.06.11 22:42:14 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 79) : Yet, its just experience

  • Comment 81, posted at 04.06.11 22:42:43 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 79) : And YET is the key word to all of this. I firmly believe that in time he will be better than Dan Carter. Give him another five years and he will be the best we have ever produced, and among the best the world has seen. A legend in the making. :cool:

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 80) : and that’s why we can not execute any plays because we can’t setup the start off it..

  • Comment 83, posted at 04.06.11 22:44:51 by franshark Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 82) : not even that long, with the amount of rugga they playing now…

  • Comment 84, posted at 04.06.11 22:46:30 by franshark Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 70) : its no secret that Elton gets the backline going more than James. His a more attacking flyhalf than James. Answer me this. If Butch came back to the Sharks, won’t many of us echo the same opinion as Mitchell and play him as first centre?

  • Comment 85, posted at 04.06.11 22:47:17 by Mocho Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 83) : exactly

  • Comment 86, posted at 04.06.11 22:48:39 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 85) : can you just imagine butch at 12 next to lambie?? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 87, posted at 04.06.11 22:50:44 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 85) : I agree. I think Butch is an excellent choice at 12. Have said so earlier on this thread. But the answer I get to my math sum is different to yours. :razz:

  • Comment 88, posted at 04.06.11 22:52:59 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 87) : Killer combo!

  • Comment 89, posted at 04.06.11 22:53:51 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • He will become the best I don’t ever doubt it. What Elton (and no way am I saying Elton is better) has on Lambie is that sort of flair that some like Carlos Spencer had. That pass without looking or the SBW offload that he did in one of the matches. Another player that showed these characteristics is Freddie Michalak. That’s why his “second coming” to the Sharks is an extremely positive thing.
    Lambie will learn this, and his will become the best with experience. I’m just pointing this out to your’ll

  • Comment 90, posted at 04.06.11 22:55:32 by Mocho Reply

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  • @franshark (Comment 84) : I hear you. But it’s the international experience that will really round him out. And I have a sneaky feeling that he might not get it at this RWC. TN yes, but RWC not. As much as I would like to see SuperPat go, they are grooming Jantjies for the role of Morne’s understudy. Again. :roll:

  • Comment 91, posted at 04.06.11 22:57:20 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 87) : Butch next to Lambie might be a reality come the away leg of the tri nations :)

  • Comment 92, posted at 04.06.11 22:57:34 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 90) : I appreciate what you are saying. But even with the rose-coloured glasses taken off and put on the coffee table, in my opinion Pat has more flair in the slightly stuffed middle-finger of his left hand than Elton will ever have. That’s not to say Jantjies is not a good player, on his day and in form. I just don’t think he’s in the same league as Pat.

  • Comment 93, posted at 04.06.11 23:01:47 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Hey guys…. it’s past my bedtime and believe me, I need all the beauty sleep I can muster! So thanks for the convos and banter… night night! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 94, posted at 04.06.11 23:06:14 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • It was a good day :) sleep tight

  • Comment 95, posted at 04.06.11 23:39:41 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 29) : That’s what I said two weeks ago, we need a good scrumhalf before we write MB off, he could be a good player if he gets front foot ball. Mcleod seems unfit and someone needs to tell him to get boots with studs and not blades as he currently has.

  • Comment 96, posted at 05.06.11 01:11:25 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • It seemed to me that the Cheetahs lost it rather than the Sharks won it…

    Mvovo was terrible on defense…the worst I have seen a wing in the S15….
    Actually 40 missed tackles by the Sharks does not say much of their defense in general…

  • Comment 97, posted at 05.06.11 02:50:53 by Hmmm Reply

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  • I had another great SB week…
    Only game I got wrong this week was the Brumbies/Reds…
    I moved up almost 40 000 places in 2 weeks in the glabal…to 19 805
    Moved in the Sharksworld pool from 138 in 46 in the same two weeks…

  • Comment 98, posted at 05.06.11 03:04:06 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 97) : Yeah I agree. Mvovo was weak. He pisses me of sometimes as he stands too flat. Watch the match again, and his previous matches. Opponents are exploiting this and always kicking down his side.

  • Comment 99, posted at 05.06.11 07:15:20 by Mocho Reply

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  • Bwhahahahahahahahahaha
    Hehehehehehehehehehehehe

    I invented a new game while reading this thread on my phone this am. It’s called “predict the author of the comment before scrolling down”. And let me tell you I am damn good at it.

    Oh no wait, maybe a few of us are just very predictable. :lol:

  • Comment 100, posted at 05.06.11 07:20:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 100) : you must be very bored out there in the desert?? ;-)

  • Comment 101, posted at 05.06.11 08:31:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Good win, nail biting stuff at the end!

    I reckon there will be a few citings this week, and feel that we could loose 2 players. Alberts hit on Johnson comes to mind. Daniels piledriving Sias into the dirt is another.

    Momentum is building, we need to keep it up. The Lions will have their tails up next week, complacency will hurt us badly.

  • Comment 102, posted at 05.06.11 09:34:47 by Mole Reply

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  • Oh and to Bosman. Well played!

  • Comment 103, posted at 05.06.11 09:35:38 by Mole Reply

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  • Guys. I was just thinking about log positions. As far as the Sharks are concerned, wouldn’t we want a scenario where we beat the Lions and the Bulls win both of their last two games? I think that is the best chance of having the log finish with the Sharks in 6th and the Stormers in 5th. I think 4th is out of the question at this stage as it would involve passing the Saders on the log and I don’t see that happening. Finishing 5th will then be a balls up as we would have to travel to Christchurch for first knock out and on the off chance we’re able to pull off a miracle win, we would in all likelihood have to fly back to Cape Town to face the Stormers (assuming they finish second), and if manage to win there, we’d probs have to fly back to Brisbane the following week for final against the Reds!!

    Nay. I think our best option is to hope the Tahs slip up, we give the Lions a sound thrashing, the Bulls beat the Stormers and us. Then the log will look something like.

    Reds
    Blues
    Stormers
    Saders
    Bulls
    Sharks

    Meaning, we go to CT for knockout instead of Christchurch, then to Brisbane for semi, and probably Auckland for final. FAR better travel scenario.

  • Comment 104, posted at 05.06.11 09:37:26 by klempie Reply

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  • Ag I meant “I think that is the best chance of having the log finish with the Sharks in 6th and the BULLS in 5th”

  • Comment 105, posted at 05.06.11 09:44:06 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 104) : I dont like the idea of putting our chance at a play-off spot at risk by hoping the Tahs slip up. We need to win every one the remaining games if we are to end on a 4 game winning streak and take that momentum into the play-offs.

  • Comment 106, posted at 05.06.11 09:54:10 by Mole Reply

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  • @Mole (Comment 106) : If the Highlanders beat the Tahs next week, and we beat the Lions, then we are in bru. The second last game of the last round could be quite funny with both teams trying to LOSE. :lol:

  • Comment 107, posted at 05.06.11 09:57:54 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 104) : :lol: :lol: I’ll eat my socks, all of them not just the ones I’m wearing, if that happens. :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 108, posted at 05.06.11 10:07:09 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 108) : Not implausible bro. The Bulls are on the up. You should watch OUT! :cool:

  • Comment 109, posted at 05.06.11 10:12:48 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 109) : Was more talking about your travel scenario. Don’t think any team in the world can travel like that and win all three.

    As far as the log goes I kinda agree, anything is still (almost) possible.

    My top 3 prediction is Reds, Stormers & Crusaders, not necessarily in that order. :smile:

  • Comment 110, posted at 05.06.11 10:17:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 109) : If Stormers lose their last two matches and Sharks win theirs, the Sharks will end top of the SA conference.

  • Comment 111, posted at 05.06.11 10:21:53 by McLovin Reply

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  • @McLovin (Comment 111) : I never suggested they will lose their last TWO matches. Read carefully big guy. :cool:

  • Comment 112, posted at 05.06.11 10:24:50 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 112) : Never said you did, was merely offering another possible scenario. Probably the best one from a Sharks perspective. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 113, posted at 05.06.11 10:30:24 by McLovin Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 64) : We need to first ask ourselves what makes a flyhalf great! If he isn’t getting quality ball from his scrumhalf, he is already disadvantaged. If the team doesn’t have a game plan which gives the flyhalf options then the flyhalf is left with 2 options, pass to your centre or kick an aimless kick. Take the Sias for example, he has wings running off him, he has a brilliant 13 looking for work and running great angles, he has Viljoen who is able to chase and collect up and unders…the list goes on. A good flyhalf therefore needs to have the talent and options which will enable him to make good decisions. Lambie is being stiffled by Mceold and Sharks’ lack of creativity with ball in hand. The fact that Lambie is still able to shine in these conditions speaks volumes about the man. Imagine if he played for the Cheetahs, Crusaders or Stormers? He would be a legend! Lambie’s biggest competitor is going to be Sias and with the Cheetahs’ game plan and the return of their stars which will allow Sias to get quick ball on the front foot, he is going to be very dangerous. We need a proper backline and attack coach, the current coaching stuff isn’t doing justice to the player’s talents, we are directionless on the field and very predictable. Take Juan Smith for example, do you remember how well Eddie used him in the WC? He was not one dimensional and was running good angles, Butch looked awesome as the game plan allowed him to make good decisions! An attack coach will help us use our strike runners more effectively. Mcleod is a criminal, he is guilty of “grey collar crime” he tricked all of us and made us believe that we were covered at 9! And he has the guts to play in boots with blades, week in week out he is falling all over the show.

  • Comment 114, posted at 05.06.11 11:32:43 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I am just hugely relieved because the last 6-7 minutes probably took years from my life :roll: :razz:
    Well done Sharks!!

    But it wasn’t pretty and a lot must be put on Cheetahs inability to cash on the possession and general dominance of the game. Even in the second half the moments they got going they truly looked dangerous.

    Glad to say that Bosman was not as bad as during the last weeks – though nothing exceptional really so I do not feel I should be doing mea culpa yet ;-) .

    Daniel was once again very committed tough truly on the edge of what’s allowed.

    Charl really needs a break to regather. Sarel Pretorius is too individualistic if you ask me and did not deserve the MOM. If tehy had to go with Cheetahs any of the Ebersons brothers was better. Robert had really good game IMO.

    At the end I am just grateful for 4 points. :razz:

  • Comment 115, posted at 05.06.11 11:57:34 by rekinek Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 114) : McLeod did not trick us into anything.

    This is his first super rugby season – everybody knew that. And for me at least it was quite evident that with departure of Kockott we have only one scrummie (who never played super rugby).

    Really unlucky about Hoffman’s injury.

  • Comment 116, posted at 05.06.11 11:59:59 by rekinek Reply
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  • Winning ugly is still winning no matter who says what.

    Although it was not quite like the CC semi last year on how I suggested they approach the game, it is still a win and well bloody done!

    Now we have 3 teams in the top 6, the Bulls clash for the Sharks is now their most important game this year.

    I cannot wait for it.

    On a side-note, and its not only because of last night, I have been saying this for months now, Marius Jonker is the most pathetic referee on the circuit at the moment.

  • Comment 117, posted at 05.06.11 12:02:58 by Morné Reply
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  • Even though I’m a Sharks supporter , and I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but I’m finding it a bit weird that they replaced Mark Lawrence for Marius Jonker.

  • Comment 118, posted at 05.06.11 12:17:04 by Mocho Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 107) : :lol: very true

  • Comment 119, posted at 05.06.11 12:18:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 118) : I suspect it is along the lines of Jonker is going to the RWC and Lawrence is not so they had to send the ref who is kower on the totem pole to ref the nothing game.

  • Comment 120, posted at 05.06.11 12:23:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 107) : I don’t get it… why?

  • Comment 121, posted at 05.06.11 12:25:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 120) :

    Jonker is going to the RWC and Lawrence not?

    That settles it, the IRB is high on something.

  • Comment 122, posted at 05.06.11 12:26:22 by Morné Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 121) : Because the bottom placed team will probably (hopefully) play the Stormers and not have to travel.

  • Comment 123, posted at 05.06.11 12:27:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 120) : Damn I wish Mark Lawrence was a ref at every game. Do u know how Rob is going at attempting to make a clone machine that grows the clone to the appropriate age in one day?

  • Comment 124, posted at 05.06.11 12:32:32 by Mocho Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 120) : I thought Kaplan and Joubert is going to the WC?

  • Comment 125, posted at 05.06.11 12:38:11 by Ben Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 120) : Yep Bens right. Ony Joubert and Kaplan are going. Veldsman as video analyst tmo

  • Comment 126, posted at 05.06.11 12:42:29 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 126) : I remember it like this from a article that Richard (I think) posted.

  • Comment 127, posted at 05.06.11 12:45:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 123) : but the Stormers aren’t gonna finish 3rd…

  • Comment 128, posted at 05.06.11 12:45:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 128) : They still can if they lose to the Bulls.

  • Comment 129, posted at 05.06.11 12:48:29 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 129) : Which is the one bit I knew you didn’t put in your comment. :)

  • Comment 130, posted at 05.06.11 12:51:37 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 130) : I DID put it in 104. :razz: Gonna be an interesting two weeks. :razz:

  • Comment 131, posted at 05.06.11 12:56:36 by klempie Reply

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  • @Morné (Comment 122) : Oops my mistake it is Joubert and Kaplan from SA that are going to the RWC, I just re-checked the match appointments.

  • Comment 132, posted at 05.06.11 12:57:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • My perfect final log would look like this. If its possible.

    1. Stormers
    2. Reds
    3. Blues
    4. Sharks
    5. Crusaders
    6. Bulls

    The Quarters would be
    Sharks vs Crusaders
    Blues vs Blues

    I’m really hoping the Bulls go there and win, it will do us wonders come the world cup as both the Stormers and the Bulls would have won in Auckland, where the quarters, semis and finals are being played if we come out tops in our group.

    The Semis would be:
    Stormers vs Sharks
    Reds vs Bulls

    Final being Sharks vs Bulls in Durban!! Aaah if only . . .

  • Comment 133, posted at 05.06.11 12:59:59 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 133) :
    *quarters Blues vs Bulls

  • Comment 134, posted at 05.06.11 13:01:27 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 133) : IF the log were to end that way, then the Stormers would play the lowest ranked team and if the Bulls made the semis it would be them playing the Stormers not the Sharks.

  • Comment 135, posted at 05.06.11 13:08:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 135) : oh darn. Then the semis would be Reds vs Sharks
    Mountain goats vs Bulls

  • Comment 136, posted at 05.06.11 13:18:42 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 136) :

    Yes IF everything goes according to your plan.

  • Comment 137, posted at 05.06.11 13:26:03 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 133) : I’d much rather have the Sharks play the Blues and not the Crusaders :razz:

  • Comment 138, posted at 05.06.11 14:22:02 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 11) : hi
    all

    Yes i saw it well she is one lucky lady if you ask me but she did great to :mrgreen:

  • Comment 139, posted at 05.06.11 14:22:40 by chaz Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 16) : well lets hope its the Bulls that loose that one we need to win all game we are only 6 points behind the Reds that lose did us good now its just the Streamers that have to loose a couple and we should pull through

  • Comment 140, posted at 05.06.11 14:27:12 by chaz Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 138) :
    i think we can take both no matter what :razz:

  • Comment 141, posted at 05.06.11 14:44:38 by chaz Reply

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  • This would be my lineup for Liosn game. A Mix of resting players before knockouts and giving some players some needed gametime before Bulls and Knockout games.

    1.Beast
    2.Smit (C)
    3.Herbst
    4.Mossie
    5.Hargreaves
    6.Botes
    7.Keegan…not ideal, but Alberts needs some rest and Deysel will be back soon.
    8.Kanko
    9.Freddy
    10.Lambie
    11.Mvovo
    12.Bosman
    13.Jacobs
    14.JPP
    15.Ludik

    16.Bissie
    17.Van Staden
    18.Sykes
    19.Alberts
    20.Mcloed
    21.JLP
    22.Stef.

    When Smit goes off and Bissie on; Stef can come on and Captain from 15. Pat move to 12, Fred 10 and Mcloed 9, with Bossie getting a rest with 20 to go. Alberts can come on last 20 for Botes. I think we should still win mixing things up a bit aswell as giving guys rest and having a look at some different options before Knockouts.C’Mon Sharks…lets win this thing!!!!

  • Comment 142, posted at 05.06.11 16:00:51 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 142) : And you don’t think shuffling half the backline halfway through a game will unsettle everything?

  • Comment 143, posted at 05.06.11 18:30:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Man, I’m totally in two minds about this game. On the positive side, we beat a team that not only has troubled us historically, but has also been playing some scintillating rugby, even knocking over the Crusaders recently. And we did it on their home patch.

    Also, we showed great character and tenaciousness to come back from a half where we not only trailed on the scoreboard, but were also comprehensively outplayed, and then had to hang on with only 13 players on the field. Lastly, we beat them even though we played some atrocious rugby, suggesting that if this team gets it sh*t together, it could be a force to be reckoned with.

    On the down side, there has not been much evidence to date this season that this team is likely to get it’s sh*t together any time soon. After all, it’s not like the negatives we witnessed were new, or came as a surprise to anyone.

    Once again, we struggled in the lineouts, and this against a team who could at best be described as competent in this facet. Similarly, we can’t exactly claim to have dominated the scrums, despite Coenie Oosthuizen being as proficient at scrummaging as, say, Zola Budd.

    There is still scant evidence of a defensive system, or backline coaching. Our selection policies continues to boggle the mind (if Charl McCloud kicks one more ball away I will personally stomp onto the field with a Hilti gun and nail his feet to the ground, and the less said about Adi’s continued ommission from the starting 15, the better; better for my blood pressure, that is).

    Aside from all of that though, the think that really worries me is the complete lack of synergy in the team. You would expect at this level, when players have been playing together for a significant period of time, that they would develop an intuitive understanding- and anticipation of what the players around them will do. Certainly, with the Cheetahs it seemed as if the ball carrier could fling the ball at will and still pick out a support player.

    So while I will celebrate this victory as a Sharks supporter, and while we may still make it into the play-offs, and while I will hope and pray for the best, I have some very grave reservations about our ability to win this competition.

  • Comment 144, posted at 05.06.11 18:44:54 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 144) : Well said :???:

  • Comment 145, posted at 05.06.11 18:55:58 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 144) :

    You would expect at this level, when players have been playing together for a significant period of time, that they would develop an intuitive understanding- and anticipation of what the players around them will do

    Andthis from the SAME team that prided themselves on being a TEAM that won the 2010 CC because of playing as ateam with very few big names.

  • Comment 146, posted at 05.06.11 19:19:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 146) : Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?

  • Comment 147, posted at 05.06.11 19:29:05 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 146) : The only change in terms of regular players from the CC has been Meyer Bosman. I guess he must be the Luke Watson of the Sharks :mrgreen:

  • Comment 148, posted at 05.06.11 19:45:24 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 143) : Most of them just move one out…should not be a disrupting change…i rather think that is a very attacking backline and could rip a tired Lions team to pieces last 20 minutes. Lions do have a long flight back to SA. We should be well ahead with 20 minutes left anyway. We saw how bringing on Jacobs had an impact for us against Cheetahs; this Combo could have that effect and more, due to the style of play those players have. With Lambie at 12 it will also bring some calm to a Backline with a lot of flair…i think that backline could work awesome for us.

  • Comment 149, posted at 05.06.11 19:56:20 by JJR Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 148) : Speaking to some Cheetah friends today, and they tell me he was the reason theyr kept losing all their games after i told them someone made a comment like that on our site yesterday :)

  • Comment 150, posted at 05.06.11 20:01:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Morning all, must say it just feel/is better coming to work with a win for your team over the weekend :)
    Have a great monday….

  • Comment 151, posted at 06.06.11 07:18:49 by franshark Reply
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