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Otago


Written by Ryan Quirk (The Quirk)

Posted in :In the news, Original Content on 27 Feb 2012 at 14:21
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I’m sure that, by now, everyone has heard about the impending liquidation of the Otago Rugby Union.

Apparently they woe owe around 2.25 million New Zealand Dollars, which is the equivalent of about R14m according to the latest approximate exchange rate.  Surely someone in New Zealand can come up with a paltry 2.25 million  New Zealand dollars to save one of the oldest rugby unions in New Zealand.

Compare them to the Golden Lions Rugby Ruined Union, who are said to owe upwards of R30 million to one creditor and who knows how much to everybody else, yet they’ve managed to find someone to bail them out of the shit.

There is always talk of how amateur bodies are holding back the professional game of rugby, one only needs look at Western Province and the Stormers to see a team succeeding in spite of their administration and not because of it.

South African Unions are lucky they have such generous sponsors and a vast base of supporters, but even so, if something like this could happen to Otago, it could happen to just about anyone.  If anything this is a wake up call to all the other rugby unions out there.

Important questions are, what is going to happen to the Otago players and coaches?  Will they play in the ITM cup?  How will the Highlanders Superugby team be affected?



29 Comments

  • Cheeky… Is there now space for the Kings? :)

  • Comment 1, posted at 27.02.12 14:24:46 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 1) : I think the Highlanders (separate body), Southland and North Otago might have a few things to say to Cheeky and anyone else that will listen first.

  • Comment 2, posted at 27.02.12 14:28:52 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 2) : got the sums a little wrong there, Quirky :) Don’t worry, son, the ed will clean up for you :) :mrgreen: #allinadayswork

  • Comment 3, posted at 27.02.12 14:38:35 by robdylan Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 2) : the Super rugby franchise is separate from the home union. in the same way the GLRU is separate from the Lions franchise which includes Pumas & Leopards.

  • Comment 4, posted at 27.02.12 14:51:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : I just checked and you’re right! I had the US / NZ Dollar exchange rate in my calculation… Keen eyes there…

  • Comment 5, posted at 27.02.12 14:52:02 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Highlanders still have at least Southland players to draw from so they may survive.

    I don’t think that comparing Otago to the Lions is necessary adequate as the Lions are a separate super rugby franchise and Otago is not. Perhaps the fact that it is a smaller and a lower level union played some part in the decision to liquidate it.

  • Comment 6, posted at 27.02.12 15:19:06 by rekinek Reply
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  • Unfortunately I think the state of the global markets and the pressure exerted by the big salary paying Euro clubs is taking its toll on Sanzar SR teams. Their finances are being pushed to the brink and some have started to eat into their resources.

    Not so long ago the Brumbies were also at risk of bankrupcy. Fortunately the local University came to their aid. One wud probably find that all the S15 teams are under financial pressure of some kind.

    Bail out aren’t necessarily the way to go. Sometimes a liquidation paves the way for someone new to buy the brand and/or trademarks and to tap into that same market with a viable business plan. It doesn’t have to mean the end of the road for the fans. It could be the birth of something better.

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.02.12 15:19:56 by beet Reply

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  • Anycase would be a pity to loose Lions now that they started playing better.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.02.12 15:20:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 6) : Exactly.

    They should rather be campared to SWD or someone at that level.

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.02.12 15:38:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 7) : Otago is not a Sanzar SR franchise though.

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.02.12 15:39:49 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @rekinek(Comment 6) : “I don’t think that comparing Otago to the Lions is necessary adequate as the Lions are a separate super rugby franchise and Otago is not” – Try this one again mate? :lol:

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.02.12 15:44:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : Otago are NOT a SR franchise.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.02.12 15:51:33 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 10) : I understand that but can’t you bracket them with a FS Cheetahs CC team. They are the heart of Highlanders rugby.

    The Cheetahs SR team could exist without the Bloemfontein input (Griquas players wud play) but it wud result in a weakened team running out onto the field.

    Just like the FS Cheetahs with the CC vs SR, Otago is responsible for attacting top players, not just to compete in the NPC but in the SR as well.

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.02.12 15:57:20 by beet Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 11) : I’m confident this sentence is capable of being understood after reading it once ;-)

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.02.12 15:58:49 by rekinek Reply
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  • @beet (Comment 13) : relying on wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highlanders_(rugby_union)) I counted 3 players from Otago in 30 men Highlanders 2012 Superrugby squad (unless it refers to where the players were born or so ?)

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.02.12 16:04:19 by rekinek Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : duh! the GLRU is also not a franchise but the base of the Lions franchise. Steve Tew mentioned that the Highlanders franchise is not at risk as these are separate entities.

    the difference with the lions & otago situation is that the GLRU’s kak financial situation directly affected the franchise in that they only paid the Pumas what is due to them only in 2007 and then part of the money for 2008 and then just stopped paying them!

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.02.12 16:06:25 by Megatron Reply

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  • @beet (Comment 13) : the difference in NZ is that guys like colin slade, hosea gear, andrew hore etc can be drafted into the Highlanders franchise from elsewhere where in SA teams are confined to only the players signed to the franchise member unions.

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.02.12 16:14:04 by Megatron Reply

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  • Well, i think most of my questions have been answered… :-)

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.02.12 16:16:43 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 18) : Otago might get kicked out of ITM Cup if they’re folded and don’t exist anymore as a business.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.02.12 16:28:27 by Megatron Reply

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  • where is hertford highlander with more info? :lol:

  • Comment 20, posted at 27.02.12 16:36:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) :

    How does the Drafting system work ? i assume it means if say Elton Jantjies does not get selected for the Lions , and the Sharks need a fly halve , they draft him in . Can the Sharks then offer him a say 3 year contract ? so he will play there for 3 years then ?

  • Comment 21, posted at 27.02.12 16:38:29 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 20) : eishhh… he may be in some sort of mourning…

  • Comment 22, posted at 27.02.12 16:50:34 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 21) : as far as i know, all the players are contracted to the NZRU and not to individual franchises or unions. look at israel dagg, he is from hawkes bay & plays for them in the ITM Cup, was part of the Highlanders franchise. the NZRU offered him a move to the Crusaders when leon mcdonald retired, he took it and now he is a crusader. on the other hand the NZRU looked at Colin Slade and how they wanted him to get more super rugby gametime, with carter there he was benching mostly, so they offered him a move to the highlanders where he will be the no.1 flyhalf which was good for his all-round development as All Black back-up.

    since players are centrally contracted, then they negotiate with the NZRU as to where they might end up.

  • Comment 23, posted at 27.02.12 17:04:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 23) : does this central contracting refer only to All Blacks or to all NZ rugby players?

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.02.12 17:27:01 by rekinek Reply
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  • rekinek: all professional nz players to my knowledge.

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.02.12 17:53:49 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 25) : thanks. :grin:

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.02.12 17:58:00 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 20) : @rekinek (Comment 22) :

    Things aren’t good chaps! :cry:

  • Comment 27, posted at 28.02.12 08:28:35 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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  • @Hertford Highlander (Comment 27) : really sad… one of my favourite unions, with so much history.

  • Comment 28, posted at 28.02.12 08:31:21 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : one of mine to! :oops:

  • Comment 29, posted at 28.02.12 08:39:10 by Hertford Highlander Reply
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