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Coetzee is the pick of the litter


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks on 7 Nov 2011 at 16:50
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The Sharks Academy recently held their 2011 Awards ceremony, to recognise those boys who have achieved the most – and made the greatest strides – over the last year.

Unsurprisingly, Port Natal old boy Marcell Coetzee was voted the best pup in the litter this year, having completely bypassed the under 21 ranks to play a crucial role for the senior side, both in Super Rugby and in the Currie Cup. Coetzee was additionally nominated for SA Rugby’s Vodacom Cup Player of the Year award, an indication that he had a big impact on that competition too. Coetzee won the Academy’s Rugby Player of the Year award, fopr the player who has achieved the highest honours in rugby for the year.

A trio of players, all of whom represented the Sharks under 21s this year, were awarded “best in class” ribbons within their applicable age groups; Pieter-Steph du Toit was the best first-year, Jaco van Tonder the pick of the second years and Monde Hadebe the best-performing third year. The likeable hooker, who captained the under 21s this year and also made a senior debut for the Sharks in the Currie Cup also won the Top Achiever Award, for the player who has excelled the most in all aspects.

Other notable winners were under 19 centre Ruan Allerston, voted the Most Improved Player at the Academy in 2011, Siseko Jafta, the Most Improved Conditioning Student of the year and Chris Cloete, who won “The Beast” award for the best overall conditioning.

Congrats to all the winners… the full list is below:

Top Results In BCOM First Year Course

UNISA accredited Degree Course conducted by our Academic Partner Varsity College
Winner: Guy Alexander (3 Distinctions)
Runners-up: Thulani Sishi (1 Distinction), Pieter Wilmans (1 Distinction)

Top Results In BCOM Second Year Course
UNISA accredited Degree Course conducted by our Academic Partner Varsity College
Kayde Fisher (2 Distinctions)
Runners-up: Heimar Williams, Monde Hadebe

Top Results in Marketing Management Diploma – First Year Course
Conducted through Academic Partner Centec Thekwini College
Winner: Chesney Botha
Runners-up: Simon Kerrod, Siyabulela Mteto

Top Results in Marketing Management Diploma – Second Year Course
Conducted through Academic Partner Centec Thekwini College
Winner: Paul van Jaarsveld
Runners-up: Christopher Carey, Michael du Plessis

Top Results in Marketing Management Diploma – Third Year Course Conducted through Academic Partner Centec Thekwini College
Winner: Blake Beattie
Runners-up: Charles Purdon, Carl Marks

Top Results in First Year Sports Management Diploma Course
Conducted through Academic Partner Excercise Teacher’s Academy
Winner: Dimilekhaya Mpofana
Runners up: Burt Fraser, Yamkela Ngam

Top Results in First Year ETA Personal Fitness Trainer’s Certificate Course (ETA)
Conducted through Academic Partner Excercise Teacher’s Academy
Samuel Fourie

Top Results in Second Year ETA Personal Fitness Trainer’s Certificate Course (ETA)
Conducted through Academic Partner Excercise Teacher’s Academy
Winner: Jamie Croeser
Runners up: Siphatheseni Dube, Timothy Motz

Best First Year Rugby Student

Criteria: The player who excelled in the rugby course by transferring the techniques taught into the skills needed to perform in games. He is a very committed student with outstanding attendance and great attitude at Rugby sessions.
Winner: Pieter-Steph du Toit
Nominees: Paul Jordaan, Allan Dell

Best Second Year Rugby Student
Winner: Jaco van Tonder
Nominees: Marcell Coetzee, Nicholas Schonert, Francois Kleinhans

Best Third Year Rugby Student
Winner: Monde Hadebe
Nominees: S’bura Sithole, Peet Marais

Most Improved Conditioning Student of the Year
Criteria: He has a positive attitude, he improved his speed, explosiveness and strength from week to week.
Siseko Jafta

The Beast – Conditioning Award
Criteria: He is the ultimate professional. The total Athlete
Chris Cloete

Most Improved Player of The Year
Criteria: This player has defied the odds and has improved greatly in some cases far quicker than was expected
Winner: Ruan Allerston
Nominees: Marc Van Aswegen, Nicholas Van Der Westhuizen, Michael Williams, Ivan Ludick

Rugby Player Of The Year
Criteria: He is the player that has achieved the highest honors in Rugby for 2011
Winner: Marcell Coetzee
Nominees: S’bura Sithole, Paul Jordaan, Gouws Prinsloo, Peet Marais, Monde Hadebe

Top Achiever Of The Year
This goes to the student who has excelled in all aspects. He received top academic results, has an outstanding work ethic and his overall conditioning is superb. He possess strong leadership qualities and has excelled on the playing field.
Winner: Monde Hadebe
Nominees: Gouws Prinsloo, Heimar Williams, Jacobus Reinach



81 Comments

  • Guy Alexander – 3 distinctions? Bloody good… he’s brighter than his uncle :)

  • Comment 1, posted at 07.11.11 16:53:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Well done to all the youngsters who won awards.

  • Comment 2, posted at 07.11.11 17:06:44 by Ben Reply

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  • Well done to all the winners.

    Marcell Coetzee deserves his award.

    I must say from what I’ve seen this season in junior CC rugby lock Pieter-Steph du Toit (a potential star in the making) and the ever improving unknown until 2011 homegrown centre Ruan Zorba Allerston are full value for their awards.

    I don’t know much about conditioning but Chris Cloete has been a beast at the breakdowns this season and Jafta (who is still officially u19 this year) has gotten a lot bigger since 2010.

  • Comment 3, posted at 07.11.11 17:23:54 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 3) : dare we hope they actually give Allerston a contract now?

  • Comment 4, posted at 07.11.11 17:55:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wouldve liked to have seen the sharks try out cloete as a fetcher type flank in the cc team.

  • Comment 5, posted at 07.11.11 19:03:22 by bergshark Reply

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  • Coetzee is going to become a household name amongst Sharks supporters, kid has a big future ahead of him

  • Comment 6, posted at 07.11.11 19:04:27 by Mutley Reply

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  • @beet: is allerston an inside or outside centre?

  • Comment 7, posted at 07.11.11 19:05:20 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet:@robdylan: has lambert groenewald been let go?

  • Comment 8, posted at 07.11.11 19:12:42 by bergshark Reply

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  • I like the facts that the awards focus on academics as well as rugby criteria; the fact is that a player can consider himself fortunate if he has a 10 – 15 year playing lifespan, and it is important for the young guys to obtain some skills and qualification to assist them when their playing days are over.

  • Comment 9, posted at 07.11.11 19:13:18 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @beet: chris cloete is about 1.75m tall but I’m sure I heard on the tv or read somewhere that he was able to bench press +140kg(?) while at school.
    Shall do some googling on that.

  • Comment 10, posted at 07.11.11 19:16:42 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 9) : Now you’re all for qualifications? :mrgreen:

    What’s next? Chairing the ‘this Cooke won’t spoil the Sharks broth’ campaign.

  • Comment 11, posted at 07.11.11 19:17:58 by beet Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 7) : As far as I know he is an inside centre.

  • Comment 12, posted at 07.11.11 19:19:03 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 11) : I must say, you’d give my wife a run for her money in terms of fixating on one of my past statements… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 13, posted at 07.11.11 19:23:58 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 13) : Ur right. I’m going to put this one to bed now. But it was fun. :-)

  • Comment 14, posted at 07.11.11 19:27:10 by beet Reply

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  • @beet:culling song: I thought I was the chairman of that committee

  • Comment 15, posted at 07.11.11 19:32:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • What has become of lambert groenewald?is he still at the sharks or has he also been let go?

  • Comment 16, posted at 07.11.11 19:44:55 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 16) : If I’m not mistaken he was let go earlier this year. He went to Italy.

  • Comment 17, posted at 07.11.11 19:55:32 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 17) : spot on.

  • Comment 18, posted at 07.11.11 22:09:44 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 12) : inside, yup. Can also do a job at 10

  • Comment 19, posted at 07.11.11 22:10:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 8) : Groenewald left the same time as Kobus de Kock, another up and coming player who was in the Sharks Academy. Both represented by Union Sports Group http://www.unionsportsgroup.com/rugby/players-we-manage
    They have the whos-who in SA rugby on their books!

  • Comment 20, posted at 07.11.11 22:21:58 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 20) : I think a WELCOME is on the cards here!!!!

  • Comment 21, posted at 07.11.11 22:36:38 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 21) : Thanks Franshark! @beet Not only does this photo suggest that Chris Cloete looks in very good shape but he bears a slight resemblance to another fetcher! http://www.galloimages.co.za/image/chris-cloete-absa-sharks-blue-bulls/1138013/1

  • Comment 22, posted at 07.11.11 22:47:42 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy: do you perhaps know how much cloete could bench press at high school? It is bit random but I’m sure I can remember something mentioned on tv( at the kearsney rugby festival where he was awarded a sharks academy scholarship) that he was benching +140kg?

  • Comment 23, posted at 07.11.11 22:56:34 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy: looks very much like brussow in that pic- and biceps like the terminator.

  • Comment 24, posted at 07.11.11 23:02:53 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 23) : Not sure but I can find out for you. My mates brother coaches the U19s. He’ll have an idea. Cloete played for SA Schools in 2009 so the Sharks did well securing his services

  • Comment 25, posted at 07.11.11 23:07:32 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 23) : Actually Cloete sat bench in 2009 for SA Schools. The loose trio in 2009 was Kolisi at 8, Jean Cook (7) and Lean Schwartz (6 – Bulls U21 openside 2011). Cloete and Nazeem Carr were the loose forward reserves

  • Comment 26, posted at 07.11.11 23:13:50 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy: thanks it would be interesting to now.
    I can remember hans scriba being quite excited about chris cloete at the kearsney tournament in ’09.
    Just hope he gets a shot at the senior team soon.actually surprised he wasn’t given some gametime with the senior team during this year’s cc campaign.

  • Comment 27, posted at 07.11.11 23:14:55 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy: might just ask you to find out for us here at sw who is heading to the sharks next year ( under 19s signings for 2012 season).

  • Comment 28, posted at 07.11.11 23:22:53 by bergshark Reply

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  • Whatever became of scott mathie?

  • Comment 29, posted at 07.11.11 23:23:46 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 29) : He’s playing for Sale Sharks in The Aviva Premiership. He may playing for Sales against Brive this weekend whom Antonie Claassen and Scott Spedding play for

  • Comment 30, posted at 07.11.11 23:27:19 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy: thanks for the link to unionsportsgroup.
    See they have some talented youngsters there : ungerer,tom,zeilinga .
    Also both the young weepee locks quinn roux and etsebeth.

  • Comment 31, posted at 07.11.11 23:35:20 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 31) : They certainly have quite an impressive stable from the established to the up and coming.

  • Comment 32, posted at 07.11.11 23:43:56 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 28) : Not sure who they’ve signed at this stage. I can tell who they haven’t signed!! The Blue Bulls scout is Xander Janse van Rensburg and he sure has earned himself a nice bonus this year!

    The following players signed contracts with the BBC (Blue Bulls Company) and will be in their employ from 1 January 2012 to 31 December 2013:

    Props: Justin Forwood (Blue Bulls), Jan Enslin (Eastern Province), Andrew Beerwinkel (Boland, SA Schools), Neethling Fouché (Free State, SA Schools 2010), Ryan Germishuys (Border).

    Hookers: Hamish Herd (Pumas), Jacques Taylor (KwaZulu-Natal).

    Locks: Irne Herbst (Blue Bulls, SA Schools), Philip du Preez (Golden Lions, SA Schools), Jannes Kirsten (Blue Bulls), Jacques du Plessis (Pumas, SA Schools), Dennis Visser (Blue Bulls).

    Loose forwards: Roelof Smit (Blue Bulls), Leneve Damens (Free State, SA Schools), Bernie Roux (Blue Bulls), Christiaan de Bruyn (Blue Bulls), Ferdi Horn (KwaZulu-Natal), Clyde Davids (Western Province), Paul Janse van Rensburg (Blue Bulls), Nicolaas Immelman (Free State).

    Scrumhalves: Kefentse Mahlo (Blue Bulls Limpopo), Carlo Engelbrecht (Blue Bulls).

    Flyhalves: François Tredoux (Blue Bulls), Dalton Kannemeyer (Western Province Academy, SA Academy).

    Centres: Jan Serfontein (Free State, SA Schools), Dean Moolman (KwaZulu-Natal), Lood de Jager (Eastern Province CD), Dries Swanepoel (Free State, SA Schools), Craig Geldenhuys (KwaZulu-Natal), Jason Kriel (Boland).

    Wings: Ruwellyn Isbell (Free State, SA Schools), Ayabona Masiba (Border).

    Fullbacks: Neil Meyer (Pumas), Jacques Rossouw (Boland).

  • Comment 33, posted at 07.11.11 23:48:58 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy: quite a big squad – and I see there is also quite a few players from kzn in the mix – including 2 centres.is dean moolman from pionier in vryheid?

  • Comment 34, posted at 07.11.11 23:55:43 by bergshark Reply

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  • Six sa schools players in the forwards(if I counted correctly).

  • Comment 35, posted at 07.11.11 23:57:38 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy: I hope that game (Sale sharks vs brive )is going to be televised- wanna see how ronnie cooke goes.

  • Comment 36, posted at 07.11.11 23:59:43 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy: I must admit,I didn’t get to watch even one game of this year’s craven week.but from what I read,the 2 cheetahs centres were much sought after.

  • Comment 37, posted at 08.11.11 00:01:50 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 34) : Moolman is still at Glenwood. Think he’s a Newcastle lad. Glenwood must have recruited him early. Horn, Geldenhuys and Taylor are also are Glenwood

  • Comment 38, posted at 08.11.11 00:04:15 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy: comment33 : how big was the budget the bulls scout had to work with??mustve spent some money on this group of players..

  • Comment 39, posted at 08.11.11 00:08:32 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 37) : Those centres are very good in particular Serfontein. The guy is a natural. I think he may just skip the Bulls U19s and go directly into the U21s he’s that good! Failing injury he’ll be wearing the 13 jersey for the SA U20s next year. Grey College snapped both up from other areas of SA. Serfontein from PE and Swanepoel from the North West

  • Comment 40, posted at 08.11.11 00:10:45 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 39) : Will have a dig and get back to you tomorrow. Time for a kip. cheers

  • Comment 41, posted at 08.11.11 00:12:07 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy:comment38: thanks for the info.

  • Comment 42, posted at 08.11.11 00:12:07 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy: thanks.enjoy the sleep,chat tomorrow.

  • Comment 43, posted at 08.11.11 00:14:20 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 10) : Interesting fact warren seals kearsney fh last year bench pressed 160 kg in season ,but really bench press is not all its cracked up to be.

    Interesting article

  • Comment 44, posted at 08.11.11 07:07:18 by Talent Reply
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  • @slammerboy (Comment 33) : Everytime I see this Bulls u19 list I get miserable esp with regards to the locks.

    Even some of the relatively unknown players like Jason Kriel are really good players.

    I useless bit of information is that Bernie Roux of Affies is Quinn Roux’s younger brother.

  • Comment 45, posted at 08.11.11 08:03:21 by beet Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 33) : I thought we’d signed Ryan Germishuys :( :( :(

  • Comment 46, posted at 08.11.11 08:45:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 45) :

    See the Stormers have not resigned Pieter Louw.

    Rassie really starting to piss me off hey.

  • Comment 47, posted at 08.11.11 09:01:17 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 47) : For reals?Where did you hear that, Blaauw also wont get another contract.

  • Comment 48, posted at 08.11.11 09:31:13 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 48) :

    Nothing has been said about Blaauw. I believe he’ll get another contract, especially after the release of JD Moller.

    Said so on SuperSport. (regarding Pieter Louw, JD Moller etc.)

  • Comment 49, posted at 08.11.11 09:38:31 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 46) : Ryan is an outstanding player in the loose, however I’ve heard that he needs to put in a bit of work on his scrumming. The Bulls are a good place to be for sorting this out tho.

    We have landed Marne Coetzee, the SA Schools TH that kept 2010 SA Schools prop Neethling Fouche out of the SA Sch this time around. He has moved from Klofies to Glenwood and has a year of school left. The rules for some of the Highveld compos like Beeld Trofee with it’s age limit (no u19 players) means it’s not worth his while staying in Pretoria, hence the early move. I’m sure he’ll be in the u19 team come mid-August 2012.

  • Comment 50, posted at 08.11.11 10:10:10 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 50) : that’s good news!

  • Comment 51, posted at 08.11.11 10:37:11 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 50) : regarding Germishuys, though… it just pisses me off that we offer these boys Academy bursaries, yet they decide to go somewhere else

  • Comment 52, posted at 08.11.11 10:39:29 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 52) : True. I really like him. He’s a big unit but does a mountain of work in the loose. Obviously being that big at SBR level means his scrumming technique doesn’t really come to be challenged. So we’ll see. I wonder if he’ll become a LH?

  • Comment 53, posted at 08.11.11 10:54:36 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 50) : Out of interest why does KZN not have a similar trophy to the Beeld? Would go a way to decide who is the no 1 school in the province

  • Comment 54, posted at 08.11.11 10:58:48 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 47) : Pieter Louw will probably go to France or even Newcastle!. The agency he is with looks after Greg Goosen, Adriaan Fondse and Corne Uys who are all at Newcastle Falcons

  • Comment 55, posted at 08.11.11 11:12:03 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 55) : Pieter Louw will never get a UK visa, though.

  • Comment 56, posted at 08.11.11 11:20:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • Chris is a star for the future and would like to see him play in the cc next year. He now benches about 170kg.

  • Comment 57, posted at 18.11.11 17:26:29 by smart Reply

     
  • @smart: read an arti the other day that said brad thorn bench pressed 175kg max when at the brisbane broncos _ made him one of the strongest ( bench press) at the team. Not bad for chris cloete to be benching 170kg.how much does he weigh?

  • Comment 58, posted at 18.11.11 17:32:37 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 58) : 94Kg

  • Comment 59, posted at 18.11.11 17:35:59 by smart Reply

     
  • @smart (Comment 57) : bliksem…

    You can tell from that chest and back that the boy is HUGELY strong. guess he must have spent the whole year he was out with his leg just working on upper body strength

  • Comment 60, posted at 18.11.11 17:37:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : Most prob, do you know where I can get a picture or video of how he broke his leg? Do you think he has a future in rugby?

  • Comment 61, posted at 18.11.11 17:40:56 by smart Reply

     
  • @smart: thanks for that info.

  • Comment 62, posted at 18.11.11 17:44:17 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 58) : Most prob, do you know where I can get a picture or video of how he broke his leg? Do you think he has a future in rugby?

  • Comment 63, posted at 18.11.11 17:44:19 by smart Reply

     
  • @bergshark (Comment 58) : Most prob, do you know where I can get a picture or video of how he broke his leg? Do you think he has a future in rugby??

  • Comment 64, posted at 18.11.11 17:45:03 by smart Reply

     
  • @smart (Comment 61) : i think he has a big future considering the Sharks cupboard is pretty bare when it comes to flankers who can fetch!

  • Comment 65, posted at 18.11.11 17:45:09 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @smart: don’t know where you’d find something like that-maybe youtube,if I had to guess.
    Definitely think he can go a long way in rugby .has the physical attributes and the work ethic.from what I saw of him with the u214 this season,he caught the eye at the breakdown.hope he can develop into sharks prime fetcher – and boks .
    Hans scriba was very excitwd when he said after kearsney festival-2009- that they seem to have managed to get chris cloete at the sharks academy.

  • Comment 66, posted at 18.11.11 17:49:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 66) : Yea just this year they did not give him a full chance. Do you know why?

  • Comment 67, posted at 18.11.11 17:52:33 by smart Reply

     
  • @smart: no,the thinking of the sharks coaching staff is a mystery- and cause for much debate on here.

  • Comment 68, posted at 18.11.11 17:57:38 by bergshark Reply

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  • @smart: he has the talent and the work ethic,physical attributes.just needs to keep on at it.
    Phil waugh was about his size 1.76m and 101-104kg.

  • Comment 69, posted at 18.11.11 18:02:56 by bergshark Reply

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  • hated Christopher Cloete while he was still at Selborne,the oke is that good,his poaching skills are phenomenal. Was so happy in 2009 when he got bounced by Johan Meyer,but those were rare. He’s a Brussow in waiting,apparently he was a gym freak,minimum of 2 hours gym while still at school,don’t know how much he gyms now. He was a menace though for all opposition school in 08 and 09.

  • Comment 70, posted at 18.11.11 18:16:03 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 70) : I’m a fan, that’s for sure.

    He went to some place called Clarendon? I’ve never even heard of that school…

  • Comment 71, posted at 18.11.11 18:26:16 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 71) : no Clarendon Girls is Selborne College’s sister school. Chris Cloete is a Selbornian

  • Comment 72, posted at 18.11.11 18:44:41 by Ludz Reply

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  • @all, school kids benching over 150kg is rubbish unless they on creatine, glutamine or juice! I’m not a small guy, 6foot4 and 105kg and even when I was gyming every day and taking my subs etc I could only bench 130kg for 10 reps. If these blokes are claiming these figures it’s for one rep and probably not even a full rep where they use their triceps more than their chests. I also did some gym instructing in my youth for extra money whilst at varsity and the strongest bodybuilder at Westville Virgin Active could only bench 160kg for 10 reps or 220kg for one rep. The biggest proper deep squat I saw was 250kg for 10 reps….sorry just needed to put the record straight…

  • Comment 73, posted at 18.11.11 18:54:58 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Slammerboy, we need a Beeld Trophy to stop the debate! We need a proper league so Top 10 (Gold League) and then 10 to 20 (Silver League) with similar points to the Currie Cup, so maybe Daily News or another sponsor could oblige? My company has the money but the target audience would be a waste for our brand. Gold League would be College, Glenwood, Westville, Kearsney, Michaelhouse, DHS, Hilton, Northwood, George Campbell and Port Natal. The Silver League could be Kloof, Hillcrest, Voortrekker, Ferrum, Vryheid, Empangeni, Richard Bay, St Charles, St Henry’s and one other. The Top of the silver league could play the bottom of the Gold team to get promotion. Plenty of opportunity for sports drinks etc to co sponser…

  • Comment 74, posted at 18.11.11 19:00:56 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 73) : bear in mind that this is not a school kid. Cloete is now two years out of school, making him 20.

  • Comment 75, posted at 18.11.11 19:22:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • Yep, even at 20 benching 170kg for 10 reps is highly unlikely for rugby player who needs to be quick around the field. Even proper body builders at 20 would battle. Methinks the grapevine has increased the total from about 130 to 170. I think even Sheridan the strongest in the Eng squad only does 180 kg for 3 reps and that includes ballie strength.

  • Comment 76, posted at 18.11.11 19:47:41 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 76) : ballie strength :) Like that.

    I’ll let you know once I manage to get hold of Chris

  • Comment 77, posted at 18.11.11 19:54:17 by robdylan Reply
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  • FYI; http://m.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/jan/08/rugbyunion.news?cat=sport&type=article

  • Comment 78, posted at 18.11.11 19:57:57 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • David Pocock broke the Reds bench record at 170kg and he is a senior player. Chris must be incredible if he can match that! http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/reds-vs-force-trial-match-review/

  • Comment 79, posted at 18.11.11 20:05:47 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • Stats for boks;
    Strongest: CJ van der Linde – 190kg bench
    Victor Matfield – 155kg bench
    Pierre Spies – 165kg bench
    Chris at only 94kg must be the strongest rugby player in the world based on weight to strength ratio!

  • Comment 80, posted at 18.11.11 20:26:46 by Grasshopper Reply

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  • @Grasshopper (Comment 74) : I like the idea of a tournament similar to Die Beeld. Each team plays each other home and away. I’d also like something for the Top 20 schools which will confirm who really has the strongest 1st team in the country. I wonder who owns the TV rights for the the games? Does SS pay the school a few thousand to broadcast a game? There’s lots of interested that can be generated with this opportunitty

  • Comment 81, posted at 18.11.11 21:38:46 by slammerboy Reply

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