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Another spat looming over “injured Boks”


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks, Springboks on 8 Jul 2011 at 08:39
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The Sharks today confirmed that their own medical staff will assess any of their contracted players who are deemed unfit to tour with the Springboks in the Tri-Nations.

The Springbok medical team announced a group of 21 players that were unavailable to be named for the tour squad, which will be named on Saturday, owing to injuries sustained during the course of the Super Rugby season. There is widespread speculation that this injury list is really a smokescreen to hide the fact that the Boks want to send a weakened side to Australia and New Zealand in order to keep their likely World Cup starters rested and fit. The announcement has already pissed the Australians off to no end, so I suppose in that sense it has already a huge amount of good.

The assumption was that the injured players would be put in cotton wool and possibly wheeled out for the home leg of the Tri Nations, depending on fitness. For Beast Mtawarira, Willem Alberts, JP Pietersen and the du Plessis brothers, though, this might not happen, since the Sharks seem hell bent on playing these guys in the Currie Cup should the medical team in Durban feel they are fit enough. Our information is that Alberts does have a properly stuffed shoulder, meaning it would be madness to play him any further, but the injuries picked up by the other four players are definitely new and of a slightly more spurious nature.

The Sharks, it seems, are to call SARU’s bluff here and if any of the guys who come back aren’t really injured, I guess they will be expected to play Currie Cup and I suspect the shit may just hit the fan at that point…

More as we get it.



29 Comments

  • I quote “medical staff will asses any”… I think that should be *assess*, otherwise it sounds like something that happens down in Cape Town… :twisted:

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.07.11 08:41:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Jeez, why the hell would we do that?? It’s idiotic! I would think that the Sharks medical guys can see the bigger picture with the whole WORLD CUP around the corner that we are trying to win…

    Let the guys “recover form their injuries”, or there is going to be kak if we play them in the CC. From SARU, SANZAR AFU, NZFU, flippen everybody. We’ll get murdered.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.07.11 08:49:23 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 1) : oops – sorry

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.07.11 09:07:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 2) : that’s what I meant by “shit hitting the fan” :)

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.07.11 09:08:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wow. It just shows what is more important to some people. National Duty, or Duty to your province??

    Springboks must come first. Otherwise we can forget about ever winning that golden trophy again…

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.07.11 09:25:05 by PTAShark Reply
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  • @PTAShark (Comment 5) : On the one hand I agree with you, but on the other hand there you have our national coach telling the world that these players are injured – its only right for the Sharks to find out if the uninjured players (their asset) they sent to Cape Town 2 days ago are suddenly injured. If the intention of the Boks is to send a watered down squad to the trinations then they must be brave and HONEST enough to do it without attempting to pull the wool over anyones eyes.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.07.11 09:46:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : I know, I’m being pedantic. It’s the dutchman in me wanting to prove I can hang with you souties.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.07.11 09:48:54 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Let the guys have a rest, injured or not. :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.07.11 10:27:04 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 8) : Unfortunately the SANZAR countries signed an agreement that they would play their best available teams. They now seemingly have to lie to get around giving their knackered players much needed rest. Its madness.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.07.11 10:44:13 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • What? Are the Sharks looking to dethrone the Bulls as the most hated SA union?

    Let’s be honest, if they had to get onto a plane to go play the World Cup next week 90% of these guys would be on it and playing.

    But this is about more than injuries preventing them from playing, it is about getting all the small niggles to heal properly which all of them would have been forced to play with during Super Rugby.

    It is also managing the PLAYERS!

    Depending for who the ‘medical experts’ work for, they will find a niggle/injury to sideline the player if it is in his employers best interest, or declare him fit regardless of niggles and minor injury concerns for the same reason.

    All rugby players play with injuries or niggles in anycase. Self serving bloody agendas piss me off.

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.07.11 10:50:04 by Morné Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 9) : I know, and I don’t care about Sanzar’s T’s and C’s. :razz: I want the best possible teams to play in the most important games, in this case the RWC.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.07.11 10:56:35 by Jarson (AddicteD) Reply
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  • Agreed Morne the Sharks r starting to get to me looks like management think that by winning cc will make up for a disapointing SR campaign!
    Which it doesn’t as I really do not whant to be the new Cheetahs winning cc and grabbing wooden spoons or average results in SR. Also not forgetting that our coach is a kiwi his allegiance lies not with the green and gold!

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.07.11 10:57:33 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Jarson (AddicteD) (Comment 11) :

    SANZAR’s T’s and C’s have been abused by NZ rugby in the past too, Super Rugby is also a SANZAR competition and falls under the same rules, this year, Henry ‘eased’ players back into Super Rugby and in 2007 he had a blanket Super Rugby ban.

    Screw SANZAR’s T’s and C’s, like most things they are in charge of it is never applied equally across the board.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.07.11 10:58:33 by Morné Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 12) :

    My question is for what purpose? What’s the point in doing this?

    Winning a Currie Cup?

    Do they actually think we care if there is a World Cup to be won?

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.07.11 11:00:26 by Morné Reply
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  • Okai, having said that I would prefer being like the Cheetahs rather than the Lions who win the wooden spoon for both :(

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.07.11 11:00:42 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Precisely Morne! Frankly I would prefer to have a SBless Cc and see all this young talent play and retain the Webb Ellis rather than win a cc using SB while the other unions are supporting the national cause so no SBS kind of makes winning the cc trophy meaningless then

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.07.11 11:06:27 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • “The announcement has already pissed the Australians off to no end, so I suppose in that sense it has already a huge amount of good.” :grin:

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.07.11 11:09:28 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 13) : I agree, screw SANZAR’s T&Cs, but be honest when you do it and then nail SARugby for being party to agreeing to it.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.07.11 11:10:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 17) : Somebody shoulld tell the Aussies that there is nothing stopping them from having 22 injuries when it comes to their turn to tour.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.07.11 11:13:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I can see this getting ugly.

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.07.11 11:13:24 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 14) : totally agree! This is RWC year! The Sharks really have to think this one through.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.07.11 11:16:23 by catfish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 19) : SA always have to go OTT…cannot do things subtly…good idea for resting the players – bad execution of the plan though! :twisted: :mrgreen: I mean – 21 at one time…could have mad it in rations…5 here, 4 there, 3 here… :lol:

  • Comment 22, posted at 08.07.11 11:17:59 by Ice Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 19) : John O’Neill: “We’re not in a position to second-guess the Springboks, and we also have our share of injured players. But it is nowhere near 21. The sheer size of the number of players who are injured is unusual.”

    Three thing come to mind John:
    1. You can barely scrape together enough players for four unions.
    2. SA has club champs, the Varsity Cup, the Vodacom Cup, the Currie Cup and Super Rugby. A lot of our players are involved in more than one competition during the year.
    3. We play proper Super Rugby – not the game of touchies your derbies seem to dish up.

    But yes, you’re right. It’s very unusual! :roll:

  • Comment 23, posted at 08.07.11 11:24:01 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 23) : Sorry I agree…21 is a bit unusually huge group…but then again – it was a huge SR season and perhaps our player management was not the best – resulting in this situation..?

  • Comment 24, posted at 08.07.11 11:28:04 by Ice Reply
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  • guys – in reality this probably won’t develop into anything.

    What I didn’t realise at the time is that SARU has in any case issued a blanker ban on their contracted players being used in the Currie Cup this season.

    That means that Best, JP and the DuP’s cannot be played (contractually) regardless of injuries.

    The only guy who doesn’t fall into this category is Alberts and we know that he’s genuinely injured.

  • Comment 25, posted at 08.07.11 11:31:27 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 24) : I think it’s very possible. A ‘niggle’ as Morne mentioned may not be considered a injury at this point in time but it should be. Heinrich Brussouw was rushed back into the Cheetahs squad on several occasions with niggles and as a result he missed out on most of the Super Rugby season. I fear that Willem Alberts is in pretty much the same boat now.

    With the amount of playing time the guys are facing this year – any ‘niggle’ should be considered a full-blown injury. Their future careers depend on it in my opinion.

  • Comment 26, posted at 08.07.11 11:38:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 26) : As i concurred with my second part of my statement. ;-)

  • Comment 27, posted at 08.07.11 11:49:09 by Ice Reply
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  • Eish – Hold thumbs! My sisters son is playing for Griquas under 14 in a final against Northern Freestate at 12h10!!

  • Comment 28, posted at 08.07.11 12:01:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 27) : Wasn’t meant to come across as counter-argument – just elaborating on why I think the injury list wasn’t fabricated.

    I think SARU occasionally gets it right and unlike many other bloggers (here and elswhere) I think this is one of those rare occasions. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 08.07.11 12:13:20 by vanmartin Reply
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