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Exactly where they want to be


Written by Jonathan Burt (VinChainSaw)

Posted in :Original Content, RWC 2011, Springboks, Tri Nations on 22 Aug 2011 at 18:58
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For years Springbok rugby fans have lamented the poor planning and tactics which gives rise to the perceived thinking that the Springboks are continually behind the curve when it comes to planning and preparation for big games and tournaments when compared to our Australasian friends.

Let me now put it on record: I believe the Boks are exactly where they want to be in their preparations for the World Cup next month. I believe further that we are in as good a position as we could possibly be in.

Am I just donning rose-tinted glasses? I penned an article a couple of weeks ago where I expressed my confidence in both the Springbok side and in the preparations they are currently under-going in respect of the World Cup.

My view is unchanged.  In fact it has been even further strengthened.

Allow me a few minutes and perhaps you’ll understand how I perceive things.

Let me first repeat the central theme of my last article; the losses in the away leg of the TriNations mean absolutely nothing. We didn’t only send over a B team, we sent over a C team. They got hammered, it wasn’t pretty to watch, but in the greater scheme of things it meant not a dot.

I am in complete agreement with Peter de Villiers when he said we won the game against Australia everywhere but on the scoreboard. Bit of a loser thing to say but hear me out.

We played an Australian side that included almost half of the SuperRugby winning Reds side that had, in the last month or so, played the SuperRugby final, played a warm-up against the Bok C side and then had a humdinger against New Zealand, before flying over to play the Boks in Durban. Our guys, being the ones that played the home games in the TriNations, were getting some much-needed rest and spent the month leading up to the home games planning a World Cup campaign.

Who did we expect were going to more match-fit? The team that had played three massive games on the trot or the ones that had spent a month strategising, toning and working on plans and technique?

Further to that there were still some experiments to be tried and for many it was the first competitive game they’d played alongside some of their team mates for quite some time.

Yet we still only lost by 5 points. Five points.

Fast forward a week and the boys were able to topple the mighty kiwis. Still, there are concerns. The failure to really pressure the All Black line, the lack of line-breaks in the backs along with the reliance on Morne Steyn’s boot has been highlighted by every rugby scribe in the Anglo Saxon world. Our lot, along with the rabid fans, have been most vociferous.

I don’t see it like this at all. Maybe I was watching a different game; alternatively a lot of rugby scribes and fans are not looking at the bigger picture.

First off let’s banish the idea that Springbok rugby has ever been anywhere near as flashy as that of New Zealand or Australia. It’s simply not the way we play and it has never been the case. Bok rugby is, to a certain extent, about bullying the opposition. I prefer to see it as a relentless pressure that forces the opposition onto the back-foot and forces them to make mistakes which we capitalise on ruthlessly. Rugby is a game of backs AND forwards. Although it helps, it’s simply a fallacy to think that there is only one way to win a game.

This brings me nicely onto another criticism levelled at the Boks, this time more extensively by the foreign press. Their claim is they saw nothing to suggest that Boks had varied their game plan in any meaningful way from that employed in 2007. The suggestion is that this sort of rugby has been left in the dinosaur age and is no longer good enough to win the World Cup in the “new” age of fast-paced rugby.

I find this laughable. Rugby, at its very core, is a physical game involving collisions of big guys. No amount of flash will ever change that.

We’ve been told how the Boks have been working in Rustenberg and I suspect everybody and his dog therefore thought they would come out with some sort of new attacking game plan. I don’t think that’s what our boys were doing in Rustenberg. I rather think they were working very hard on their basics, especially in the forward set pieces. We dined handsomely on the all Blacks in the scrums on Saturday, whether it was with Bismarck or Smit in the number 2 jumper. We did well in the line-outs and we murdered them at the break-down. In my mind those are the non-negotiable building blocks of a World Cup campaign and the Boks had them well-covered.

Furthermore, if you can win a game by doing the basics well, why would you want to try the little tricks up your sleeve and allow the opposition the opportunity to study video footage and put plans in place to combat this? And do it against the best team in the world? Thats all the Boks did; they concentrated on the bland and executed it well to claim the win. There was no need for anything extraordinary because when you’re outclassing your opposition in the basics you’ve put yourself on the right side of the odds to win the game.

Finally, please don’t under-estimate the motivation this team has. For a very large portion of the side they will be moving to pastures green at the conclusion of this competition. For many more this will be the last bite they get of the World Cup apple. There is tremendous experience in this side and these guys are able to roll the dice; even if they don’t win the Cup they’ll still go down in the annuls of history as legends of the game. If they win it they’ll be even greater legends. That sort of situation breeds a nothing-to-lose mindset where there is no fear of failure. Contrast this with the current All Blacks side…

All in all I’m more than happy with where we are and, with the much-spoken influence of the senior Springboks, I’m sure they’re exactly where they want to be too.

We might not win the World Cup, it’s a lottery at the best of times, but these guys are going to give it one helluva crack.



58 Comments

  • Ok this is a lot of reading, gime some time to get thru it… ;)

  • Comment 1, posted at 22.08.11 19:22:32 by Franshark Reply
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  • great article – I cannot argue the fundamentals. I ask this though – why can’t we stick to our guns – what the hell happened over the last year and a half – we slumped and then revert back to a plan that works since time began? The cycles of rugby I suppose – I maintain that whatever gameplan we have / employ / utilize / bastardize – The Boks should win at least 75% of all test matches – not 50 something… We are better than that – and fans want to see domination year in year out, not in four year cyclicals…

  • Comment 2, posted at 22.08.11 19:39:35 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • I have lost my title as the PDV cheerleader
    :hangshisheadinshame:

    :twisted:

  • Comment 3, posted at 22.08.11 19:47:37 by Morné Reply
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  • Heck not going to read all that. But I agree.

    The Boks play a game where they shut the opposition down and force them into mistakes. It doesn’t matter who the All Blacks or Aussies get back into their team. If we play our game, they will be under the same pressure they were under on Saturday.

    The Boks are in the best possible position at the moment. Me? I’m pretty darn confident.

  • Comment 4, posted at 22.08.11 19:59:04 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 2) :

    DD, I agree I’d also prefer to see domination all the time.

    But we’re in the minority.
    Most fans say they’d prefer this but witness the attitude to the Proteas. They have dominated world cricket for ages yet the lack of big trophies mean there’s forever large parts of the fan base that continually criticise and calls for the heads of the coaches, captain and players.

    You cant win in South African sport. I think thats why this group of players, along with the coach, are willing to roll the dice and forego the TriNations for the chance of World Cup glory. they simply have nothing to lose and wont be around next season anyway.

    20 years from now nobody will remember these losses and the drama around PdV if they bring home the trophy.

  • Comment 5, posted at 22.08.11 20:02:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • ouch

    but this is the 1st one of your articals i’ve really read and with much thought the words are true i must say, with that i do agree we have depth etc we might not win but will give our best.

    Its not always as supportes to see the team loose, but i really didn’t think about the A,B & C teams i was thought you get into the team as one for your country don’t get me wrong yes we have players that are better or more experence as others but still one team and for one most of our old players ok senior players were playing except for smit maybe one or more 2 i can’t recall i just hope that PDV has sth up his sleeve because my thought only i can’t talk for others but he is really is a pain with words when it comes to a loosing game.

  • Comment 6, posted at 22.08.11 20:04:44 by chaz Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 4) :

    Sorry mate; its not often that I manage to sit down and pen an article… means I normally have a fair bit to say… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 22.08.11 20:05:14 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 5) : agree but do you really in your heart think we will bring the trophey home and PDV well he is another story all together, if i was in his shoes and i’m not even in them and don’t want to be i would off hanged up my boots ages ago as (afrigter)

  • Comment 8, posted at 22.08.11 20:09:40 by chaz Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 7) :

    We can only get better from here, and to be honest the All Blacks had no positives coming from that loss. Tony Woodcock was made to look a fool. They have no line-out lock. Unsettled on the wings.

    The Springboks have stability. The players know what they need to do. Now it just comes down to execution. And the bigger the games get, the more you’ll see them step up.

  • Comment 9, posted at 22.08.11 20:11:07 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 5) : yeah; but my idea of domination includes big trophies – and besides we have a won a world cup here and there; I just ask for more consistency more of the time… The Boks are a 75% team – but yeah Vin; we are singing from the same song sheet…

  • Comment 10, posted at 22.08.11 20:11:22 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @chaz (Comment 8) :

    Yup, I really think we could.

    As for PdV: every coach in the professional era has been vilified and all have had their faults.
    But if they all walked away when they goign got tough where would we be now?

    I’m not a big PdV fan myself. But I also place more weight on results than press conferences.
    If he wins the World Cup, which he very well could, what will you have to say then? He’ll then be the most successful coach the Springboks have ever had, by some margin.

    Like it not Divvy has won a helluva lot in his tenure as coach.
    He’s won more trophies than all of Viljoen, du Plessis, Streuli and Mallett. Together.

  • Comment 11, posted at 22.08.11 20:50:32 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 11) : Sure he has got trophies and results – end of story – will he keep his job if he wins? I know he wants more… I would like a combo of Rassie and Eddie Jones with Ali Coetzee – I’d also like to see some defensive and forward consultants utilized… If PDivvy wins the world cup – The Nation wins – lets get behind the Bokke! The win this weekend helped my belief…

  • Comment 12, posted at 22.08.11 21:07:50 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 10) :

    Dude, I’d like to see 75% along with anybody else, but it aint gonna happen. The simple fact is we play agaisnt Oz and NZ four times a year, that already messes the numbers up as you’d only realistically expect to win the home games on a consistent basis.

    Worth noting we only have a 55% historical win ratio against France… 58% against England…

  • Comment 13, posted at 22.08.11 21:08:58 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 12) :

    Personally I think he’ll pack it in either way; and I hope he does.

    I think four years is more than enough of a tenure fro any coach and I’d also like to see more tactical staff used.
    I think the game changes too much in 4 years to justify keeping the same ideas.

  • Comment 14, posted at 22.08.11 21:10:59 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • Nice one Vinnie!

    Fully agree: we are exactly where we want to be – well rested, and with no uncertainty regarding our game-plan and squad selection.

    The AB’s are particularly vulnerable in high pressure knock-outs because their usual game-plan requires a lot of confidence and an element of risk. We are going in with a simple game-plan that we will not need to change for pressure matches, and that we execute very well. Good odds.

  • Comment 15, posted at 22.08.11 21:12:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Good read.

    But.

    our Australasian compatriots. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I’d rather cut my big round ….s off than consider or call the shackle dragging alcoholics my compatriots.

    “compatriot – a person from your own country”

  • Comment 16, posted at 22.08.11 23:02:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • We could not even pummel a weakened ab team,how are we going to win them in the rwc if they do not choke.

  • Comment 17, posted at 22.08.11 23:22:49 by Honey Badger Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 16) :

    Hmmm… good point.

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.08.11 00:30:03 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @Honey Badger (Comment 17) : We’ll choke them ;)

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.08.11 06:33:07 by Franshark Reply
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  • Ok so I got thru the reading…
    I would say that there’s still one or two Q not answered, FB and the match fitness of a player like Schalk is some things that is still out there…
    The form of most of the senior players lifted in the last 2 games and is there for some consolation to the fact that we lost/ended way last on the 3N log… All is definitely not lost and I for one is exited and think our chances is not overwhelming but still not less than any other teams chances…

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.08.11 07:18:24 by Franshark Reply
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  • VintheSpin doctor.
    Australia play a tough match against NZ. They then fly half way around the world to meet the tremendously experienced 810 cap well rested Bok team in a country that they aren’t, I beg you pardon, weren’t accustomed to winning in (that is until PdV took the reigns). They win by 5 points. But they might as well have lost coz the Boks won everything that didn’t count on the scoreboard. The Springboks are in a good place. With their backs to the wall in the game, the Boks preferred to lose that game rather than show the Aussies any of the tricks they had up their sleeves and are saving for the RWC. Right! What do you hear when you play Queen’s record “Another one bites the dust” backwards.

    The Boks are meant to be in a good place every time they run onto the field, not just once every 4 years. Sacrificing 2 away games in a RWC year is fine but losing to Aus on home soil. Unacceptable. Unless off course you’re PdV and you want everyone to buy into your B.S. explanations for how the world goes round.

    I really hope the Springboks win the RWC or if not do really well and make us proud. But I don’t think we should be nearly as confident as this article suggests.

    But a good read. Always interesting when someone is brave enough to go against the grain.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.08.11 07:58:09 by beet Reply
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  • If we play the way we play very well we can win this thing but I would also like to see a Bok team playing more consistently inbetween world cup’s

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.08.11 08:42:43 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 21) :
    In which WC year have the Boks been dominant? I think Vinnie makes it pretty clear that he doesn’t back the strategy of sacrificing all else to win the WC, but this is not a PdV thing – this is an SA rugby thing.

    Strange as the concept may seem to some, not all the ailments in SA rugby started with PdV.

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.08.11 08:51:19 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Good read as usual Vinnie. I’m feeling a little bullish about our chances in the RWC.

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.08.11 09:03:21 by molly Reply
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  • Hey Vin, I’ve said this before but it bears repeating; I really enjoy your positive outlook, backed up by well thought through and balanced arguments, not just empty rhetoric. You make our little blog world a better place.

    Now if you could write something similarly positive about the Sharks’ centre situation to counteract the largely negatve sentiments expressed in both Richard’s and my article, that would be great.

    ‘kthnxbye (in the parlance of our times)

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.08.11 09:04:42 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 25) :

    Now that would just be asking Vinnie to do the IMPOSSIBLE. :twisted:

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.08.11 09:10:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 26) : You’ve got a nice creative centre at the Sharks, they just dont play him.

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.08.11 09:14:42 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 26) : You underestimate Vinnie’s capacity for optimism…

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.08.11 09:18:25 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 27) : To be competetive you need a minimum of two decent centres with at least one competent backup. The math don’t add up.

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.08.11 09:19:41 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 29) : Ek sê maar net

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.08.11 09:25:22 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • the scrums were indeed he shining light in the game.

    Very VERY disappointed and disconcerted with the look at Bismarck’s face when he was being replaced by Smit. Very.

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.08.11 09:29:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • I sort of agree with Beet here. It is hard for me to accept that we’re in a good place regarding preparations for the RWC when our forwards totally dominate a second string AB side and we don’t even come close to scoring a try.

    The AB’s, on the other hand (with their forwards being dominated), cut our first-choice backline to shreds and, bar some excellent cover defense from the likes of Habana, JPP and later Hougaard, almost scored another 3 tries.

    And that from backline combinations that have hardly played together before.

    I would love to feel positive vibrations, but unfortunately can’t shake this feeling that things aren’t so irie with Bok rugby.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.08.11 09:30:44 by rhineshark Reply
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  • ohh and can I get some recognition for recognising the importance of the kicking in WC scenario :twisted:

    having said that I am not very positive. I am close to saying that All Blacks lost this game rather than the Boks won. Though I will be happy if Vinnie’s analysis and ensuing prediction is more accurate than mine ;-)

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.08.11 09:34:39 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 21) :

    I think you need to accept the fact that we are just not as good and consistent as the All Blacks. We haven’t been since re-admission.

    Regarding our home record vs AUS and NZ: We only really starting beating them consistently at home when Jake took over with a win % record of 77%.

    I agree re: Div’s home record against the same opponents. He has a win record of 55% which is way inferior but compare the away wins and Div easily comes out tops.

    Prior to 2004 we really struggled to dominate and only had good seasons in 1995 (RWC), 1997 and 1998.

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.08.11 09:35:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 19) : :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.08.11 09:37:55 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 19) : but we need to find Suzie – hmmmm – maybe this is all what Lady Rugga was about after all :mrgreen:

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.08.11 09:38:03 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 25) : i am afraid that in this case even Vinnie would have to don a seriously pink glasses ;-)

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.08.11 09:44:38 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 32) : Following on this thought. I am not sure how much we can read into beating AB’s B team at home. Similarly (and Vinnie seem to support this view) we can’t read much into Bok B team being smashed overseas.

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.08.11 09:48:18 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 23) : There Wes has just mentioned it 1995!

    And I didn’t say all ailments in SA rugby start with PdV. We need a serious rethink about the way we tackle international rugby. Recently our SR teams have started winning regularly in the Antipodes – this culture needs to filter thru to the Boks. Unfortunately the simple plan is too simple. When they made away with the ELVs last year, we saw how predictable it really is.

    I did indicate that Vinnie would make a good spindoctor coz PdV wud love us all to believe that losing to Aus in SA is hunky-dory and that Bok rugby is a great place right now.

    But equally so, I enjoyed reading the article. Thanks Vin.

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.08.11 10:24:43 by beet Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 38) : True, but there remains the nagging thought that the Aussie and AB A teams scored 5 tries to 2 and 6 tries to 1 respectively against our B team, while our A team has managed NO tries against either the Aussies at home (after a tough game against the AB’s the week before and travelling to SA) or the AB B team and conceded 2.

    All-in-all 3 for and 13 against. Not the kind of stat that gets me excited about a World Cup defense.

    But I’ll be happy as hell if the Boks get it together somehow and I got my pie-hole shut. :grin:

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.08.11 10:49:27 by rhineshark Reply
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  • I like the way you think . Exactly how I feel about where the boks are at the moment. I think the boks still are hitting the 70 % mark in terms of performance, just watch .

    Funny enough our backline looked more able with steyn at fh :P
    Another thing ,if DC goes down with a nigle during this world cup the ab are in deep poop.

    I like to think of the allblacks as fire ,aus as eath(have alot of that in the ob) ,us as water -and the french as a collection of hydrogen and oxygen molecules ;)

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.08.11 11:27:54 by Talent Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 40) : I am in two minds about the defence. Seemingly it proved quite effective in stopping ABs from scoring more tries although the first line of defence was porous. Perhaps it was just ABs mistakes like passing to Jacques Fourie instead of to AB. This happened I think twice and was funny :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.08.11 11:34:57 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 41) : Morne Steyn is somewhat different player with Fourie du Preez playing 9.

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.08.11 11:35:38 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 31) : the reason for him being upset has not been established yet.. :evil:

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.08.11 12:17:38 by Franshark Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 42) : The cover defense was awesome, but I would prefer it if our first line of defense was tight enough so that we don’t have to scramble so much, because it inevitably means we end up under pressure in our 22.

    A better AB side would not be passing so readily to JF or find other ways of butchering tries so I shall remain sceptical until proven guilty of not knowing WTF I’m talking about on a field of play. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.08.11 12:22:06 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 44) : He said that he was disappointed at being subbed, because he was having such a good game and enjoying it. A bit unprofessional and probably doesn’t do much for team harmony – sort of reminded me of when Os was gatvol. Maybe it’s a Vrystater thing. ;-)

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.08.11 12:25:26 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 41) : I think a lot is said on the MS sage, but I think any of the FH contenders would have looked good on saturday behind a forward moving pack… But again I say its too late now to look els, he has to be the first choice now.. His kicking at posts were good, but in all I still feel we kicked away way to many balls in the game..

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.08.11 12:29:28 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 47) : Morne played to his strength ie. he just kept kicking and it must be said that some of these kicks were exceptionally good and some disappointing (especially not finding touch when the Boks are under pressure in their own 22). Giving him the credit I really felt that there was too much kicking.

    And tapping onto the discussion with Rhineshark about the defence. I’ve heard this saying that world cups are won on defence but I still find it difficult to believe that a team can sustain such pressure as Boks on Saturday for 7 weeks in the row.

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.08.11 13:15:46 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 39) :
    Our build-up to 1995 was very poor as I recall. Reckon wpw might be on the bottle again. :wink:

    PdV aint perfect, but Morne particularly has tried to explain a few times that the malaise in SA rugby has to do with the structured and approach, more than with coaches and players.

    The day the governing body refuses to accept dismal inter-WC performance in return for promises of WC glory is the day coaches start to take the broader approach we all want.

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.08.11 13:41:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : The day the governing body refuses to accept dismal inter-WC performance in return for promises of WC glory is the day coaches start to take the broader approach we all want.

    That is exactly it.

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.08.11 13:52:04 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) :

    We played 10 tests during that year and won all of them!!

    Pretty crap year wasn’t it?? :roll:

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.08.11 15:03:26 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 49) : The build up was 1 warmup game and Wes is right. We went thru the season unbeaten.

    But we all want the same thing at the end of the day. It’s just that you, Vinnie and PdV believe we’re exactly where we need to be. I’m not nearly as confident.

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.08.11 15:17:04 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 52) :

    I wasnt referring to a test win/loss ratio for the year; I was specifically referring to the last month or so.

    Of course we could’ve been in a better position but that would’ve required different decisions to have been made over the past four years.
    For what we have and where we are I believe we’re exactly where the current crop of players want to be.

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.08.11 15:30:17 by VinChainSaw Reply
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  • @VinChainSaw (Comment 53) : In comment 52 I’m just following on and replying to Big Fish.

    Believe it or not I actually appreciate his input.

    It’s all good Vin :smile:

  • Comment 54, posted at 23.08.11 15:57:05 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 54) :
    During 1994-95 (pre-WC) we played the AB’s 3 times and won zero. We also lost against Otago, Scotland A and the Barbarians.

    Not sure that qualifies as a good build-up to me.

    Like I said, wpw and the bottle – bad combo. If he knew anything about rugby, would he support WP?

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.08.11 16:10:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) : i am not sure whether 1995 is a good comparison. RSA was hosting WC and it was first WC that RSA participated. So all related emotions must have been added motivation for the players.

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.08.11 16:15:43 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 55) : Looking at the timeline and what really happened where 2 entirely different things. Back then I was the kind of supporter who’d invest too much emotion in games and the politics that Louis Luyt brought. Fortunately I think I can now look back and put things in perspective.

    Preparations only started after Luyt axed Mac in 1994 and made his main man Kitch the coach. Kitch was described as a father figure by many of the Transvaal players that he used to form the core of te Bok team. Natalians hated it particularly the way Mac was treated. We were bitter rivals of Transvaal in those days. But it turned out to be the best thing for SA rugby at the time. The preparations, altho nowhere near the levels of focus attributed to RWC nowadays was near perfect in 1995. Kitch had a style of rugby in mind and the Bok team executed it well. We only played 1 warm up game prior to that RWC.

    Mac’s games in NZ in 1994 don’t count. The coach was changed and so were some key personnel.

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.08.11 17:15:57 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 57) :
    Once one enters the realms of justifications, the boundaries become fuzzy.

    Ultimately the point is simply that Bok teams have never enjoyed sustainable successful periods between World Cups, and that this phenomena is not unique to the PdV period.

    The reasons for this are not single or simple. They are also not relevant to this discussion – I think most of us agree on them anyway.

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.08.11 17:52:21 by Big Fish Reply
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