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Habana: ZAR > Yen


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Posted in :Original Content, Stormers, WP on 17 Oct 2011 at 10:10
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In a somewhat surprising move Western Province have announced the extension of Bryan Habana’s contract, and its not a one year extension, its a THREE year one. After the rumour mill started doing the rounds that he was in talks with Japanese Clubs, Habana took to twitter to rubbish the rumours saying “Amazing how some journalists can write the biggest load of nonsense to create sensationalism & then never apologise or correct their wrongs!” and following that with “Heard yesterday that I am in talks with some Japanese clubs??!?? That’s the 1st I’ve heard of it!!”.

This move will fuel the fire about how WP had to let the very promising talents of Johann Sadie and JJ Engelbrecht go so that they could afford to keep Habana, but the self same press release stated how Habana has taken a pay cut on his original contract with WP so it seems he is putting his love for South Africa before chasing the buck. I still wish WP had made a plan to keep Sadie, while Engelbrecht has really stepped up his game the last few weeks showing WP just what they’ll be missing.

WP are still awaiting the news of whether Jaque Fourie will be staying another year, in what will be a big blow to the Stormers depth in the centres with Sadie already leaving and the rumoured Tim Whitehead departure.

The contract extension will kick in at the end of the Currie Cup where many of the returning Boks are hoping to find consolation by getting their hands on a different cup to what they had spent the last 4 years working towards.



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  • Interesting!

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.10.11 10:16:06 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Yuss excellent decision Bryan :mrgreen: . Don’t listen to silly journo’s. Still only 28, and with plenty left to offer.

    Very very very happy to hear this.

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.10.11 10:20:01 by hendrikp Reply

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  • this is an excellent move. As Hendrik says, Bryan is still only 28 and is one of the finest players this country has yet produced. Get him on a sensible salary and remove a bit of the superstar aura and we’ll see him back to his best in no time.

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.10.11 10:24:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 2) :

    We should have invested in JJ and Sadie and allowed Bryan to leave.

    I think his best years are sadly behind him. He no longer possesses the pace he once had and he hasn’t beaten his opponent on the outside in years!!

    I will continue to support him but I am not pleased about 3 more years!! :roll:

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.10.11 10:26:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : Like some of the Cape’s other products, cheese and wine, you are allowing him to mature before selling him to the Sharks… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.10.11 10:29:45 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Now that Habs has lost some pace he needs to learn to sidestep, that swerve is not working anymore.Hell the swerve didnt work against the Pumas.

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.10.11 10:32:35 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 5) : :lol: :twisted:

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.10.11 10:36:04 by wpw Reply
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  • Habs is never going to be the threat he was in the 2007 World Cup again. We should all accept that I think

    He still gets through plenty of work though, and is one of the few that can successfully play the rush defense. SW favorite Lwazi Mvovo, for example, had a shocker trying to play it (in Australasia).

    He still makes the best of the few opportunities that he gets. Funnily enough he scored around the same or more tries then many SA wingers in the Super 15 that were tipped to play ahead of him for the Springboks. That with the Stormers giving him sweet F all chance, so he created those opportunities for himself.

    3 years may be a bit long. I’d have preferred a 2-year contract… but Bryan is still class. WP, the Stormers and the Springboks can still use him.

    Sort out the inside backs, and watch Bryan hit a good patch of form.

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.10.11 10:38:19 by hendrikp Reply

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  • I really dont understand the massive criticism of some of the players that won the 2007 RWC! Yes Habana had a dip in form but so does everyone. Just because he was so much better than everyone at one stage we now think he is crap because he doesnt score a try everytime he touches the ball! I mean really! He performed very well in the 2011 RWC and is good for WP that he has stayed. Who do u think JJ Englebrecht and Danie Poolman amongst others are learning from.

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.10.11 11:12:26 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Bwhahahaha

    This sounds more like WP said. “Okay go overseas with your crazy ZAR 7mil a year price tag”

    And Habana and his daddy said “Okay we’ll accept your offer of a paycut, because everyone else is wise to me being over the hill”

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.10.11 11:18:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : Sounds about right

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.10.11 11:29:41 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 11) :

    I believe his wife owns her own business here in CT. Maybe, just maybe that could also be one of the factors in them staying put.

    Oh and then there’s also THE MOUNTAIN!! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.10.11 11:38:27 by wpw Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 5) : Sounds about right! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.10.11 11:39:53 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : And the nightlife :razz:

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.10.11 11:44:07 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 4) : I will continue to support him. Really? Doesn’t sound like it… maybe you need to spend some time with your dictionary Wes… :)

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.10.11 11:53:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : I think thats about it, especially as during the world cup he extended his contract for 1 YEAR only and now its suddenly 3 years. Methinks there just arent that many takers out there.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.10.11 12:08:18 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I suppose Habana has a bit of that David Beckhamness about him, meaning not all of value can be measured by what he does between the lines on a rugby field. A high profile well recognised face with a WRPotP title behind his name must help with the marketing.

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.10.11 12:09:00 by beet Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : Thats hardly a mountain. :twisted:

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.10.11 12:09:48 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • I’m guessing Bryan Hababa is Province’s answer to Odwa Ndungane – a slow wing who is defensively sound and won’t let the team down, but won’t set the world alight either… :twisted:

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.10.11 12:19:24 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 9) :

    Hit the nail on the head. Just because he’s not as good as he used to be, doesn’t make him a bad player.

    Saying Habana shouldn’t have been resigned is the equivalent of saying Federer should retire from tennis – Just because he’s not as dominant as he used to be, doesn’t mean he’s bad.

    @Culling Song (Comment 19) :

    Except Habs is a bit faster then Odwa, and better/more accurate as well.

    Watch the Stormers top the SA conference again next year if they can hold onto Jaque Fourie.

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.10.11 12:23:29 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 18) :

    Ja nee. Kom ‘n bietjie Natal toe dan wys ons julle hoe lyk ‘n berg nou eintlik! :grin:

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.10.11 12:24:51 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 15) :

    What I mean is that even though I am not pleased with the length of his contract or that two promising players could have stayed at his expense, I will continue to support him whenever he wears the blue and white hoops!!

    Happy now?? :roll: ;-)

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.10.11 12:39:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 20) : But Odwa can cover more positions…

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.10.11 12:44:28 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 17) : WRPotP : world rugby player of the PLANET :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.10.11 12:45:00 by beet Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 23) : Habana went from scrumhalf to centre to wing. I think he’d make a useful fullback…

    And then down the line maybe:

    A good benchwarmer

    Followed by drinks carrier

    then SS analyst

    and finally controversial frontpage news maker

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.10.11 12:48:57 by beet Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 21) : Presies.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.10.11 12:49:52 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 23) :

    Let’s not compare the two. Habana is in a different league to Odwa.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.10.11 12:52:59 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 19) :

    Bit of a difference in that Habana WAS ACTUALLY GOOD at one stage of his career.

    Odwa… Um… who is he now again?? :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.10.11 12:53:29 by wpw Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 18) : Thems fighting words.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.10.11 12:56:22 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 25) :

    Not what I’d want from a fullback – not accurate enough with the boot and rather then being good in the air, he’s pretty much glued to the ground (hard to bring down).

    He’d probably make a decent centre in an emergency, but he’s a genuine finisher. Problem is the teams he plays for aren’t creating opportunities, so what can he finish! :lol: They love him here in NZ, the kiwi and australian commentators can’t believe the criticism he puts up with.

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.10.11 12:56:31 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 28) : Is that the better one? The one who played for the Bulls?

    Or is that the one who dropped the ball on over the line against the Saders? :twisted:

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.10.11 13:07:55 by molly Reply
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  • @molly (Comment 31) :

    When Odwa looks like scoring a try against the Crusaders, we may start comparing them :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.10.11 13:13:18 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 29) : Anything I can crawl up in under 2 hours can hardly be called a mountain. :mrgreen: It is pretty though. :twisted:

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.10.11 13:15:30 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 33) : 2 hours?You were probably standing in the cue for the cable car boet.

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.10.11 13:20:22 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 30) : Ja, if I was an Aussie or Kiwi, I’d also love a finisher who scores once every 2 years or so. :mrgreen: And against the powerhouse Namibia.

    I’ll never stop being amazed by the selfishness in rugby. When a prolific tryscorer like Banana or Rocketman or Cullen gets on a bit, his teammates suddenly stop creating try scoring opportunities for him. This has repeated itself in rugby history too many times. I guess colleagues just get jealous of the success that the older, slower, often heavier veteran. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.10.11 13:21:14 by beet Reply
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  • Habana was undoubtedly great but I think is now on par with Odwa, in fact I feel safer with Odwa in the team than I would with Habs. :twisted:

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.10.11 13:25:56 by Salmonoid Reply
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  • Sad day for Robdylan…..his lovechild got engaged this weekend! :twisted:

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.10.11 13:35:22 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 20) : Bwhahahahaha That is sooooo funny.

    singing the praises of Habana and then saying the Stormers need Fourie to top the conference. :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.10.11 13:38:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) :

    Vital part of the team. :idea:

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.10.11 13:42:09 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 35) : :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.10.11 13:42:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 39) : I just love the way you say how good Habana is but need to qualify them maybe topping the conference by including another player.

    Are you singing Habana or Fourie’s praises?

    Please say Fourie.

    It is clear as daylight for anyone with non WP lenses that Habana only wants money.
    1) He Left the Lions for more money
    2) He used “offers” from other teams to get more money at the Bulls
    3) He left the Bulls for more money after HOW many years there?
    4) And now after how many years in CT he stays on at a reduced salary for loyalty?

    Plain and simple nobody wants him for his exorbatant asking price.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.10.11 13:48:22 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 35) :

    Weren’t you the one saying I’m too quick to throw a player into the rubbish pile? :grin:

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.10.11 13:48:23 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : good point. I still think he woulda earned more in Japan at the very least, I think they love their lifestyle here and their popularity. They cherish their Top Billing appearances.

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.10.11 14:29:52 by molly Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :

    A rugby players career is short – can you blame him for taking as much money as he can get? I’d do the same if I were him.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.10.11 14:37:54 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 42) : No I was saying you’re evaluations of players is too polarised in general. Too much either good or bad without enough middle ground.

    Then again we all tend to overemphasise the value of the individuals that make up a team and not focus enough attention on the team as a whole and the dynamics that make them successful as a team and not 15 parts.

    The Habana thing was just a bit of joking from my side.

    What I have said before is that when we look back at players who’ve reach their twilight years (not saying Habana is there yet) or retired, its always good to try and remember the guys for what they brought to the wonderful game when they were at the peak of their form. Habana didn’t get to 40 test tries just by chance. There was once a player that NZers and Aussies probably feared and even hated coz he was so good. Also if a star like BoD cud go thru a trough and look like he’d lost his rugby mojo, then bounce back to reclaim his former glory and in the process help his country achieve a feat that had alluded them for something like 62 years, there’s no reason BH raise to the top again. Shane Williams is a 34 year old wing and up to now, he’s being going like a Boeing.

    As they’d say here in SA: “ek laaik jou Hendrik P”. You bravely air your opinions and provide a lot of food for thought.

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.10.11 14:43:36 by beet Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 27) : I’ll admit Bryan is a better player than Odwa if you’ll drop this ridiculous “Schalk is the 2nd greatest Springbok ever” stance when we all know no.’s 1 and 2 are Henry Honiball :mrgreen:

    Joke aside, I actually agree that although Habana is not the player he once was, that does not necessarily have to relegate hom to the scrap heap. I’m bringing Odwa into the equation because although he has lost pace, he compensate by means of workrate and strategic appreciation to the extent that not too many Sharks fans would be unhappy to see him in the Sharks starting lineup. He may not have the gas to finish off tries anymore, but see how many times he’s involved, often making the scoring pass. I’m sure Bryan’s good enough to do make a similar adjustment.

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.10.11 15:08:49 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 44) : No issues with that but then don’t try and bullshit the public into thinking you are staying for loyalty when you are staying because you priced yourself out of the market.

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.10.11 15:21:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 37) : ? Eh ?

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.10.11 16:08:05 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 12) : Like all Capetonians, he’d be lost without it. :roll:

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.10.11 16:41:07 by klempie Reply

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  • @SharonvanWyk (Comment 48) : Brad barritt I presume

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.10.11 16:55:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 50) : Ah. I see. My mind was boggling! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.10.11 17:22:08 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :

    Seems Grant Ball agrees with me.

    Http://www.rugby365.com/opinion/phase2/2809884.htm

  • Comment 52, posted at 18.10.11 05:50:42 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Habana should forget there are something called ‘intercept’. His whole game goes wrong just there. JDV also fell into that trap, as did ‘Slaptjips’ etc.

    You get to be hero or zero that way.

  • Comment 53, posted at 18.10.11 06:29:45 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • i must say that a lot of habana,s tries my grandson could have scored.

  • Comment 54, posted at 18.10.11 08:10:30 by pete69 Reply

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  • @pete69 (Comment 54) : Potentially your grandson could be better than those other 1000+ Boks who couldn’t score 40 tries during their careers. :mrgreen: How’s his defence? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 55, posted at 18.10.11 08:18:50 by beet Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 52) : KSA, having Grant agree with you is not a good thing ;-)

  • Comment 56, posted at 18.10.11 09:07:42 by molly Reply
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  • Here’s my 2 cents, I am soopah cross that we let Sadie go, I think I wrote an arti about it quite a few months ago, when the rumours first started. I wasn’t too upset with JJ leaving as he hadn’t accomplished anything, but after the last few weeks I see what we’re going to be missing.

    I’m not sure how this all unfolded and how hard we tried to keep Sadie and JJ, but Sadie wanted game time, we couldn’t promise him this, these guys are still in only their first real season of rugby, ok, JJ had a mini-go last year, so how do we possibly justify paying them large sums of money when they’ve hardly had the chance to prove their worth?

    The fact is they have left, we’ve lost quite a few backline players this year, I am VERY happy we’ve managed to keep Habana now, maybe the management made more of a concerted effort to keep him after we lost so many other youngsters, but please tell me, if we hadn’t signed Habana who was going to be playing wing for us in SR rugby next year? We’d have Aplon, Poolman and Jantjes to spread around our back 3… thats it, the only experience to use around there. Then we need to look at playing JdV or JF out of position, not an ideal situation.

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