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Jenner calls time on Sharks


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 30 Jun 2011 at 09:44
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Sharks under 21 centre Dwayne Jenner has decided to leave Durban in order to pursue a career with the Border Bulldogs.

The 99kg inside centre was a surprise inclusion in the Sharks Invitational XV that played in a pre-Currie Cup warmup game last, despite being only 19 at the time. Jenner was picked straight from the relative obscurity of the Zululand Rugby Academy ranks and went on to do well at age-group level for the Sharks last year, even earning a call up to the SA Under-20 training squad earlier this year as a result.

Despite being named in the Under 21 squad for this season, the former EG Jansen schoolboy has decided to further his career in East London and we wish him all the best for the future. The Sharks do still have a very talented under 21 inside centre in the ranks in the form of former Affies and SA Academy player, Heimar Williams.



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  • always a little concerning when one of your junior stars leaves even before he leaves the under 21 ranks…

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.06.11 09:56:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Gets a sharks academy scholarship(I’m assuming) passes his degree at varsity college,thanks for the free ride sharks I’m off to play for someone else

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.06.11 10:01:43 by Poisy Reply
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  • @ Poisy – (Comment 2)more like no point in hanging around here Sharks never back their youth, they just signed Marius Joubert so i’ll leave now. :roll: :roll:

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.06.11 10:06:08 by Caratacus Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) :

    It is worrying!

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.06.11 10:06:31 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Caratacus (Comment 3) : ryyt he could have atleast hung around a year or 2 extra and see what happens if nothing else to show his grateful for all his gotten from the sharks,its bloody annoying that he just left without trying

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.06.11 10:09:45 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 2) : not true… Jenner came through the ZRA ranks and was never given anything by the Sharks Academy.

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.06.11 10:10:54 by robdylan Reply
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  • Border young man, players need to access there rugby carriers and make the best choice for them…I also spent time at small unions(and never left ;) but you need to be honest with yourself and apply your trade wisely -that why I want to let this youngster know…there is nothing, nothing in the world wise about joining the dogs!!! I hope for his sake EP picks him up in the very near future…as for the sharks letting a young talented centre go, WTF!!!!!!! Let’s privatize the Sharks Academy now, and stick to buying players!!!

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.06.11 10:11:59 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • It’s a reality guys. Happens all the time. Personally I think the Sharks would have matched or bettered his Bulldogs offer if they really wanted him to stay on.

    Well done to Dwayne Jenner. He’s served the Sharks juniors really well over the last couple of years.He definitely repaid whatever the Sharks invested in him on the field of play. A very solid dependable player who maximised his opportunity. I hope his time at the Bulldogs opens the doors to bigger and better things.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.06.11 10:18:46 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : oh ya and going to bull dogs is gonna be so awesome for his career,good luck

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.06.11 10:18:53 by Poisy Reply
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  • :shock: Bulldogs :roll:

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.06.11 10:22:57 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 2) : Assumptions are the Mother off all Fork Ups! :lol:

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.06.11 10:23:28 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 8) : Nicely said.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.06.11 10:23:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 9) : he clearly sees the first division as a better place to develop than the u21s… and given the statistics re Sharks u21s progressing to seniors, can you really say he’s wrong?

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.06.11 10:25:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : I can say he’s hasty,nobody gets instant success unless you lambie or fransie

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.06.11 10:28:27 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 9) : I’m sure he would have considered his options before making his choice. Maybe not the best result for the Sharks this but surely the Player feels its better for him. Don’t think anyone can blame him for that.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.06.11 10:29:42 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 15) : maybe he does see it that way and for his sack I hope it works,but may he nevr come back

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.06.11 10:33:04 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 16) : What the heck dude???

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.06.11 10:35:34 by Ben Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 16) : I think that’s very harsh

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.06.11 10:36:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 17) : his not loyal and gives up to easily he should have made a fight of it at the sharks

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.06.11 10:37:25 by Poisy Reply
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  • [email protected]Poisy (Comment 19) : I don’t think you know him personally and know what his reasons were for moving. So in that case I think its unfair off you to judge him.

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.06.11 10:39:05 by Ben Reply
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  • A young journeyman already .From Boksburg to Slummies .

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.06.11 10:40:07 by Speed7 Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : maybe so but I just hate the fact he just gave up on a valid shot at the sharks,maybe we don’t back our youth very much but he had a chance to show management why they should! Not just walk away to a place where he will have an easier path to the 1st team,where’s the bloody fight in him to show he belongs and should be counted!

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.06.11 10:41:27 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 20) : you right I don’t know his story or him and now I never will,I have a right to my opinion of him or anyone else right or wrong agree or don’t ,unless he comes out with a reason for why his going I’m gonna be upset he left my team

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.06.11 10:45:45 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 23) : Fair enough.

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.06.11 10:47:07 by Ben Reply
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  • Maybe he thinks the Bulldogs will get promoted?
    And he might be dreaming of a Kings selection.
    @Poisy (Comment 22) : I believe leaving the Sharks is actually the hard way. The easy way would be to just stick around and hope someone picks him.
    I’d much rather play every week and get nowhere than not play every week and still get nowhere. He must have gotten the impression that he will not get that many opportunities.

    Aren’t Border bankrupt? Or semi-profesional? I would assume he will get paid more or less the same as what he did at the Sharks? 1st Division = Premier u21s ?

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.06.11 10:48:12 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 25) : as ben will tell you “assumption is the mother of all fork ups” I get your point about game time but he was getting somewhere at the sharks he was in the squad for under 20′s bokke when last did a bulldogs player accomplish that?

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.06.11 10:53:07 by Poisy Reply
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  • its sad to see such talent leave the sharks, but i feel its a good step for such a young player. it would be nice if all youngsters would have been able to play at smaller unions, thus it would be able to see if he`s ready to play against the bigger boys. imagine a leopards, bulldogs and griffons teams consisting out of alot of young talent, as well as a few experienced campaigners…

    actually what i`m trying to say is, wouldnt it be lovely to see 12 competitive sides in a currie cup, as the npc was the last few years?

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.06.11 10:53:35 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 26) : why cant we as the sharks feed the bulldogs our fringe (not u/21 and u/19) players for the currie cup, let them get game time in the first division and by that they would develop better?

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.06.11 10:56:08 by VanWilder Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 23) : I’m also very upset that he’s left…

    But if I were a youngster who had been earmarked for fast tracking a year ago (selection in the invitational team) and then saw nothing happen and no clear plan communicated to me, I might also be quite frustrated. Seeing the treatment of other juniors the extended squad probably made it easier to justify the decision.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.06.11 10:56:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VanWilder (Comment 28) : that’s a very good idea

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.06.11 10:57:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 26) : Which assumption?
    I guess you do have a point RE: Border 20s Boks. Just another question that pops into my mind: How many 20s boks do later on go languish in the lower leages anyway? Think I read an article in SARugby mag about that, might have only been players of colour though( the assumption being they were ‘qoutas’ at the 19s/21s )

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.06.11 10:57:49 by Ossa Reply

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  • @VanWilder (Comment 28) : the same reason they keep buying players instead of backing the ones we have A LACK OF COMMON SENSE

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.06.11 10:59:28 by Poisy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : he was in the bok under 20′s though and didn’t make the cut,he could have just worked hard and showed they made a mistake leaving him,how much attention is he gonna get at bulldogs? They can’t even keep financially afloat does he think they gonna have time and specialists to communicate with him there?

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.06.11 11:04:26 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 31) : the assumption of his salary lol :P ,and you right very few under 20′s bokke make it to 1st team bokke regardless of color and things like that, but its even a smaller percentage that get noticed at smaller unions and get invited to a big union

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.06.11 11:07:43 by Poisy Reply
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  • the other day while speaking to some friends I found out how many guys from my school a year or two behind me are now playing in cape town and doing well!

    Maybe the Sharks should look at home grown players first.

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.06.11 11:08:58 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 35) : lmfao hahahahahaha try telling that to the people in charge! It falls on deaf ears its like asking a fish to climb a tree

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.06.11 11:12:56 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 34) : :smile: You should be more specific. I quite like to make a lot of assumptions, veiled as questions.

    Thinking about it now, going to the Bulldogs might as well be a death sentence. Might want to be picked up by the Griquas in a year or two. Then play SR for the Cheatahs a year or so later. And finally come to the Sharks and underperform at inside center :mrgreen: .

    Although Meyer Bosman has been doing a lot better the latter part of the season. I also know he didn’t come from Griquas/Border , before someone thinks I am making assumptions about MB’s personal life. :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.06.11 11:20:49 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 37) : lmao hahahahahahah exactly it sucks that his obviously talented and going to a union like bulldogs and he thinks he had it bad at the sharks :P

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.06.11 11:25:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 31) : @Poisy (Comment 34) : please leave skin colour out of the discussion, as per the site rules.

    Final warning before we remove comments.

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.06.11 11:32:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Jenner quickly garnered attention due to his hard running and tackling. If this were a once-off, maybe we could shrug it off. But its not – he is the latest in a long line of juniors leaving the Sharks; to be replaced by 30+- year old veterans.

    Just waiting for the article about Dan Adongo leaving as well. :sad:

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.06.11 11:34:49 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 39) : I was just referencing the article. Thought you were in a positive mood today? :lol:
    Will not do it again, i apologize. FYI I have no issues with skin colour.

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.06.11 11:36:43 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 40) : Nooooooooo! You gonna jinx us! Don’t say that!

  • Comment 42, posted at 30.06.11 11:37:12 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 41) : you in trouble :P

  • Comment 43, posted at 30.06.11 11:38:42 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 43) : :sad:

  • Comment 44, posted at 30.06.11 11:42:21 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 44) : its ok, I’m no stranger to warnings from rob just try not do it again or pinched for the same infringement think like a flank ;)

  • Comment 45, posted at 30.06.11 11:45:34 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy:comment45: “think like a flank” lol :-D

  • Comment 46, posted at 30.06.11 11:51:24 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 45) : :lol: I’m also smiling because I have half-day today! Think I might go take a nap

  • Comment 47, posted at 30.06.11 11:55:47 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 47) : haha lucky you! I couldn’t buy sleep at this point I’m stuck at home with diarrhea sick leave :(

  • Comment 48, posted at 30.06.11 11:58:23 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 48) : Diarrhea of the mouth?
    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 49, posted at 30.06.11 12:00:31 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 49) : Just kidding, get well soon, I’m off

  • Comment 50, posted at 30.06.11 12:01:07 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Poisy (Comment 45) : you know there’s no malice intended, right? But rules is rules and they ensure we can all play happily…

  • Comment 51, posted at 30.06.11 12:01:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 50) : of both ends :( ,okay enjoy the rest of the day and your nap grandpa :D

  • Comment 52, posted at 30.06.11 12:02:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 51) : of course man, I get it it’s all good ;)

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  • @Poisy (Comment 53) : sweet feet

  • Comment 54, posted at 30.06.11 12:09:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 35) : Interesting, what is regarded as “doing well”.

  • Comment 55, posted at 30.06.11 12:21:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • very sad to lose a youngster, my thoughts on this is howerver a little different

    How many of the youngsters can we really keep and give game time?

    Looking at 12 and the top junior we have comming through as a 12 is Jordaan

    incombent is Bosman as well as JOubert is seen my Sharks coaching staff as a 12 and a 13,

    As for Jenner, i wish him well even though i dont think the Bulldogs is a positive move

  • Comment 56, posted at 30.06.11 12:23:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 35) : what school were you at.

  • Comment 57, posted at 30.06.11 12:27:07 by beet Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 40) : But have any of that long list gone on to greater things?

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 55) : @Salmonoid (Comment 58) : you raise a very good point, Salmo.

    Fact is… something is not right here though. I think I have mentioned this before.

    The Sharks contract a good number of top schoolboy stars each year, yet ridiculously few of them graduate through the ranks to the senior team. Why is that?

    1) Are we picking the wrong ones to start off with?
    2) Are we not developing them adequately?
    3) Are the senior coached ignoring obvious talent in the junior ranks and intentionally looking elsewhere?

    What’s your thought? I feel that it’s either 2 or 3…

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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : 3

  • Comment 60, posted at 30.06.11 12:39:37 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 58) : The guys get good grounding here + many of them who’s parents aren’t required to pay their way are very talented, so it’s inevitable that a few well succeed. Like Warren Whiteley and Cobus Caldo.
    But it’s a good point, until we start seeing a few players doing extremely well after they’ve effectively had the door shut in their faces or their contracts terminated, we can’t really fault the Sharks.
    Guys like Alberts and Mcleod played a big role in us winning the CC last year. If we’d promoted youngsters instead of recruiting we coluld possibly have been watching the final as neutrals.

  • Comment 61, posted at 30.06.11 12:40:10 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan:well plumtree said he has a wish list and nonu is on that list.kinda tells the youngsters at 12 something :-(

  • Comment 62, posted at 30.06.11 12:42:24 by bergshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : it could be all of those or none of them. The thing is if they showed enough real promise then even if missed by the Sharks they should be snapped up by one of the other big 5 unions or at worst one of the Currie Cup A section sides. Sharks Lover is right, every year there are guys coming through the system, add club players that are also considered and then the few places in senior squads that might become available are so few and far between.

  • Comment 63, posted at 30.06.11 12:44:31 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 58) :
    @robdylan (Comment 59) :
    Like Rob points out, its a complex issue. Beside the wasted expense of contracting players that did not turn out to be worth the investment (if we assume that those who leave are not worth keeping), there is also the lost opportunity of perhaps having signed better players instead.

    In addition to that, one must also allow that perhaps those youngsters do not go onto better things BECAUSE of the momentum they lost while in limbo in the Sharks junior ranks.

    Sounds harsh I know, but in the highly competitive world of SA rugby, a lost season or 2 can mean the difference between a good contract and a dead end.

  • Comment 64, posted at 30.06.11 12:46:47 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : Rob, 95% of Sharks fans don’t really care that much about the junior. They just want a winning senior team.

    It’s the priority of the Union to achieve success at top level.

    Juniors have to accept that most of them won’t make the cut here or at other top Unions either. However amongst the 100′s that come in there are a few that do make the grade.

    The reason we have so many guys coming in in the first place is because KZN is short on schoolboy talent.

  • Comment 65, posted at 30.06.11 12:50:55 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 61) : Thats it for me. I firmly believe that the Sharks management and team want to succeed as much if not more than we want them too and will therefore always do what is necessary in assembling the best team available. I want to believe that they know exactly what they have at their disposal within their structures and that if they feel that they are not good enough then they are not shy to look elsewhere for someone to fill the void. Surely not the ideal in promoting the academy or looking after the locals but probably the best way to put bums on stadium seats and silverware in the cabinet.

  • Comment 66, posted at 30.06.11 12:51:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Their are also only a limited number of good paying professional places available in SA rugby.

  • Comment 67, posted at 30.06.11 12:55:17 by beet Reply
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  • For what its worth, I love age group rugby and make a point of watching their games live if in the area and on TV, and that often means catching the game as a delayed broadcast at midnight. I would love it if all the guys from our junior ranks could go on to bigger things within the Shark family.

  • Comment 68, posted at 30.06.11 12:55:37 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 64) : I really hope that the academy is up to scratch and even better than most around. It will be really disappointing if players careers are set back by being at the academy.

  • Comment 69, posted at 30.06.11 12:59:23 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 66) : That’s exactly what I do. Hope the guys running the show do a good job or hope they are replaced if they’re not on the ball.

  • Comment 70, posted at 30.06.11 13:08:40 by beet Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) : Is there a danger that the selectors keep on looking for the next Frans Steyn or Patrick Lambie in the junior ranks and as a result a lot of potentially good players get ignored? Freakish-talent-tinted glasses if you will?

  • Comment 71, posted at 30.06.11 13:15:38 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I believe there is a lot more to the move of Dwayne to the Bulldogs than what is known at this early stage. I personally feel there are also other factors (positive) that influenced Dwayne’s decision. As a loyal follower and supporter (& Parent) of ZRA and all the players, I wish to acknowledge that this would have been an extremely difficult decision to make, and would like to applaud him. I know that we will be seeing a lot more of Dwayne in the future.

  • Comment 72, posted at 30.06.11 14:36:36 by LouisV Reply

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  • @LouisV (Comment 72) : Hi Louis. Are you able to give an update on Dillon Smit’s injury?

    Also who should we be on the lookup for coming out of ZRA’s new crop of u19s this year?

    No biggie if you don’t feel like commenting

  • Comment 73, posted at 30.06.11 14:47:51 by beet Reply
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  • @LouisV:thanks for the info.would you like to perhaps do some articles on the ZRA and club rugby scene in those parts?or maybe know of someone in those parts who would like to?be nice to get info on players,etc from those parts.just get in contact with robdylan ([email protected]).

  • Comment 74, posted at 30.06.11 14:51:27 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergsharks:sounds like I’m an engineer..?parts,parts,parts…hmmm?

  • Comment 75, posted at 30.06.11 14:53:11 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet: see we on the same wavelength :-)

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  • @LouisV (Comment 72) : oom louis – kyk asb jou facebook friend requests :)

  • Comment 77, posted at 30.06.11 15:49:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet:comment61: very,very good point.

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