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Staaldraad II


Written by Jonathan Burt (VinChainSaw)

Posted in :Original Content, RWC 2011, Springboks, Tri Nations on 28 Jul 2011 at 14:10
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With 42 days left to the opening of the Rugby World Cup, an embattled coach taking flack on foreign soil for his selections, the Boks coming off the back of a loss to the Australians and with the All Blacks looming in a couple of days, it was left to South Africa’s very own, self-styled Rebekah Brookes to break the worst-kept secret in SA Rugby.

For those of you that have been visiting relatives in caves this week I’m referring, of course, to the “revelation” from the three-letter site that the supposedly injured Springboks that are not on tour are attending a training camp in Rustenberg under the watchful eye of technical guru Rassie Erasmus.

To put this in perspective, the 2011 World Cup is almost certainly a swansong for a good number of senior players and also the end of the contractual line for the coach. We are defending the World Cup on foreign soil, indeed the foreign soil being that of our fiercest rival over the ages.

Yet, in a World Cup year, the Boks were expected to play an extended Super Rugby competition and were then expected to fly to Australia and New Zealand for a couple of games, fly back to South Africa for a couple of games on home soil and then a couple of weeks later fly back half-way across the world to the place they played only a couple of weeks before. A flight from Jozi to New Zealand is a mammoth 20 hours and the time difference is 10 hours. For those of you that have ever travelled long-haul you’ll appreciate the resultant debilitating jet-lag effect. Now imagine fighting that sort of jet-lag three times in a month in the lead-up to the biggest tournament of your career, and for a large part of the senior squad, the last time they’ll ever pull the hallowed green ‘n gold over their heads.

For our antipodean compatriots this simply isn’t the case. They fly over to SA for one game, play it and go home. If they play their cards right they’ll simply keep the same sleeping patterns and the jetlag will be a no-go. Further to this, you show me a professional rugby player that doesn’t carry some sort of niggle at any point during the season and I’ll show you an honest politician. Of course the likes of Australia appreciate this which is why they made a stink of it in the first place. The Springboks being one of four sides that are likely to win the tournament, getting the contenders down to three is obviously in their best interests.

Its worth noting that the current Sanzar regulations are different to the ones in place in 2007 when Jake White took a weakened team Down Under. The three Sanzar nations are now contractually obliged to play their strongest team in the Trinations, as a condition of the broadcasting agreement. I can go into details of how this arose but suffice to say it has Grubby o’Neill’s paw prints all over it.

This leaves de Villiers in a very tight spot. Does he choose to send a fatigued team to the away leg of the Trinations or does he allow his players time to get over their injuries and niggles and allow them the chance to go to the World Cup rested and ready? He chose the latter. I never like it when we don’t play our best side but I can look past my own nose and appreciate the reasoning behind what is a very astute decision. Whilst the majority of those players probably could’ve played in the TriNations, technically they are all probably injured. This also gets around the farce of playing the toughest tournament in world rugby in the month leading up to the most important.

This leads us to our three-letter friends and their relentless pursuit of a “scoop”. In their infinite wisdom they felt it necessary to “out” the Bok management for their little scheme to rest their top players. It’s not like it was really a secret; did they expect the Boks to sit at home until the World Cup next month? Notably the website in question used to use the catch phrase “home of South African rugby and cricket fans”. That tag-line has recently disappeared from the site, presumably along with their support for the Boks. I’m just bewildered at what they expected de Villiers to do? After leaving the team at home was he really expected to go on Australian national television and confirm that the team was indeed at a camp, along with all the recriminations and possible legal issues that would subsequently ensue? He was caught in the eye-blind and really had no choice but to go along with the charade. Everybody knew the score, everybody knew what was going on and everybody played along in the national interest.  Everybody, that is, except a few Cape Town based journalists who are more interested in their jobs and hits on their website than the sport that provides them with said jobs.

The backlash amongst the posters on the website was severe. Granted there were many that agreed with the author but many, many more saw this for what it was: an unwarranted cheap shot on a man they have a long-standing vendetta with and all this in the lead-up to the greatest tournament of the year and his career. Lets not forget this is the same website that supposedly had a sex tape of de Villiers in an East London car park. This tape, despite the hype generated, failed to see the light of day and disappeared along with the player who supposedly attempted to use it to blackmail the coach.

Personally I’m disappointed and disgusted. There were many people that publicly and privately supported the journalist in question through all the sagas of his career, mostly in the interests of freedom of speech. This is the same journalist who caused controversy for Nick Mallett, Rudolph Streuli and Jake White. I see a pattern developing here. It was a cheap shot and completely unwarranted. The headlines of “PdV’s a liar” were sensationalist and in bad taste given the circumstance. When challenged in the comments section the response from another writer was as follows: “That explains your poor knowledge of the game. But keep visiting the site to interact with fans, you’re still putting money in our pockets.”

Whether the comment was tongue in cheek to me is irrelevant as it tells me all I need to know about the motivations of this mob.

The saddest part for me is that the journalist that actually penned the article is a very good scribe and has/had a bright future ahead of him. It’s one thing to fall from grace as a well-respected journalist that at one time wrote for the Sunday Times (and received numerous awards) to this sort of gutter churnalism. It’s a whole different game to start off your career writing articles of this bent.

This was followed by a terrible television broadcast on the site which saw the presenter licking his fingers while pretending to eat Nandos and openly ridiculing the coach. Exceptionally poor taste I thought.

I urge all real fans to ignore the three-letter clowns. There’s a reason the Boks are discouraged, if not down-right banned, from talking to them.

Whether you support de Villiers as a coach is irrelevant; with 6 weeks until the start of the greatest sports competition in the world (in my humble opinion of course) it’s time to put the squabbling behind us and unite behind the coach and the team. We have a World Cup to defend and this in the back-yard of our greatest nemesis. We simply don’t need our own media putting the boot in at this point. We get enough of that from the Australian press.



219 Comments

  • Sorry folks, had a few issues with the paragraph formatting. Working on it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.07.11 14:15:48 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Your message is clear Vin. And I like it. Good read.

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.07.11 14:17:07 by Morné Reply
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  • Good read. The main guy on that side is one massive chop, and he has been for quite a while. I’ve stopped reading his drivel years ago.

    It’s quite understandable that the bokke does not talk to hom/them, since he/they are more interested in the money they can make from a story than the game itself. The worst thing isn’t that they don’t support the Springbokke, it’s that they have no respect for the game itself. They’ll write anything about anybody to get some hits.

    It’s a sports Tabloid, and I don’t read crap thank you very much.

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.07.11 14:19:52 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Well said Vinnie :grin: – now how’s about putting spme paragraphs in there?? :lol:

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.07.11 14:21:19 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 4) : Scrap that last sentence! :lol:

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.07.11 14:22:08 by Ice Reply
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  • There’s a site with only 3 letters? :shock: Never heard of it. :twisted:

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.07.11 14:23:39 by JarsonX Reply
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  • And don’t tune me ever again that I write long articles!

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.07.11 14:25:05 by Morné Reply
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  • Thanks folks. I’m just annoyed that we can be so self-destructive.

    And this from the man that had a go at the Cape Crusaders for being disloyal. I wonder if he can evern spell hypocrite.

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.07.11 14:25:11 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 7) :

    :grin:

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.07.11 14:25:39 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Vinnie.What an article.What a boykie.

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.07.11 14:27:23 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Morné (Comment 7) : :lol:

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.07.11 14:28:21 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Shady Pines online… the place where rugby journos go to die…

    I enjoy your articles Vin!

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.07.11 14:31:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • well penned…

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.07.11 14:33:23 by Megatron Reply

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  • Great Arti Vinnie!

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.07.11 14:33:59 by molly Reply
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  • very good work, Vincenzo!

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.07.11 14:34:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 8) : Excellent comment too, you’re on a roll. :smile:

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.07.11 14:35:23 by molly Reply
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  • Great article Vinny. I agree with the majority of what you say. I do still feel that we should have sent a few more first choice players over and only rested the absolute key guys like Matfield, Burger, Bismark etc. Some of the other guys could do with game time as they didn’t play that much Super 15 rugby!

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.07.11 14:37:46 by Villie Reply
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  • Amen Vin! Funny I was bored enough just now to go on that three letter word saw that article and went out immediatelly! Scum that is all!

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.07.11 14:41:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 9) : Is this article written in your underhanded (chick-style)tactics”style??
    :mrgreen:

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/about

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.07.11 14:42:08 by Ice Reply
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  • Wow Vinnie!!

    I had goosebumps while reading this!! ;-) :shock:

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.07.11 14:42:54 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 20) : It seems me and Vin are on the same “level” today! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.07.11 14:47:42 by Ice Reply
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  • “gutter churnalim”… Vinnie, that phrase is imbued with the unmistakable sheen of perfection; brilliant!

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.07.11 14:48:11 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Mmmm…unfortunately money and limelight grabs journalists who dont care about anything,anyone but themselves bla bla bla the consequences nevertheless run deep ruining peoples lives and careers and smearing rugby. Why cant people and coaches alike come together and assist for a world cup year. Its a sad state of affairs. Yes PDV is not my choice but instead of downing him rather get resources like Jake White to come and assist amongst others. Pride before the fall is our worst enemy as well as cutting the nose to spite the face scenario. Cmon people and that includes coaches give support and HELP our green and gold to bring back that little cup where it belongs…Here in the RSA. Go BOKKE!!! Wys hulle wie is die beste.

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.07.11 14:49:53 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • These days it’s all about hits to your website; that’s how you convince advertisers that your site is worth advertising on. Most professional sites encourage interaction within the boundaries of relevant discussion. But that turd of a website gets hits from inciting race wars. South African journalism is amateur at best, but the feeble potty-mouthed bigots on that website aren’t even worthy of being called journalists.

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.07.11 14:50:57 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : Eish, and then I go and f*** up the spelling :roll:

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.07.11 14:56:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 24) : quite right, if Sharkswaorld would post less Sharks-biased articles i’m sure they would get more hits :lol: :mrgreen: :sad:

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.07.11 14:57:39 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 25) : HAHAHA!! I thought WTF…??

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.07.11 15:01:17 by Ice Reply
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  • Besides SHARKS FANS, why even go to that website? They never have anything good to say about our team anyway. When our boys lose, they are “insipid” “pathetic” “clueless” “clumsy” and when we win we are “lucky” “scrape past” “flatter to deceive” etc.

    I had to laugh the other day when i saw one of his own amateurish video projects on his site, looking more like Jabba The Hut everyday, he ran his Stormers team into the ground and totally disowned them for their loss to the Crusaders. Childish, really.

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.07.11 15:02:03 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 26) :

    Is that a compliment?? :shock: ;-)

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.07.11 15:03:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 26) : Hey, we already got sneaky WP fans on this site punting their team and a kiwi highlanders fan for goodness sakes! :grin:

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.07.11 15:06:49 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 30) : Yes but we have VERY thick skins, and we like messing with you guys ;-)

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.07.11 15:09:19 by molly Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 28) : rubbish, keo called your team the “SuperSharks” and said they’re the only team in SA playing intelligent rugby – that was after your 1st four games when it all still looked honkey dorey…then you started losing against the chiefs :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.07.11 15:10:12 by Megatron Reply

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  • This is a majority sharks supporter communit-i … Stormers lets face it are the modern chokers with a star studded line up…we the little sharks create legends …not so long ago I remember how the wp fans downed Montgomery and we the sharks took him with raised eyebrows …nevertheless we made him an even better fullback and bok player. So please stop whinging about us and get on with it…oh you thought with Habana you were going to win a cup..+oops w

  • Comment 33, posted at 28.07.11 15:14:39 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 32) : Have to disagree when weighing up the majority of articles written about the Sharks. Yes sure, that website may go thru the odd patch of complimenting teams other than their beloved Stormers but as a whole, it’s usually cheap shots directed at the other franchises.

  • Comment 34, posted at 28.07.11 15:14:52 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Why is so much time being wasted on this “B” Team? Who cares except the countries that want a weakened Bok team to pitch up at the RWC. Well done PDV SARU and every one else in on this plan. Tri nations is a snore and means squat in a World Cup year. So whine away, it won’t change a thing. The Boks have a World Cup to try and retain, they must do what they must. Who says that injured Boks cannot do strategic planning and mental strengthening on a camp? A camp doesn’t mean everyone is fit and healthy.

  • Comment 35, posted at 28.07.11 15:19:11 by waje Reply

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  • @waje (Comment 35) : well, it was a bunch of south africans that gave kiwis “ammunition” against our coach. so we can’t fault the kiwis, they’ve been duped by mark keohane. but my patience wears thin when an explanation is given to them and they still go on like some conspiracy is at play here…

    then i say f*ck ‘em!

  • Comment 36, posted at 28.07.11 15:24:20 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 25) : Don’t worry Culling Song. It happens to all of us. You’re praise of Vin’s good choice of words is shared. :smile:

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.07.11 15:25:01 by beet Reply
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  • Very well written Vinnie!! :clappinghands:

    Can I copy and paste this to every thread on Voldy????? Please???

    I’ll leave the site and the name out!

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.07.11 15:29:12 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 33) :

    The Sharks signed him when he returned from playing his rugby in Wales!!

    WP actually developed him into the LEGEND he is today!! :twisted:

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.07.11 15:29:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 38) :

    It has already been sent to Keo on twitter!! :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 40, posted at 28.07.11 15:31:10 by wpw Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 33) : Pretty sure Monty credits his stint in Wales as developing his allround game.Also he will go down in history as a WP legend #justsaying ;-)

  • Comment 41, posted at 28.07.11 15:32:42 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @ wpw … I am well aware that he played in Wales but where did he play last …and it was the likes of Smit and Jake who pulled him back. Turn back the pages or even google it :)

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.07.11 15:34:53 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : Yes, but the Aussies and Kiwis have been just as bad. We had to put up with the shit s15 format that the Aussies cocked up and won the trophy with. We had to watch a s14 tournament devoid of Kiwi stars for six weeks in 2007. We supply the greatest numbers of viewers and cash to SANZAR yet we suck the hind tit with displinery hearings and general decisions. The time has come that SARU grow a spine and stand up to the other partners. They should also look at getting Argentina on their side to add more clout.

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.07.11 15:38:04 by waje Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 42) : Speaking of pages, im almost done reading his biography. Dudes wedding pics are NAF!

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.07.11 15:38:24 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 42) :

    So you want to give the Sharks credit for his performances when he returned to SA?? bwahahahahaha

    Your arrogance knows no bounds me thinks!!

    Jake was the one responsible for his return not Smit!! :roll:

  • Comment 45, posted at 28.07.11 15:42:38 by wpw Reply
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  • I do not agree that Wales bred him into a better player…and why did he not go back to his beloved province? Truth is they never wanted him back when Rassie took over as coach…please go back in the story book and see for yourself…ridiculous isnt it?

  • Comment 46, posted at 28.07.11 15:42:48 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @wpw omg ….who spoke of arrogance typical cape thinking mate… I suggest you read his biography again without missing some pages hahahahaha oh i guess you skipped the part when he played his best rugby at the SHARKS…now that is what i call arrogant truth.

  • Comment 47, posted at 28.07.11 15:50:49 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 46) :

    Percy returned in 2004 when Rassie was coach of the Cheetahs!!

    Get your facts straight young man!! :twisted: :roll:

  • Comment 48, posted at 28.07.11 15:52:03 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 45) : why bother, the sharks will say they made marius joubert better by the end of this currie cup :D

  • Comment 49, posted at 28.07.11 15:52:19 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 49) : :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 50, posted at 28.07.11 15:53:31 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 49) : wonder what their argument for Bosman is… ag, sure they’ll blame the Cheetahs for selling them faulty merchandise :twisted:

  • Comment 51, posted at 28.07.11 15:54:43 by molly Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 49) :

    I wonder what they’ll say about Meyer Bosman!! :twisted:

  • Comment 52, posted at 28.07.11 15:55:18 by wpw Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 51) :

    snap!! :shock:

  • Comment 53, posted at 28.07.11 15:55:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 51) : bwahahahahahahaaha comment of the day Molls, you’re the best :lol: :grin:

  • Comment 54, posted at 28.07.11 16:00:52 by Megatron Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 51) : @wpw (Comment 52) : Are you guys trying to ruin a good relationship with Sharksworld by introducing logic!? Tut, tut… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 28.07.11 16:00:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 42) : Pretty sure Monty played his last season for WP.

  • Comment 56, posted at 28.07.11 16:01:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I’m bewildered that so many of you visit the short site

  • Comment 57, posted at 28.07.11 16:05:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I urge all real fans to ignore the three-letter clowns. There’s a reason the Boks are discouraged, if not down-right banned, from talking to them.

    Whether you support de Villiers as a coach is irrelevant; with 6 weeks until the start of the greatest sports competition in the world (in my humble opinion of course) it’s time to put the squabbling behind us and unite behind the coach and the team. We have a World Cup to defend and this in the back-yard of our greatest nemesis. We simply don’t need our own media putting the boot in at this point. We get enough of that from the Australian press.

    These are very true words and great article chainsaw ;-)

    Its time people stopped their stupid deviding crap and supported who ever is coaching or playing for the Boks

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 57) : I don’t, I know it is only three letters, but for some reason I just can’t spell it! :mrgreen: :razz:

  • Comment 59, posted at 28.07.11 16:09:56 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • I see that i am amongst some pretty ardent weepee fans but nevertheless i say it again that monty played better at the SHARKS and to rub some salt into the wounds the fullback position looks way better than Apron oops i mean aplon being there…teeheee..go Lambie show them how to do it

  • Comment 60, posted at 28.07.11 16:13:33 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • Snap-crakkle-pop!

  • Comment 61, posted at 28.07.11 16:26:39 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • Very well said Vinny! Couldn’t agree with you more!

  • Comment 62, posted at 28.07.11 16:27:51 by Ben Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 51) : faulty merchandise :lol: i demand a refund.

  • Comment 63, posted at 28.07.11 16:35:24 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 60) : Lambie’s great and all as most on this site would attest to but don’t knock Gio Aplon. He’s a pretty awesome player and leagues ahead of ol’ Sideshow Bob.

  • Comment 64, posted at 28.07.11 16:37:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 63) : or a trade in for your older model, the Strauss2010 Model?

  • Comment 65, posted at 28.07.11 16:52:28 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 65) : that’s right and as a “forgive us” token they can add one of the Ebersohns :lol:

    this Cheetahs are absolutely shocking how could they give him to us in the first place. :roll: :lol:

  • Comment 66, posted at 28.07.11 16:57:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 56) : perhaps AleterEgo meant last time that he was good :mrgreen:

  • Comment 67, posted at 28.07.11 16:59:11 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) : hahahaha :lol:

  • Comment 68, posted at 28.07.11 17:00:29 by molly Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 66) : imagine whats going to happen when the Waratah’s open their purchase :lol:

  • Comment 69, posted at 28.07.11 17:02:05 by molly Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 67) : :lol: didn’t know if anyone would notice it. :grin:

    Just one point, did Monty get a single CC cap for the Sharks? As I recall, we brought back Oom Stef because we were not going to have Monty’s services during the CC since he was away with the Boks. This was also why and when we moved Stef to 15.

  • Comment 70, posted at 28.07.11 17:04:55 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @ wpw you do not know your rugby history as Rassie was still playing for cheetahs in 2004 and took over a head coach @ WP in july 2007 ??????? Like i said stop reading that mis print you got even better please google it you might get better results…@ vanmatin or can i call you van for short …aplon is a fly by night wanna be …he is not a springbok but a one game injured paradox. He scores a few tries and everyone jumps up and down in your wp springbok camp …he can only attack …cannot kick or defend …please get some glasses and look deeper.

  • Comment 71, posted at 28.07.11 17:06:15 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 70) : not to my knowledge. Monty was with the Sharks in 2007 only and none of the WC boks participated in 2007 CC.

  • Comment 72, posted at 28.07.11 17:06:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 72) : According to Wikipedia, Monty came to the Sharks in the 2005 CC season, and accumulated 4 CC caps between then and 2007. He played Super Rugby for the Sharks in 2006 and 2007.

  • Comment 73, posted at 28.07.11 17:08:45 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 69) : quickly Sharks quickly before Tahs get the entire Cheetahs team :mrgreen:

  • Comment 74, posted at 28.07.11 17:09:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 73) : 18 Super Rugby caps for the Sharks.

  • Comment 75, posted at 28.07.11 17:10:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 71) : You’re serious about that arent you?

  • Comment 76, posted at 28.07.11 17:10:49 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • As I recall, Monty went to Perpignan after RWC 2007, played for one season, then Joined WP for the 2008 CC season.

  • Comment 77, posted at 28.07.11 17:11:42 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 73) : sheez – i can’t remember him playing for the Sharks then. :oops: but I have a vague recollection that 2004 was his last year abroad.

  • Comment 78, posted at 28.07.11 17:11:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 77) : that’s right and I think he sat on the bench most of that time.

  • Comment 79, posted at 28.07.11 17:12:25 by rekinek Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 71) : that must be the “ego” part talking, cos u’re talking rubbish…aplon has consistently shut a lot of critics & doubters with his defence.

    his kicking in not worse than kirchner’s, taute’s or ludik’s.

    if gio played in a back 3 of maitland & guilford his attacking prowess would be very much enhanced as israel dagg’s has.

  • Comment 80, posted at 28.07.11 17:12:35 by Megatron Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 78) : i mean before Perpignan.

  • Comment 81, posted at 28.07.11 17:12:44 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 80) : i don’t think kicking is his forte, but he is not bad defensively – at leastt committed.

  • Comment 82, posted at 28.07.11 17:14:24 by rekinek Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 71) : Aplon is a very good defender actually. Aplon’s only real problem is his short stature which makes him less effective under the high ball. With JP Pietersen being a very tall wing, he can help Aplon out in this regard. Aplon is streets better than you give him credit for, his size really being his only drawback, and he has no control over that. I love the fact a smaller player can be successful, even on the international stage, Rugby is still a game for multiple body types!

  • Comment 83, posted at 28.07.11 17:16:03 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 83) : Yeah.What you said.

  • Comment 84, posted at 28.07.11 17:17:41 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 82) : wasn’t it gio slotting in a drop-goal sometime this year?

    i’m not saying he is a great kicker, but is taute, for instance, a renowned kicker? how about mils muliaina? :roll:

  • Comment 85, posted at 28.07.11 17:18:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 84) : Just not sure my body type still has a place though. :grin: :wink:

  • Comment 86, posted at 28.07.11 17:19:01 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 85) : In my opinion, Aplon is an adequate to decent kicker at 15. And there is not a more committed defender around.

  • Comment 87, posted at 28.07.11 17:20:16 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 86) : Hehehe I too am guilty of being on the Ricki J diet.Look how that turned out for him.

  • Comment 88, posted at 28.07.11 17:20:43 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • ok, everyone thats having a go at AlterEgo or defending Gio, please inform him who you support, since he’s new to the site I don’t think he understands that most peeps here can show impartiality to players in other teams, if they deserve it.

    I am a WP/Stormer supporter… and proud-ish ;-)

  • Comment 89, posted at 28.07.11 17:21:17 by molly Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 88) : Actually, I have lost a lot of weight, now I am just short and small. :lol:

  • Comment 90, posted at 28.07.11 17:22:15 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 89) : My avatar doesn’t allow for much guesswork

  • Comment 91, posted at 28.07.11 17:23:18 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 85) : no they aren’t. and I think that good fullback should be a good kicker – that’s why I prefer Aplon at wing.

  • Comment 92, posted at 28.07.11 17:23:31 by rekinek Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 89) : I hate the Stormers with a passion :grin: Just kidding, but there is not a longer suffering Sharks fan around this site than me. I would still take Lambie over Gio any day, but Aplon is a damned good player. Considering that both Steyntjie and Lambie would rather play 10 or 12, Aplon is probably the best fullback in SA at the moment.

  • Comment 93, posted at 28.07.11 17:24:25 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 89) : Molly , this is so nice of you. I note that you limited your comment to players in other teams :mrgreen:

  • Comment 94, posted at 28.07.11 17:25:58 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 92) : Just a thought reki…..Oom Stef was not a very good kicker for a majority of his career. Only after he moved back to the Sharks and started playing 15 did he really put the effort into improving his kicking game, becoming a very good kicker. I strongly believe a player like Aplon can learn to use the boot very effectively. Again, just my opinion.

  • Comment 95, posted at 28.07.11 17:26:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 93) : who knows what steyntie wants to play :roll: just now he becomes loosie with these extra kgs. :lol:

  • Comment 96, posted at 28.07.11 17:27:10 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 96) : Prop??? :wink: He is pretty tall though, perhaps 4 lock??? :lol:

  • Comment 97, posted at 28.07.11 17:28:40 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 93) : I’d take Lambie at 10 any day of the week! I’d also have a Willem Alberts in my loose trio.

  • Comment 98, posted at 28.07.11 17:29:09 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 51) : @wpw (Comment 52) : They’ll look South and say “Oh hell, it could have been worse, it could have been Habana”

  • Comment 99, posted at 28.07.11 17:29:55 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 95) : Hmm… I never thought of Stef as an excellent kicker. Mainly because I reckon that he does not have enough length on his kicks and it is often not out when it should be.

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 99) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 101, posted at 28.07.11 17:30:48 by rekinek Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 98) : oh… and where to start in the front row…

  • Comment 102, posted at 28.07.11 17:31:05 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 98) : I would rather see Lambie at 10 than 15, and Aplon at 15, but if PdV is going to insist on retaining M. Steyn, then I would prefer Lambie at 15 to Aplon. I also think we (South Africa) needs to stop this moving of backline players around. I have always believed that if Frans Steyn was ever given a chance to settle at either 10, 12 or 15, he would be superb, but even in France he is moved around. I know that Steyn and Lambie are supremely talented rugby players, and may be better out of position than some playing in their preferred position, but moving them around is just not good for their future in my opinion.

    Let’s look at all the SA players that have been moved around like that, Gaffie, Brent Russell, Ruan, Frans and now Lambie. I get why you would want a young flyhalf to play at 12 beside an experienced 10, but to then shift to 15, is just asking too much, and you know that Lambie will be used at some point on the wing.

  • Comment 103, posted at 28.07.11 17:33:46 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 73) : I saw Monty playing in a CC game for the Sharks at Newlands. He was bood, it was expected.

  • Comment 104, posted at 28.07.11 17:35:10 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 100) : Stef is used at the Sharks for kickoffs, because he gets super height, and places the ball very well. The only other Sharks player on a par is Lambie. Personally I think Stef has good length on his kicks, but he kicks far too often while playing 13. He could be more consistent finding touch though, but he is a good kicker now.

  • Comment 105, posted at 28.07.11 17:35:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 104) : Yeah, I posted earlier that he earned 4 Currie Cup caps for the Sharks between 2005 and 2007. 1 1/3 caps per season. :lol:

  • Comment 106, posted at 28.07.11 17:36:02 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 103) : I’m hoping Lambie will get to settle at 10 next year, he is the future of that position. I’m ok with him shifting at the moment, but next year he MUST settle, and preferably at 10.

  • Comment 107, posted at 28.07.11 17:36:20 by molly Reply
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  • Lol… Lets see…so we can safely say that APRON had a bad day at the office? This is the big league a stage to show case your critics wrong. He let through two tries very poor tackling on the cover mind you and twice butterfingered open tries??? Confused or was it nerves. I think it would be better if he wore a wp shirt under the green and gold for better performance and protection. To spill one ball understandable but two inexcusable … Aplon is not springbok material and so wasnt watson. Jake would never have selected Aplon

  • Comment 108, posted at 28.07.11 17:36:36 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @molly (Comment 107) : No disrespect molly, but this is where we part, I don’t think it helps him at all to shift him to 15, in fact I think it hurts. The only position that he should be shifted to is 12, where he can learn from an experienced 10 (like Michalak). I understand why the coaches would want to play him at 15, he is very good there, but I think it will ultimately stifle his development somewhat.

  • Comment 109, posted at 28.07.11 17:39:57 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 108) : Jake was a sizist, he would not have selected Heinrich Brussow either, and we all know how good he was in 2009. Just because Jake would not have selected him means nothing other than he is too small in Jake’s mind.

  • Comment 110, posted at 28.07.11 17:41:22 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 108) : And his name is Aplon, unless you have earned some provincial or national caps, you need to show some respect!

  • Comment 111, posted at 28.07.11 17:42:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 109) : some shifting is not bad better that that no game time at all – the problem always gonna be how much shifting is too much.

  • Comment 112, posted at 28.07.11 17:48:41 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 112) : I get why Lambie was brought in at 15 last season, but once they decided to move him to 10/12, he should not have been shifted again, it will hurt his career, mark my words.

  • Comment 113, posted at 28.07.11 17:50:17 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 113) : i guess so :roll:

  • Comment 114, posted at 28.07.11 17:54:36 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear:good point.dan carter was also nursed into the fh pos at the saders,playing @12 alongside mehrtens.

  • Comment 115, posted at 28.07.11 17:58:50 by bergshark Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 114) : It is just that I have yet to see a player that was shifted around like this ever reach their full potential. Who knows how much of a better 9 Ruan would have been if he was not messed around like he was, so now he is a decent 9 and a mediocre 10. He should have been a world class 9, perhaps even the best in the world, but alas that is not to be now. Gaffie was another example, supremely talented but never reached his potential. Is it also coincidence that Smittie’s career started going downhill when he was moved around as well. I have yet to see a player do well in this scenario, if you know of one, please tell me.

  • Comment 116, posted at 28.07.11 17:59:10 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 115) : I have no problem with Lambie playing 12 instead of 10, but I don’t want to see him shifted back to fullback, even if he is the best fullback we have available. Just my opinion.

  • Comment 117, posted at 28.07.11 18:00:07 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Now to support other players meisiekind and johnson derserve the bench …Morne does not deserve another chance and Ruan is definately rusty. The best players on the park were Dannie and Mvovo until Lambie, Kankowski and Adi came on and also chilliboy. Smit and chilli scored tries…why? Because the pack played closer and there were not anymore wanna be individual players.if we played the last 20 from the beginning the Aussies wouid have not come close. Steyn put no pressure on cooper and Ruan on genia…if you close down genia and cooper what is Australia. …think about it.!

  • Comment 118, posted at 28.07.11 18:01:17 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • Brilliant piece Vinnie! Glad someone has called it as it is.

    I don’t waste my time on that site, and I pity anyone who takes what’s written there as news.

  • Comment 119, posted at 28.07.11 18:02:32 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 118) : I have a feeling you will find that Butch will be the starting 10 for the RWC with Lambie on the bench, Steyn nowhere to be found for the big matches. Once again, just my opinion.

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 120) : And to nip the inevitable Butch can’t kick for poles comments in the bud, Butch has been close to an 80% goalkicker when asked to kick for goal at Bath.

  • Comment 121, posted at 28.07.11 18:05:18 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Yes,please!introduce the likes of cooper,sbw to butchie’s shoulder (evil)

  • Comment 122, posted at 28.07.11 18:09:16 by bergshark Reply

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  • Let’s see: anyone think the aussie pack will be able to front-up for 80min against a fired-up bok pack containing the likes of danie rossouw,juan smith,bakkies & vic,brussow/burger,bissie?

  • Comment 123, posted at 28.07.11 18:11:43 by bergshark Reply

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  • I can call him apron as i see others call out stef and oupa …i am entitled to my opinion as well i backed it with facts. Respect for aplon …i have never rated him and the proof is in the pudding…the aussies knew that and worked him out during the supers actually the ABs (crusaders) proved it…why is wynand called meisiekind so i like to call aplon …Apron as he cant handle the kitchen…its tOoooo hot…so be it

  • Comment 124, posted at 28.07.11 18:13:24 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • Add to that the aggresive tackling of butchie at 10,hougaard at 9 and a physical centre combo of f steyn and j fourie?

  • Comment 125, posted at 28.07.11 18:13:35 by bergshark Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 124) : Clearly you have not been here long enough to truly know how we refer to Stef. Yes, we call him oupa, or Oom Stef, but that is out of respect for his experience. Yes we criticize him, but I think you will find that everyone here has great respect for what Oom Stef has done for Sharks rugby. You really can not compare your insulting name for Aplon to calling Stef Oom or Oupa.

  • Comment 126, posted at 28.07.11 18:16:44 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Would like to have seen adriaan strauss get gametime on tour.talk about a waste ..!

  • Comment 127, posted at 28.07.11 18:20:23 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 127) : I agree, but I think our RWC hookers will be Smit, Bissie and Chili.

  • Comment 128, posted at 28.07.11 18:21:37 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Boring …kick for posts is that our stereo typed game play for the boks? Then we are doomed showing we have no faith in our backline and forwards…where is steyns drop goal shake up as not one attempt was made against the aussies???showing no game plan as cooper was standing deep as well.

  • Comment 129, posted at 28.07.11 18:25:41 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 129) : Seriously, like the Boks are going to let the world know what their game plan for the RWC is going to be by utilizing it in a meaningless Tri-Nations match against Aus, with our B team? You seem very naive to me.

  • Comment 130, posted at 28.07.11 18:33:32 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • How about smit going to the wc as a non-playing member of the team..?I know:people will say:stop attacking smit’s play and form..but imho I think the boks and sarugby should take him to the wc in some sort of non-playing capacity.he has,by the sound of things,a lot of respect from the players-and mpst importantly,the senior player.also,could he not somehow handle the media obligations and leave the coaching staff to concentrate on the coaching?just a thought..feel free to shoot it down..don’t want to not use all the excpertise smit has and the respect he has from bok players.

  • Comment 131, posted at 28.07.11 18:35:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 131) : My opinion is that the only Hooker in SA better than Smit is Bissie. I feel Smit is still better than Adriaan and Chili.

  • Comment 132, posted at 28.07.11 18:39:14 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • Good article….mirrors my thoughts about that other site and their opinion. Well done!

  • Comment 133, posted at 28.07.11 18:39:24 by rixta Reply

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  • @dancingbear i respect no man…you still have not rallied me on miesiekind. …hugh! That would also be a bit under the belt. Thats his nickname apron live with it. I dare you to call terblanche oupa to his face…his team mates yes but not the likes of you…this is where we talk rugby not trash…nicknames are part of the deal so be it. Just because we blog whether old or new makes one not superior to another. I dont like Aplon as a player likes others who dont like other players …choice of preference and i surely hope that aplon doent play in the wc…

  • Comment 134, posted at 28.07.11 18:41:01 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 134) : I am sorry for you that you respect no man, perhaps if you had someone to look up to, you would not be so quick to insult. Nonetheless, that statement tells me all I need to know about you, no point in continuing a discussion with someone that respects nobody. Enjoy your life, and your posts on this site, personally, I have no desire to read anything further of yours nor to get to know you any better. Have a good life.

  • Comment 135, posted at 28.07.11 18:45:12 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 135) : Oh, and considering that I am significantly older than Oom Stef, I would have no problem calling him Oupa to his face!

  • Comment 136, posted at 28.07.11 18:47:33 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 135) : Uncle! How the heck are you? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 137, posted at 28.07.11 18:48:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @dancing Bear @AlterEgo: smoke the peace pipe,guys..please..

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  • @Ben: how is it?

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  • @Ben (Comment 137) : Howzit Ben, I am well, how have you been?

  • Comment 140, posted at 28.07.11 18:54:36 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 138) : I am at peace, thanks! :smile: More at peace now that I don’t have to deal with someone that respects nobody. :grin:

  • Comment 141, posted at 28.07.11 18:55:41 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 134) :
    Slow down cowboy. I’m not gonna debate with you on Aplon or your so-called facts about him (although he isn’t a face choice wing or 15 in my ideal Bok team), but take some time to get to know folks before getting all gangsta up in here.

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  • @Ben (Comment 137) : You came just in time for me to run off to a meeting. Hopefully catch up later Ben.

  • Comment 143, posted at 28.07.11 18:56:24 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 139) : Great thanks and you. What the heck is going on here?

  • Comment 144, posted at 28.07.11 18:56:24 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben: eish,aplon has caused some marakkas on here..!

  • Comment 145, posted at 28.07.11 18:58:31 by bergshark Reply

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  • AlterEgo
    Aplon’s team mates as well as the rest of the professional players in SA voted him as their Player of the Year in 2010.
    And these are players who have either played alongside him or against him. I’m sure they know a good player when they see one!

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 143) : I’m great thanks. Hope to catch up.

  • Comment 147, posted at 28.07.11 18:59:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 145) : I am not a fan of Aplon, but he is a Bok, and he is a good player, and deserves some respect. Plus the boytjie is all heart!

  • Comment 148, posted at 28.07.11 18:59:48 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Ben: read that frans botha is going to box evander holyfield at moses mabhida stadium.think the bout is scheduled for some time in november?fighting for some obscure “world heavyweight boxing title”..

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  • Holy guacamole… Who’s the new dude with the bludgeon riffola attitude? :mrgreen: Where’s Megatron when you need a helping hand!!! :mrgreen:

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  • @Ben (Comment 144) : You’re as confused as I am, dude! :grin:

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  • The scriptures tell you not to respect any man…meaning putting somebody on a pedestal. I am not the insulting type and clearly have the right to support who i like and dislike. As with your statement it is rather premature and fortunately you are a shark supporter so give me a wooden spoon to stir as that is what i am good at and believe me I can stand my ground. So lets leave it as the aplon factor that started this with a few weepees earlier stirring the pot. No hard feelings its rugby and i do have green blood running through my veins passed down from my former Grandad :) ask bergshark

  • Comment 152, posted at 28.07.11 19:03:30 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 149) : Hahaha how old are they now?

  • Comment 153, posted at 28.07.11 19:03:52 by Ben Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 152) : Funny, considering the scriptures were written by men! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 154, posted at 28.07.11 19:04:44 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 153) : Clash of the Pensioners! :lol:

  • Comment 155, posted at 28.07.11 19:05:21 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear:yes,gio had a super game last year vs abs at orlondo stadium.75kg of all-heart..!one-on-one,he would have stepped ioane ,too.

  • Comment 156, posted at 28.07.11 19:07:10 by bergshark Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 155) : More like the has never beens! :)

  • Comment 157, posted at 28.07.11 19:07:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 152) : @SharonvanWyk (Comment 154) : Perhaps you’ll accord some respect to women, then? :twisted:

  • Comment 158, posted at 28.07.11 19:07:59 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 157) : Isn’t half of Holyfield’s ear still in Tyson’s tummy? :razz:

  • Comment 159, posted at 28.07.11 19:09:31 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 158) : I’m not getting involved in this one. I’m in a good mood today! :lol:

  • Comment 160, posted at 28.07.11 19:11:09 by Ben Reply
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  • Gross..!

  • Comment 161, posted at 28.07.11 19:11:46 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 160) : Me too. Excellent one, in fact! Doing a good impression of a troll, aren’t I?!!! :cool:

  • Comment 162, posted at 28.07.11 19:12:28 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 159) : Nope I think its framed above Tyson’s bed. :lol:

  • Comment 163, posted at 28.07.11 19:12:55 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben:frans botha said he wants to be the oldest man to win a heavyweight title.going after george foreman’s record.

  • Comment 164, posted at 28.07.11 19:13:58 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 161) : The pictures at the time were quite gross, I’ll admit! Had to choose from them for the PTA News, way back in the day. Marvelous string of jokes cropped up after that little incident! :razz:

  • Comment 165, posted at 28.07.11 19:13:59 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 163) : Along with his Oscar for The Hangover, no doubt! :grin:

  • Comment 166, posted at 28.07.11 19:14:48 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 162) : Nah I think you’re still alright. ;)

  • Comment 167, posted at 28.07.11 19:15:16 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 167) : Awe… my hero! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 168, posted at 28.07.11 19:15:54 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben: holyfield was a linebacker for the atlanta falcons and then had to make a choice between pro-football and pro-boxing.

  • Comment 169, posted at 28.07.11 19:16:56 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 169) : Kind of an American Sonny Bill!

  • Comment 170, posted at 28.07.11 19:18:23 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 166) : Jeez can’t stop thinking about the weigh in between Lewis and Tyson. That was really funny. Have you seen that incident?

  • Comment 171, posted at 28.07.11 19:18:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben: mike tyson is quite a relaxed guy these days.

  • Comment 172, posted at 28.07.11 19:19:32 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 171) : A pair of prize prats, those two. Where they tried to slap each other silly? :lol:

  • Comment 173, posted at 28.07.11 19:20:04 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • I think holyfield is 47 and f botha 42..?

  • Comment 174, posted at 28.07.11 19:21:21 by bergshark Reply

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  • @sharonvanwyk: there is no,but absolute no ,comparison between sbw and holyfield as boxers.

  • Comment 175, posted at 28.07.11 19:23:00 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 172) : Bromide in his coffee… :twisted:

  • Comment 176, posted at 28.07.11 19:23:29 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharon…naaaa i more than likely wield my mouse or wooden spoon…giggle…nope i love woman and not an egotistical clout. i

  • Comment 177, posted at 28.07.11 19:23:32 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • Mike tyson was given as 1.78m but I’ve heard some sportscasters say he is closer to 1.75 or maybe 1.73m..!

  • Comment 178, posted at 28.07.11 19:24:27 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 175) : Twas a joke, dude! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 179, posted at 28.07.11 19:24:31 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Man this Alterego guy knows how to ruffle feathers. :???:

  • Comment 180, posted at 28.07.11 19:25:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 172) : @SharonvanWyk (Comment 173) : Mike tried to jump Lennox and then someone in the media shouted, “get that guy a straigh jacket”. Now that pissed Mike off. He turned to the media and said, “what’s that white boy?” “Do you want to come here and tell me again?” “I’ll F##k you until you love me!”

    Hahahaha that last part really cracked me up!

  • Comment 181, posted at 28.07.11 19:25:10 by Ben Reply
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  • I just dont fancy Aplon

  • Comment 182, posted at 28.07.11 19:26:02 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 182) : I think we kinda got that, dear Alter…! :lol:

  • Comment 183, posted at 28.07.11 19:29:10 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • I am here to add hits so…giggle

  • Comment 184, posted at 28.07.11 19:29:16 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 181) : Oh yeah, I remember now. That was classic. Knew there’d been a bit of a tussle… Amazing what steroids can do! :lol:

  • Comment 185, posted at 28.07.11 19:30:13 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • AlterDweebo
    I’m sure Aplon doesn’t fancy you either.
    As far as I know, he doesn’t ‘bat for the other team’ :twisted:

  • Comment 186, posted at 28.07.11 19:31:49 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 180) : HOWZIT! Looking forward to your safari?
    Take LOTS of warm clothes… Lots of layers. Beanies, gloves and scarves… the bush is FREEZING in the early mornings!

  • Comment 187, posted at 28.07.11 19:32:30 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 185) : :lol: That guy is mentally unstable. Or he was.

  • Comment 188, posted at 28.07.11 19:32:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 186) : Bwaaaahaahhaa! :lol:

  • Comment 189, posted at 28.07.11 19:33:28 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 188) : Like I said… drugs. Lots of em! Elephant tranquilisers…! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 190, posted at 28.07.11 19:34:21 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Ben: lennox lewis was just too tall,heavy,longer reach and quick hands.
    Lennox lewis is 1.96m 113kg(at his best) and has a 2.13m reach..wouldve made an excellent blindside flanker imho.tyson only has a reach of 1.78m..!(Shock)

  • Comment 191, posted at 28.07.11 19:34:45 by bergshark Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 8) : By the way Vin. This is an awesome article. Well written. I take my cap off to you! :cool:

  • Comment 192, posted at 28.07.11 19:37:49 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 187) : YIP looking forward BIG time.

    Used to it to a CERTAIN extent. We usually go to Hlane in Swaziland every year and the early morning drives do get a bit CHILL!!!!! (We have our Nepalese lined beenies that Kette got in nepal for us.) :wink:

  • Comment 193, posted at 28.07.11 19:38:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Wpw you back …lol you must miss me because i ruffled your disa blommetjie…

  • Comment 194, posted at 28.07.11 19:38:36 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @Ben:@4haronvanwyk: just a bit of side info.was interersting to hear some boxing commentators lament the lack of an usa heavyweight boxing champ.was interesting to hear them say that it might be because the tall and athletic big athletes in usa are either playing nfl or nba.

  • Comment 195, posted at 28.07.11 19:40:53 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ben:if the usa was really into rugby(and someone at harvard didn’t think rugby to be too violent a game),do you think there would be any team capabvle of matching them for one half of rugby game?

  • Comment 196, posted at 28.07.11 19:53:09 by bergshark Reply

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  • Folks no hard feelings I call a spade a spade and will stand up for the sharks. Bar your comments. I am here to amuse and have fun. Either you love me or hate me. But i still and wont support Aplon…my choice. Not drugs or a mental imbalance…goodness thats funny at least I tickled some brains. Be cool and lets forget negative crap thus gets behind the boks…anybody causes nonsense call AlterEgo…lol. Jasco is my name and rugby is my game…laters

  • Comment 197, posted at 28.07.11 19:54:53 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 196) : USA is huge. So I really doubt that.

  • Comment 198, posted at 28.07.11 19:54:55 by Ben Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 197) : Dude get of your pedastel. We weren’t even talking about you! :roll:

  • Comment 199, posted at 28.07.11 19:59:15 by Ben Reply
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  • Remember them saying on boots n all a long time ago,that there where more than 50 players in the nfl that matched jonah lomu (ie height,weight,speed)..over 50..!(Shock!)

  • Comment 200, posted at 28.07.11 20:01:39 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Ben:yes,usa is huge..but so is india and indonesia and brazil lol they just have some freakish dudes in the states.

  • Comment 201, posted at 28.07.11 20:04:49 by bergshark Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 197) : Sorry to burst your bubble, mate, but we were talking about Mike Tyson. :lol: But anyways, welcome to Sharksworld! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 202, posted at 28.07.11 20:08:01 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharonvanwyk: maybe this is mike tyson’s alter ego..hehe

  • Comment 203, posted at 28.07.11 20:12:12 by bergshark Reply

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  • @sharon….mike tyson, Alter Ego whats the diffs…lol

  • Comment 204, posted at 28.07.11 20:12:32 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @sharon…besides my friend bergshark thanks you are the first to welcome me…back at ya! Wink ..just having fun.

  • Comment 205, posted at 28.07.11 20:17:43 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 204) : Hear what you say… Megan Fox, Sharon… what’s the diff? :mrgreen: Oops… I forgot. Sharon has a brain! :D

  • Comment 206, posted at 28.07.11 20:17:52 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharonvanwyk: uhm..sorry,sharon,BIG difference there..sorry..

  • Comment 207, posted at 28.07.11 20:20:12 by bergshark Reply

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  • Nite one and all. Time for la-la’s. Busy day ahead tomorrow… Catch you all on the flipside… :cool:

  • Comment 208, posted at 28.07.11 20:20:50 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 207) : :( Bergshark. I am gutted. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 209, posted at 28.07.11 20:22:12 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Wonder where our disa flowers are hiding? Hello maybe they should place herchille gibbs on the banner instead…lol

  • Comment 210, posted at 28.07.11 20:22:24 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 207) : Not when I was her age!!! :lol:

  • Comment 211, posted at 28.07.11 20:22:52 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @sharon…good one but it depends where it sits…lol…night keep your hands above the blankets :)

  • Comment 212, posted at 28.07.11 20:27:57 by AlterEgo Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 211) : Night Shaz…

  • Comment 213, posted at 28.07.11 20:32:54 by Ben Reply
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  • @AlterEgo (Comment 71) : “…please get some glasses and look deeper.” :roll:

    AlterEgo, daddy’s gonna be really mad when he finds out you’ve been playing on his computer again.

  • Comment 214, posted at 28.07.11 23:38:35 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Nice piece Vin

    I sincerely hope that all of South Africa can get behind their side and management as we go into the tournament.

    Which is hard enough to win when all is going smoothly.

    Admittedly PDV and Co are struggling here at the minute but hopefully whatever the result of Saturday’s match, they as well as the SA public will be able to put it in perspective.

    At the end of the day SA will be very competitive at the RWC.

    World rugby needs that!

    Well said Vinnie

    HH

  • Comment 215, posted at 29.07.11 04:52:04 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • Good morning all

  • Comment 216, posted at 29.07.11 08:33:03 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 216) : Good morning from a freezing POURING Durban. :Brrrrr:

  • Comment 217, posted at 29.07.11 08:36:05 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 217) : Just as cold down here dude,Dammit

  • Comment 218, posted at 29.07.11 09:04:54 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 218) : And Up here… :???:

  • Comment 219, posted at 29.07.11 10:42:41 by Ice Reply
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