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Sharks player ratings v WP


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Currie Cup, Original Content, Sharks on 15 Aug 2011 at 07:07
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The Sharks turned in a pretty good display of wet-weather rugby to pip Western Province by 21 points to 19 at Newlands on Friday night. The hard-fought win was just the tonic for the side after coming badly unstuck against Griquas in Kimberley the week before. Let’s rate the individuals involved.

1) Dale Chadwick. Continues to grow in stature and put the previous week’s disappointing outing behind him as he delivered a solid all-round showing. Put in a dominant scrumming performance against Brok Harris and was huge on defence. 7/10
2) Craig Burden. A strong display from the fiery hooker, who is adding a fair bit of mongrel to his game to go with the flair. Burden always maintained that he wanted to be known for being strong in the tight phases, rather than the loose and on this showing, his game is moving in the right direction. 7/10
3) Eugene van Staden. A very tough one to call, because the big man was blown up no fewer than four times, which cost the Sharks points. I thought Gena was dominant in the scrum, but rookie referee Louwrens van der Merwe seemed to find vague, technical infringements every time the scrum went down, most of which were bogus. That said, Eugene was penalised in open play too and unfortunately the penalties given detracted from an otherwise very impressive outing. 6/10
4) Anton Bresler. A workmanlike performance from Bresler, who adapted his game well to the conditions, committed himself manfully in the tight and threw himself around on defence. Took the ball up strongly a few times, as well as being safe on his own lineout ball. A key cog in a dominant Sharks pack. 8/10
5) Ross Skeate. His best game in Sharks colours. Skeate was huge, with his tight play a wonder to watch, given his perhaps ill-deserved reputation for preferring the fancier stuff. The high work rate, hitting more ruck than anyone else, coupled with one or two wonderful runs and a safe pair of hands in the middle of the lineout, see him get 8/10.
6) Keegan Daniel. An assured performance from the skipper, who has put a few inconsistent showing over the last few weeks behind him, it would seem. Keegan was his ever-present, dynamic self and was involved heavily throughout. Was vocal and visible in his leadership as well, calling the referee out on his bizarre interpretations – for what that was worth. 7/10
7) Marcell Coetzee. The best forward on the park by a huge margin and would have been a clear candidate for man of the match had he been able to kick drop goals! Coetzee, quite frankly, could not have played better and was the Sharks’ most effective weapon both on attack and defence. 10/10
8) Ryan Kankowski. A great, physical game from the number 8 who appeared to be relishing a chance to play, in his favourite position, for his favourite team. Did plenty of work with ball in hand and threw himself into the breakdown contest with vigour as well. 8/10

9) Charl McLeod. The conditions were always going to be tough to play in for a scrumhalf who prides himself on linking, rather than kicking, yet Charl turned in a reasonably-good performance after seeing little game-time over the last two months. There were too many handling errors, but given that the game was actually played underwater for the most part, that’s probably understandable. 6/10
10) Fred Michalak. His mastery of the conditions – particularly the ability to nail drop goals and pressure penalties in the pouring rain, ultimately won this one for the Sharks. Fred is just so confident at the moment and he is proving to be an astute inclusion indeed. 9/10
11) Lwazi Mvovo. Few opportunities in a game that saw little ball moved wide. Lwazi did what he could, though and tackled manfully. 7/10
12) Pat Lambie. Got involved as much as he could, given that it wasn’t a day for running rugby and looked comfortable in a jersey he hasn’t worn for over a year. Tackled early and often, though, helping to rob the Province backs of momentum. 7/10
13) Stefan Terblanche. Plenty of strong, pressure defence on he Province midfield helped to keep them under check, for the most part. As mentioned, it wasn’t a game for running rugby, meaning Stef had little to do other than tackle anyway. 6/10
14) Odwa Ndungane. A rusty performance from a player who has seen far too little rugby over the last few months. Oddy will improve with more game time. 6/10
15) Louis Ludik. Safe under the high ball and great on defence, while looking to inject pace on attack wherever he could. Ludik is really starting to look the real deal at fullback and is improving in leaps and bounds every week. 7/10

16) Kyle Cooper. Not on long enough to be rated. When is this kid going to get some proper game time?
17) Wiehahn Herbst. Played a decent 20-minute cameo, where he was immovable in the front row, as always. Uncharacteristically, missed a few tackles though. 6/10
18) Jandre Marais. Not on long enough to be rated.
19) Jacques Botes. Not on long enough to be rated.
20. Conrad Hoffmann. Not on long enough to be rated. Good to see him back on a rugby field, though!
21) Adrian Jacobs. Unused.
22) Marius Joubert. Unused



57 Comments

  • I would have given Freddie a 10 he was the difference on the night! 100% kicking 3 of them drop goals and these drop goals keeping the scoreboard ticking for the Sharks and his composure helped keep the team from panicking in those dreadfull conditions, imo. I wouls even give him an extra point just for his accent :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 15.08.11 08:12:54 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 1) : :lol:

    I think our boys did great! Marcel is going to be one of our big ones – impressing more and more. He has a certain ‘calmness’about him too – that maturity factor that one sees in Pat. I can actually honestly see him Captain the team in a few years time.

    People who said this was boring need to go watch something else! :twisted:

  • Comment 2, posted at 15.08.11 08:16:27 by Ice Reply
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  • Fred should have gotten a 10

  • Comment 3, posted at 15.08.11 08:22:59 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • Great win ironed out by our team. I thoroughly enjoyed the game.
    Well done to Marcell Coetzee on an outstanding performance in all aspects of the game in the wet. A well-deserved 10/10. And good on Rob for having the courage to award this rating.

  • Comment 4, posted at 15.08.11 08:30:15 by beet Reply
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  • I was cursing Conrad Hoffman when he came on. I realise it was probably instructions but in a tight game, he just kept kicking that ball away and right back at Province for them to run back at us.

    I noticed him a lot and if I had to rate him it would have been 4/10 (max).

  • Comment 5, posted at 15.08.11 08:31:41 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • How was Jantjes’ tripping over his own bootlaces. Classic! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 15.08.11 08:32:27 by beet Reply
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  • Marcell jou Yster!!
    Freddie the Master!! :grin:

  • Comment 7, posted at 15.08.11 08:43:19 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 6) : Shame man – I felt so sorry for the poor guy! :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 15.08.11 08:48:47 by Ice Reply
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  • I would add 10/10 to WP for handing the game to the Sharks on a platter!! :mrgreen: :twisted:

  • Comment 9, posted at 15.08.11 08:48:55 by wpw Reply
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  • Okay okay i did not want to admit :mrgreen: it but the best flyhalf in South Africa is NOT STEYN…NOT BUTCH BUT LAMBIE.

    You know like any other bulls supporter i got sold with this whole idea with Morne Steyn and his drop goals but boy oh boy he does not look good.His distribution is soooo slow.

    The boks should have picked lambie at 10.

    Lambie is a better kicker than butch in my honest opinion.

  • Comment 10, posted at 15.08.11 08:56:33 by Muzi Reply

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  • Butchie you are not the only one, Hoffman made me wonder whether WP was paying his salary :evil:

  • Comment 11, posted at 15.08.11 09:00:33 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • On a positive note the sharks youngsters are looking the beez neez :mrgreen: Marcell Coetzee looks the real deal…the marais brothers have big futures.Get rid of macleod and play cronje and hoffman.

  • Comment 12, posted at 15.08.11 09:00:52 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Ice & Beet I could stop laughing, shame :lol:

    Love Marcell Coetzee! Its good not to have to stress if Deysel or Alberts gets injured! And I’m sorry detractors but I am really starting to really like Skeate.
    I am seriously enjoying this cc.

  • Comment 13, posted at 15.08.11 09:05:04 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Could = couldn’t

  • Comment 14, posted at 15.08.11 09:06:34 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 13) : Could not agree more, Mad!! Ross has impressed me too and I LOVE this years CC – just as much as always!

    PS. One more sleep, Girls!

  • Comment 15, posted at 15.08.11 09:07:32 by Ice Reply
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  • Saru might as well give the absa currie cup under 21 trophy to wp they look fantastic.

    That ex affies lock Roux is HUGE :shock: he was immense.
    I was impressed with the sharks full back gouws prinsloo he looks ready for currie cup rugby he is class.

    Freddy Zeilinga impressed me.Mbovane is a beast that step is something else he sure did show sithole whose die bass :mrgreen:

    Oi what on earth is going on with golden boy :mrgreen: Piet Lindeque the guy looks soooooooooo average i hope he steps up soon maybe its heimar williams who wants to crash the ball everytime he gets it hahahaha.

  • Comment 16, posted at 15.08.11 09:09:21 by Muzi Reply

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  • Some high ratings there. Wheres the room for improvement? ;-)

  • Comment 17, posted at 15.08.11 09:11:20 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Ice I’m all packed already :)

  • Comment 18, posted at 15.08.11 09:11:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 18) : :mrgreen: LOL!!

  • Comment 19, posted at 15.08.11 09:12:37 by Ice Reply
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  • How can Marcelle gets 10 and Freddie only 9 – I sense some bias. new love child :twisted:

  • Comment 20, posted at 15.08.11 09:40:40 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 18) : did you pack enough pink :?: :lol:

  • Comment 21, posted at 15.08.11 09:43:16 by rekinek Reply
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  • I’m repeating what I said on another thread, but well done to the Sharks; some oustanding defence, composure, and tactical appreciation of the correct game for the conditions.

    However, again as mentioned, this was effectively the Stormers B/C side, in light of which I thought the guys from down South did really well to only lose by 2.

    Most pleasant surprise on the night was Ross Skeate’s standard of play; man, did he make me eat some of my words. The guy was HUGE.

    I did not get to see the U-21 game, but the score suggest we were soundly beaten. Of concern is that fact that the general opinion seems to be that our centers did not really shape up. This is a major worry for me, in lieu of the fact that our incumbent Sharks centers also don’t really set the world alight, and our U-21′s are currently the understudies for next year’s S15. Anyone who watched the game and/or been following the U-21′s care to comment?

  • Comment 22, posted at 15.08.11 09:51:34 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Great game to watch but I probably own a few more grey hairs after Friday evening. Congrats to all the youngsters stepping up!

  • Comment 23, posted at 15.08.11 09:53:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : I hope the younger centres are not demotivated because the senior side seems to favour importing centres at the moment.

  • Comment 24, posted at 15.08.11 09:56:04 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : I hear what you are saying – but remember – we were also missing Bissie, Jannie, (Smit although gone now), Deysel, Alberts, JP (is that all?) – so in my opinion this is not so much more a “B” side than the Sharks was…

  • Comment 25, posted at 15.08.11 09:58:54 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 25) : Beast too

  • Comment 26, posted at 15.08.11 09:59:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 24) : Are those things we’re importing centers!? :shock: I’d never have known…

  • Comment 27, posted at 15.08.11 10:00:20 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 27) : :lol:

  • Comment 28, posted at 15.08.11 10:01:52 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 25) : True, we were missing a bunch of players. However, the point I’m trying to make is that even with our players returned, I don’t believe we would have been orders of magnitude better, whereas had Province has their first choice players back, it would have been a kettle of fish altogether. So it’s a both a testimony to the depth we have, but also an indictment of the team to a certain extent.

  • Comment 29, posted at 15.08.11 10:04:37 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 29) : Okay – It just seem that you take away the credit which is in my opinion due to our young team. ;-)

  • Comment 30, posted at 15.08.11 10:09:42 by Ice Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 17) : Room for improvement = Weather :)

  • Comment 31, posted at 15.08.11 10:13:48 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 27) : it started with flyhalves and now spread :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 15.08.11 10:16:15 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : The scoreline is not a true reflection of the game. Our under 21s were in the game until deep into the second half and were leading at that stage when Province scored 3 good tries that skewed the result, much like our under 21s victory a few weeks ago against their Free state counterparts. Generally the Province boys seem more composed and sure of themselves. They were slightly better in the scrums but did not dominate. Our under 21s did get a lot of ball and unfortunately it mostly did not get past our centres who tended to overdo the bash or attempted to step their opposition. Our centres are good but I feel tried to do too much. Zellinger was good when he was on and was big on defence. He was replaced by Jordan who is incredibly light on his feet he almost seems to be floating. His play was limeted to serving as a link with his centres which he did well but I feel he could have taken the ball up before offloading to the centres. Gouws Prinsloo at fullback can be called Meneer this morning, he was seriously good.

    I did not see the game but the under 19s drew 9 all and I think that is a massive result for them.

  • Comment 33, posted at 15.08.11 10:16:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 30) : That is not my intention. I thought the team did vey well, and that the two point margin actually flatters Province. I’m just trying to point out that our ultimate aim must be S15 success, and there is still work to be done. As for the young guys, I now have a Marcel Coetzee tattoo next to my K-Dog one. Happy? :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 15.08.11 10:17:33 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 34) : Extremely happy! :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 35, posted at 15.08.11 10:19:49 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 30) :

    Your young team??

    Most of your players have SR experience.

    Your youngsters consist of 2 props, 1x lock, one loosie and thats about it.

    That’s not a young team! :roll:

  • Comment 36, posted at 15.08.11 10:27:44 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 36) : YOUNG, WES, is just a term – it does not necessarily mean in terms of AGE.

  • Comment 37, posted at 15.08.11 10:34:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 37) :

    :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 15.08.11 10:35:09 by wpw Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 22) : We were soundly beaten in 1 area for sure. The lineouts. Reniel Hugo and Quinn Roux were not in a generous mood esp on our throws. From there it was hard to build a constructive base. Young Piet-Steph worked his butt off in the loose but without Peet Marais we were no match for them in the lineout.

    Otherwise we fought hard and did reasonably well in other aspects. We really took the game to them in the 2nd half. With 20min to go we led 16-15.

    But all credit to WP u21. A very talented team, playing as a team with purpose and continuity. They were clinical in the red zone. Nizaam Carr is another simple outstanding young player.

    Unfortunately Heimar and Piet were overshadowed by Michael vd Spuy and Ryan Nell. They had a few good runs between them but didn’t show much star quality this time around. Our gameplan also doesn’t give our centres that much to work with imho. The Province centres are very attack-minded ballplayers who make sound decisions with the ball in hand. They were very effective on the day and vd Spuy’s reputation is enhanced with every game.

    Gouws Prinsloo is the form player in our u21 team and it would be nice to see him tested at a higher level.

  • Comment 39, posted at 15.08.11 10:36:39 by beet Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : Oops you beat me to the punch. Mental note to myself: must learn to type faster :razz:

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  • @beet (Comment 40) : There is no way that you can type slower than me, I just think I saw the question before you.

  • Comment 41, posted at 15.08.11 10:49:28 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Rekinek I have the pink its the white I am a little low on :( I have some white head gear but I don’t know if I’ll have the guts to wear it :oops:

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 34) : I hope your wife also watches rugby, otherwise she gonna wanna know who this Marcell is :)

  • Comment 43, posted at 15.08.11 12:08:02 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 42) : You are worrying too much about the white!! I told you what to do! LOL

    Make sure you have the SW gear and add a dash of pink! ;-)

  • Comment 44, posted at 15.08.11 12:09:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 42) : @Ice (Comment 44) :
    I am with Ice on that one – not to worry :razz:

    I am also short on white more of a black with excessive pink add-ons (and when I say excessive I mean it :mrgreen: )

  • Comment 45, posted at 15.08.11 12:18:57 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 43) : LOL. Been down that road when we were dating; I went hiking in South America and had to share a tent with some Israeli guys. When I e-mailed her I told her, but neglected to mention that Shuki and Ariel were of the male persuasion. Troubles…

  • Comment 46, posted at 15.08.11 12:20:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 34) : Keegs may be jealous :lol:

  • Comment 47, posted at 15.08.11 12:23:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 45) : Great = I might also be “noticed” with my pink accesories! :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 15.08.11 12:29:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 48) : :cool:
    Just thinking about the white now ..hmmm… perhaps I should get myself a white poodle ;-)

  • Comment 49, posted at 15.08.11 12:34:34 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 46) : :shock:

  • Comment 50, posted at 15.08.11 12:37:00 by wpw Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 49) : :mrgreen: :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 15.08.11 12:50:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice & Rekinek I have all my sharksworld gear sorted with the pink accessories, and headgear, I found a white and pink head gear – bunny ears – but I don’t know whether I’ll have the guts to wear them :lol:

  • Comment 52, posted at 15.08.11 13:17:22 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • They are packed in any case :)

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 52) : Off course you will have the guts! I was thinking of that too, but decided to go a bit avant-garde… :lol:

  • Comment 54, posted at 15.08.11 13:32:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 52) : If you wear the ears you have to wear the rest of then accessories as well.

    You will stand out with the ears and then we will know its you when we watch it on Sharkbite TV.

  • Comment 55, posted at 15.08.11 13:45:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Ice yeah I think if we meet at hotel and walk to breakfast together I may just get the shutzpah to wear them
    @Salmanoid I’ll wear the tail too, look carefully ;)

  • Comment 56, posted at 15.08.11 13:49:50 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @beet: jp du plessis and piet lindeque.how close was the sa schools selection between the tow?any idea?
    Is jp dup still at the rebels?

  • Comment 57, posted at 15.08.11 18:17:39 by bergshark Reply

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