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Plumtree ups the ante


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 8 Jun 2011 at 07:53
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Sharks coach John Plumtree has increased the pressure on his side ahead of this weekend’s must-win derby against the Lions by admitting in the media that the team are not currently playing well enough to progress in the Super Rugby competition.

According to the SuperSport website, Plumtree has conceded “we’re concerned that we are not playing well enough to do well in this competition, that’s a genuine concern”. The coach goes on to highlight a few areas, none of which will be surprising to fans, including inability to breach the advantage line and impatience on attack, particularly in the opponents’ 22.

There are, of course, numerous other areas of concern which Plumtree hasn’t specifically mentioned, including uncharacteristically sloppy work at the set pieces, poor first-up defence, shocking handling and a lack of creativity and incisiveness amongst the backs. In his obsession with crossing the advantage line first and foremost (and assuming that points will magically appear as a result of doing only that), Plumtree appears to overlooking these other factors.

Perhaps more concerning to fans is the coach’s statement earlier in the week that the most important factor for his team in the coming weeks will be “mental strength”. While it is undoubtedly true that, with tired, sore bodies the norm after 16 weeks of test-match intensity rugby, mental strength is all they’ll really have last at this stage of the season, it does beg the question as to why the Sharks have invested absolutely nothing in any specialised coaching in this area. The game has moved on since the 1980s and mental strength is no longer considered an innate ability, but rather a skill that can be practised and mastered through coaching.



44 Comments

  • Funny that he doesn’t mention the coaching as a problem. Always blame your players. I know the players must go out on the field and execute but the coaches are the ones who put the game plans into working. And our game plan certainly haven’t been working!

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.06.11 07:58:58 by Ben Reply
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  • Ai tog :???:

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.06.11 08:10:15 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 1) : I agree to some extent but also how much different is rugby to a normal days job..its all up to the player himself..what u put in is what u get out..and some of these players are coasting way to much..but in saying that I do believe the coach should have back up players to help with the rotation policy…mental strength though is another thing,we should have someone there helping these guys!!!

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.06.11 08:14:44 by shaniboi Reply

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  • Thanks for the sharks thread :) hear Plum speak on east coast radio last night, said that Mich will be used either 9 or 10 this weekend….

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.06.11 08:21:12 by franshark Reply
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  • @franshark (Comment 4) : I’d prefer 9, Mcleod needs a wake-up call.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.06.11 08:23:45 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 5) : absolutely, will not be happy if he plays 10

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.06.11 08:29:10 by franshark Reply
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  • I hope adi starts at 13 and stefan is benched,smit at hooker,beast at loose head,than when they sub smit in the second half ,stefan can come on at centre or fullback

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.06.11 08:43:51 by Poisy Reply
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  • plum won’t drop meyer and wouldn’t move pat from 10, so the only place for fred is at 9

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.06.11 08:49:49 by jovner Reply

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  • And Fred, apparently, does not really want to play 9.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.06.11 09:03:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : Where you heard that?

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.06.11 09:07:15 by Ice Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : If that IS his attitude, he can bugger of now.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.06.11 09:09:12 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : he happy to play 9 within S15, as far as I know…

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.06.11 09:09:19 by franshark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 10) : @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 11) : @franshark (Comment 12) : It was on one of the blog sites when the news broke that he was in Durban. I dont think its a demand of his but more what his preference is and where he feels more comfortable so please dont get ready to crucify the poor bloke. I doubt that he would be with the Sharks if he didnthave a passion for them and will probably gladly play whereever the team needs him

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.06.11 09:17:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 13) : I’ll give him a chance :mrgreen: We don’t really have a choice, do we?

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.06.11 09:21:43 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • How’s this for shocking stats about Smit at Loose Head.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.06.11 09:23:21 by Mocho Reply

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  • Here it is, thanks to Keo dd 31 May 2011

    “Keo.co.za brings you news from South Africa’s Super Rugby franchises.

    Sharks resigns Michalak – Frederic Michalak will have a second stint with the Sharks this season.

    The former French international first featured for the Sharks in 2008, and now the Durban-based franchise have announced they have resigned the 28-year-old.

    With Conrad Hoffman injured, Michalak can provide scrumhalf cover but it is believed the player does not want to play at No 9. With Pat Lambie a top contender for the World Cup squad, Michalak will be provide pivot depth during the Currie Cup.

    Michalak is the Sharks’ second signing from Europe this year as Marius Joubert joins the team from Clermont in June.”

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.06.11 09:24:05 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 15) : http://bit.ly/jdKyZD

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.06.11 09:24:26 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 14) : No, Im really bummed about Hoffmans injury, the poor guy gets a start and then that.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.06.11 09:27:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 14) : as solly said, its a preference but is willing to play anywhere hoping to go to 10 in CC when lambs are away winning the WC :)

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.06.11 09:28:39 by franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 18) : Me too. @franshark (Comment 19) : :razz:

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.06.11 09:32:31 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) : You actually quote KEO…on THAT…on HERE…???? :shock: :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.06.11 09:37:55 by Ice Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 17) : It’s not really shocking IMO. The Author Grant Ball starts off by saying Smit plays at LH because of a supposed better work rate than other props at LH. Then they compare him to ONE of those props. All that says is that Coenie performs better than Smit in those areas. It doesn’t mention that Coenie gives away 3 times as many penalties, nor does it mention Smits stats compared to the other 12 Looseheads over the weekend.

    Grant Ball has found a wagon to jump on and his selective stats are a good help to him.

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.06.11 09:44:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : Is Grant Ball and Grant10 the same person :razz:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.06.11 09:51:11 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 23) : I wanted to ask the same question! :)

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.06.11 10:12:27 by Ben Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 23) : no. Grant10 actually knows something about rugby

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.06.11 10:14:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 25) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.06.11 10:19:14 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • well plum, you’re not crossing the advantage line because EVERY other team has figured you out – ball to alberts, bang, he gets taken out, ball to bissy, bang he gets taken out – that’s it, that is the sum total of your advantage line threats.

    after 14 games, bosman & terblanche have done SH*T for you banging it up in midfield and creating for your dangerous outside backs but only NOW you want to “admit” :roll:

    only in Sharkland…like i said on another thread, Plum is making the “playoff spot” bigger than it actually is, YOU ARE NOT ON TOP OF THE LOG PLUM!! finishing 5th or 6th is NOT good enough with a team chock-full of SPRINGBOKS.

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.06.11 10:20:33 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) : Have to agree with you. Which is why I pointed out the coaching in comment 1.

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.06.11 10:22:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) :

    I can’t argue with that.

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.06.11 10:28:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 21) : Yeah, why not, thats where I read it so its only fair to share with all. :mrgreen:
    Anyway Robs got a whole article in response to something Keos crowd wrote.

  • Comment 30, posted at 08.06.11 10:32:10 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 17) : Funny enough watching that I fealt john smit actually had the upper hand. @ LH they are much of a muchness however JS experience is much more evident. The Sharks scrum has met an all time low this year and not just when JS was playing .I think the forward pack as a unit needs to take it on the chin as it is the entire unit failing -something you forget when watching from your couch or something you forget when you dont play the game. The scrum can be hugely influenced by looseforwards not pushing or binding well enough to their locks, on a similar note I would not play John smit with skeate/Hargs & a botes/daniels type flank behind him.

  • Comment 31, posted at 08.06.11 10:32:52 by Talent Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : and throwing the word “aura” in there shows just how creatively bankrupt Ball is.

  • Comment 32, posted at 08.06.11 10:34:08 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Ball is just punting Jake White’s agenda to piss off Smit.

  • Comment 33, posted at 08.06.11 10:39:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 33) : I think it really grates White that Smit gets on with Divvy.

  • Comment 34, posted at 08.06.11 10:48:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Grant Ball makes some very valid points…..it is no use disrespecting him just because he points out the truth. Smit is not a prop, he weakens the team playing there, to compare him at loosehead with Beast is just silly. Beast also gets through a lot more work and scrums far better. I am worried about this Alberts injury, Sharks just have to win against Lions, the last thing Sharks need is a ‘ knockout ‘ fixture against Bulls at Loftus! My advice, play Sykes at blindside, not Kanko! Play beast and Bissy, bench Smit. Keep game tight and play conservative….keep ball in front of forwards so that Sykes is not exposed….now is not the time to be fancy, it is all about winning. Leave Michalak on bench….Lambie to dictate with the boot….keep it close to the big sharks pack…..you do not need to dance with these Lions….in a manner of speaking.

  • Comment 35, posted at 08.06.11 10:50:03 by grant10 Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 34) : yes – I think so too. Jake should spend more time at his fancy church actually READING the book he’ll find there.

    /end sermon

  • Comment 36, posted at 08.06.11 11:14:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @grant10 (Comment 35) : Sykes has become to slow for flank

    did you not watch last weekend when sykes broke the line???

    hell man props were catching him from behind :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.06.11 12:26:14 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 37) : Thank you! If you want to lose, play Sykes or Moster at lock. If you so obsessed with playing a lock on the flank then go for Bressler. Select the incumbent 7 in the Sharks XV, simply as that.

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.06.11 13:28:17 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 1) : I could not agree more Ben. What is it with these Kiwi coaches in SA so quick to blame the players but never taking responsibility for their part in the mess. Plum and Mitchell are very much alike here. Plum needs to look within, realize he has a huge hole in his quiver when it comes to player management, admit his failings and do something about it. Nothing will change next year until Plum changes. A lot of damn gall on his part placing this squarely at the player’s feet and not accepting any responsibility himself.

    By the way, player management is not the only weakness when it comes to Plum, game plans are very simple, no real thought given there, no alternatives when things go wrong. Very disappointed in this statement from the coach.

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.06.11 18:46:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 39) : When does his contract expire again?

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.06.11 18:57:42 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 40) : I am not so quick to call for his ouster, he has done a lot for Sharks rugby. I am wondering though whether he is truly a Head Coach. He does well coaching the forwards in my opinion, but does not seem to have the management skills to be the Head Coach.

    When Muir was coach, he was constantly going to NZ or Europe to take coaching classes to improve his coaching skills. I have never heard of Plum doing this.

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.06.11 19:13:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 41) : Plum needs some help that’s for sure. Just wondering when his contract will expire, no calling for his head just YET.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.06.11 19:19:17 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 42) : :lol: now why would you ask when his contract expires unless…….

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.06.11 19:29:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 43) : Covering all the bases dude! ;)

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