Hertford Highlander

New Zealand are sick of this South African mob already


Written by Gwyn Pratley (Hertford Highlander)

Posted in :All Blacks, Original Content, RWC 2011, Springboks, Tri Nations on 28 Jul 2011 at 06:28
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With the naming of Peter de Villiers side for the Springboks second Tri Nations Test of 2011, many a New Zealand fan is struggling to take this mob too seriously.

Come kick-off on Saturday evening Graham Henry’s All Blacks have everything to lose and the de Villiers Boks everything to gain. But this mob trust me won’t be gaining too much.

With this afternoons naming of the Springboks for the Wellington Test, the Boks will roll out 11 players with less than 10 Test matches to their names.

Since touch down yesterday the Springbok camp have been surrounded in a comical side show that often accompanies Peter de Villiers when he travels to our shores. The furore involves whether the 21 ‘injured’ Boks at home are actually all in Rustenburg at a training camp with Rassie Erasmus and Percy Montgomery. The media have made a meal of it for one reason and one reason only – PDV doesn’t seem to have control of his mob, stories are leaking everywhere about what is exactly going on with de Villiers top charges at home.

De Villiers is a humorous character at the best of times and the media love him, he has made a tradition of saying some absurd things that have had general rugby fans (as long as they were not South African) double over in laughter. Once again de Villiers has managed to get the entire New Zealand rugby public smirking at his explanation of the so called training camp in Rustenburg.

At the end of the day all the New Zealand rugby media and the kiwi rugby fans are looking for is -honesty, which sadly seems to be severely lacking with this whole shambolic 21 ‘injured’ player fiasco and now the resulting ‘Rustenburg rugby camp’.

New Zealanders couldn’t care less how any country prepares themselves for the RWC – each to their own.

Kiwis are well aware that it worked in 2007 for the World Champion Springbok and let’s face it, it may work again.

The lack of honesty however and taking your hosts for a ride as if they were stupid is just embarrassing for all involved. The legendary John Smit is also not coming out of all this smelling of roses either. Smit unfortunately seems to have been tarred with the same brush as the de Villiers management team and has been speaking with fork-tongue, about how good he thinks this side is.

Today the rhetoric has been flowing since the naming of this severely weakened Springbok side.

This side should be remembered as one of the weakest Springbok sides of all time. What a sad indictment on a proud rugby nation and also for those involved on the field, come Saturday night in the ‘Cake Tin”.

Sharks fans are sure to be some of the more interested by-standers on Saturday with a swag of below par, past and present Sharks players tipping up on the international stage, some of them even out of position. Test rugby is not a place to go unless you are firing on all cylinders and one of this Black &White brigade is bound to pick up the gong for the worst player on the pitch.

The Springbok backs of years gone by will watch on in dismay as this lot take the field on Saturday evening. It is a back division that is simply nowhere near Test standard and will get seriously bullied by bigger men in Black jerseys and when the ones on the field are finished with them, then ones from the bench will come on.

Patrick Lambie, Bjorn Basson, Adi Jacobs, Juan de Jongh, Lwazi Mvovo, Morne Steyn, Ruan Pienaar.

All have no size, form or right to be playing international rugby at the moment.

With the forwards it is not much better.

Danie Roussow, Jean Deysel, Deon Stegmann, Alistair Hargreaves, Gerhard Mostert, Werner Kruger, John Smit (captain), Dean Greyling.

Are an interesting collection of has-beens, unproven talent or bizarre selections.

The New Zealand rugby public are already sick of this mob and wish them good riddance already hopefully with a good kick up the backside from the All Blacks for their travels home.

This Springbok side are a waste of space no matter what spin we hear from those associated with them.

I can’t imagine we will see too many of them back in September.

However we all understand that the real prize up for grabs is in October when two full strength sides from the respective rugby giants lock horns.

It is not about this Saturday, next Saturday or when the All Blacks play in South African in a couple of weeks that matters, and fans from both countries realise that come Saturday evening.

However being taken for fools in your own country and being blatantly lied to is disrespectful and smacks of arrogance.

In the last 24 hours South African rugby have done nothing to enhance the unique bonds that exist between the two countries.

This mob have done themselves no favours off the field and is not likely to make up for it on the field either.

Like all Test’s this weekend will be much anticipated, but in reality New Zealanders are sick of this mob already.



110 Comments

  • Don’t worry HH, us South Africans are sick of it too

  • Comment 1, posted at 28.07.11 06:29:44 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 1) : I am referring to the coaching staff and being told that this isn’t a B team.

  • Comment 2, posted at 28.07.11 06:48:41 by lostfish Reply
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  • yeah but the All Blacks are going to do the same thing when they tour SA, so who cares, let them moan

  • Comment 3, posted at 28.07.11 06:52:14 by Tintin Reply

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  • One thing though, how can you say Lambie is not good enough to be playing as an international? Lambie is a real talent and even at his young age has proven himself and he can only get better. This weekend it is a disservice to him to have him playing at 15 because with Steyn at 10 and the rest of the backline he isn’t going to see any ball.

    Sure this is a weakened team but there are a few of those players who were in great form in SupeRugby and they have not picked themselves.

  • Comment 4, posted at 28.07.11 06:56:45 by lostfish Reply
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  • I think we need to see this in context – anything not to Antipodean likes gets slated!! Ah well Boks to lose by 30? More? :shock: :roll:

  • Comment 5, posted at 28.07.11 07:05:02 by Caratacus Reply

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  • If the Boks win on Saturday….and im not saying they will….I would love to hear the excuse coming out of NZ…we were poisoned…the ref f***ed us…the sun was too bright, what ever it is, it’ll be classic!!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 28.07.11 07:06:19 by Tintin Reply

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  • This so-called ‘B’ team is by all means a Springbok team and should be supported and RESPECTED as such. :roll: Lets rather wait and see whether the almighty Kiwis wins or chokes(again) in the RWC before throwing insults around.

  • Comment 7, posted at 28.07.11 07:19:27 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Caratacus (Comment 5) : And you ARE happy with this team?

  • Comment 8, posted at 28.07.11 07:35:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • As if NZ are sending out a full strength team for the TN! :roll:

  • Comment 9, posted at 28.07.11 07:35:37 by Ben Reply
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  • We place so much importance on this Bok side that we haven’t even posted an article announcing the match 22 :lol:

  • Comment 10, posted at 28.07.11 07:38:50 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • All Blacks assistant coach Steve Hansen has defended South Africa’s decision to leave a core group of more than 20 players at home, rather than play them on the Australasian leg of the Tri-Nations championship.

    This followed after the Springboks touched down in New Zealand to a media barrage, amidst claims of a secret training camp in Rustenburg for ‘injured’ first-choice Boks who did not make the trip.

    The Springboks play the All Blacks in Wellington on Saturday in their second Tri-Nations match.

    “I think South Africa has done what is right for their team,” Hansen told a media scrum at the team’s training base.

    “The most important tournament of the year is the World Cup and every nation is looking at that as the case.

    “If we won the World Cup and didn’t win the Tri-Nations do you think too many people would be complaining about the Tri-Nations?

    “I can’t see too many and it’d be the same in South Africa, the same in Australia.”

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.07.11 08:04:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : :lol:

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.07.11 08:07:29 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark (comment 8) – I think it’s better than the Team England sent over a few years ago to NZ and Oz that got trashed 100 nil or something horrible. that one didnt have much in the way of a C team let alone a B team. Then at the end of the tour the coach cheerfully says ‘they learnt a lot”!! It’s lightweight to say the least? :???: :???: Anyway, I’m watching and supporting whatever.

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.07.11 08:15:16 by Caratacus Reply

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  • HH, there are a few of these guys that deserve green & gold. Jean Deysel, Ryan Kankowski, Danie Rossouw and Patrick Lambie.

    Some of the others I would never pick: Basson (zero defense), Olivier (zero pass), De Jong (zero pass).

    Young guns – yeah, there are a few that may have been chosen a year or two too soon.

    Has beens – you must refer to Adi (playing rather well) and John…

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.07.11 08:22:42 by King Shark Reply
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  • HH, Its Peter, not Pieter.(I know, I know)
    If your mob is already sick of our mob then we are moving in the right direction.

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.07.11 08:26:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Don’t worry @Hertford Highlander, even us South Africans double up laughing at some of the crud that flows out of his mouth like sewage into the sea!! :lol:

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.07.11 08:40:33 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : Pieter was a prop who played for France ;-)

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.07.11 08:41:11 by lostfish Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 14) : Agreed…The team playing on Saturday will play once again as individuals as they do not know each other well enough to gel properly. Its going to be a slaughter house on Saturday and there is Springbok Steaks on the Menu :???:

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.07.11 08:44:40 by Viking Reply
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  • It was announced all referees have been trained in the Heimlich Maneuver. Just in case the host nation chokes.

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.07.11 08:50:29 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 15) : @lostfish (Comment 17) : Actually it was Pieter until a few years ago when he changed it.

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.07.11 08:52:11 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 17) : Ja, that Pieter knew what he was doing.

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.07.11 08:52:45 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 20) : Why :shock: it must be a Paarl thing.
    Coming soon Paarlbok changes name to Paarlbuck.

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.07.11 08:55:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : Hey man leave PB alone, thats an ok dude right there.

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.07.11 08:59:37 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Caratacus (Comment 13) : You know we’ve dropped our standards when we compare ourselves to England. :)

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.07.11 09:00:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 23) : Its all Peters, sorry Pieters fault. I really enjoy PB, I wish he would pop in more often.

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.07.11 09:07:06 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 24) :

    Says the guy who owns 4-10 Engerland rugby jerseys!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.07.11 09:07:51 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : Tell him :!:

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.07.11 09:11:11 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • don’t worry HH we’re sick of you sanctimonious lot too, everyday we have to live with kiwis b*tching about this, that and the other, when everything you guys do is first and foremost for yourselves.

    when graham henry unilaterally decided to pull richie mccaw for the first 2 weeks of super rugby to REST him – breach of Sanzar agreement that the BEST available teams should play in competitions – you don’t recall south africans going on about it! nobody called greg peters to probe the situation!

    every all black had a MANDATORY 2 weeks rest imposed by Henry on all the franchises and ALL your coaches had to play ball. – breach of Sanzar agreement.

    Henry just the other day said he doesn’t care who this what about him resting his players ie telling you precious new zealand lot to stuff off with you delusions about “the best all black team should always play” when YOU are not the coaches and have no idea how fatigued the players are from super rugby.

    it is tiring to hear new zealanders all over the web going on about all sort stuff that is sacred to them, from how they don’t pick players who ply their trade overseas, to how their jersey is still unsullied by names of sponsors, as if we really give a f*ck.

    the pride and history of the springbok jersey is not reliant on the recognition of kiwis or what they think of us, it is there for eternity!

    when greg peters was quizzed on why we are playing a tri-nations in a congested world cup year, he apparently said that some members of sanzar need the revenue generated by the competition, i wonder who he was talking about? :roll:

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.07.11 09:13:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • Why does Lwazi Mvovo not deserve to be playing international rugby? He was the pick of the Bok backline last week and gave the Aussies problems whenever he got the ball, which admittedly wasn’t very often. He is playing well and deserving of his place. Just wish our backs would give him more of the ball!

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.07.11 09:18:33 by Villie Reply
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  • again, here is the team that got klapped 33 – 7 in christchurch in 2007: South Africa – 15-JP Pietersen; 14-Breyton Paulse, 13-Waylon Murray, 12-Wynand Olivier, 11-Jaco Pretorius; 10-Derick Hougaard, 9-Ruan Pienaar; 8-Jacques Cronje, 7-Pedrie Wannenburg, 6-Wikus van Heerden, 5-Johann Muller (c), 4-Albert van den Berg; 3-Jannie du Plessis, 2-Bismarck du Plessis, 1-CJ van der Linde.

    Subs: 16-Gary Botha, 17-Eddie Andrews, 18-Gerrie Britz, 19-Hilton Lobberts, 20-Michael Claassens, 21-Peter Grant, 22-Tonderai Chavhanga.

    point me to the players who in your mind in 2007 were established world class boks that new zealanders respected and THEN tell me who gave a rat’s ar_se what new zealanders thought of this team when the Springboks were lifting the william webb-ellis cup in france later that year?

    play sport and quit b*tching!

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.07.11 09:22:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • Well everyone hope this hasn’t come as too much of a surprise maybe it is just an insight into public opinion from this side of the ditch.

    Let’s face it it is a meaningless match between two sides that have rested players.

    I wish South Africa well especially those who notch up Test caps as a result of it.

    It will be an interesting match to see what the back up depth is like in both sides.

    Enjoy the match

    HH

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.07.11 09:23:50 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 28) :

    Sit down! :roll:

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.07.11 09:25:59 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • HH I acknowledge your points and frustration.
    If this was done in any other year then it would be unnacceptable.

    I dont agree with the “lies” , but then again how the Boks go about preparing is anyone but the All Blacks concern.

    The blame should be placed on the Aussies (perenial whingers) because the only real beneficiaries of having this extended super Rugby competition is Australia because of their lack of local/provincial competitions.

    Players are seriously fatigued and going into a world cup in that state is suicide.

    Also your comments on size and skill regarding some players is totally unfair. Man for Man some of those players can be compared to their New Zealnad counterparts, however in a team structure these players lack cohesion which dilutes their effectiveness. That I blame on team Management.

    Allow the Boks time to recuperate just as we have allowed the AB’s in super rugby and now in the TN’s

  • Comment 33, posted at 28.07.11 09:26:19 by chucky Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 32) : i’m sitting, trust me :grin:

  • Comment 34, posted at 28.07.11 09:30:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 34) :

    So am I now :)

    Enjoy the match.

    Look forward to your comments post match!

    I’m settling down now to watch North Harbour v Hawke’s Bay

  • Comment 35, posted at 28.07.11 09:34:47 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 32) : Whilst I would agree that De Villiers is a muppet… I don’t think it’s fair for HH and his fellow New Zealanders to be so upset with what he derogatorily refers to as our Bok “mob”.

    Firstly, we are contractually bound to SANZAR not to field our B-Team if our A-team is fit. So no matter how much we want to be “honest” with the whinging NZ fans, it would be legal, & potentially financial, suicide to admit such a thing.

    Secondly, if we assume for just a second that the guys actually are injured. Why is it such a horror that they should be in a training camp? To let each of them sit at home or on a beach somewhere would be irresponsible with the WC just a few weeks away. In adversity comes opportunity. Surely even the whinging NZ fans must know that a training camp doesn’t have to be about high intensity? A gathering of 21 injured/crippled men to discuss strategy and to build team spirit is well within the realms of what I would deem reasonable? And I think Juan Smith, Schalk Burger, Andries Bekker, Willem Alberts (who we all know are DEFINITELY injured) are more than capable of sitting around a table to discuss strategy?

    Thirdly, who do these whinging NZ fans think they are to decide who our best team is? Even we as South African fans don’t get a say in that! Depending who you speak to, many would argue that: Lambie, Basson, Mvovo& Steyn should be in the starting team (They certainly have been in the recent past). With Burger, Smith, Alberts and Brussouw genuinely injured many would argue that Stegmann, Deysel & Rossouw are the next best. Du Preez has been injured on and off for quite some time and probably genuinely needs rehab on his crocked shoulder, so you can’t argue that Pienaar is not an able replacement vs anyone else that could fill in in that position.

    So really, all this fuss is about 2 centres, 2 locks and 2 props (at most) who may or may not be genuinely injured. 6 people! Is that what all this fuss is about? Seriously hypocritical and one-eyed if you consider that at least 4 Kiwis are being rested this weekend!

    Now let’s stop all this whinging and go play some Rugby!!!

  • Comment 36, posted at 28.07.11 09:36:13 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 36) : Well said! ;-)

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.07.11 09:38:59 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 36) : REPEAT REPEAT REPEAT

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.07.11 09:45:03 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • “However been taken for fools in your own country and being blatantly lied to is disrespectful and smacks of arrogance.”

    which parts of what de villiers said were lies HH, he said there’s no “training camp”, mark keohane reported that he had it on good authority that it was “training camp”, jurie roux, saru ceo says there’s no “training” camp!

    so who exactly is blatantly LYING to you?

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.07.11 09:45:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @chucky (Comment 33) :

    ‘lies’ :roll:

    South African rugby is not holding a secret training camp in Rustenburg but is instead running rehabilitation programmes for their injured players Jurie Roux, chief executive of the South African Rugby Union (SARU) said in Wellington, New Zealand on Thursday.

    Roux was moved to make the comments after media reports from South Africa earlier in the week claimed that the 21 injured players that SARU said were unavailable for the overseas leg of the Boks’ Tri-Nations campaign were, in fact, involved in a training camp with Bok technical advisor Rassie Erasmus.

    “I’m not denying that they are in Rustenburg. I’m denying the fact that there is a secret training camp,” Roux said.

    “I have my players in a single high-performance entity being rehabilitated,” he added.

    South Africa raised the ire of their partners in Sanzar (South Africa, New Zealand, Australia rugby) the Tri-Nations’ governing body by sending what many observers have referred to as a `B team’ to compete against Australia and New Zealand.

    The Springboks were humbled 39-20 by Australia in their first match while they face the All Blacks in Wellington on Saturday.

    Roux said that his only objective was to get as many of South Africa’s top players fit for the rugby World Cup set to kick-off in New Zealand on September 9.

    “I am surprised that people are worried about this. I run a multi-million rand corporation and my biggest assets are my players. They are injured and I need to do something to get them ready for a World Cup.

    “You don’t send an injured player to Bali or Mauritius to have a holiday. You pull him into your high performance centre, you put him with the best doctor you can find, and you put him on a rehabilitation programme to get him ready for the World Cup,” Roux explained.

    It has been suggested that New Zealand may follow South Africa’s lead and send a weakened squad to their away fixtures in this year’s Tri-Nations and Roux said it was up to New Zealand to do what they thought was best for them.

    “New Zealand must do whatever is in their best interests. Whatever team they send will be an All Black team and will be treated like an All Black team…we will be happy to receive any team that they send,” he concluded.

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) :

    I’m not sure I haven’t been in Rustenburg this week, would love to go one day tough! :cool:

  • Comment 41, posted at 28.07.11 09:48:53 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • The problem with South Africans in general is that we don’t stick together and our media can’t wait for players or coaches or even our national teams to fail.

    One only has to look at the utter garbage written by journalists such as Keohane, Lanning, etc.

    The same thing happened in 2006 and 2007 when everyone called for Jake to be sacked. What happened at the RWC in 2007??

    Can someone please refresh my memory?? :roll:

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.07.11 09:50:53 by wpw Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 37) : Thanks, please pass it on to all your NZ buddies :mrgreen:

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.07.11 09:54:17 by CS Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : There is a camp. but not a “training” camp – its a rehab camp…dont see anything wrong with rehab together…do you? ;-)

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.07.11 09:56:55 by Ice Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 43) :

    I’ll do that – enjoy the match! ;-)

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  • @Ice (Comment 44) :

    I’ve never known 21 guys rehabbing before! ;-)

    DC’s starting! :cool: another reason to watch! :roll:

  • Comment 46, posted at 28.07.11 09:59:21 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 44) :

    I know Amy did but look where that got her!! :shock: :???:

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 46) :

    One of our sports journos refered to him as Diane Carter on the radio this morning!! :lol: :mrgreen:

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  • @Ice (Comment 44) : nope :cool: i felt a twitch on my hammy yesterday after gym, i’m going to Rustenburg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Comment 49, posted at 28.07.11 10:07:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 48) : I heard that too :lol:

  • Comment 50, posted at 28.07.11 10:13:36 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I cant wait for the test, the bokke must be the most motivated team on the planet come saturday

  • Comment 51, posted at 28.07.11 10:14:15 by Uli Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 28) : HEAR HEAR!

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 46) : I feel the number is irrelevant – if you need to do rehab – why not do it together – afterall its the WC year – need to build up some much needed commeradery!

    @wpw (Comment 48) : Stupid ASS!! :evil:

    @Hertford Highlander (Comment 46) : Off Course I’ll be watching – if the Boks cannot do me a favour and give me pleasure, I am sure DC at least will (if only by watching him play!)! :lol:

  • Comment 53, posted at 28.07.11 10:18:40 by Ice Reply
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  • If we are contractually bound to choose our best team, why did Ricky play in the tri-nations for so many years? No one of them (Aus+Nz) complained then did they?

  • Comment 54, posted at 28.07.11 10:20:24 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 54) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 28.07.11 10:22:18 by Ice Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 54) : yep and Wynand played in 2 Tests in New Zealand last year too and no kiwi complained!

  • Comment 56, posted at 28.07.11 10:26:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 28) : EXACTLY. The Boks and The Kiwis have both concocted their own various ways of resting key players.

    HH, re our coach, I don’t want to sermonize, but you will never understand what it is like to have to try and talk in a language that is not your mother tongue – in front of journalists with bright lights flashing in your eyes. To his credit our coach caters for the foreign press (he has, by the way, every right to talk in Afrikaans, after all the French won’t even consider English) The way he is portrayed as a bumbling idiot is derogatory and culturally insensitive, but sadly, not surprising.

  • Comment 57, posted at 28.07.11 10:49:39 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 57) :

    You sir are spot on!! ;-) :grin:

  • Comment 58, posted at 28.07.11 10:51:51 by wpw Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 57) : agreed :grin:

    I always sound waaaaaayyyyyyyyy daft when I speak English, odly enough only when I want to say specific things not so much in casual conversation, must be omdat ek in Afrikaans dink

  • Comment 59, posted at 28.07.11 10:54:43 by Ossa Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 57) : Too true :|

  • Comment 60, posted at 28.07.11 10:58:00 by diablo Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 57) : yea… next time Graham Henry gives an interview, let’s get him to do it in Maori and see how well it comes across…

  • Comment 61, posted at 28.07.11 11:03:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 59) : Yeah, I got you. I would literally cr*p my pants if I had to be interviewed in Afrikaans, with Afrikaans reporters waiting for me to screw up.

    What PDV does is he takes Afrikaans idioms and expressions and he directly translates them into English and along the way it obviously gets mangled.

    Yes, he doesn’t have a flair for languages, but that doesn’t mean he’s a low IQ buffoon. How many of us are perfectly bilingual?

  • Comment 62, posted at 28.07.11 11:04:23 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 62) : very few people can pull it off… my dad speaks Afrikaans well enough to be considered a mother-tongue speaker, but I’ve never managed to be as comfortable as that in it.

  • Comment 63, posted at 28.07.11 11:07:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 62) : I remember once that Jake got blasted for calling the players ‘Outjies’, obviously he meant to translate ‘Guys’. Didn’t stop the media( the Rapport guy, can’t remember his name ) from phoning in to ‘SuperRugby saam met Kobus en die kerkraad’ and complaining about it, even remember calling Jake ‘nie eers mens nie’.

    Needless to say they quickly shut him up about it.

  • Comment 64, posted at 28.07.11 11:13:40 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 64) : Whats wrong with öutjies? You know what – Jake had he’s faults – but what I appreciated was the fact that he answered a question in Afrikaans if he was asked it by an Afrikaans journo – same with John Smit…

  • Comment 65, posted at 28.07.11 11:30:12 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 65) : My thoughts exactly.

    The guy said he (Jake) had no respect for the players, because he refered to them as ‘outjies’ and ‘seuns’ as opposed to ‘mans’ or ‘manne’. Jake only got lost in translation between ‘Guys’ and ‘Boys’, which are both acceptable when used in English.

    Point I’m trying to make is that he decided he didn’t like Jake, and then tried his best to make him look bad by twisting his words.

  • Comment 66, posted at 28.07.11 11:35:40 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ossa (Comment 66) : Ploskop! Outjies is a term of endearment so to speak…he was obviously just out to make Jake Black… :mrgreen: (Ok – I think that was a good one from me!) :lol:

  • Comment 67, posted at 28.07.11 11:38:50 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 67) : Ploskop? :lol: Ken nie daai ene nie

  • Comment 68, posted at 28.07.11 11:40:38 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 67) : Well, it’s all lost on me :mrgreen:

  • Comment 69, posted at 28.07.11 11:40:57 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 64) :If its the same incident Im thinking of then that would have been Rudolf Lake. He was the newly promoted sports editor and I suspect pissed. Joost put him in his place.

  • Comment 70, posted at 28.07.11 11:42:35 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 68) : Just mad it up! :lol:

    @CapeShark (Comment 69) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 71, posted at 28.07.11 11:43:16 by Ice Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 36) : Nicely put. Especially nice to note your blog name corresponds to the initials of another regular on the site… :lol:

  • Comment 72, posted at 28.07.11 11:45:13 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 65) : can smit answer in Xhosa please? we’ve got 11 official languages, surely our cappie should be able to speak more than 2.

  • Comment 73, posted at 28.07.11 11:45:17 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 70) : That is what I was referring to. Pissed, really?

    Anyway… ‘n Dronk man se woorde, is ‘n nugter man se gedagtes.
    Whomever did the ratings for Rapport on Sunday had Morne 5, and Lambie 4. :shock:

  • Comment 74, posted at 28.07.11 11:46:32 by Ossa Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 28) : Not big on the diplomacy, are you? :mrgreen: Kudos for voicing what many of us feel though.

  • Comment 75, posted at 28.07.11 11:47:11 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 73) : Ag moet nou nie soek vir *** nie… :roll:

  • Comment 76, posted at 28.07.11 11:51:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ossa (Comment 74) : JJ Harmse?? :lol:

  • Comment 77, posted at 28.07.11 11:51:45 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 73) : That would be pretty cool :cool: Imagine Smit rolling with the Xhosa.

  • Comment 78, posted at 28.07.11 11:54:20 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 77) : Don’t bother with the names of Rapport’s rugby journo’s any more. All of them could apply to be the Bulls’ PR guy. Blatantly Biased

  • Comment 79, posted at 28.07.11 12:01:12 by Ossa Reply

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  • Bad day at the office HH? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 28.07.11 12:01:14 by vanmartin Reply
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  • :idea: Enige iemand vir ‘n frikkadel broodjie? :grin:

  • Comment 81, posted at 28.07.11 12:06:27 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 81) : Thats what Im having for luch as well, except mine is flattened and between a bun instead of bread. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 82, posted at 28.07.11 13:15:09 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 76) : is kak when john has to speak xhosa but jake & smitty are boytjies when they answer on afrikaans :roll: go figure

  • Comment 83, posted at 28.07.11 13:18:26 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 82) : hehe

  • Comment 84, posted at 28.07.11 13:23:53 by Uli Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 83) : Megatron – geezlikit – why do you always have to make an issue of something that does not concern you ? I merely said it was nice that he answers in Afrikaans when asked a question in afrikaans…its not about Afrikaans, Pedi, isiZulu, Xhosa or wtf ever…dont make it into an issue.

    Frickenhell – I could have just aswell said its nice when he answers in Xhosa when asked a question in xhosa…

    You missing the crux of my point….AGAIN!

    FFS you are an ass sometimes – always trying to turn something into something that it is not..now leave me alone! before I say something that might get me a slap or two on the wrist.

  • Comment 85, posted at 28.07.11 13:35:50 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 85) : ROFL … Megatron iemand gaan jou moer :P

  • Comment 86, posted at 28.07.11 13:44:53 by Uli Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 85) :

    I reckon Megatron is going to have a broad grin when he reads this!!

    Don’t fall for it Ice!! ;-) :mrgreen:

  • Comment 87, posted at 28.07.11 13:45:43 by wpw Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 85) : Ice, rather fight with HH, he started all of this… lol :lol:

  • Comment 88, posted at 28.07.11 13:46:23 by Uli Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 87) : Stirring is one thing Wes – what he is busy with – I do not see as stirring for fun….so DONT try me – he has saddled up the wrong fricken horse here…TSK!! :evil:

  • Comment 89, posted at 28.07.11 13:47:51 by Ice Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 87) : And why do we always have to shut our mouths and dont fall for his bait…he gets away with way to much in my opinion…so perhaps I am gonna get a big grin and a mouthful from him – but I am UP TO HERE with his BS!

  • Comment 90, posted at 28.07.11 13:49:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 90) : Ice… you’re overreacting to something quite innocent, bokkie… :)

  • Comment 91, posted at 28.07.11 13:51:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 90) :

    No imagine how most people feel when klempie gets away with much worse!! :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 92, posted at 28.07.11 13:58:34 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 92) : moenie krap waar jy nie hoort nie!

  • Comment 93, posted at 28.07.11 14:02:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 91) : We will never know – his word against mine.. :roll:

    @wpw (Comment 92) : Then stand up against it – why dont you? :twisted:

  • Comment 94, posted at 28.07.11 14:09:04 by Ice Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 72) : Yip… luckily I have more stars or you may have accused me of being a stalker :mrgreen:

  • Comment 95, posted at 28.07.11 14:29:21 by CS Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 85) : :grin: :lol: :mrgreen: i pity your husband – in a nice way…he is living with a timebomb :D

  • Comment 96, posted at 28.07.11 14:43:36 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 96) : :razz: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 97, posted at 28.07.11 14:44:26 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 90) : hehehehe let it all out Uys :razz: :roll:

  • Comment 98, posted at 28.07.11 14:45:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 98) : I feel much better – thanks!

  • Comment 99, posted at 28.07.11 14:48:20 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 99) : so you think i get way with BS? :???:

  • Comment 100, posted at 28.07.11 14:54:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 100) : What do you think?

  • Comment 101, posted at 28.07.11 14:58:50 by Ice Reply
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  • I’m sick of the whining Aussies and Kiwis. So lets call it quits. The boks are being rested, suck it up and deal with it. South Africa is the major contributor to viewership numbers and b team or not, we’ll all watch the game. The broadcaster doesn’t give a shit as long as the numbers are watching. So as for the whining bunch down under, up yours see you in the RWC refreshed.

  • Comment 102, posted at 28.07.11 15:09:26 by waje Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 101) : nothing on that subject, you brought it up, clearly u feel something about it. :|

  • Comment 103, posted at 28.07.11 15:14:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 103) : Speak to the hand..

  • Comment 104, posted at 28.07.11 15:24:58 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 100) : I don’t know about others on this site but I definitely value your opinions on rugby and (*gasp*) even look out for them on certain subjects. Thing is though, I’m convinced you prefer stirring to sharing which is a pity. It’s cute but it gets old really fast. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 105, posted at 28.07.11 15:42:05 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 105) : thanks vanmart…i don’t “stir” on purpose, maybe i’m too honest for some :grin:

  • Comment 106, posted at 28.07.11 15:46:39 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 106) : I’m sorry I’m the one that has to break this to you – no, it’s not honesty, you stir at times. :lol:

  • Comment 107, posted at 28.07.11 15:50:04 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 107) : :mrgreen: :lol: seems you’ve made ur mind up then

  • Comment 108, posted at 28.07.11 15:59:04 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 108) : Just being honest :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 109, posted at 28.07.11 16:33:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 109) : the best policy and i ain’t talking insurance ;-)

  • Comment 110, posted at 28.07.11 17:00:11 by Megatron Reply

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