Richard Ferguson

Moses Mabhida v Kings Park


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 3 Nov 2011 at 14:00
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Driving through Durban, you have the most unusual sight of two world class stadiums being situated literally a stone throw away from each other, as Mr. Price Kings Park and The Moses Mabhida Stadium grace your view. The unfortunate reality though, is that these stadiums will not be able to continue next to each other, without some form of financial intervention.

Our dear friends over at eThekwini Municipality have on numerous occasions tried to lure the Sharks Rugby Union into making the move across to the new stadium, in an attempt to pool funds and somehow keep this beautiful stadium from becoming a dilapidated white elephant.

This has been met with a fair bit of resistance, as it would significantly increase the rugby union’s financial burden, as they currently have a fifty year lease with the Municipality that is not costing them anywhere near the money that they will pay at Moses Mabhida. To give you an idea, the fee to host a single soccer match at Moses Mabhida is R1,5 million, and that hardly covers the costs of operating the stadium for such an event.

The Moses Mabhida stadium has been the most successfully run stadium post Soccer World Cup, hosting the most events in the nearly 18 months after the conclusion of the spectacle, with a mammoth 92 events taking place under the big arch. These events range from soccer matches, a once in a lifetime Pro20 Cricket match and some concerts and festival events. Some of the other stadiums have only managed 18 events after the World Cup, so you can only imagine the dire financial position they are in.

Other than all these events, the new stadium has also enticed the Amazulu soccer club to make it their home ground, but only as a result of a lucrative offer, in which the R1,5 million-a-match fee is being forfeited AND the club is getting their hands on most of the gate takings. A nice offer, considering the stadium can hold 54,000 fans and has 150 hospitality suites that can be used to host many an important government official.

This leads me to the problems that the Sharks Rugby Union will encounter, should they opt to move to the R3,4 Billion Moses Mabhida Stadium. The new stadium only has 150 suites, while Kings Park currently leases out 350 private suites, and the drop in suites would translate into a drop in revenue, as these are quite lucrative at the current stadium. The lay out of the new stadium also sees fans sitting further away from the action, which dampens the atmosphere somewhat.

For me though, the biggest shame in moving across to the new stadium will be the eventual destruction of Kings Park, or better known as The Tank, and with its destruction, so many memories and history which has gone hand in hand with the Sharks Rugby Union in recent times, will be lost. I might not have an answer for the financial problems at the new stadium, well not yet anyway, but surely the way forward is to keep it a soccer stadium, and keep these two amazing stadiums standing proudly, side by side.



69 Comments

  • I love Kings Park. It’s my favourite stadium in the world.

    But…

    If they can figure out the hospitality suite thing and the rental, I think the Sharks must move over. I watched a SWC match at Moses Mabida, from right at the top, and I felt a lot closer to the action from there than from on top of Kings Park. The place is just world class.

    To hold on to Kings Park for purely sentimental reasons would be foolish. Same goes for the Newlands/Greenpoint & Ellis Park/FNB.

    If they can figure out a reasonable shift for the rugby teams, they must take it. It will only enhance the fans’ viewing pleasure and hopefully financially as well.

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.11.11 14:06:31 by PTAShark Reply
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  • If the eThekwini Municipality could make them an offer they can’t refuse, I’d say go. Forget about the history of the place. In the long run it doesn’t really matter.

    Lions should’ve moved to Soccer City if they could, but again I don’t have the figures!

    Same with WP/Stormers. I presume selling Newlands would’ve brought in a lot of money, and negotiating with the Cape Town municipality to have total control over Green Point stadium could’ve had its benefits.

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.11.11 14:23:57 by hendrikp Reply

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  • I would love to watch a game there, should consider doing a few games there(on approw) to see how it goes and then find a way of resolving the existing issues, don’t know how they will accommodate the 200 less suite thou

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.11.11 14:25:41 by Franshark Reply
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  • I’m not sentimental so that part don’t bother me much; but as soon as they demolish KP stadium then there’s no going back… Think of all the parking there would be then… ;)

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.11.11 14:29:56 by Franshark Reply
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  • Kings Park has history, but from a purely aesthetic point of view, Moses Mabhida has to be one of the most visually arresting stadiums worldwide. I think if eThekwini could make it worthwhile (and by that I don’t necessarily mean as affordable as KP, there has to be some give and take), it would be great for the Sharks to be associated such an iconic piece of architecture.

    As for the shortage of suites, that’s why civil engineers, architects and builders have jobs.

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.11.11 14:45:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 5) :

    I was at a corporate function at Moses Mabida and it’s stunning inside. Also we should do the ‘big swing’ from the arch at some stage. I saw some okes jumping off there, it looks awesome!

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.11.11 14:50:54 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Moses Mabhida is world class with perhaps the only downside being the distance from the action. Passable in football but not great in rugby matches.

    In saying that, the Sharks should only move if it makes economic sense. Which it doesnt.

    I read somewhere that in order to lure the Sharks to the new stadium, the municipality would have to fund the shortfall due to the lack of suites. Something which they are clearly not keen to do since it amounts to about R30 – R40 million per year.

    All this could have been so easily sold if that arsehole Mike Sutcliff and the rest of his merry monkeys at the municipality had just sat down with the Rugby union to agree on certain things before the stadium was constructed.(eg how many suits to be built)
    Alas, old Mikey boy in all his wisdom went ahead and approved the current layout without the Sharks knowledge and now we find ourselves in this position.

    Beautiful stadium. If the municipality had had more than 2 brain cells to club together, they would have found a solution before the construction of Moses.

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.11.11 14:51:24 by John Galt Reply

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  • agreed distance drom action not ideal

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.11.11 14:52:06 by Talent Reply
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  • Naka has announced a provisional squad of 51 I see.

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.11.11 14:54:57 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Similar problem with Newlands, about a quarter the amount of suites at the CT stadium.

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.11.11 14:57:50 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • the dump soccer bosses did not think when planning the world cup. they could have put the money into king park.the only stadium running at a profit is in Port Elizabeth.

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.11.11 15:02:40 by pete69 Reply

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  • Ethekwini Municipality cannot make an offer to the Sharks that would tempt them to move across, they just cant financially. And it would make zero business sense for the Sharks to move across to the new stadium. The only way a move would take place is under political pressure…but we dotn discuss that here! Having said that why dont they get Moses Mabhida prepped for rugby and then have a few Sharks warmup games played there?? They can they see the viability of it.

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.11.11 15:11:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • The newspapers have covered this enough times.

    The Sharks would lose something like R20mil pa if they moved.

    If they did move tax / rate payers would have to pick up the bill.

    The brightsparks that signed off plans for the MM should have thought beyond 2010. If they’d built a stadium could have been modified later on to increase the no of boxes by +/-350 (I think KP has +/-500) maybe things could have turned out differently.

    How sad. The fact remains MM is a world class stadium where fans wud be more comfortable. Kingspark is a good stadium but I doubt it is world class.

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.11.11 15:17:08 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 13) : Its not just the suites that arent enough….there are only 20 lockers in the changerooms cos thats enough for soccer. So i guess 2 guys will be changing in the middle of the room if they dont redo the changerooms! Clearly there was not much thought given to after 2010. Unless they knew they could force rugby to move across.

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.11.11 15:23:19 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @pete69 (Comment 11) : yeah tell them son, i don’t know where richard ferg got his info, the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium is the way ahead moses mabhida in termsd of profitability! no joke

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.11.11 15:25:10 by Megatron Reply

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  • The Cheetahs 51.

    Agterspelers: Willie le Roux, Rudi Vogt (albei GW), Hennie Daniller, Rayno Benjamin, Philip Burger, Riaan Smit, Nico Scheepers, Cameron Jacobs (almal VS), Dusty Noblé, Rocco Jansen, Matt Rosslee, Wilmaure Louw, Jean Stemmet (almal GW), Philip Snyman, Robert Ebersohn, Barry Geel, Andries Strauss, Johan Goosen, Sias Ebersohn (almal VS), Marnitz Boshoff, Jacques Coetzee, Marnus Hugo (almal GW), Tewis de Bruyn, Pieter van Zyl (albei VS).

    Voorspelers: Leon Karemaker (GW), Ashley Johnson, Lappies Labuschagné, Juan Smith, Philip van der Walt, Davon Raubenheimer, Heinrich Brüssow, Johan Wessels (almal VS), Justin Downey, George Earl, Martin Muller (almal GW), JC Astle, Andries Ferreira, Francois Uys, Izak van der Westhuizen, Ockie van Zyl, Waltie Vermeulen (almal VS), Janro van Niekerk, Lourens Adriaanse (albei GW), Trevor Nyakane, Coenie Oosthuizen, Marcel van der Merwe, WP Nel (almal VS), Ryno Barnes (GW), Hercu Liebenberg, Adriaan Strauss, PW van Vuuren (almal VS).

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.11.11 15:48:05 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Johan wessels and rudi vogts- 2players I’d thought the sharks might be looking at.

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.11.11 16:25:00 by bergshark Reply

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  • Sharks need to save money and invest it in world-class coaches

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.11.11 16:26:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • Two things.

    1) Amazulu were at Kingsmead (the stadium before Mabhida stadium) for less than a season and then moved to KP because it was better for them financially. Now they are at Mabhida because of an offer that makes perfect financial sense for them and ZERO financial sense for the muncipality.

    Also don’t forget that very few if ANY of the suites at KP were sold to companies for the primary reason that Amazulu plays there, they were almost all sold because a Rugby team plays there. At Mabhida Amazulu have 1st choice currently.

    Why are the muncipality doing this?
    1) Because it take income away from KP and applies a little more pressure on the KZNRU.
    2) To be able to say “look this team is playing here” “we are losing money but this team is playing here”

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.11.11 16:40:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : I think your explanation might just be the correct one..very sad that it has come to this situation..shouldn’t they have just “upgraded” kp?rather than the new stadium?

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.11.11 16:55:35 by bergshark Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 9) : Are they moving to Mabhida?

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.11.11 17:03:02 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • 2) KP is COMPLETELY under KZNRU management and all but own KP.

    Across the road they would be tennants.

    At KP, if you have a suite it is yours to use for your lease period and you can personalise it. Will that be the case at Mabhida or will it be a case of being a suite that you use but have to vacate because another company will be using it next week when there is a soccer game on?

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.11.11 17:07:48 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 15) : The term should be lossability.

    The NM Stadium is way ahead of the MM Stadium in lossability.

    Profitability just seems like a bit of a stretch of the imagination when referring to these stadiums/stadia :mrgreen:

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.11.11 17:10:17 by beet Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 22) : Isn’t it a 99-year lease. Close to ownership but not.

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.11.11 17:13:34 by beet Reply
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  • Okay,so the sharks are staying at kp. Discussion over :-D

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.11.11 17:13:42 by bergshark Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 16) : I thought Matt Rosslee suffered a potential career ending injury?

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.11.11 17:14:10 by beet Reply
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  • Now let’s worry about getting those world-class coaches ( in the plural ;-) )

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.11.11 17:15:49 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 24) : I believe it is but am not 100% sure so won’t take Rich on about it :)

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.11.11 17:17:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 26) :

    Didn’t even know he was injured to be honest :mrgreen:

    Doubt he’d have made the squad anyway. Will be a tough choice with a few of those.

    Only positions we can really be sure of what they’ll do is loosehead & flyhalf. Everywhere else it’s an open contest for who gets the back-up roles.

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.11.11 17:20:29 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 23) : :mrgreen:

    Nelson Mandela Stadium profits by 2013
    22 Aug 2011

    The Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium expects to generate a profit by 2013 and the company appointed to manage the facility, Access Management, has already contributed R11 million to the city’s annual running costs of R21 million for the stadium.

    It says that by next year, revenue levels will grow to at least R17 million and from 2013 the company will start making a profit from the stadium. It is the only stadium built for the 2010 Soccer World Cup that is making a significant contribution to the annual running costs.

    For instance, the Cape Town Stadium in Greenpoint cost R4.5 billion to build and R57 million a year to operate but city officials are unable to predict when – or for that matter if – it will be self-financing.

    According to Access Management’s chief executive, Stephan Pretorius, the stadium has the support of Super Rugby in the Eastern Cape and 49 of the hospitality suites have been sold out to rugby fans for the next three years.

    The Premier Soccer League supports the stadium with regular matches involving big-name teams such as Kaizer Chiefs, Orlando Pirates and Mamelodi Sundowns being played at the venue. Added to this there are a number of concerts and music festivals that take place at the Nelson Mandela Stadium.

    The stadium is the only facility in the country to have an anchor tenant in the form of EP Rugby and The Bay branch of the South African Football Association is also based at the stadium.

    Pretorius says that the stadium and its management has proved to the people of Port Elizabeth that the stadium is not a white elephant and is good for the city as a whole.

    Port Elizabeth does not have a soccer team in the Premier Soccer League and also does not boast a top-level rugby franchise either.

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.11.11 17:29:20 by Megatron Reply

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  • I’m not sure whether you guys recall the article that Doc Louw wrote in the Witness several years ago highlighting the potential problems. http://www.witness.co.za/index.php?showcontent&global%5B_id%5D=23912

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.11.11 19:02:48 by durbsguy Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 30) : dis te minste een ding wat hulle goe kan doen want met die rugby gaan dit maar beroerd. If the kings play super rugby ( that is if they ever play super rugby ) it is going to be the worst showing by a south african team ever. Where in the world have you seen that a team that isn’t in the premier league of a country, is in a comp like super rugby.

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.11.11 19:17:28 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 32) : hi Br, off the subject, looks like there’s no bonus point in the cricket series cause Titans did not get any

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.11.11 19:27:00 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 33) : are you sure, according to supersport they have 5 points, do you know who the 7th team are going to be.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.11.11 19:37:20 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 34) : in the t20 that is.

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.11.11 19:39:34 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 34) : I do apologize, this morning they had 2 points, :oops:

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.11.11 19:47:04 by Franshark Reply
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  • According to Access Management’s chief executive, Stephan Pretorius, the stadium has the support of Super Rugby in the Eastern Cape

    And that is the clincher. The profits are based on them making the Super Rugby competition. And that won’t be a reality for some years to come. Them not even being able to win the 1st Division is all the excuse that SARU and SANZR needs to keep them excluded.

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.11.11 19:59:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 36) : don’t worry that is why I asked , maar ek het gedink hulle het die kat aan die stert beet

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.11.11 20:49:40 by BR Reply
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  • @BR (Comment 32) : when SANZAR put out tenders for the 15th franchise to join super rugby participation in “premier league” was NOT one of the prerequisites. The lions played in the premier division of the currie cup and they lost all 13 games last year, what could be “worse” than that?

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.11.11 21:31:34 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : I could think of a few things worse than that.

    1) Losing all 16 games?
    2) Losing all 16 games by 40plus?
    3) Ending with ZERO more times in one season than it has ever occured in the combined history of the competition.
    4) setting the new record for the biggest losing margin in the comp?

  • Comment 40, posted at 04.11.11 06:29:04 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) : Agreed, but the 15th spot has long since been filled.

    It will be interesting to see who puts out tenders for any new spots should the competition expand?

  • Comment 41, posted at 04.11.11 06:32:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :

    Will be EP Kings if SARU help them get stronger and automatically promote them to the Premier Division. They’ve got everything else in place.

    On another note, any hints from Plumtree as to where he’ll be playing Lambie in 2012? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 42, posted at 04.11.11 06:44:55 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 39) :

    That Lions team that lost all 13 games would still have given the current EP Kings team a good hiding :mrgreen:

    They need help. First step being promotion to the Premier Division. None of the top players want to go there and play First Division.

  • Comment 43, posted at 04.11.11 06:48:55 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Eish. Some very Banana Republic type arguments here.

    Boland whipped the Kings this year, so what would a S15 team do to them?

  • Comment 44, posted at 04.11.11 07:08:30 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 44) :

    Not often you find someone with EP Kings goggles on :lol:

  • Comment 45, posted at 04.11.11 07:16:35 by hendrikp Reply

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  • eThekwini Municipality don’t give a frig about who or what suffers as a result of them moving The Sharks to their big nothing stadium.

    It’s all about lining their own pockets and not about preserving The Sharks brand.

  • Comment 46, posted at 04.11.11 07:31:22 by Predawn Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 45) : Burger is voted SA PotY and your first comments this morning are all about the EP Kings. :shock: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 47, posted at 04.11.11 07:54:43 by beet Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 47) :

    I don’t like rubbing it in, but here goes.

    Schalk Burger is the 2nd Greatest Springbok of all time, and probably deserves to have won the award more then twice.

    Had he not broken his neck, he’d have been the greatest Springbok ever.

  • Comment 48, posted at 04.11.11 07:58:54 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 47) : Schalk definitely deserves player of the year after his RWC performances…best BOK there by some distance! And just to stir debate…Morne Steyn ended as the top points scorer at RWC! As for the suites at Moses Mabhida…ive been there when Amazulu play and if 5 suites are actually opened thats a lot!

  • Comment 49, posted at 04.11.11 08:08:50 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Congrats to Lambie, Bissie and Schalk!

    Bissie probably getting the best reward for player’s player of the year.

    Congrats also to John Mitchell and the Lions.

    @Megatron (Comment 30) :

    And to Sburu Sithole for try of the year.

  • Comment 50, posted at 04.11.11 08:09:25 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 44) : and you are canaan banana himself. boland whipped the kings the same way australia whipped the boks.

  • Comment 51, posted at 04.11.11 08:17:49 by Megatron Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 48) : That’s a bald-faced lie if ever I saw one; you *love* rubbing it in! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 52, posted at 04.11.11 08:18:57 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 50) : good on the boytjie! now he must work on defence!

  • Comment 53, posted at 04.11.11 08:19:08 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 52) :

    True.

  • Comment 54, posted at 04.11.11 08:24:31 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 53) :

    You can see the okes were tired in that game. The whole try seemed to happen in slow motion! The final are 10 minutes a side and this happened after the final whistle.

  • Comment 55, posted at 04.11.11 08:25:22 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 55) : the Blitzbokke were dead & burried, their comeback was short of miraculous, big win! :razz:

  • Comment 56, posted at 04.11.11 08:45:04 by Megatron Reply

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  • Why don’t the Sharks use Moses on when we feel like under the pretext of looking at the logistics until such an occasion where the Municipality gives them a better deal.

    A rough estimate says that at least 15 000 more people will attend each game played at Moses . So a semi-final for example will get a full stadium or playing a big game. The move to Moses will mean an increase in revenue from a bigger attendance at games, but I still think that this won’t feasible in the long run.
    Thus a use when want to , to increase revenue, and explain to the Municipality that’s its for trial purposes only. It might force them to give the Sharks a better deal.

  • Comment 57, posted at 04.11.11 08:54:33 by Mocho Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 55) : Sithole was fresh legs… That dive close to the line still give me the shivers

  • Comment 58, posted at 04.11.11 09:00:07 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 56) : I’d like the Sharks to give him a go at center, what’s his feeling, up for it?

  • Comment 59, posted at 04.11.11 09:04:12 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Mocho (Comment 57) :
    Thats assuming that Moses will be full. Which is no guarantee in Durban.
    We battle to fill KP in a CC semifinal. Also, an extra 15000 seats wont touch sides on the revenue missed out with 200 less suits.

  • Comment 60, posted at 04.11.11 09:06:29 by John Galt Reply

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  • @John Galt (Comment 60) : I agree with you that more seats doesnt mean more people! The tickets at Moses will obviously be more than they would be at KP. Also how would season ticket holders feel? There are also no scholar benches so would they have to pay Adult price? The grass at the stadium is not conducive to rugby, so that would be an extra cost the municipality would have to incur and would no doubt pass that cost onto the Sharks.

  • Comment 61, posted at 04.11.11 09:12:47 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Just a thought here…the Soccer World Cup is not going to come to SA again, chancs of getting the Olympics are slim. Moses cannot sustain itself just on soccer matches and the odd concert. So what would be the cost of demolishing the stadium and turning it into soccer/rugby fields versus the cost of trying to maintain the stadium over the next 20yrs for example???

  • Comment 62, posted at 04.11.11 09:16:11 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 57) : ???????

    on what is this estimate of a 15k greater attendance based?

  • Comment 63, posted at 04.11.11 09:39:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Mocho (Comment 57) : increased revenue for who? At KP the KZNRU don’t have to pay anyone a cent of the gate takings it is all theirs.

    At Moses Mabhida that won’t be the case.

  • Comment 64, posted at 04.11.11 09:41:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 59) : he started as a centre and moved to wing later in high school, i’m not sure if he still remembers the nuances of the position, but like lambie he could be tried there again and see if he sinks or swims

  • Comment 65, posted at 04.11.11 10:02:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @PTAShark (Comment 1) : I totally agree with you. I love Kings Park and the memories of going there will always be special, but it is time for us to think of moving over to the world class MB Stadium.

    Going to Kings Park and seeing MB stadium just over the road it kinda feels like I am sitting in a outdated stadium from a bygone era and watching MB over the road is like seeing the first world……hahaha. Well so to speak.

    I went to see one of the world cup games at MB Stadium and thought the viewing from the top was absolutely brilliant. Everything about that stadium is pure world class and a huge pity we can’t be using it. Crazy for them not to have built the same amount of suites that Kings Park have. I for one hope one day we make the move over the road.

  • Comment 66, posted at 04.11.11 10:17:07 by Puma Reply

    PumaCurrie Cup player
     
  • MB staduim the most beautiful staduim in the world ..People from Durban and Natal should be very proud of it ..

    Everything in the staduim is perfect and my 4 visits there were memrobale everytime.

  • Comment 67, posted at 04.11.11 10:25:46 by CoffeeshopBok ;-) Reply

    csbSuper Rugby player
     
  • @CoffeeshopBok ;-) (Comment 67) : The stadium is world class, and getting in and out is much easier than KP- no ramps! But the fact is that it would take a substantial cost to get the stadium ready for rugby. At the end of the day rugby is a business and moving across the raod would be a horrible business decision based on how things are at the moment. For rugby to move the government has to come to the party…its their stuff up that has led to the problem!

  • Comment 68, posted at 04.11.11 10:39:15 by SheldonK Reply

    SheldonKAssistant coach
     
  • Driving through Durban, you have the most unusual sight of two world class stadiums being situated literally a stone throw away from each other, as Mr. Price Kings Park and The Moses Mabhida Stadium grace your view.

    It’s an effing joke! MM is a beautiful stadium, but what a colossal waste of money. Also, it’s not a great stadium for watching rugby as the stand elevation is pretty low and spectators will be 100+ metres away from the action if they are sitting at the back. VERY glad KZNRU gave Mike Sutcliffe and his tenderpreneur cronies the middle one. :cool:

  • Comment 69, posted at 06.11.11 22:45:14 by klempie Reply

    klempieTeam captain
     

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