Richard Ferguson

Super franchises put forward ultimatum


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Bulls, Cheetahs, EP Kings, Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 12 Feb 2012 at 15:55
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If the Rapport newspaper is to be believed, the Stormers, Bulls, Lions, Cheetahs and Sharks have threatened to boycott the 2013 Super Rugby campaign should any of the five teams currently taking part are excluded.

The letter is believed to state that the teams will not take part in the tournament should the competition not be expanded to include 16 teams, and in such a way accommodating the Southern Kings.

The decision to include the Southern Kings in the Super Rugby campaign from 2013 onwards, came as a shock when the announcement was made, as it was simply left to the 14 SARU unions to decide how this will be accommodated.

SARU president Oregan Hoskins has responded to this letter by stating that it will be sent to other 9 unions and a decision regarding this will be made by the unions themselves.

SANZAR CEO Greg Peters, however, poured cold water on SARU’s ambitions ruling out the possibility of expansion, with the only solution being that one of the current South African franchises making way to accommodate the Kings.



48 Comments

  • This is going to get ugly..

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.02.12 15:57:01 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • SARU making their names tottie again!

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.02.12 16:02:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Viva la Revolucion!

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.02.12 16:34:41 by LordHope Reply

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  • Yeah. This is NOT a classic example of consultative leadership. :???:

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.02.12 16:44:02 by King Shark Reply
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  • SARU CEO Jurie Roux has now come out and said that the teams have NOT threatened to boycott the 2013 season..

    The letter apparently only states that the only solution would be to expand the competition.

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.02.12 16:50:27 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I hope this is true ! SARU should stop screwing with the UNIONS hehe

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.02.12 17:34:21 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 5) : The “He said, They said” is already going and the proposals haven’t even been put forward. :lol:

    We are going to have so much news material this year. :razz:

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.02.12 17:35:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) :

    I’m bored of it already though.. I think we should stick a thread at the top of the home screen and just comment on the news coming in..

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.02.12 18:26:45 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 7) : and we thought news is gonna be less without Divi

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.02.12 18:43:18 by Franshark Reply
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  • Good to see solidarity among the unions. Five teams coming together to deliver the middle finger of justice.

    Feel bad for the Kings caught in the middle of this.

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.02.12 18:51:52 by Leviathan Reply

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  • And obviously SARU deny the whole thing. Where there is smoke there is fire… Shambolic really. Rugby is where we sports fan should escape politics… Anyways. Let’s see where this goes…

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.02.12 20:10:39 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • If the Unions don’t wanna play, the screw them. Cant let the tail wag the dog, and lets see how long the solidarity will last when the Super Rugby earnings are truly at stake.

    SARU needs to make the calls so that national, and not provincial or individual, interests are catered for. Nobody has a right to play Super Rugby.

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.02.12 22:14:23 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 12) :
    Maybe, but the Kings promotion is not in the national interest, it is in the Kings interest And if not the major unions, consider the other 1st division teams that have been around far longer than the Kings but are being overlooked.

    BTW is anyone going to start an article on the proposed change to the Bulls uniform being proposed. Another example of governmental interference in the sport.

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.02.12 22:29:25 by Leviathan Reply

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  • I say well done too the unions, now they must just stick together( lets be honest saru or sanzar is going to give in if they stick together,there is no super 15 with out these teams)

    Leeus blykbaar in groter moeilikheid as wat ek gedink het, hulle is iets soos R93 miljoen in die rooi (maar dit is wat gebeur as jy spelers soos Butch James R 3.1 mil betaal en spelers soos Elton net R500 000) , so their new sponsor is not going to help them.

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.02.12 22:40:41 by berroos Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 13) :

    We don’t discus politics here..

    Its a rugby site with rugby content..

    If you’re unsure, have a look at the rules.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.02.12 22:48:25 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @berroos (Comment 14) : As dit so aangaan hoef daar dalk nie plek gemaak te word vir die Kings nie.(Wat gebeur met ‘n span as hulle insolfent veklaar word?)

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.02.12 22:55:47 by BR Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 15) :
    what about when it affects the rugby like the Bulls issue does?
    I’m not political (I don’t see the point) but surely infringement on the management of a team’s image should be discussed.
    Hell, I don’t even like the Bulls and I think it’s ridiculous.

    If you want me to be quiet about it OK I guess, but I still think it’s an important issue.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.02.12 23:04:53 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @BR (Comment 16) : really hope it doesn’t happen, also don’t know what happens to a team when it is bankrupt

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.02.12 23:08:16 by berroos Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 17) :

    Its really not important enough for us to do a thread about. If it is political and can lead to a political discussion, we are not interested. We are not Keo.

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.02.12 23:26:11 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @berroos (Comment 18) : seriously hope they don’t go down that road….

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.02.12 23:29:48 by Franshark Reply
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  • Keo?
    Don’t they make shoes or something?

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.02.12 23:37:23 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 21) : :lol:

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.02.12 23:38:54 by Franshark Reply
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  • Stick it to the man

  • Comment 23, posted at 13.02.12 06:22:06 by Mutley Reply

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  • @berroos (Comment 14) :

    ‘If Gumede and sons are to believed ..’

    ‘Was the 2010 audit before or after Atman Allers (Glassfit) bought into the Lions ?’

    ‘The new sponsors wont help them’ How do you know ? did you see The Bank statements ? Or are you making conclusions on old statements that might not be the truth any more ? Might be true , might not be . who knows ..

  • Comment 24, posted at 13.02.12 07:17:17 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 24) :

    This just never seems to go away?

    Good luck trying to focus on the rugby..

  • Comment 25, posted at 13.02.12 07:36:10 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 25) :

    yes . The same news paper keeps on recycling the same story over and over again . …

    It has also been reported that Bon Jovi died in November ..

  • Comment 26, posted at 13.02.12 08:14:57 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 26) :

    I was shocked when I read the story again yesterday..

    It is as if they want the Lions to go down.. it is sad!

  • Comment 27, posted at 13.02.12 08:16:41 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 27) :

    for me the fact is until the Lions are declared insolvent by a court they are not insolvent.

    same with Bon Jovi . no matter how many times a news paper report he is dead … until he actually dies he wont be dead ..

  • Comment 28, posted at 13.02.12 08:24:37 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 28) :

    I like your comparison!

    But you are so right.. I kinda wish they would just release the financial information, so that we can see for ourselves what is going on. But that would never happen!

  • Comment 29, posted at 13.02.12 08:26:11 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 29) :

    i try to be as visual as possible :lol: :razz:

    the ting is i believe we owe money . we cant not owe money . with the stat the union is in .

    i think you need more detail then just the statement .

    What i would rather like to know is what is Atman Alles (new shar holder) doing ? Is he pumping money into the Union ? and what are the terms behind this . Also the new sponsor we signed . what surety did KdK give them ?

  • Comment 30, posted at 13.02.12 08:47:57 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 30) :

    Altman is both a shareholder and vice presidnet isn’t he? So he has quite a bit of an interest in the Lions.. Maybe he is trying his utmost best to bail them out..

    I agree that the Lions are in financial trouble, but surely a new sponsor deal and backing from Altman can steer them clear..

  • Comment 31, posted at 13.02.12 08:50:22 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 31) :

    Yes he is .

    So my feeling is i dont need to see a statement as it should only confirm what i already know . Lions are in trouble but it is being attended to .

    I also feel the players showed great focus by winning the Currie Cup when this storm already started .

    Also guys like Taute , Jantjies and Hollenbach has re-signed with the Lions . if they werent sure about the financial situation surely they would not have signed ?

  • Comment 32, posted at 13.02.12 08:56:19 by Zibbie Reply
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  • If I were the Kings I wouldn’t go ahead and print the super rugby label onto the jerseys just yet. Unless SANZAR expands it to S16 there is no way that the Kings will play.

  • Comment 33, posted at 13.02.12 08:58:58 by Viking Reply
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  • @Leviathan (Comment 13) : Just Googled this.
    :shock: unreal.

  • Comment 34, posted at 13.02.12 09:17:34 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Theres an article on supersport about this. No current franchise will have to be replaced. The Kings will be an addition to the comp.

  • Comment 35, posted at 13.02.12 10:23:02 by Qshark Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 19) : LIKE!!!

    @Leviathan (Comment 21) : A VERY good pedal and now also a very good pedal based power meter. :)

  • Comment 36, posted at 13.02.12 11:17:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 36) :

    Just saying it like it is

  • Comment 37, posted at 13.02.12 11:33:00 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Qshark (Comment 35) : :shock: So SANZAR have agreed to an expansion? :lol:

  • Comment 38, posted at 13.02.12 11:33:58 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 37) : :) Parking sorted?

  • Comment 39, posted at 13.02.12 11:36:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 39) :

    Yip, we are in business!

    Just need to pick up the season tickets now for that renewal day..

  • Comment 40, posted at 13.02.12 11:41:17 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 40) : Excellent!! If the renewal day is gonna be a problem we can skip that if needed.

    Thanks for sorting that.

  • Comment 41, posted at 13.02.12 11:44:10 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) :

    No problem..

    I will see what I can do with renewal day. You just wanna get a bit closer hey? Or do you wanna shift across as well?

  • Comment 42, posted at 13.02.12 11:46:37 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 42) : I’d like to shift as little as possible, just closer.

  • Comment 43, posted at 13.02.12 11:52:47 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 12) : Surely that goes for the Kings too… I am behind the unions on this….Saru is there for rugby, rugby is not there for Saru.

  • Comment 44, posted at 13.02.12 11:53:23 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 43) :

    So just down.. Cool..

    Will see what they have available..

  • Comment 45, posted at 13.02.12 11:53:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Okay for those of you who are wondering what Rich and I are talking about. (I dislike it when people talk about pvt. Stuff on an open forum :) )

    SW has secured a parking and braai area on KP3&4, that can be used as a meeting/braai point for any of the bigger games if we decide to have get togethers or something.

  • Comment 46, posted at 13.02.12 11:56:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • And just because there doesn’t seem to be anywhere else t discuss this….see our boys over seas are doing well.. Ruan and Stefan both scored trys in Ulsters victory over newport. And, although part of a badly losing side at the moment, Frans also scored a try. He has come back from his injury on fire…Racing Metro though,have not found their stride this season.

  • Comment 47, posted at 13.02.12 12:07:45 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 28) : Bon Jovi may not be dead, but I’m happy to report that he’s not making music at the moment… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 48, posted at 13.02.12 12:12:24 by Culling Song Reply
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