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Super Rugby 2012: An Optimistic Approach


Written by Pierre Teich (Original Pierre)

Posted in :Bulls, Cheetahs, Lions, Original Content, Reader Submissions, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 17 Jan 2012 at 11:46
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Super Rugby is almost upon us and along with the pre-season jitters, on my part, comes the inevitable speculation: How will the Sharks go this time around?

In 2011 I had to learn the hard way that making super 15 predictions is not just tricky but a veritable lottery. Teams I expected to go all the way fell by the wayside and teams I tipped as “ just a season away” made it big.

After all the disappointments I suffered as a sharks supporter last year I am determined to keep my expectations very realistic this year. Having said that, if you cast your eye on the fixture list it does seem as if the rugby gods smiled on us for a change. The most encouraging news is that we`ll only face the Crusaders in the play off stage, if we both get there, and we host the all conquering Reds in the Shark Tank! Positive indeed.

The first step to Super 15 success is of course to top your national conference and I believe this is not impossible. We finished second in the Currie Cup last year, only losing out to the Lions who probably won`t pose the same kind of threat at Super Rugby level. Remember the key to Super Rugby success is depth in crucial positions, something the Lions might lack. The Bulls will field a very young side and we had their number in 2011 already. While we can`t dismiss their chances off-hand they`ll have a huge mountain to climb without their Bok stalwarts.

Free State Cheetahs will pose a bigger challenge this year but they will have to overcome a huge challenge in Christchurch as well as possible depth problems. Remember they won`t have the services of Sarel Pretorius and Riaan Viljoen this year. This brings me to our biggest competition for that coveted top spot in our conference, the Stormers.

While they certainly have no shortage of quality pivots the departure of Francois Louw could be problematic for them. Schalk Burger will have to take over as fetcher which could lead to a lot of penalties against them. Will their defense be as rock solid this year without the organizational skills of Jaque Fourie? In Juan de Jongh and Jean de Villiers they have the best “ starting “ centre combination in South Africa. How will Allister manage them though? I don`t have to stress the fact that this is a long tough competition and rotation will be the key to success . . . or failure.

In comparison the future looks bright for the Sharks. We have the much needed depth in most positions, a relatively favorable draw and experienced players where it counts. Through careful management and clever team selection this is looking increasingly more achievable.

Injuries will come, but if something should happen to our star flyhalf this year we have the experienced Fred Michalak to step in and steady the ship. Who knows, coach Plumtree might just surprise all of us by giving Tim Whitehead some game time! Bismarck du Plessis will gain a lot of confidence from his new appointment as vice captain and with all the game time he can handle, look for him to be a real thorn in the opponents side!

In short, Shark supporters have reason to be optimistic as long as the team selection issues gets sorted out early on.

Lets make 2012 count.



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  • 1. Schalk won’t become some sort of penalty machine with the departure of Flo. All it means is they’ll have lost someone who helps make up numbers at the rucks – drawing players in and so forth – and that they’ll have to focus more on making first up tackles this time around if they’re to keep up the good defensive record.

    2. Reckon the Bulls will have easily the best centre pairing in SA 2012. Much as it hurts me to say it :mrgreen:

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.01.12 12:07:55 by hendrikp Reply
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  • My predictions for 2012

    1.Willem Albrets/Jean Deysel will play at 4 some time this season -jan andre will get his shot but will only really come into his own next year ,however will make huge strides forward in super rugby. In my personal opinion he may turn out to be a good line out option as a 5 lock ala Johan Muller.

    2.Pat Lambie will need to be looked after this year and managed correctly .I also think he will spend time at 12(with Jordaan at 10-which may see us use a bigger openside such as coetzee just to cover that channel)

    3.Depth wont be a problem even at lock .

    4.Expect to see ;
    -4.Deysel
    -5.Skeate
    -6.Coetzee
    -7.Alberts
    -8.Kankowski ….at some stage :roll: plum just cant resist.

    5.Meyer Bosman will have a huge season up untill he gets injured :| and as said ealier lambie will move to 12 or even whithead.

    6.Whithead will force his way into the side after injury allows him to play and then shine.

    Go Sharks put super rugby oponents to the sword

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.01.12 12:13:44 by Talent Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 1) : jdv jdj will be good

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.01.12 12:14:57 by Talent Reply
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  • I’ll wait and see how we do on the park before believing anything on paper. :)

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.01.12 12:26:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Talent: wanna see energy out there on the field..!
    hard-tackling from 1-22.
    Support play and excellent handling.

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.01.12 12:37:10 by bergshark Reply

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  • i Agree . on paper the sharks have the best chance to achieve something . Good dept .

    But i think it will be a mistake to write of the Lions . Sure we will be tested . but no reason why we cant pass that test . Mitch is busy sorting things out . im confident he is doing the right thing and the Lions can go onwards and upwards !!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.01.12 12:39:05 by Zibbie Reply
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  • We gonna have a cracker, lambi at 10 and fredie at 9….

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.01.12 12:39:31 by Franshark Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 1) :

    With or without Meisiekind?

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.01.12 12:40:23 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Game plans and strategies are a major facture, here’s hoping that the brains trust gets it right this year.

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.01.12 12:40:44 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 2) :

    I’m willing to put money on it that Plum won’t go with Deysel at 4 again this season, it was an experiment that let the side down, and we have some super talented locks that can step in.

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.01.12 12:41:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Sports Illustrated picks us to finish 2nd overall, Saders in 1st spot.

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.01.12 12:43:00 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 6) : You guys will be in the top 3 of the SA conference IMO.

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.01.12 12:43:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Conference is probably the most open of the three.

    Have the Sharks got the backs to challenge for the Silverware?

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.01.12 12:49:40 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) :

    TBH i would be over the moon with that .. if we manage it .

    Cheetahs first up for the Lions . Going to be a cracker !!!

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.01.12 12:56:04 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 13) : maybe 2 :lol:

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.01.12 13:00:02 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 13) : How do you rate your team for this year?

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.01.12 13:03:54 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 16) :

    Have been down a bit to watch them …. they should be better than last year….. have some firepower in the backs which is something new for us!

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.01.12 13:05:44 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @HH: where do the sharks play the highlanders?

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.01.12 13:08:17 by bergshark Reply

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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 17) : I had a look at the squad and I have to agree, 3rd in your conference then :wink:

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.01.12 13:09:47 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 19) :

    haha 3rd in the Conference but 6th overall! ;-)

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.01.12 13:13:28 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 18) :

    I think so in Durban! :???:

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.01.12 13:14:54 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 8) :

    With.

    You lot are way too harsh on him. He’s a damn good SR player, at the very least.

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.01.12 13:17:35 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 22) :

    Not the best for Springbok selection, but when it comes to Super Rugby or Currie Cup, he seems to always up his game..

    Who should partner him, and which side of him should he play?

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.01.12 13:42:08 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 23) :

    hence why the bulls dominated the CC ;)

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.01.12 13:44:18 by Zibbie Reply
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  • 4,9,12,13
    That is what will make or break the sharks.

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.01.12 13:49:52 by King Shark Reply
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  • @King Shark (Comment 25) :

    I agree with you..

    I do think that with a rotation policy set up amongst the centres, things will be better. If Whitehead and Jordaan get game time, and Bosman can hit some of his previous Cheetahs form, it will be solid.

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.01.12 13:59:11 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • My starting 15. Please comment
    1.Beast
    2.bussy
    3.jannie
    4.Jan andre
    5.skeate
    6.coetzee
    7.Alberts
    8.captin keegs

    9.charl
    10.freddy
    11.Mvovo
    12.R Viljoen
    13.Some one with real pace
    14.JP
    15.Lambie

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.01.12 14:00:47 by Jakes 08 Reply

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  • @Jakes 08 (Comment 27) : I don’t necessarily agree with all your selections, but I like your 13. Not sure who it will be though. One thing I do know is that Marius Joubert has the same blistering turn of pace as Wahl Bartman, so as long as it’s not him I’d be happy.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.01.12 14:06:55 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 23) :

    It’ll be Sadie, who will then go on to play for the Boks, guaranteed!

    Olivier & Sadie combination will be freakish good. Won’t be surprised if people start calling for Wynand to play for the Boks again now that he’s got a good attacking centre outside him.

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.01.12 14:20:26 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 29) :

    What are your thoughts on that Venter chap, will he be able to step up for Super Rugby?

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.01.12 14:22:36 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 28) : :lol:

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.01.12 14:26:43 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Jakes 08 (Comment 27) :

    I like the idea of Marais at 4. The Sharks need someone ‘bigger’ in the middle. Not sure he’s done enough to warrant it though… but one I’d be hoping comes to fruition.

    The loose-trio is a no-no. Say what you want about Kanko, he’s still a heck of a link man who is crucial to the Sharks attacking game. Wouldn’t look past him.

    The backline you got there also scares me a bit. Freddy proven himself a bit too erratic to play anywhere else but in France (in the 10 position). Where they play Lambie now is a career decision, so I think it needs to be 10.

    Then Riaan Viljoen also a very good fullback… not a great defender, and not great in traffic, so 12 would be one of the worst positions you could play him in!

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.01.12 14:27:24 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 30) :

    Bit I saw of him in the CC (only a bit, got fed-up with watching poor quality online feeds), and during the SA U20 World Champs, I would say…

    Hell yes.

    If he’d been anywhere else besides Pretoria or Cape Town, he’d be starting no doubt… but the Bulls have been smart about it in having really good back-ups (like Venter… or Wilhelm Steenkamp at lock, Jano Vermaak at 9 etc.) and having a smaller roster to afford these guys.

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.01.12 14:31:53 by hendrikp Reply

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  • I have missed most of this conversation, but let me just say this… Ryan Kankowski on form is absolutely vital to the type of game the Sharks need to play in order to win this competition. We are NOT going to get very far using a Deysel-Alberts combo to bash away all day.

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.01.12 14:33:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    Nope, you would definitely not get very far.

    I like the idea of Marcell Coetzee ahead of Deysel though, who imo is up there with Stegmann, Potgieter & Spies (yeah, the Bulls loose-trio :lol: ) as overrated loosies.

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.01.12 14:37:34 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 33) :

    Cool, thanks!

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.01.12 14:37:39 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 29) :

    well if he plays one game for the boks and gets destroyed he would have played for the boks and you would have been right …

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.01.12 14:37:51 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) :

    He showed some good form late during last year, so we need some more of that!

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.01.12 14:38:37 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 34) : Ryan Kankowski on form is a matchwinner, but Keegan Daniel has played some of his best football at 8. *sigh* I just wish we had a bit more quality backup at 6.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.01.12 14:39:12 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 37) :

    And he still would’ve been selected… (I assume you’re talking about Sadie)

    Anyway, I wasn’t meaning one game. I’d be surprised if he isn’t our centre of choice over the next 4 years, especially if Meyer becomes coach.

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.01.12 14:42:13 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 39) :

    Should’ve made Brussow an offer he couldn’t refuse :mrgreen:

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.01.12 14:42:51 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 10) : money?? its a long season
    @bergshark (Comment 5) : agreed man
    @hendrikp (Comment 35) :Once Ive won money from Fergie ill place down a bet to say that at the end of the season Deysel will make you swollow those words.
    @Culling Song (Comment 39) : Maybe have a look at Coetzee @ 6 .

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.01.12 14:44:59 by Talent Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 40) :

    im thinking percentages wise at least one of Goosen or Sadie wont make it at the top Level

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.01.12 14:47:39 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 42) :

    Thing I find funniest is talk of Deysel being given the job of ‘fetcher’.

    Being good on the ground isn’t something you can just ask of a player. He’s not quick enough, and doesn’t instinctively play towards the ball. He’d be a headless chicken if they asked him to try play that role.

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.01.12 14:48:22 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 43) :

    :roll:

    Maybe those percentages should include a wider range of players (like Jantjies)…

    And maybe Jantjies will be the one who doesn’t make it :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.01.12 14:51:15 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 30) :

    Venter is going to be a very good inside center and has all the attributes to be a real force in superrugby this season. I think Wynand will interchange between 12 and 13. I think the frontline choice will be Venter at 12 with Olivier at 13 and then Sadie and Olivier changing around.

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.01.12 14:53:32 by Pat Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 45) :

    nope wrong player :P try again . Would rather have lambie at 10 then Elton .

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.01.12 14:56:09 by Zibbie Reply
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  • true kanko on form is unstopable, but lets hope he finds that form again this season. i think having a good 12 is vital to our campain. u need someone that is an extension to the 10,that can think on his feet,create gaps and can kick. so we can play a more open game and score from all over the park like in 2010

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.01.12 14:56:19 by Jakes 08 Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 44) : People don’t give Deysel enough credit. But I agree to some extent, If I were coach I would divide the duties among the loose forwards. What I’m trying to say is that the Sharks can work around not having an out and out fetch, let Deysel and Bismarck try poach whatever ball they can while having Kanko and Daniel try hit the rucks first and try be the ones to make the tackle first.

    Looking at Flouw the new interpretation of the breakdown suited him, he didn’t have to keep up with a true out and out fetch, someone else could make the tackle and he would take the ball-and obstruct and make life difficult for the opposition at the breakdown.

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.01.12 14:59:35 by Talent Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 45) :

    like i said atleast 20 times . im back Taute to make it to the boks IF and ONLY IF he has a good SR season .

    thats why im thinking other players should also first prove themselves ..

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 28) : marius joubert has been “reconditioned” twice over, he is like a souped up Ford Cortina! :lol:

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.01.12 15:07:50 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 49) :

    Bud, being a successful openside isn’t about poaching. People have become so lost in the ‘stealing of the ball’ thing that they’ve completely forgotten about the work these guys get through.

    The top opensides don’t even break double figures for steals in Super Rugby. I’d happily trade the player in for a top-notch ball-carrier if all I could get was a handful of turn-overs a season.

    I’m talking about being quick in support of a ball-carrier, extremely strong over the ball when cleaning out on offense, and drawing in numerous opposition players to clear out their own ball when on defense.

    It really is a specialist position… one that Daniel might not be very good at, but he’s still the best at the Sharks. One that players like Deysel, Coetzee and co. would be terrible at.

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.01.12 15:08:59 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 44) : they did last year and he leaked penalties endlessly for diving/falling over the ruck & not supporting his own body weight. deysel generally is most thing but he is not an intelligent player.

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.01.12 15:11:35 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : :lol:

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.01.12 15:11:41 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 49) : deysel will not and has never been as industrious as the likes of mccaw who hit 40+ rucks, slowing down opposition ball or cleanly stealing 3 balls on average.

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.01.12 15:23:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 52) :” I’m talking about being quick in support of a ball-carrier, extremely strong over the ball when cleaning out on offense, and drawing in numerous opposition players to clear out their own ball when on defense.” -every player should do this??!

    And I agree with what you said about people becoming fixated on the ball poaching-which leads me to question Flouws inclusion in the bok setup at world cup.

    Hendrikp ,we never see eye to eye . I think based on what you have said Coetzee would make a good openside becuase he is quick ,big and tackles well.

    In my mind a fetch is Brussouw and an openside is some one like Schalk.

    Oh and I never said Deysel would be my openside ,just that the traditional roles didnt have to be one players responsibility . What I was saying is that we could put together a loose forward trio that ticks all the boxes-having deysel at either 8 or 7 and daniels at 6.

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  • I think the Sharks have the squad to do well BUT it is largely going to be dependant on a couple of factors…..actually only one factor….John Plumtree.

    Things that WILL derail the Sharks this year

    Continuing to start with players who don’t perform…..
    Playing Hargreaves and Skeate in tandem…..
    Playing the same shitty ‘give the ball to Alberts/Deysel’ gameplan…
    Playing Pat anywhere else but 10……

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.01.12 15:32:52 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 55) : you all got me wrong…Morons :roll: :grin:

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  • by the way
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  • Comment 59, posted at 17.01.12 15:34:26 by Talent Reply
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  • Let’s also just calm down with all the hating on Deysel. He has always been an incredibly effective weapon for us when used to his strengths… that means playing as a ball-carrying option in the number 7 jersey. My issue is not with Deysel himself, but with the combination of Deysel and Alberts as they are too similar. It’s the one or the other, for me and there are more than enough games to give them both lots of game time.

    What it means, to me, is that we rotate Hoff and Mtembu at 8, Deysel and Alberts at 7 and Daniel and Botes at 6 (primarily) with Marcell the most obvious choice for 19 most weeks, since he can play any of the three

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  • @Talent (Comment 56) :

    Fair enough. I assumed by your earlier post that you wanted Daniel out – Coetzee in.

    I never wanted Flo at the WC personally. I reckon he’s a terrible ‘specialist’ openside. He would’ve been an ideal blindside flanker somewhere.

    My opinion was Burger would’ve been able to do a job there if needed… and when Flo did eventually came on against Australia he was no good.

    I’d have taken Ashley Johnson. 1. Because I rate him as a strong ball-carrier 2. Because the players ahead of him would’ve meant him being an impact player at the very most, something I think he would’ve been excellent at. 3. Something I can’t discuss because of certain rules :mrgreen:

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.01.12 15:38:37 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 61) : agreed, AJ would make a good 6 .

  • Comment 62, posted at 17.01.12 15:46:49 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 62) :

    No, not what I was saying :mrgreen: He’d make a terrible 6.

    He’s a 7… but maybe too short to ever be a long-term option for the Springboks.

    Can cover 8.

    And would make a very good bench option (probably his best position he could take up at the Boks) if Willem Alberts was starting.

  • Comment 63, posted at 17.01.12 15:49:00 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 63) : this Talent oke is just confused :lol:

    johnson @ 6? bwahahahahaha :shock:

  • Comment 64, posted at 17.01.12 15:56:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • hey hey hey ,its my opinion -he wouldnt be bad at 6 ,right body shape

  • Comment 65, posted at 17.01.12 15:59:17 by Talent Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 63) : a guy like dusatoir is not a fetcher, nor are bonnaire & harinodoquy, so how do france get around this “balance” of the loose trio?

  • Comment 66, posted at 17.01.12 15:59:47 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 64) : I cant remember but didnt megatron get killed?

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  • @Megatron (Comment 66) : dam good point ,but to be fair they only played two good games at the world cup. Maybe Jake White had some substance behind his views on a fetch

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  • @Talent (Comment 65) : stop while you’re behind ;-)

  • Comment 69, posted at 17.01.12 16:02:36 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : refer to comment 67

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  • @Jakes 08 (Comment 27) : I tried to stay away from team selections here since I know it`s a contentious issue.

    All of us here have an opinion of what the team should look like but the reality is John Plumtree will probably stick with the tried and tested.

  • Comment 71, posted at 17.01.12 16:05:26 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 70) : were you a bully @ school? you seem to have an inability to take jibes :cool: :razz:

  • Comment 72, posted at 17.01.12 16:09:09 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 68) : over the past three years the french have beaten the Boks, All Blacks and been Six Nations champs playing Dusatoir, Bonnaire & Harinodoquy, their world cup “form” is inconsequential.

  • Comment 73, posted at 17.01.12 16:14:53 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : When used correctly, Wolla can be devastating. He certainly has the potential and ability to be a superb player, BUT he will need to learn to run onto the ball and run into space. It’s frustrating the hell out of me watching him continuously receiving the ball in a static position, or sidestepping the gap to barge into someone so that he can demonstrate his “Me Hulk! Me swat puny humans!” one-handed hand-off…

  • Comment 74, posted at 17.01.12 16:21:37 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 51) : And like a Cortina he should be put up on blocks in someone’s back yard… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 75, posted at 17.01.12 16:22:37 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 60) : are you suggesting that deysel is too one-dimensional to play the openside role Talent is suggesting he can play?

  • Comment 76, posted at 17.01.12 16:40:55 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Jakes 08 (Comment 48) : is that just an avatar or are you from justsharks?

  • Comment 77, posted at 17.01.12 16:41:39 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 74) : the last part of your post, refer to my comment #53 :D :cry:

  • Comment 78, posted at 17.01.12 16:43:19 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 76) : no – the reason he can’t play openside is because he’s too slow

  • Comment 79, posted at 17.01.12 17:50:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 76) : please copy and paste where I said he can play openside ,ie 6 instead of keegan and in tandem with another blindside ??I didnt

  • Comment 80, posted at 17.01.12 19:56:00 by Talent Reply
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