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Human is new Griquas coach


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Other SA Teams on 8 Nov 2011 at 09:04
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Former Blue Bulls coach Pote Human has been appointed head coach for Griquas for the next three years.

Human, who came in during the Currie Cup campaign as a forwards specialist and assistant to head coach Abrie Minnie has effectively swapped places with the latter, Minnie having ruled himself out of contention for the head coaching job due to “personal reasons”, although he will continue to serve as Human’s deputy.

Human, a legend of the game back in the 80s as the bearded eighthman who terrorised opposition playing for both Eastern Province and Free State, cut his coaching teeth with the Griffons, before moving on to Shimlas and then the Blue Bulls, whom he coached to a share of the Currie Cup trophy 2006. He was also part of the Bulls coaching team in the 2007 Super 14, which they won, somewhat controversially!

Griquas, who have already started training for the 2012 Vodacom Cup, find themselves needing a new captain for next season as well, with Jonathan Mokuena departing to play overseas. Former Sharks flanker Justin Downey must surely come into the reckoning, along with Wesley Wilkins and Leon Karemaker.



29 Comments

  • I would LOVE to know the STORY behind this.

    Minnie, did a damn good job as head coach.

    When I read the heading I thought Minnie had been head hunted by a bigger union.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.11.11 09:26:01 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • They don’t come much tougher than Pote. Don’t know much about his coaching though.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.11.11 09:33:23 by MysticShark Reply
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  • With the Varsity Cup on at the side time does anyone really care bout the Vodacom Cup? I went to 1 Sharks XV game and if there were more people in the stands than on the field I would surprised…

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.11.11 09:55:33 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Abri Minnie was too emotional, always thought he was going to break out into tears during press conferences.

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.11.11 09:58:39 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 3) :

    Should ditch the Vodacom Cup, it’s a waste of time.

    If anything it just devalues the jersey.

    Not 100% sure what I’d like to replace it, but something involving clubs (rather then provincial sides) would be ideal.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.11.11 10:02:35 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 5) : I don’t think its a waste of time at all. It gives the S15 fringe players some much needed exposure. Especially to the ones that are older than 21 and can’t play for the juniors anymore.

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.11.11 10:11:41 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 6) :

    A club championship, featuring the top clubs from around SA would allow similar exposure, and might actually get a few people taking notice.

    Would allow for players who aren’t necessarily known to provincial coaches to also make a name for themselves.

    Vodacom Cup will never be a success. But with club rugby we’d at least have a shot at making things work.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.11.11 10:15:26 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 6) : @hendrikp (Comment 7) : There are top level club games that are better than some of those Vodacom Cup games. I agree with disbanding the comp as the interest in it will just get less and less. Let those guys go back to their clubs and increase the strength of club rugby in the provinces.

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.11.11 10:24:53 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : I think the Vodacom Cup should take a leaf out of the Varsity Cup book and moving to midweek games say Tues/Weds. They are never going to attract big crowds but by avoiding the clash with SR, potentially the TV will pick up significantly.

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.11.11 10:27:15 by beet Reply
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  • I remember Pote Human from both his EP and Vrystaat days. He was a “vuil uil”. He was the human equivalent of Bruno, that character from Popeye. I used to dislike Pote intensely at first but later got to like him.

    At about the same time there was a Pote Fourie playing for N/Tvl. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.11.11 10:31:37 by beet Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 6) : I’d far rather there was a proper Super Rugby reserves league, with each side fielding a reserve side as well which would play a curtain raiser ahead of the main game.

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.11.11 10:33:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : @SheldonK (Comment 8) : But surely that’s what Vodacom cup is? The best club players in a province go and play Vodacom cup for that province? Really can’t see how club rugby would attract more interest.

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.11.11 10:35:04 by Ben Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :

    Good idea.

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.11.11 10:35:43 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 12) :

    It would allow a wider group of players to stake a claim.

    At the moment it’s just a case of being identified early. There could be better club players going unnoticed.

    I just think going back to club rugby would strengthen the game at amateur levels.

    The Vodacom Cup hasn’t done jack-shit to help bring players through or anything. It’s glorified club rugby really. No point, and it just costs money.

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.11.11 10:38:24 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Yes that could work really well.

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.11.11 10:39:17 by Ben Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 14) : Somebody like Marcell Coetzee made a name for himself in the Vodacom Cup this year. And I’m sure there were many others. So I don’t agree with you that the Vodacom hasn’t done anything to bring players through.

    With a wider range of players it would not really help that much. Competition will be weaker and it wouldn’t be a fair proving ground if you get what I’m trying to say. And still can’t see how this would attract more interest?

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.11.11 10:44:30 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 16) : Its like extending the Currie Cup to 8 teams and then dividing all the Springboks between those 8 unions.

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.11.11 10:46:55 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 12) : Well at the moment the interest in the Vodacom Cup is about 50 people a game. I mean the final was played on the outside fields at Loftus one year..tells you everything! Every club has members and a following and thus there would be a much larger following for a National Club league than just the province “B” sides. I do like Rob’s idea of a Super Rugby Reserve league though but I would much rather go for a National Club league than that.

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.11.11 10:57:12 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 16) :

    You’re assuming that Marcell Coetzee would not have had opportunities had he not played in the Vodacom Cup.

    Playing club rugby wouldn’t have made him any worse of a player, and he was already part of their Super Rugby training group before even playing Vodacom Cup.

  • Comment 19, posted at 08.11.11 11:03:28 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) :I always wished they would make a u/19 and u/21 super 14 but now with the longer season I thougt some thing like a junior super rugby with the same age restrictions as the junior world championships.

  • Comment 20, posted at 08.11.11 22:36:14 by BR Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 19) : Sorry I’m only seeing your reply now. I’m not assuming he wouldn’t have had an opportunity to play SR or CC had he not played Vodacom Cup. I’m saying the Vodacom Cup was vital in getting him ready for bigger things imo.

  • Comment 21, posted at 08.11.11 22:44:20 by Ben Reply
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  • @beet: pote fourie was also tough as nail. He and jannie breedt did a straight swop across the jukskei in the 80′s( ie pote going to ntvl and breedt to tvl).
    When I think of pote human ,there is a match for fs vs ntvl that stands out in my memory.pote has the ball and is running at the fh channel(jip,naas),wildly swiping at naas( sulke wille woeste klappe na arme naas se kop toe!),and naas is turning this way and that way trying to get away from the klappe whilst running in reverse (and hus back half turned to a rampaging pote human).his brother sieg also played for ep.

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.11.11 23:51:13 by bergshark Reply

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  • Beet: pote human 1.96m 105 kg pote fourie 1.93m 105kg
    (Pote fourie made his provincial debut for tvl in 1980 and played for them until 1985).
    Pote human represented ep schools in ’76 and’77 (also made sa schools )but his provincial debut was for free state in ’79.
    Represented ep from’80_’88( 116 matches),and then joined free state.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.11.11 00:02:38 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet: you should know the name of another player that also represented ep schools in the period ’76_77 (he actually played in 75 also).also went to despatch hs?

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.11.11 00:09:24 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet: wasn’t too bad a centre..

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.11.11 00:10:43 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 25) : Oom Danie.

    Didn’t Pote Fourie play for Northern Transvaal?

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.11.11 08:01:56 by beet Reply
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  • I think the problem with the club rugby route would be that only the players from one club in the province would get exposure. The real problem with the Vodacom Cup is the time slot that the games are played in. If you have S15 games over the weekend, then the VC game is a inbetween snack.
    I agree with beet that if the time slot is moved to a Tue/Wed it might prove successful. The S15 reserve league sounds even better, but costs would increase hugely and any rugby union wants to cut costs to increase profit.
    The Vodacom Cup serves as the conditioning ground for players that might ber needed to step up. Often its said that a player is not match fit. The VC does just that for the S15 squad.

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.11.11 08:02:11 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 27) : The Vodacom Cup needs a serious overhaul if it is going to stay! Otherwise there will definitely be more people on the field than watching it! I dont think moving the timeslot to a week night would help to be honest as it will then compete with Varsity Cup and there will only be 1 winner there.

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.11.11 08:52:02 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @beet: yes ,see comment 22. He went to ntvl from tvl and jannie breedt joined tvl from ntvl.

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.11.11 16:25:29 by bergshark Reply

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