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Pat Lambie: not a fullback


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Springboks on 23 Sep 2011 at 08:00
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I was wholly unimpressed with the performance of Pat Lambie at fullback against Namibia yesterday. I must say, that ever since it was confirmed that Lambie was going along, I held onto a bizarre hope that the youngster would be allowed 80 minutes to dazzle in his best position against the tournament minnows. That was not to be.

Let me be perfectly clear about this. Pat Lambie is not a fullback. He may be safe under the high ball (for the most part) but that just about ends the list of things that makes him a potentially great prospect in the last line of defence. Hi boot, while educated, can hardly be described as “booming” and he lacks the one quality necessary in any counter attacker from the last line – searing pace.

Lambie is a play-maker. What he does well is create opportunities for those around him. He reads a game superbly, tackles well above his weight and has an eye for the half gap. Add to that a steady head and an ability to mostly make the right decision in-game and you have all the makings of a really top flyhalf. Let’s not forget that the Sharks surged to the Currie Cup title with Lambie in the number 10 jersey last year, not at fullback. His play at the back has only ever been competent, occasionally verging on good, while I feel at flyhalf, he consistently stands out, more often than not bordering on superb.

I’ve had a lot to say on this in the past, about how players need to slot in where they’re needed and I think it’s a great testament to Lambie’s character and versatility that he’s starting tests for the Boks at fullback. When he comes back home, though, he needs to be used at flyhalf and if that means finding another spot for Fred Michalak, so be it.

I’ve had my say on this point – let me know what yours is.



64 Comments

  • I agree with you to a extent,it was 1 bad game but that doesn’t mean his not a fullback.I think his best position is still flyhalf but he is a brilliant fullback 2,I would like for him to play flyhalf though

  • Comment 1, posted at 23.09.11 08:12:19 by Poisy Reply
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  • I wanted Lambie at fullback, but after that performance, I’ve got to agree. He’s not all that quick off the mark, and his positioning was terrible.

    I hope he does great things at flyhalf, and that the Sharks don’t mess around with him. He’s still got a long way to go unfortunately.

    Thing that concerns me is that he didn’t play much flyhalf at school (did he?). That means learning the position at a high level under pressure.

  • Comment 2, posted at 23.09.11 08:15:48 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 2) : his last year at school he played a lot of flyhalf ,when he was in grade 11 he played fullback because the cronje twins played scrumhalf and flyhalf and that was they last year

  • Comment 3, posted at 23.09.11 08:18:52 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 3) :

    I see. That’s a good thing then :grin: Hopefully the Sharks give him a full season at 10 instead of shifting him around. That will show us what he’s really capable of.

    Riaan Viljoen now becomes the starting fullback next year!?!? :?:

  • Comment 4, posted at 23.09.11 08:21:02 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Sharks to sign Frans Steyn and solve 80% of their backline woes!

  • Comment 5, posted at 23.09.11 08:25:35 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 4) : I’d like riaan to play centre,ludik is an awesome fullback very underrated!

  • Comment 6, posted at 23.09.11 08:26:38 by Poisy Reply
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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 5) :

    Shit man. 2 weeks ago no Sharks supporter wanted to go near him.

    I for one hope he goes to the Cheetahs (with the understanding that he will only play 12 unless there is a major injury crisis).

  • Comment 7, posted at 23.09.11 08:27:38 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Rob, I agree with you in principle: Pat is the man for flyhalf from what we currently have available (let’s see Goosen at Super Rugby level and then see if that changes anything). He suits the Bok game very well in that he provides a great deal of solidity at 10, around which the outside backs can play.

    However, I don’t think one can discard him at 15 just yet. Two consecutive starting games in a new position, in a new team, at the highest level is not enough time to judge. He could settle in the coming weeks, with the same back 3 every game, and produce a master-class at 15.

    However, the WC is not about developing players into a position, so the simplest solution for now may well be ro bring Fransie to 15, JdV to 12 for now.

  • Comment 8, posted at 23.09.11 08:29:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Poisy (Comment 6) :

    Don’t rate Ludik at all personally, but sure!

    Viljoen, if he were a few years younger and had been playing for the Bulls would be at the World Cup right now.

  • Comment 9, posted at 23.09.11 08:30:44 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 2) : Also all the rugby experts on this and other sites tell us that one of a) Goosen b) Jantjes c) Ebersohn d) Misc grey college alumni will be the future Bok flyhalf anyway, so maybe Lambie should be content playing wherever he is told he will start (like Ruan, John Smit, Frans Steyn etc etc)

  • Comment 10, posted at 23.09.11 08:31:09 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : Not me, dude. Ive always been a fan. He makes a lot of errors, but he brings a lot to the table. Ive forgiven him for the 2007 super 14 final. Name me one player in SA rugby (or the world) who would be a better acquisition for the sharks at 12? Name me a position the Sharks need to address more than number 12?

  • Comment 11, posted at 23.09.11 08:33:31 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 10) :

    Jantjies and Ebersohn are both decent S15 players. Don’t believe anyone that tells you they should be Springbok flyhalf.

  • Comment 12, posted at 23.09.11 08:34:21 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 11) :

    13 & 6. Meyer Bosman does an alright job at 12. They could definitely upgrade, but I’d worry about those 2 positions first.

  • Comment 13, posted at 23.09.11 08:35:30 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 8) : Is it just me, or does JDV tend to crash the ball up too often without looking to offload? Also, for a relatively big guy, he very rarely dominates in the tackle. He tends to drag down his opposite number.

  • Comment 14, posted at 23.09.11 08:35:57 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • I don’t think Lambie had a horrible game. The style of play on the day just didn’t suite him at the back.

    When everything opens up like it did against Namibia you need a guy like Aplon who moves well in space. Lambie doesn’t need that much space, in fact it now seems his lack of shear pace, makes space somewhat of a liability to him.

    When there is so much space already, then Lambie doesn’t have to create any more and that’s what he does. He creates space for the players around him when there seems to be none. He does this at flyhalf and I’ve seen him do it at Fullback.

    That’s what makes him a special player. He gets more opportunity to do this when playing flyhalf, but I believe in tight games this can be just as important at fullback, when maybe finding space in the midfield becomes more difficult.

    So Lambie is not a “chuck the ball around” type of player, that’s nothing new to me, but when things get a little tough, I know he will still be the one to “create” more than most players, especially those that looked really good against Namibia.

    That’s my point of view.

  • Comment 15, posted at 23.09.11 08:37:26 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) :

    Take off the Lambie goggles and then let us know what really happened out there! :lol:

  • Comment 16, posted at 23.09.11 08:38:47 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 12) : I was being sarcastic… Elton has had 2 good currie cups and one very poor super rugby outing, Goosen may be the real deal but hasnt proved it yet. Sias actually did quite well for the FS in the super 15 this year. @hendrikp (Comment 13) : Dont agree about Bosman. He has improved during the watered down currie cup, but he was a liability in the super 15 (and thats being polite).

  • Comment 17, posted at 23.09.11 08:41:25 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 17) :

    You’re right Bosman was a liability, but at the same time I’d like to see what he does next to a flyhalf that plays a little more direct and a physical outside centre.

    A 2nd-five makes more tackles then anyone on the field (barring the openside for some teams). So it’s understandable when you’ve got Michalak on your inside & Terriblanche on your outside that a few might get past you.

    I think Bosman can do a job there. More worried about the lack of a genuine openside flanker and a physical centre (would love to see de Jongh go to the Sharks, but can’t see him ever leaving Cape Town).

  • Comment 18, posted at 23.09.11 08:44:35 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 15) : Oh and also, I think what Frans Steyn brings to 12 far out weighs what Lambie may or may not lack at 15.

    I like Jean De Villiers, and always thought he’s an excellent player, but he’s been struggeling for a while now.

    I wouldn’t change the team.

  • Comment 19, posted at 23.09.11 08:45:07 by Letgo Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 18) : I generally agree, although Bosman played outside Lambie for the super 15, but yes, 13 is also a problem, but sharks can only plug one leak at a time :grin: I strongly agree about openside flanker. The sharks have been shown to be very vulnerable when the ball goes to ground. There is no genuine fetcher in the sharks squad and the bleed penalties in this situation. Unfortunately Brussouw has resigned with the Cheetahs, and SA doesnt have another fetcher in the same league to go after.

  • Comment 20, posted at 23.09.11 08:49:20 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • I would love to see how Bosmann will perform with Riaan Viljoen at 13. Look to be fair Bosmann’s main problem is his defense, but you can see that he is improving. But he has slick hands, and because of his height can get the pass away in the tackle in a real manner (Not that SBW-hope-it-works manner). Viljoen is fast and physical. So I think it would be good to see Viljoen running of Bosmann’s shoulder with Ludick starting at fullback.

  • Comment 21, posted at 23.09.11 08:54:25 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 16) : I can’t. They’re implants. Same as my Frans Steyntjie goggles.

    I would have to have them surgically removed and actually, I kinda enjoy the view from here, especially since I’m not wrong all that often.

  • Comment 22, posted at 23.09.11 08:59:05 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 21) : Fair enough, but it would be even better to see Lindeque running off Frans Steyns shoulder with Viljoen at fullback

  • Comment 23, posted at 23.09.11 09:07:24 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Jan de Koning rates the South African team:

    15 Pat Lambie:
    He had a good day at the office, starting with his first clearance and attempts to counter from deep. Overall he was solid at the back, but there was a forward pass to Habana.
    7/10

  • Comment 24, posted at 23.09.11 09:10:27 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • This is a subject VERY close to my heart. Lambie is the greatest natural 10 a country can hope for, he is also the best 12 and 15 and then he is good at 13, 14 and 11. He will shape at 9.

    To play Patrick in another spot than 10 is kin to stealing, murder and…..deserves the death penalty. :smile:

  • Comment 25, posted at 23.09.11 09:13:42 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Pablo Dinero (Comment 23) : yes that would be good

  • Comment 26, posted at 23.09.11 09:17:09 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 25) : Wow!! its been a LONG time – good to see you back!

    I ahev to agree with Letgo – Frans’s value at 12 far outweighs him being chosen at 15 – so I’d stick with lambs for the remainder of teh RWC – but agree to bring him back to the Sharks at 10. He is too much of a ‘playing Player”to be at the back.

  • Comment 27, posted at 23.09.11 09:21:31 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 27) : Hehehe thanks Ice. While it may be good to see me back, it is ALWAYS good to see you, kind of soft on the eye. :mrgreen:

    Funny thing about the 2 changes in the Bok team, Frans in on 12 and Lambie in on 15. Suddenly the Bokke can play a running game again.

    If one can take a look at his play in the last 2 games, on attack he is always in the line, while maybe doing nothing more than create that extra player. So it may be easy to miss his contribution in any given move, but he is there all the same.

    I do agree though that he is too slow for 15, or wing, not solid enough for 12,13. But man, can the kid sum up a game and create space!

  • Comment 28, posted at 23.09.11 09:33:16 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 28) : ah thanx Foxy! See u have not lost your charm! :wink:

    I agree – Pat is just a natural! But he has done no wrong at 15 – perhaps people miss his “exciting” play there, but he is doing the job right for the RWC campaing IMO!

  • Comment 29, posted at 23.09.11 09:38:21 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • Personally i agree that Lambie is probably best suited to 10. However i do feel that both him and Frans Steyn need to be on the field if the Boks are going to be successful as both can win you a game. If Lambie wnats to be a 10 he will need to work on his kicking game, both out of hand and for poles.

  • Comment 30, posted at 23.09.11 09:53:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • I like Lambie at 15. :smile:

  • Comment 31, posted at 23.09.11 09:54:46 by McLovin Reply

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  • For the first time in the time I’ve watched Lambie, he’s looked tentative, in last weeks game and the one before he’s looked to pass/kick the ball to early, like he was too nervous to try anything for fear of making a mistake. There were 2 occasions where he didn’t draw his opposition enough before making the pass, but luckily the one was Jaque Fourie who is hard to stop so close to the line, I can’t remember the other one.

    I don’t really see his lack of pace, I think he’s got more than enough, Percy wasn’t known for being incredibly quick (well, in the latter part of his career at least) but was a pretty awesem fullback, Lambie will get there, I think he just has a slight case of nerves, which I really don’t think we’ve seen before from him.

    But yes Rob, for now with the Boks fullback is where he is needed, back at the Sharks he should play at flyhalf, I look forward to seeing how the Sharks handle all their backline players and their rotation.

  • Comment 32, posted at 23.09.11 09:55:54 by molly Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 31) : He is unstoppable at 15, like a Lion :lol:

  • Comment 33, posted at 23.09.11 09:59:39 by Greg Reply

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  • @Greg (Comment 33) : The Lions would’ve put 150 points past Nam yesterday. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 34, posted at 23.09.11 10:05:08 by McLovin Reply

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  • Seriously, though, brave article Rob, well done! Pat is a great 10. I personally would prefer Elton at 10, and will continue to hope and believe that he, with time, will take the step up, and put in the same performance in super rugby that he has done in in this and the last currie cup campaign. But that’s just because he is a Lion. But Pat is not a 15, or a 9, or in fact anything else other than a 10. He will never be able to play in the front row, despite some people’s opinion that he is such a rugby prodigy that he could play any position and make it his own. I have no problem if any player plays out of his best position in an emergency situation, but no player should, in ideal circumstances, ever start a game in anything other than his preferred position. Too many players have, for various reasons, and through no fault of their own, become ‘utility’ players, and most of them have, unfortunately, faded into oblivion.

  • Comment 35, posted at 23.09.11 10:09:30 by Greg Reply

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  • This is what I have been saying the whole time, but every time I say it I was ridiculed and shot down. Let’s face it Lambie is a great FH and will become one of SA finest, but he is not a International FB. Even is Super rugby against the Bulls and Crusaders he was out of position and Steyn and Carter knew that. Like I said great FH no FB

  • Comment 36, posted at 23.09.11 10:09:45 by Mutley Reply
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  • @McLovin (Comment 34) : In the first half :lol:

  • Comment 37, posted at 23.09.11 10:11:09 by Greg Reply

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  • SuperPat is the main man :mrgreen:

  • Comment 38, posted at 23.09.11 10:13:03 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 38) : If he stays at 10, he could well become the main man!

  • Comment 39, posted at 23.09.11 10:23:57 by Greg Reply

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  • I agree with Rob, Lambie is a better 10 than 15, but our situation at the sharks simply doesn`t allow it.

    I`m afraid if we for some bizarre reason fail to sign Frans Steyn, Lambie might be our 12 next year.
    Of course if this does happen few people would notice since the sharks will lose a lot of supporters if our recruitment department drop the ball with Steyn.

  • Comment 40, posted at 23.09.11 10:25:04 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • I think we need some more exciting pacy fullbacks in SA rugby. Guys who can match the likes of Dagg, Jane, Beale and Hynes etc as weapons on attack.

    It feels like we are settling for conservative safe as houses goalkeeper type no.15s. Ludik, Daniller, Visser – not exactly linebreakers.

    Jantjies was good in his day, now he’s like one of those lipizzaners with the high kicks and a bit of a shuffle but ultimately going nowhere quickly.

    The adventurous Taute is a breathe of fresh air. And if Steyl gets onto the park for Province, he will be in the same category -offensive weapons

    I would really like to see Lambie play no.10 period.

  • Comment 41, posted at 23.09.11 10:29:29 by beet Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 32) : Agree with you on him being tentative. I did not see yesterdays game but saw a few minutes of highlights and it was something that stuck out for me. Maybe it was that tackle from the Fijian but I dont ever remember seeing him like that before.

  • Comment 42, posted at 23.09.11 10:39:12 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I cant see Lambie lifting Michalak from the number 10 spot.

  • Comment 43, posted at 23.09.11 10:40:51 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 40) :
    Chances are good that those fleeing “supporters” would be the same ones that saw fit to boo the self same Steyn at Kings Park. As far as Im concerned they are more than welcome to take a hike.

  • Comment 44, posted at 23.09.11 10:43:29 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I want to see Lambie at Flyhalf. Also not a Fullback in my view but I wouldn’t mind seeing him play 12 for the Sharks while Michalak is there.

  • Comment 45, posted at 23.09.11 10:45:56 by Ben Reply
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  • Agree with you Rob. But looking at the boks at the moment, Lambie is a very safe player at 15. Our last line of defence is hardly considered a liability at this stage and oppoistions will look elsewhere for opportunities.

  • Comment 46, posted at 23.09.11 11:22:31 by Viking Reply
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  • @Viking (Comment 46) : I think Aplon might be more ‘adventurous”there, but hey – I am happy with the safe option!

  • Comment 47, posted at 23.09.11 11:27:33 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 39) : at the Sharks Lambie is a better 10 than 15, when Plum moved him from 15 he said as much, the Sharks lacked a ball player who was a threat to defences in the 1st channel and lambie provided that with aplomb in the currie cup where we can’t say defences are the BEST. in super rugby SuperPat was adequate without being SPECTACULAR.

    with michalak in the mix, plum moved Pat to 12 – 2nd five-eighth to to increase his ball threats in the backline and it worked a charm as he turned creator for mvovo against the bulls (if i recall correctly)

  • Comment 48, posted at 23.09.11 11:57:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 48) : but only at the Sharks… :razz:

  • Comment 49, posted at 23.09.11 12:22:14 by Megatron Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 41) : Jurgen Visser was converted to full back.

    I would seriously give Ulrich Beyers a shot in the senior side i mean he can break the line and he has an educated boot he can also skop for posts.

    Little blommetjies is another who is talented.

    I believe Heinrich steyl is rated as the next big thing after sadie.

  • Comment 50, posted at 23.09.11 13:20:16 by Muzi Reply

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  • Pat’s best position is fh no doubt about it. Sharks just have to move Freddie to another position. Saffa players come first always.

    Anyhow I thought he was solid yesterday at fb. We have to remember this was only his 2nd game with the top Boks. On the away tour of the 3N we went with our C team and he also played fh there. So really he has only had two games at fb with the our Boks. He will get better. Every player needs sometime to gel in a position. So I for one really hope they keep him there and not now bring in another player. That alone will destroy confidence in the youngster. Not ideal at this stage. Momentum is what we want with players now.

    Pat is very safe under the high ball. His defence is very good as well. For now I would not worry at all. He will get better and we will need him to play fb for this wc tourney. He is our 2nd best fb on tour. Fransie is our best, but heck he just has to play inside centre. He has been absolutely brilliant there. Had said when the Sharks just let him go we would miss a super talented player. What I would do to have Fransie back at Sharks playing inside centre with Pat at fh.

    Anyhow back to the subject. Just leave Pat at fb with the Boks he had a solid game he will get far better. Just have to look at Morne at fh. I am not a Morne fan, but heck we have to give him credit. He is playing very well. Sure misses some tackles but he has improved huge. I think cause Fransie is playing inside centre with Lambie at the back.

  • Comment 51, posted at 23.09.11 13:41:03 by Puma Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 45) : No Ben, that is just messing about with the youngster. Lambie has to play fh for the Sharks. No ifs or buts. Plum has to find another position for Freddie. Lambie is far more consistent at fh than Freddie is anyhow. WE must back our own and always. Foreign players must accept that.

    Wish we could bring back Frans Steyn for inside centre. What a massive loss for Sharks letting him go. Said it when he left we would miss him. We sure have. He is world class Frans Steyn. Doubt he will come back to the Sharks though. Been many times to the tank and hearing our very own supporters booing him was just damn terrible. Always felt for him. He was my favourite Shark player at the time too with Butch. Anyhow read he wants to come back to SA next year after his contract comes to a end for Metro in June. Hope he considers the Sharks and not another franchise. Though doubt he will come back to Sharks cause of the treatment the supporters gave him.

  • Comment 52, posted at 23.09.11 13:50:00 by Puma Reply

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  • I am of the Opinion most did not read pats play to well in the last match,

    a game revolves around flow of play, its not about the individual

    I firstly saw Pat do everything re the basics perfectly that he had to, and as an attacker? he is in perfect running lines all the time and passes , does not hog the ball, quite a few tries were scored with him making a fast pass?

    2ndly if some of you didnt see it?? go watch again and see how many breakdowns Lambies was attending to assist as a support player, and please before shouting me down , GO WATCH AGAIN

    I HAVE , and I am not saying he is the perfect fullback , or that its his best position? i am saying he played better then some assumed, and again proves to me a TEAM MAN

  • Comment 53, posted at 23.09.11 14:08:11 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • Also its always difficult in a match where players are playing for glory for everyone to shine, someone has to do the dirty work, maybe Pat should also just hold on to the ball more ?? go for glory??

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  • @Puma (Comment 52) : @Puma (Comment 51) : 100%

  • Comment 55, posted at 23.09.11 14:11:55 by sharks_lover Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 52) : Just on the alleged booing of Frans Steyn. I have rarely missed a home game in some years now. In fact I don’t think I’ve missed a single home game during the time that Steyntjie was playing.

    Just to clear it up, the booing was not for the player, but rather for the action and if I can remember correctly it was one particular action at that stage. The drop kick. He did it more than 5 times a game for a while. I think maybe the crowd got annoyed. They didn’t actually boo him until they realised he was lining up for another drop.

    That’s how I saw it anyway. It would be hard to actually know what the real story was. I just know I always liked him and would gladly welcome him back.

  • Comment 56, posted at 23.09.11 14:18:47 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 56) : Steyn would be most welcome!

    I heard some rumours about the Cheetahs though… :sad:

  • Comment 57, posted at 23.09.11 14:27:54 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 52) : Its not about messing Lambie around. Its about letting Lambie learn from Michalak..

  • Comment 58, posted at 23.09.11 15:20:48 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 57) : The Cheetahs can’t afford him! :twisted:

  • Comment 59, posted at 23.09.11 15:22:07 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 58) : Lambie don’t have to learn from Freddie Ben. Lambie was playing superb at fh before Freddie arrived mate.

    Back our own first and always. Otherwise we send a message to the next Bok coach that we at the Sharks don’t rate him either. He has to be our number one fh at the Sharks and not the foreign player. Just don’t mess about with Lambie otherwise we will lose another great player.

  • Comment 60, posted at 23.09.11 15:30:52 by Puma Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 53) : Yes have to agree with you. I watched that game again and it looked to me everyone was going for glory themselves. Not very much a team yesterday. So can’t take too much from that game.

    Also that forward pass from Pat to Habs we can never blame Lambie for that. Habs should have dropped back there and he just may have got another try. That pass from Hougaard to Lambie too was not great it bounced on his head.

    I personally thought Lambie was solid at fb done all the basics right. Agree Pat attended many breakdowns to assist there. Also never ever hogs the ball, not a selfish player at all. Also when he went to ground with the ball he gets it out fast. Still great on defence and under the high ball. Had good solid game. PdV has to play him at fb again this week. We mess about with positions now we not gonna beat Australia. Keep the momentum going.

    Seemed to me many players were going for glory like you said.

    Also was a bit disappointed with Hougaard at sh. BUT he is outstanding at wing really superb there and probably should be starting ahead of Habs. Just worried now if FdP picks up a injury cause Ruan sure never looked good at sh last week either. Then with Hougaard to be fair he has not played there in a long, long time.

  • Comment 61, posted at 23.09.11 15:42:13 by Puma Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 56) : Yes it was mostly when Fransie was going for those drops. The booing always seemed to be coming from the East Stand. Also heard booing to Rory as well. Not good to hear ones own supporters booing their players. Not right at all.

    Read that Fransie said at Metro when he went for the dropped kicks whether he got them over or not the crowd applauded him. That is the way supporters should be.

    Anyhow we lost Fransie and doubt he will come back to the Sharks. That is a great pity. A player I always rated highly.

  • Comment 62, posted at 23.09.11 15:49:16 by Puma Reply

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  • Regardless of what was being booed the individual (Steyn) would feel that its directed at him and Im sure that would be burried in the memory banks.

  • Comment 63, posted at 23.09.11 15:53:59 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Puma (Comment 60) : Yes he was, but still Lambie can learn a lot from Fred.

    Also i’d rather have Lambie playing at 12 than Bosman. Where do you suggest moving Michalak to then?

  • Comment 64, posted at 23.09.11 16:12:42 by Ben Reply
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