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Carstens likely to play for Stormers


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Stormers, Super Rugby on 9 Nov 2011 at 07:01
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Former Sharks prop Deon Carstens looks set to join the Stormers squad ahead of next year’s Super Rugby competition, with sources suggesting that the move will be announced by the WPRU later this morning.

Carstens, originally a product of the Western Cape, moved to Saracens in the UK at the end of the 2010 Super 14 after accumulating in excess of 160 caps for the Sharks in all competitions. He has since added around 30 appearances for the London club to his CV, to go with 9 test caps for the Springboks, starting against Scotland in 2002 . His last Bok appearance was against the British and Irish Lions in 2009.

At 32 years of age – and with the ability to pack down on either side of the scrums, although he is arguably far more effective at loosehead – Carstens appears to be close to the ideal type of player to add some experience the the Stormers front row options ahead of Super Rugby. With seasoned props like JD Moller and CJ van der Linde having left the franchise, while JC Kritzinger is a long-term injury casualty, the Stormers find themselves with a reasonably green-looking set of props outside likely starters Wicus Blaauw and Brock Harris.

Our understanding is that Carstens will be joining the Stormers on a loan basis and will return to Saracens after the 2012 Super Rugby competition has run its course; we are, however, waiting official confirmation of the terms of the deal.



30 Comments

  • Hopefully they play him on the loosehead side, ahead of Blaauw.

    Brok Harris not ideal but not nearly as bad as that one.

    Carstens & Harris starting, with Malherbe & Kitshoff rotating the bench spot would be ideal.

  • Comment 1, posted at 09.11.11 07:51:36 by hendrikp Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 1) :

    This is a good signing imho.

    I am sure he will add value especially as a mentor of some sorts to our young props!!

  • Comment 2, posted at 09.11.11 08:14:23 by wpw Reply
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  • 1 Carstens
    2 Liebenberg
    3 Brok

    Ja thats decent

  • Comment 3, posted at 09.11.11 08:25:06 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 2) :

    Agreed, sometimes need those older players to get the mindset right.

    Plus he’s a good player.

    Might be time they let go of Kritzinger as well! No point paying a guy who’s always injured, and it’s surely affected his development.

  • Comment 4, posted at 09.11.11 08:27:06 by hendrikp Reply

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  • They get rid of JD Moller to back youngsters and then bring in Carstens…is Strauli recruiting for WP now as well?? Are our young front row forwards really that bad in this country??

  • Comment 5, posted at 09.11.11 08:27:22 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 2) :

    Jeez the Stormers are just as desperate for props as the Sharks are for centres when you get excited about Carstens.

    I liked Carstens though. Good allround player but probably not the strongest at scrum time. True to Stormers tradition. :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 6, posted at 09.11.11 08:28:09 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 3) :

    I’m no fan of either of the Stormers hookers, but if I had to pick one, I’d go Deon Fourie and pray that he gets his line-out throwing right.

    Give Scarra Ntubeni a bit more game-time as well!

  • Comment 7, posted at 09.11.11 08:28:21 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) :

    Dude, he is a decent player and I think he could add value.

    There’s a HUGE difference between signing a 32 year old prop as opposed to a 32 year old centre!! :twisted:

  • Comment 8, posted at 09.11.11 08:39:37 by wpw Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 7) : Scharra got some time in the last super season did he not?Maybe it was just in the warmups, I’ve also said many a prayer about Deons lineout throwing and not one of them were answered.

  • Comment 9, posted at 09.11.11 08:40:27 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • This is good news for wp ,good signing

  • Comment 10, posted at 09.11.11 08:49:58 by Talent Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 3) : you guys need to drop brok if you are ever to cure your front row ailments.

  • Comment 11, posted at 09.11.11 08:51:17 by Talent Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 9) :

    Ntubeni played a little when Tiaan Liebenberg was injured (I think it was him). 32 minutes all up to be exact.

  • Comment 12, posted at 09.11.11 08:51:19 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 8) : :mrgreen: ;-)

  • Comment 13, posted at 09.11.11 08:52:45 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 11) :

    Brok not that bad. He holds his own. All you want from your tighthead is for him not to go backwards.

    It’s on the loosehead side where we struggle the most.

    Interesting fact:
    Stormers won 4 tightheads in 2011 Super Rugby.
    Only conceded 2 tightheads.

  • Comment 14, posted at 09.11.11 08:53:13 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 11) : Brok is overplayed.I don’t mind him that much, Malherbe will step up eventually but for now Brok is the guy.

    Everyone else in the team gets rested and rotated, Brok gets rotated to the looshead in the last 20 minutes of a game, how he doesnt break down more often in beyond me.

  • Comment 15, posted at 09.11.11 08:54:53 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 14) : really ,he may hold his own against lesser scrumagers but vs the crusaders is where it counts,thats why you guys lost that game ultimately.

    @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 15) : Ya perhaps he is overplayed .

  • Comment 16, posted at 09.11.11 08:58:44 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 16) :

    Front-row as a unit. It’s not all about Brok, who doesn’t get overpowered as much.

    Whole point as a tighthead is to be rock solid. Then have a powerful loosehead who puts the pressure on.

    Blaauw so bad he even has Owen Franks breaking his back.

  • Comment 17, posted at 09.11.11 09:04:32 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 17) : loosehead is probably the more technical position whereas tighthead you need more rigidness and strength ,often looseheads that scrum in do so because they are being seperated from their hooker so I supose looseheads also need a fair deal of strength -an as much as it is a combined effort from the front row and locks having one weak player can cause huge problems in a scrum.

  • Comment 18, posted at 09.11.11 09:14:39 by Talent Reply
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  • Very much an artform

  • Comment 19, posted at 09.11.11 09:16:01 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 16) : Check out the images of the Stormers scrum against the Crusaders, the entire pack packed loose, Wicus was arching is back pretending he was a McDonalds sign, it was a shambles, can hardly blame Brok.

  • Comment 20, posted at 09.11.11 09:29:06 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • @Clayton(PJLD) (Comment 20) :

    Hit the nail on the head.

  • Comment 21, posted at 09.11.11 09:33:39 by hendrikp Reply

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  • no you can blambe brock …along with the rest of the scrum . I see what you mean though

  • Comment 22, posted at 09.11.11 09:51:16 by Talent Reply
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  • Tell you what, I reckon proudfoot is turning brok into a pretty decent 3… Remember he’s still young.

    Not all props are as good as herbst at such a young age

  • Comment 23, posted at 09.11.11 10:41:52 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : If he has time on his side he may develop into a good scrumager but for how long do you put up with scrums such as those in the s15 saders/stormers game?

    Also I would be very cautious tinkering with a front row, its more about getting to know your other units and how they scrum .

  • Comment 24, posted at 09.11.11 11:48:31 by Talent Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 8) :Just you watch, the deadly pairing of Meyer Bosman and Marius Joubert will strike fear into the hearts of any opposition….oh who am i kidding :roll:

  • Comment 25, posted at 09.11.11 15:11:58 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 25) : I dare say that a 10 – Michalak, 12 – Lambie, 13 – Adi combination may cause some concern. :wink:

  • Comment 26, posted at 09.11.11 20:01:29 by Dancing Bear Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : you bin scarce, boss!

  • Comment 27, posted at 09.11.11 21:00:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : Damn Uncle! Come out, come out, wherever you are!

  • Comment 28, posted at 09.11.11 21:44:47 by Ben Reply
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  • @Dancing Bear (Comment 26) : he,s Alive, how’s db been, missed you!

  • Comment 29, posted at 09.11.11 21:48:38 by Franshark Reply
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  • The Stormers need all the big forwards they can get.

    Now The Sharks just need to hunt around for a backline coach…. :???:

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.11.11 16:33:26 by Predawn Reply

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