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Beast out for 3 months – UPDATED


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 27 Jan 2012 at 16:30
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The Sharks Super Rugby preparations suffered a major setback this morning after a serious injury looks set to sideline prop Beast Mtawarira

The Bok loosehead suffered a lower leg fracture in a freak training injury and may be on the sidelines for up to 12 weeks as a result, according to our information.

The Sharks will now be forced to dig deep and back Dale Chadwick to start at loosehead, after Eugene van Staden was released to join Biarritz. Jannie du Plessis now stands alone as the only international prop in a squad that was once overflowing with them.

We’d like to wish Beast the speediest possible recovery.

UPDATE: Sharks team doctor Ewoudt van der Linde has confirmed that Beast suffered a broken ankle yesterday morning.



118 Comments

  • Damn it. Not the end of the world, but pretty bad news for us. Get well soon Beast!

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.01.12 16:36:35 by PTAShark Reply
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  • Eish!

    Now there’s a bit of sweating to do. :sad:

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.01.12 16:42:17 by beet Reply
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  • FOOOOOK that sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is the time for the youngsters to step up and stake their claims for the future.

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.01.12 16:56:32 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • this is bad news, recover well Beast, we will fight on…..

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.01.12 17:22:22 by Franshark Reply
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  • Ok someone is determined to ruin my day today :evil:

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.01.12 17:23:30 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • yes now the bulls scrum will not turbo reverse like last year :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.01.12 17:24:10 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 5) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.01.12 17:25:22 by Muzi Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 2) : Who will replace the beast now ?

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.01.12 17:26:48 by Muzi Reply

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  • My mom will be gutted. She loves Beast. I am gutted. I love Beast. :cry:

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.01.12 17:29:53 by SharonvanWyk Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 6) : that is not all together true ;) Chadwick is a really good scrummager its only in the ball carrying and workrate that Beast trounces Dale based on last year – hopefully he has worked on these two issues :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.01.12 17:30:09 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 10) : Na…me thinks Werner Kruger and Dean Wors :smile: Greyling must be happy.

    The front row of Jannie,Smit and Beast taught us a good lesson last year.

    Without a doubt after the heyneke meyer soap operah i’m :grin:

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.01.12 17:34:36 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 11) : I’m glad its a little good news for you :) as for me :cry: I simply love Beast!

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.01.12 17:37:39 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Balls

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.01.12 17:40:50 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 12) : dale chadwick will do a great job ;-) ….oh boy you guys let van staaden leave :smile:

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.01.12 17:42:06 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 14) : yeah talk about timing :( its Dale’s chance now, hopefully he takes it.

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.01.12 17:47:23 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • How hard are the boys traing, third training injury….?

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.01.12 17:55:13 by juba_fan Reply

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  • Damn! I really felt that Beast was primed for an awesome season after some injuries and poor selection treatment by provincial and Bok coaches.

    Let’s hope the initial diagnosis is an exaggeration.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.01.12 17:56:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • What’s Barra Mthetwa doin these days?…he is a solid loose head Prop…scrums well, carries well and mobile too.

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.01.12 18:03:57 by JJR Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 8) : I think the Sharks can go at this 2 ways. Either bring in the relatively inexperienced Chadwick to start at loosehead or shift Jannie to left side and play Wiehahn Herbst at TH. Wiehahn’s struck me as a versatile prop so packing him down at no. 1 is also an option in a crisis.

    All ways and all combos, we’re now very dependent on youngsters since we’ve not only lost Eugene, we’ve lost Smit as well who wud have been an obvious goto man in a situ like this.

    BTW Julian Redelinghuys of Monnas is now our 4th choice prop.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.01.12 18:05:19 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 19) : Jannie might indeed have to do duty at 1 now…Herbst is probably the best scrummaging Tighthead prop i have seen in a while. I was worried when Van Staden was linked to Biaritz; but now it’s even worse, he’s gone and Beast out for a Huge part of our Season…Eish!

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.01.12 18:09:59 by JJR Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 11) : You are happy because a guy broke his leg? I honestly expected better from you.

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.01.12 18:13:10 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 21) : He’s a Bull…what else would we expect…it’s unfortunate.

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.01.12 18:15:57 by JJR Reply
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  • back our youth stuctures

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.01.12 18:19:58 by Talent Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 21) : c’mon i am just happy we do not have to scrum against a bok prop i rate the beast like i said he drilled us last year in thge scrums.

    Some people need to chill.

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.01.12 18:21:44 by Muzi Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 21) : I did not mean it that way.

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.01.12 18:22:22 by Muzi Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 22) : Sometimes fans don’t see players as people. That is a little sad.

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.01.12 18:24:44 by war1 Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 22) :And so what if i am a bulls supporter.

    And for your own information sir it’s not as if i logged on and wrote “yessss the beast broke his leg yes yes now the bulls will win”

    omg….enough said

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.01.12 18:26:07 by Muzi Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 19) : Thanks sir i would go for Herbst that boy from klerksdorp can scrum.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.01.12 18:28:51 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 27) : Do you think smiley faces are appropriate then?

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.01.12 18:29:17 by war1 Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 21) : geepes what is wrong with Sharks supporters these last two days, we know Muzi better than that! Maybe we should all just chill a bit. I think this Bok appointment is making us all a bit too sensitive ;)

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.01.12 18:34:57 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 29) : ok look i was out of line sorry with the faces.

    But in no certain terms was i happy about the best breaking his leg.

    Like i said i was just relieved we did not have to face the big guy.

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.01.12 18:35:03 by Muzi Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 19) : thank you Beet geepes I have completely last it! Totally forgot about Herbst – don’t know how I could :oops:

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.01.12 18:37:40 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 30) : Thanks by the way.

    I did not say i was happy because the beast broke his leg.

    He is a great player i like the beast BUT to go down that road and gloat about his broken leg.

    No ways i would never say that.

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.01.12 18:37:55 by Muzi Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 31) : Ok, I hear you. I really feel for players who get injured like this, no matter who they play for. We can just hope Beast recovers quickly.

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.01.12 18:41:48 by war1 Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 30) : Ha ha. I am actually quite happy with Heyneke as coach.

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.01.12 18:43:26 by war1 Reply
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  • Beet will you be going to any of the Maritzburg College’s matches this year? My boy has just started at College this year, and planning to catch most of their matches. Which players in the College 1sts should I look out for in ur opinion?

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.01.12 18:43:42 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Got plans tonight looks like my comments about the beast have made some supporters abit unhappy. :cry:

    Guys i’m sorry hope everything is good.

    See ya fellas next week

    Have a great weekend !

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.01.12 18:44:59 by Muzi Reply

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  • @war1 (Comment 35) : :lol: as a coach I am also happy, just worried that his selections will be blue biased.

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.01.12 18:45:59 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 37) : cheers Muzi haVe a great weekend:)

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.01.12 18:47:50 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Muzi (Comment 37) : No hard feelings from my side. Just pointed out the other side of the story. Enjoy your weekend.

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.01.12 18:49:30 by war1 Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 38) : There is a nagging fear of that in my mind too but I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt.

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.01.12 18:52:09 by war1 Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 37) : If its of any meaning…I knew what and how u meant it! :wink:

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.01.12 18:53:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Muzi (Comment 27) : I replied to WAR1 not MUZI; Pity that a bit of sarcasm can not be read…Anyways i know u didn’t mean it in a bad way…i was just rubbing in WAR1′s comment :smile: ;-)

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.01.12 18:55:17 by JJR Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 41) : you are right of course! Ill probably be the one singing his praises in a few months :)

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.01.12 18:56:49 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • The wonderful tricks one can learn from studying psychology :lol:

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.01.12 18:59:00 by JJR Reply
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  • Get back soon Beast, we will miss you. :(

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.01.12 18:59:09 by LordHope Reply

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  • Sheez!! 3ou’d think on a Friday afternoon evening, Shark supporters would be mellow and chilled.

    poor Muzi is gonna feel victimized soon. Let’s give him a break and nail him after we club the calves in round 1.

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.01.12 19:00:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 45) : Yeah…the psychologist is normally the madest hatter! :lol:

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.01.12 19:02:57 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 47) : :lol: @Ice (Comment 48) : Don’t i know it :smile:

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.01.12 19:04:22 by JJR Reply
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  • Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, but he will be ready for the Boks and that’s all that matters

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.01.12 19:42:51 by Mutley Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 50) : to you maybe… :) But didn’t you get the memo? The Bok loosheads are Dean Greyling and Morne Mellet :)

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.01.12 19:59:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • The engine room is getting thinner and thinner by the day.
    Alberts,Deysel,Beast.
    Will we be able to match teams in the physical department.
    Don’t see Skeate and Hargreaves standing up and be coiunted in this dept, nor Kanko or Keagan.

    What a pitty about Beast, but we need grunt up front.
    Who will provide?

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.01.12 19:59:52 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 52) : CRAIG THE INCREDIBLE HULK BURDEN

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.01.12 20:00:22 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 52) : Sykes of course!

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.01.12 20:01:47 by war1 Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 52) : And Bissie.

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.01.12 20:02:15 by war1 Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 36) : I’ve been meaning to ask you how your son is doing.

    Yes I’ll definitely be going to some of College’s games. The highlight for me will be the Reunion Day game vs my old school Kearsney. Reunion Days at College are really special. Your son is going to find out about it and how he somehow like just about every other College player finds it in him to play extra well on the occasion.

    If you google Maritzburg College fixtures 2012, you’ll see I’ve already posted their fixtures online.

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.01.12 20:02:28 by beet Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 53) : Where will he play Rob, from the bench as impact at 6 or 7?

    Just feel that we short on Grunt, hope I am wrong.

    Rob, do you think Paul Jordaan and Whitehead will get a chance together or not?

    Who will be front runners for locks? Sykes and Skeate?

  • Comment 57, posted at 27.01.12 20:08:50 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 36) : I think College have a potentially really good backline. You know the Kriels coz you told me about their younger bro. I think Daniel has the ability to follow in Pat Howard and Tyler Fisher’s footsteps – he should be aiming that high coz on his day he is that good.

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.01.12 20:13:11 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 56) : hi Beet he is doing well thank you he has been attending Reed rugga which is a skills training program @ Merchiston to try and keep in touch with the game as he was not allowed to play last year, which puts him at a disadvantage this year – they are now starting the program at College so he will carry on with it till trials and afterwards. He has been keeping fit with atheletics and now at College he is doing water Polo which he is enjoying and going very well and also doing lots for his fitness, treading water from 14:00 to 17:00 is seeing to that, its his tackling and match situation which worries me as he has not been able to play for 1 year. He was a really good little flanker, let’s hope he can pick up where he left off – actually I just hope that one day u will b writing about my young man :)
    Thank you will go to google the fixtures immediatelly!

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.01.12 20:25:33 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 58) : yes I know baby Kriel (as they call him) and he was also a very good player in the Merchiston 1sts the elder Kriels I know by rep only :) . Really looking forward to seeing them!

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.01.12 20:29:35 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 59) : Thanks for the feedback. The important thing is that your son is enjoying his experience. College has a special place in my heart – we regarded them as the benchmark of rugby excellence when I was at school.

    I must also tell you that last year I met a genuinely nice guy parent at College. His son was in and out of the 1st team during the season. He told me that when his son started out at College, he was in the u14D team. So just goes to show that anything is possible for the youngster who’s prepared to work hard and never give up.

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.01.12 20:43:32 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 61) : thanks for that Beet! He certainly is loving College, he has even decked his room in black red and white :)

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.01.12 21:32:00 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 57) : Why would Burden play 6 or 7?

    We have
    Daniel
    Kankowski
    Deysel
    Alberts
    Coetzee
    Botes

    And now you want to add Burden??

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.01.12 22:07:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Really bad news this. Why are our players getting such serious injuries before the S15 starts?…. :roll: We starting to look thin in the front row. Some youngsters will have to step up.

    Get well Beast. You will be missed.

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.01.12 23:40:36 by Puma Reply

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  • Only good thing from Beast’s injury, is this is such a very long season and we will need him in the latter part of this series. Just keeping fingers crossed he will be ready to start then.

    To be honest we needed Beast to start from the start of S15. Why players are getting injured before the S15 starts is just plain daft.

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.01.12 23:49:44 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 65) :

    I’m quite sure they do not plan their injuries.

    The guys are all super keen to get the season underway, it must just be pure bad luck to pick up an injury now

  • Comment 66, posted at 28.01.12 07:51:32 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Really bad news :sad:

  • Comment 67, posted at 28.01.12 07:59:38 by JarsonX Reply
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  • It’s easy at a stage like this to bemoan the loss of Eugene van Staden. However, lots of us have been complaining about the lack of opportunities afforded the youngsters; time to step up to the plate and throw our full support behind the young ‘uns! I, for one, will be super-pissed if I suddenly saw a hasty prop-buying spree taking place.

  • Comment 68, posted at 28.01.12 08:05:15 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) :

    Couldn’t agree more!

  • Comment 69, posted at 28.01.12 08:09:58 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) : Spot on with that comment.

  • Comment 70, posted at 28.01.12 08:39:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 65) : My feeling is that these so called “long seasons” didn’t just start last year with the intro of the expanded S15. For many years our top guys have been asked to deliver the goods from March until the end of November. Our internationals have played >30 games in 52 weeks just about every year. During this time they also often have to take part in at least 1 midweek heavy match simulation training day, which altho precautions are taken, effectively increases the risk of picking up injury by up to as much as 50%.

    In an intense contact sport like rugby, injuries are inevitable. I wanna say that props who are the most susceptible to injury coz of the extreme pressure of the scrum and the functions they are often required to perform at rucks but there’s been enough evidence to suggest that it doesn’t matter who you are, where you play, how well conditioned you are, how old or young you are, there is no discrimination when it comes to picking up injuries both the short-term and long term kinds.

    What’s frustrating for me about the Beast’s injury is not only the obvious – that it’s happened in the offseason in a training session – but also that the Bok players are coming off one of their longer rest periods due to their not being a November Euro tour last year.

    Injuries are part and parcel of rugby. Although losing the Beast is a big setback to the start of the campaign, in a way I’m relieved that he’s only out for only 3 months. It could have been far worse.

    Like you say hopefully the Beast can come back and play a big role later in the tournament.

  • Comment 71, posted at 28.01.12 08:52:13 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 71) :

    I think that’s a fair summary.

    Chadwick will literally have to pull up his socks and step up. Looking forward to seeing the talent pool grow..

  • Comment 72, posted at 28.01.12 09:01:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) : I want to start by saying what you’re saying makes perfect sense.

    I can’t count know how many times I’ve done the 6 hour haul at Kingspark. Arriving early to support the u19s and u21s. Like everyone else I have favourites and turn a blind-eye to these guys weaknesses, just wanting them to make it all the way to the top level. At the same time I view all junior players as a success story even if their careers don’t go any further. Those that make the transition to senior level are even more of a success story.

    However I’ve always prioritised the success of the Sharks over promoting from within our own ranks. Sometimes it happens and our youth programme develops players of a good enough calibre to represent the Sharks, other times it’s not meant to be and we recruit from outside.

    Again what you’re saying is spot on. Give our youngsters an oppot. But for me the overriding goal for team coaches and management has to be give the fans what they so desperately want – the SR title. So for that reason I hope that our Union is able to make the best decision in the interests of winning. If we have to buy to win, then lets buy. It doesn’t stop me from supporting juniors but that’s the way I feel. Senior rugby should always be reserved for the best players available to the Sharks. :smile:

  • Comment 73, posted at 28.01.12 09:06:52 by beet Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 68) : I’m afraid I can’t completely agree.

    While you know where I stand on the youngsters – and that I’ve been following all our young props, in particular, with extra-keen interest for the last few years, I think it would be suicide to go into this competition with Jannie as our only battle-hardened front ranker.

    The Sharks need to pick up an experienced campaigner to stand in for Beast, purely on a short-term basis. Bear in mind we’ve now lost Smit, van Staden and Beat from last year’s side, in addition to the likes of Carstne, Botha and dare I say even Lensing in years past. That’s a HUGE amount of front-row experience that’s walked out of the province and that will hurt us.

    The youngsters will get plenty of opportunities this season because of the (to my mind) correct decision to let van Staden leave. It’s all about balance, though.

  • Comment 74, posted at 28.01.12 09:10:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 73) : @robdylan (Comment 74) : You guys make valid points. But Van Staden was released because our coaches believed we had adequate depth in Herbst, Chadwick and Redelinghuys to cover for Jannie and Beast. So give these guys an opportunity to prove it. By all means, start the process of looking for a short-term, seasoned professional. But don’t contract him due to panic, contract him if, and only if we see that our youngsters are still not up to standard

  • Comment 75, posted at 28.01.12 09:16:27 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : If Leinster get knocked out of the Heineken Cup I’d give give Heinke vd Merwe a call.

  • Comment 76, posted at 28.01.12 09:26:52 by slammerboy Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 75) : @robdylan (Comment 74) :

    Sorry Rob, but I do agree with CS here, give the youngsters an extended run, if they don’t cope, then buy.

    They might actually surprise us and come through and prove the sale of van Staden to be a good one.

  • Comment 77, posted at 28.01.12 09:40:28 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Maybe a short term loan deal is something to look into?

    We want cover, but nothing longer than 6 months really, else the bought prop will play Currie Cup, where our youngsters should play Currie Cup.

  • Comment 78, posted at 28.01.12 09:44:28 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • CS has it spot on: now is the time to back the youngsters. Clearly the coaches saw enough potential to let van Staden go, so this merely accelerates a development plan already in place for this year.

    What’s the alternative? But a senior journeyman as short-term cover? What’s the odds that there is a SR-level prop floating around twiddling his thumbs right now?

  • Comment 79, posted at 28.01.12 09:51:08 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 74) : And Rob just to add to the validity of what you’ve said, from my experience of reading this blog over the years, you are arguably one of the biggest Dale Chadwick supporters around, easily the biggest on SW. In this case it would have been easy to go with the grain and say “back the youngsters” so much respect from my side for seeing the bigger picture.

    And I respect and enjoy reading everyone’s opinion on the matter. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 80, posted at 28.01.12 10:29:26 by beet Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 19) : yes,think this might be the best way to go about it (re: 3.herbst 1.jannie- if jannie is willing to move to lh ).

  • Comment 81, posted at 28.01.12 10:49:49 by bergshark Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 76) : good call that also.I was super impressed with heinke when he was part of the sharks sr in 2006 ( as a loan player from the lions).was hoping we could somehow keep him at the sharks.

  • Comment 82, posted at 28.01.12 10:52:52 by bergshark Reply

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  • you have to take into account, though, that Wors and Julian are both 3s (although Julz can play 1… but not very experienced there).

    Regardless of how highly we rate Dale, we now essentially only have 1 specialist loosehead in the squad.

    What I’m looking for is a 3-4 month loan deal for an experienced campaigner… NOT looking for the Sharks to contract anyone else and whoever it is must definitely head back before Currie Cup.

  • Comment 83, posted at 28.01.12 10:59:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 80) : thanks Beet – and you are right. I think Dale is a huge talent and I hope they start him. But we can’t suddenly throw the rotation requirement out of the window either and what would happen if he were to get injured?

  • Comment 84, posted at 28.01.12 11:01:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 83) : then I think slammerboy has made a good call re: heinke vd merwe ( and heinke has rep the sahrks in sr before as a loan player).but if it will happen ( the how),I’m not overly -optimistic .

  • Comment 85, posted at 28.01.12 11:03:46 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 85) : that’s not a shit suggestion at all… Wian du Preez is another who could work out (although always liked Heinke more).

    Doubt either of them would be available on short notice, or cheap enough though.

  • Comment 86, posted at 28.01.12 11:09:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • @bergshark (Comment 82) : Isn’t the HC quarterfinals only in April? What use would vd Merwe be then?

  • Comment 87, posted at 28.01.12 11:16:41 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : yes thinking the same thing.

  • Comment 88, posted at 28.01.12 11:18:49 by bergshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 87) : Just checked 1/4 Finals are 7/8 April.

    That would mean he’d only be here for 2/3 games before Beast was back. Any damage IF ANY that was done by playing youngsters until the 2nd week of Aprill would not be able to be undone in 3 weeks.

  • Comment 89, posted at 28.01.12 11:22:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : yes,wian is also another player one can look at- was also part of sharks sr before.
    KSAShark has done some googling and confirmed that the hc 1/4 are only starting on the 7th of april.

  • Comment 90, posted at 28.01.12 11:33:28 by bergshark Reply

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  • No european players, then

  • Comment 91, posted at 28.01.12 11:43:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 91) : anyone in Japan? :wink:

  • Comment 92, posted at 28.01.12 11:44:34 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • asx i am based in sunny Scotland can someone give me a bit of Info on Redelinghuis…i have bits and pieces info on him but would like to hear it from you guys closer to the action .

  • Comment 93, posted at 28.01.12 11:48:26 by The Duke Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 93) : think he was pretty much injured the whole of last season? Rob would know more .

  • Comment 94, posted at 28.01.12 11:49:52 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 94) : Cheers Berg….ROB !!…you fountain of knowledge you…spill the beans !

  • Comment 95, posted at 28.01.12 11:55:42 by The Duke Reply

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  • I don’t think Plum should sign a New Loosehead Prop permanently, first option should be to try and get a veteran Saffa loosehead on loan, that currently plays overseas.

    Any Names spring to mind, Guys?…Coetzee would’ve been the first on his list had he not been forced to retire.

  • Comment 96, posted at 28.01.12 12:32:16 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 96) : If thats the route the Sharks look to taking, just down the road in PE is veteran named Jaco Engels, aged 31. I can’t stand the guy esp after he once punched Johan Muller but he could provide the kind of experienced backup comfort, either ahead of or behind the youngsters in the depth chart, until the Beast is well again.

  • Comment 97, posted at 28.01.12 12:48:33 by beet Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 95) : Julian’s a shortish wide shouldered prop. Has a strong back so coupled with good technique proven to be a really good scrummager at junior level – was arguably the best TH in u21 in SA in 2010. A bit on the slower side and doesn’t have the glamorous ball-handing skills either so he’s a typical tight player rather than someone like Coenie O or the Beast who are often prominent ballcarriers a bit further away from the breakdown than customary for props. If I had to compare him to a well-known prop in SA with similar physique, style of play etc at the moment, I’d go with WP Nel.

  • Comment 98, posted at 28.01.12 12:51:37 by beet Reply

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  • Word is that Plum is going to have a look at how the props go in the internal trial and then decide if he needs to recruit or not. What will Plum see in one match that he doesn’t already know?

  • Comment 99, posted at 28.01.12 12:57:15 by war1 Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 98) :
    Cheers beet ! doesnt sound like he is going to be best suited to our usual game plan. although i may be left eating a foot. He has youth on his side and he may be more adept at learning more skills. I think a grunt work kind player is always good to have in pocket but we are going to miss the loose play that Beast brings.

  • Comment 100, posted at 28.01.12 12:59:09 by The Duke Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 97) : I think Plum should just overlook that name ;-) I do think we need to get someone experienced in if we want to perform consistently in the scrums…Dale Chawick is great talent, but after him we don’t have any established loosehead props…if we want to win a long Superugby season we gonna need to bring in someone. If only Eugene wasn’t sold…eish!!

  • Comment 101, posted at 28.01.12 13:02:35 by JJR Reply
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  • @war1 (Comment 99) : I agree, i never really understand what one trial game will tell you…everyone has their bad and good days…one game won’t give you too many real answers.

  • Comment 102, posted at 28.01.12 13:04:31 by JJR Reply
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  • Didn’t the Sharks sign a loosehead by the name of Kees Lensing a little while ago? Haven’t seen him since, he must be itching to play :lol:

  • Comment 103, posted at 28.01.12 13:05:28 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 103) : :-D

  • Comment 104, posted at 28.01.12 13:07:41 by bergshark Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 100) : Ja but at the same time if you have a prop who’s basics are sound, holds up his end of the deal in the setpiece and open play and doesn’t concede penalties esp the stupid ones, you’ve found gold imho. :smile:

  • Comment 105, posted at 28.01.12 13:09:53 by beet Reply

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  • @The Duke (Comment 100) : beast also brings def to the team.he can make big hits.

  • Comment 106, posted at 28.01.12 13:10:07 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 105) : jaco engels? Interesting name to throw in the hat..
    Not been impressed with his scrumming,but he is a strong runner ( hurt us in 2010 cc at loftus).could be interesting to see what he does next to bissie,jannie/herbst.

  • Comment 107, posted at 28.01.12 13:16:23 by bergshark Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 97) : 2008 at loftus sr14 . Jp nel got a yellow for a tip tackle on frans steyn.

  • Comment 108, posted at 28.01.12 13:29:14 by bergshark Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 103) : I won’t lie i was a big fan of Kees Lensing.

  • Comment 109, posted at 28.01.12 15:28:26 by JJR Reply
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  • I’ve got a brain freeze…haven’t read all the comments so forgive me question. Does Herbst play loosehead or tighthead? The boy is good! Might mean we have to speak to the Kings and get Jaco Engels on loan.

  • Comment 110, posted at 28.01.12 17:32:10 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 110) : tighthead .

  • Comment 111, posted at 28.01.12 19:45:37 by bergshark Reply

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  • @bergshark (Comment 111) : Thanks. Just couldn’t remember.

  • Comment 112, posted at 28.01.12 21:25:50 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 109) : based on what exactly?

  • Comment 113, posted at 28.01.12 22:22:15 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wicus Blaauw,does anyone have any info on him? Think Rassie didn’t extend his contract. Not the best when it comes to scrum time but effective in the loose.

  • Comment 114, posted at 29.01.12 07:38:18 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 114) : Blaauw from the Stormers’ light five. Bwhahahahaha.

    We don’t need a loosie we MIGHT need a prop, but let’s wait and back our youngsters first.

  • Comment 115, posted at 29.01.12 10:23:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) : Chadwick had a good CC, he actually suprized me. Think he’s ready to scrum against the likes of the Franks brothers and company?

  • Comment 116, posted at 29.01.12 17:39:40 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 116) : we’ll never know if we don’t have a look and see.

  • Comment 117, posted at 29.01.12 18:33:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Eish… BEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSTTT ! get well sonn bro!

  • Comment 118, posted at 30.01.12 08:01:03 by SharksRTB Reply

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