Shaz

Patrick who?


Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Original Content, RWC 2011, Sharks, Springboks, Super Rugby on 27 Sep 2011 at 18:20
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Yes. It’s been a while. For many reasons. Most of them concerning the “new” job and eyes now permanently resembling odd-shaped balls. But in that time, fellow Sharksworlders, I have learnt more about the beautiful game we love so much and the people who take to the fields of glory in its honour than I have either time or space to mention.

Consider the respite from my often over-flowery prose a sabbatical then. A learning curve for dear old Shaz which continues to astound and impress her and anyone who is drawn into rugby-type conversations with her… (I actually know a few rules now! Wonders will never cease!)

So, here I am then. And eish, have you okes and okettes been busy little bees. What with Bokworld and all… Since last we “spoke” much has changed… The Lions have found out how to win games, for example. :lol: Other things have not changed much – the Sharks still have their days when the wheels not just fall off the proverbial wagon but when they positively fly off in different directions. So much so last Saturday that Plum graced the field with a fearsome scowl on his normally neutral face!

Another thing which has not changed is my oh-so derided and much guffawed-at constant defence of one Master Patrick Lambie. Remember him? He used to be our flyhalf? You know, the one who put 25 points on the board against WP last Currie Cup final time? Before everyone sold out to Fred the, um, French person…? :mrgreen:

Yup. I’m still flying SuperPat’s colours. They’re permanently nailed to my beating heart!

So. It was with incredulity that I read our dear leader’s recent comments on said Patrick’s abilities at fullback for the Boks. And re-read them. Not once, not twice, but three times. And all of the comments that accompanied them.

To be honest, there are some sentiments of Rob’s that I share… but probably in larger spoonfulls (because I’m a gal who thinks that if you’re going to be a bear, then be a grizzly!) I don’t particularly like Pat playing at fullback. Not because he’s not good enough (he patently is, ergo PDiv’s decision to play him there… players, after all, don’t pick themselves) but because he’s SO much better at flyhalf.

He’s never going to be an Israel Dagg, simply because there is no Dan Carter to help him get there. Morne Steyn remains a dull and at best utilitarian flyhalf who can kick well, and very little else. At fullback Pat doesn’t get sufficient ball to truly shine. With a different flyhalf perhaps he would, and I use the example of Michalak during the Bulls/Sharks SupeRugby crunch match at Loftus to illustrate this point… Pat won man of the match on that occasion, as fullback, thanks largely to Fred’s support and a midfield/backline which fully understood his value.

Yes, I know he played much of that particular game “out of position” covering the flyhalf channel as well as the last line of defence, but it was a plan that worked. With the Boks set-up as it is, it won’t ever work, and that’s why he’s not going to be truly shining in the Green and Gold No 15 anytime soon. But that doesn’t make him a crappy fullback. Probably just not an outstanding one at the moment.

Where I truly agree with Rob and where I am probably going to be preaching to the converted (or am I? Judging from some of the posts after Rob’s article perhaps I am not!) is that Pat is a superlative flyhalf. It’s where he really belongs, where his best games have been played and where he will, I believe, truly make his mark on world rugby.

He may not be the biggest oke on the field, or the beefiest, but what he lacks in physical stature he more than makes up for in both heart, spirit and brain. Add to that the most amazing temperament I have ever come across in a young man, a work ethic that puts everyone else to shame, leadership abilities which will only grow as he matures and a natural humility which puts the greater good of the team before anything else and you have, in one marvelously packaged individual, something akin to the saviour of South African rugby.

Am I overplaying it a bit? Maybe. But rather pump up the volume where Pat is concerned than do what some have done and completely forget the already considerable contribution he has made.

Ladies and gentlefolk out there in Sharksworld-land. Forget Jantjies. Forget Goosen (who?) and in the next year or so forget Morne Steyn. Get over the whole Frans Steyn thang (asseblief) and remember the young man who put the Sharks back in the pound seats and gave the Black and White another dimension while wearing the No 10 jersey.

He’ll be home in a few short weeks, come what may, having conducted himself with superlative professionalism and dedication. And a few short weeks after that he’ll be back at King’s Park wearing Black and White once more, preparing for next year’s SupeRugby. His coaches haven’t forgotten him. They know what he’s made of. I sure as hell know what he’s made of, and so should you.

So. To pick up where Rob left off, I leave you with this:
Patrick Lambie: not a fullback, not a flyhalf, just a genius.

Love and kisses.

Shaz :cool:



70 Comments

  • welcome back, babe!

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.09.11 18:35:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 1) : Thanks darlin. Been a while! :oops:

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.09.11 18:36:21 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 2) : I’ll be honest, honey-bunch… I was concerned you’d forgotten yer roots :)

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.09.11 18:39:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • Never. I may go awol from time to time, but roots is roots!

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.09.11 18:46:00 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • Goosen who :mrgreen: thats who we should all be saying right now sharon forget lambie have you watched johan goosen from grey college. :shock:

    Now thats a star in the making he has speed….a big boot…he can step….and most importantly BMT these kids grow up reading..eating..and dreaming about rugby at grey :mrgreen: what more do you want sure he still has to prove himself in the super 15 comp.

    But do not be surprised if goosen wears the green and gold jersey next year if he can keep his feet grounded we may have a legend in the making. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.09.11 19:43:03 by Muzi Reply

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  • ;-) :mrgreen: This is not a bulls thread you can pinch me if you want to i am asking for it after all:mrgreen: BUT my bulletjies look like they will rattle a few feathers in the currie cup we are slowly picking up momentum.

    Watch out Pine Pienaar looks happy again the players can tweet again because they are playing good rugby now. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.09.11 19:47:30 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 5) : BMT? a bit early to say he has the same BMT as Lambie does… Currie Cup, watered down, etc… wasn’t exactly on fire against Province last week either.

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.09.11 20:22:06 by robdylan Reply
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  • well written article indeed. i am fully behind you on this one.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.09.11 20:59:50 by Gerhardt Reply

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  • Lambi for President!!!!

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.09.11 22:03:09 by Franshark Reply
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  • Good to see you back Sharon.

    Once again a good article.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.09.11 23:47:11 by Puma Reply

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  • Okay just a small detail to correct.

    They are Laws not Rules. :wink:

  • Comment 11, posted at 28.09.11 07:13:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 5) : 2 or 3 good games and he’s a Bok? :puke:

    He’s behind, Steyn, James, Lambie, Jantjies.

    Don’t call for anyone to be a Bok based on performances during this CC. It is a massively watered down comp this year.

  • Comment 12, posted at 28.09.11 07:21:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Just so we are clear on something and to borrow from Shaz for a sec.

    Our wheels came off, this Goosen kids didn’t TAKE our wheels off, he just happened to be playing in the opposing team against which our wheels came off.

  • Comment 13, posted at 28.09.11 07:27:39 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : He at least took ONE wheel off. I remember Keegan say in his speech after the game something to the effect that their 10 broke our line…hope I got that part right :shock:

    which he did without showing any respect to the older, more established names.

    You are right however, it is a long day till we can start handing out the Bok jersey, BUT, the talent are there. Also the self assurance of youth, if he does not choke on it…..

  • Comment 14, posted at 28.09.11 07:37:25 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 11) : will admit I was waiting for that :)

  • Comment 15, posted at 28.09.11 07:39:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Although i share a lot of your sentiments, Shaz, one thing I do not agree with is: one man does not make a team. No matter who and what he is. So the Fransie Steyn comment to me is out of line so to speak. Imagine a combination of Lambie and Steyn (as he is playing presently on 12)?? Would Lambie (or the team for that matter) be as affective without a player like him? Dont write off other players just because of one. Rather open the box and think of the possibilities and combinations all of these good players can make with the Superpat…

    And as for Lambs playing FB now in the RWC – why does he need to “shine” if he is doing a decent job? A lot of the most valuable players are not shiners – they do the hard graft where and wehn its needed without having to be flash!

    Oh – and sorry – I know you gonna fall on your back reading this! :wink: – but Morne Steyn has stepped up his game a hell of a lot – he’s defnitelty not playing 1D anymore. So yes, he’s kicking is good, but as for the ‘nothing else”part – I cannot agree!

    Good to have you back! ;-)

  • Comment 16, posted at 28.09.11 08:12:34 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • I can’t wait for Lambie to come back, the Sharks really miss him. If there is one thing great about him being away, it’s that Plum now can see what he adds to our backline.

    I know we’re missing a few other players too, but all the other key players are forwards.

    And I would have loved to see Pat at flyhalf for the Boks, but I almost feel like that’s where they need him most (for now), especially since it seems Frans Steyn will take over the 12 spot and I don’t feel there’s a better 15 than Lambie after that. Gio is exciting, but who would you rather pick there? He will be save and solid and give players around him opportunities. He may not shine like he could at flyhalf, but with Lambie and Steyntjie at 12 and 15, we’ve looked so much better and that too me should be Pat’s shining moment. His contribution to the team has been, even out of position, has been big. I think that’s enough for now.

    After the world cup I would hope he will be given some decent opportunity to prove himself as a bok flyhalf as well.

  • Comment 17, posted at 28.09.11 08:29:30 by Letgo Reply
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  • I do not share this Patrick shines thing, he hardly ever shines, apart from those spectacular tries :grin: , he has a presence, he makes players around him shine.

    One of the notable female species mentioned that no one player makes a team, that is true, but old Pat surely breathed life in a dead Sharks back line just by being there, as he is now breathing life into a dead Bok back line………all while not shining a bit.

  • Comment 18, posted at 28.09.11 08:39:57 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 16) : Hey Ice, I just read your comment after I posted mine. Can you believe how in sink we are? We used to disagree way more. Maybe it’s because we met, something must have clicked. :smile:

    And I even agree with you about Morne. He certainly does look better than he has in quite a while and I think his continued inclusion (after a couple of real solid games), is justified. Now that he has Steyntjie and Lambie to pass to, he doesn’t need to do more than he is capable of. I think the pressure that has now been relieved by their contribution to the backline might very well have given him the confidence and freedom to relax, play his natural game and it seems even attempt (and succeed) with a few breaks of his own.

    I’m happy with the team. I just hope the coaches keep selecting the same team. They must be tempted to bring back Jean. I wouldn’t, he will make a contribution from the bench and the value of a player like that waiting on the bench could be very influential.

    I’m really looking forward to our probable quarters with the Aussies. I almost feel like we’re going into that game as favourites. If we could keep our defence up, nullify their attack and biggest weapon and just play a solid game, I feel we should win that game.

  • Comment 19, posted at 28.09.11 08:40:19 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 18) : LIKE

  • Comment 20, posted at 28.09.11 08:46:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 14) : I agree, he has some talent and I can see the potential, but I’m a wait and see type of person. Its not too long before the S15. If he can impress there, for an entire season then SA is in a really good position regarding flyhalfs in this country. What an odd position to be in. And a nice one! :smile:

  • Comment 21, posted at 28.09.11 08:47:41 by Letgo Reply
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  • I fully agree on not hyping up Goosen but I also know that if he was a Shark we would be writing reams about him.

  • Comment 22, posted at 28.09.11 08:50:40 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 22) : That is true.

  • Comment 23, posted at 28.09.11 08:52:38 by Ben Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 19) : I’m also happy with the team….bar 1 or maybe 2 players(Spies and Habana)

    It’s going to be a tough 4 weeks ahead but I’m feeling more and more assured that we can win the WC.

  • Comment 24, posted at 28.09.11 08:58:42 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 18) : Dont mis-read my comment about one player does not make a team. Pat surely has breathed some sort of life and fire into the Sharks – I just think it could even be more and better if you get his magic to combine with another talent magic to create double magic! I was on about not writing other players that in combo with Pat, could add even more value to a team than just one player.

    @Letgo (Comment 19) : :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 25, posted at 28.09.11 09:13:41 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • Lambie would be an even better player if he was at the Lions!! FACT!! :twisted: :???:

  • Comment 26, posted at 28.09.11 09:47:19 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : Aww come one Wes, that’s not fair, he would have been a better player at any province other than the Sharks! He certainly would have been a better player if he grew up in NZ, or any other Rugby playing country in the world as well. Think about the hurdles this poor kid has had to overcome, growing up in SA, the worst place in the world for rugby development, and on top of that, in Durban, the rugby black hole of South Africa. :wink:

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.09.11 10:02:00 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 26) : WPW is bored. FACT!! :razz:

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.09.11 10:09:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 27) :

    :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.09.11 10:09:20 by wpw Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) :

    You’re 100% correct. ;-)

    I’m bored of all the articles about SuperPat. Enough already!! :shock: :roll:

  • Comment 30, posted at 28.09.11 10:10:39 by wpw Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 24) : @Pokkel (Comment 24) : I think Spies has been showing some potential of returning to form. I wouldn’t mid seeing alberts starting, but I think he’s covering lock now.

    Habana, I’ve decided to stop waisting my breath. They’re going to select him regardless. I think Hougaard should get the no. 11 jersey.

  • Comment 31, posted at 28.09.11 10:16:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 30) : I think we should continue with SuperPat, atleast until you’re annoyed as well as bored with it! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 32, posted at 28.09.11 10:22:29 by Letgo Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 28) : @wpw (Comment 30) : @Letgo (Comment 32) : WPW…IS JY ALWEE HONGER ???

  • Comment 33, posted at 28.09.11 11:01:42 by Charlie Reply

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  • @Charlie (Comment 33) : Altyd!!! :razz:

  • Comment 34, posted at 28.09.11 11:12:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 35, posted at 28.09.11 11:20:44 by Charlie Reply

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  • patrick lambie is “genius”, yes, the same genius that missed his first international kick right IN FRONT of posts!
    the same genius whose kicking was so haywire his coach decided that um, the french guy must take over the kicking duties and KICK the sharks to VICTORY against the bulls.

    what a “genius” :roll:

  • Comment 36, posted at 28.09.11 12:30:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : You are clutching at straws now.

  • Comment 37, posted at 28.09.11 12:47:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 36) : Dial down the bile, daddy-o! A poor kicking display does not preclude genius, just as being a good kicker does not automatically imbue genius status. Since his Achilles heel op, Dan Carter’s kicking percentages have dropped, but no one has downgraded him from genius to reasonable clever.

    And no, I’m not comparing Lambie to Carter, though I am a big fan. DC towers over all contenders. Except of course for Henry Honiball.

  • Comment 38, posted at 28.09.11 13:01:23 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 37) : @Culling Song (Comment 38) : i currie cup season and 1 super rugby season and the boy is a GENUIS already? :mrgreen: :lol:

    fark, he’ll be a deity by the time he is stefan’s age :cool: :roll:

  • Comment 39, posted at 28.09.11 13:09:31 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : Wasnt Stef a genius last year, or was that Andries Strauss?

  • Comment 40, posted at 28.09.11 13:15:34 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : Did I say Lambie is a genius?

  • Comment 41, posted at 28.09.11 13:29:18 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : I’m not saying he us a genius (Henry Honiball is), just that arguing to the contrary based on a few wayward kicking performances seems a trifle redundant.

    For the record, I like Lambie a lot and think he has huge potential, but will reserve the genius tag for a while longer.

  • Comment 42, posted at 28.09.11 13:53:38 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 42) : great… :grin:

  • Comment 43, posted at 28.09.11 14:24:02 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 43) : You just dont like the sharks and will be negative about them ,your not such a good oke

    Goosen looks like a great prospect ,as does sadie as do a handfull of other young players ;whos to say they will cut it at test level, well lambie has played decently already. Lets not forget that lambie has a mvp in cc final .

    I like the way some one said it earlier ;Lambie has the ability to make those players around him shine

  • Comment 44, posted at 28.09.11 14:33:53 by Talent Reply
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  • Talent
    I’m not saying Lambie won’t cut it at test level but I recall a certain Derrick Hougaard who was just as talented at the age of 19 he won his first CC and played a starring role and yet he didn’t cut it at test level.

  • Comment 45, posted at 28.09.11 14:40:57 by wpw Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 44) : bwahahahahaha now that you got that off you chest… :lol:

    surely even if you were watching the game from a fortnight ago with your “black & white” guppy glasses you would’ve SEEN that Goosen was making the players around him SHINE too tl tl tl.

    this is not about lambie not being good, this is about some Sharks ahem SuperPat cheerleaders being churlish/getting their panties in a bunch, when any other young flyhalf gets a mention.

    Praise for Goosen/Jantjies/Ebersohn/vanAswegen is NOT derision for the “genius” that is Lambie ;)

  • Comment 46, posted at 28.09.11 15:33:40 by Megatron Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 45) : not all Sharks fans are Lambie befok, it’s a few that take affront anytime their 3DPat is not lauded.

  • Comment 47, posted at 28.09.11 15:35:43 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 46) : Add Freedy the …Frenchman to that list.

  • Comment 48, posted at 28.09.11 15:41:21 by Salmonoid Reply
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    If Lambie makes other players shine, then why has Bosman been so uber crap since the sharks signed him?

  • Comment 49, posted at 28.09.11 15:51:06 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 48) : Well one could, but I think his point is more about up and coming local flyhalves, rather than anybody playing the position in SA, Other wise you could add Morne Steyn, Butch James to name but two more.

  • Comment 50, posted at 28.09.11 15:52:31 by Greg Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 49) : Hey Bosman has been doing the deed lately.
    Why has Habs been so ubber crap since the Stormers//WP signed him?

  • Comment 51, posted at 28.09.11 15:53:26 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 51) : 2 reasons… Sherylle Calder and crap ball for the backline (thanks forwards and Ricky)

  • Comment 52, posted at 28.09.11 15:55:49 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 52) : actually he was pretty good in 2010, this year our backline was sucky, no cohesion whatsoever.

  • Comment 53, posted at 28.09.11 15:56:43 by molly Reply
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  • @Greg (Comment 50) : Nah I think Freddy is appropriate here, we got a whole thread dedicated to the poor guy and him imposing himself in Pats position.

  • Comment 54, posted at 28.09.11 15:59:31 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 53) : I thought he was starting to improve towards the end of the Super season, but he has never been in the same form as at the Bulls, and that is frustrating.

  • Comment 55, posted at 28.09.11 16:01:38 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 55) : yup, he signed up with Sherylle again this year. I hope he finds his form again, I think he did peak with the Bulls, sadly.

  • Comment 56, posted at 28.09.11 16:03:43 by molly Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 49) : Lambie cant help bosmans poor defence ,his attack on the other hand.

    @Megatron (Comment 46) : Agree somewhat

  • Comment 57, posted at 28.09.11 16:27:59 by Talent Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 56) : May he return to the Habana that was then, just not against the Sharks.

  • Comment 58, posted at 28.09.11 16:32:46 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 51) : Habana was KAK in 2008 while still playing for Bulls, so nje that one falls flat. :|

  • Comment 59, posted at 28.09.11 16:46:54 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 59) : Sorry, I dont remember him being crap at the Bulls.

  • Comment 60, posted at 28.09.11 16:57:20 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 56) : i don’t buy into this often perpetuated myth that Sheryl Calder is the miracle solution to all of habana’s form problems. when habana was rubbish in 2008 (at the bulls) he went to sheryl calder onhis own and apparently he was better in 2009 but that’s debatable, in 2010/11 again he is nowhere and you’re telling me the solution STILL is to go to sheryl calder? bwahahahaha :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 28.09.11 17:01:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 59) : Habana was still at the Bulls in 2009, was second on the try scoring list with 8 in the Super 14. Not too shabby.

  • Comment 62, posted at 28.09.11 17:05:01 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 60) : let me jog ur memory…

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    2009-03-29 21:43
    Johannesburg – Springbok winger
    Bryan Habana is ready to regain
    the mojo that made him a
    superstar.
    Habana rejoined the Bulls on
    Saturday morning in Dunedin after
    missing the first two weeks of the
    tour due to an injury and will be
    considered for Friday’s game
    against the Crusaders in
    Christchurch.
    Afrikaans Sunday newspaper
    Sondag reported that Habana had
    spent part of the last two weeks
    with Professor Tim Noakes and
    visual skills specialist Dr Sheryl
    Calder, who played a major part in
    the Springboks 2007 World Cup
    triumph.
    Calder, in particular, helped
    Habana at his own request to try
    and get his timing right and
    sharpen his skills.
    “I am convinced that he will be the
    old Habana pretty soon,” Calder
    told Sondag.
    Calder started her work with
    Habana before the current season
    where she could see a difference
    in his skills.
    “I could see his skills had gone
    backwards,” Calder said, “He
    showed an improvement before
    the Lions Super 14 game and it
    was really a pity that he was
    injured when he was.”
    Calder added that Habana’s timing
    on defence and his kicking out of
    hand were two aspects that he
    could still better in his all-round
    game.
    “There have been improvements
    but it will take time before he is
    back at his best. The secret is to
    practice to keep your skills at the
    same level.”
    Calder added that the exercises in
    which she has coached Habana will
    also help him with his decisions on
    the field.
    “He has said in the past that I had
    made his hands as quick as his
    feet and I hope he gets to that
    point again.”

  • Comment 63, posted at 28.09.11 17:05:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 62) : you know i said 2008!! :roll:

    why did he need calder at the beginning of 2009 if he was soo hot the year before? both habana and jpp were OFF form in 2008 but people seem to remember on JP’s drop because habana was mollycoddled by peter de villiers and NEVER dropped!

  • Comment 64, posted at 28.09.11 17:11:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 64) : I now you said 2008, I tought you were implying that he went WP in 2009 and contiued with his slump. His return to form in 2009 does give credence to Molly’s observation about Calder though.

  • Comment 65, posted at 28.09.11 17:21:58 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 65) : the point is habana didn’t “lose form since he got to wp” he was erratic ALREADY! and if he stopped consulting calder in 2010 & 11 then maybe THAT is the source of his problems and not the fact that he moved to WP as you seemed to suggest in your earlier post.

  • Comment 66, posted at 28.09.11 17:31:16 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 66) : Fact is he came off a good 2009, and has never shone at WP.

  • Comment 67, posted at 28.09.11 17:41:17 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Gosh. It’s SO refreshing to see that not one of you has lost either your form, pith or razor-sharp wit in my absence. And you still can’t see the tongue which is planted firmly in my cheek! :lol:
    I thought I’d do the unexpected by producing the expected. Seems I was mistook!
    @Ice Ice Bokkie (Comment 16) : Ice, ice, baby – the comment about Fransie was aimed at those who still yearn for him to return to the Sharks and harp on about his days at the Tank, not at his ability, or otherwise, as a player. The past is done. The future is not yet written so the present is all we have… And Frans Steyn is not a Shark in the present. So I think everyone needs to get over that fact and focus on what we do have, not on what we had.
    And as for shining, or not shining, it’s a turn of phrase, not an indication of how polished a performance is being delivered by our incumbent fullback!
    @Muzi (Comment 5) : I’ll say it again… Forget Goosen, for now at least. Rudi Vogt did exactly the same thing in the Griquas game, and he’ll not be wearing the Green and Gold anytime soon either.
    Yes, yes and yes (harumph) I do know, even in my naivety, that one player does not a team make, and that there’s no I in team. But one player can change the course of a game, and that is something that Pat has done on several occasions, with no small amount of aplomb.
    And finally, I’m going to throw this at you all… If Morne Steyn couldn’t kick consistently and his boot went on permanent leave, not ONE OF YOU would stand up for him. Why? Because without his kicking he is just another talented, but overall rather average flyhalf. That’s my opinion. Like it or loathe it. History will prove me right or wrong. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 68, posted at 28.09.11 18:57:11 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 68) : Shazzie! As you said – the present is all we have now, and the past is the past. Right now M Steyn is playing good rugby and not just kicking! May it be that he has F Steyn to help out and Lambie in the mix – he s defnitely not just average right now. Who knows in the future I will fall back onto my Steun is 1D rant! :mrgreen:

    With the F Steyn issue – I am actually wishing he would be back for the Sharks soon – current form and improvement permitting! ;-) (On 12- deffo not on 10 or 15) – That’s Lambo’s spot! ;-)

  • Comment 69, posted at 28.09.11 19:24:09 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 68) : Oh – and we needed your tongue in cheek arti – got a good thing going!

  • Comment 70, posted at 28.09.11 19:26:13 by Ice Ice Bokkie Reply
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