Richard Ferguson

Super Rugby 2012 – Stormers (15) vs Sharks (12) F/T


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 3 Mar 2012 at 17:30
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The Super Rugby weekend closes in Cape Town when the Stormers, fresh off their victory over the Hurricanes take on the Sharks at Newlands. Both teams will be desperate for the win as games like these determine the outcome of the conference.

The Stormers have lost their captain Schalk Burger, but welcome back Juan de Jongh to the midfield, with Bryan Habana moving back to his accustomed position of wing. Siya Kolisi has been tasked with filling the boots of Burger, and will look forward to taking on the Sharks loosies.

The Sharks have lost Ryan Kankowski to a broken thumb, and with Willem Alberts not quite ready for action yet, they have opted to start with Botes, Coetzee and Daniel. Changes amongst the backs sees Tim Whitehead injured and Meyer Bosman taking his spot. In the front row, Wiehahn Herbst gets a start ahead of Jannie du Plessis.

Another close game, with the Stormers taking it based on home ground advantage.

Stormers: 15. Johan Pietersen, 14. Gio Aplon, 13. Juan de Jongh, 12. Jean de Villiers (Captain), 11. Bryan Habana, 10. Gary Van Aswegen, 9. Dewaldt Duvenage, 8. Nick Koster, 7. Duane Vermeulen, 6. Siya Kolisi, 5. Andries Bekker, 4. Eben Etzebeth, 3. Brok Harris, 2. Tiaan Liebenberg, 1. Steven Kitshoff

Replacements: 16. Siyabonga Ntubeni, 17. Frans Malherbe, 18. De Kock Steenkamp, 19. Nizaam Carr, 20. Louis Schreuder, 21. Peter Grant, 22. Gerhard van den Heever

Sharks: 15 Riaan Viljoen, 14 Louis Ludik, 13 JP Pietersen, 12 Meyer Bosman, 11 Lwazi Mvovo, 10 Patrick Lambie, 9 Frederic Michalak, 8 Keegan Daniel (captain), 7 Marcell Coetzee, 6 Jacques Botes, 5 Ross Skeate, 4 Steven Sykes, 3 Wiehahn Herbst, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Dale Chadwick

Substitutes: 16 Craig Burden, 17 Jannie du Plessis, 18 Anton Bresler, 19 Lubabalo Mtembu, 20 Charl McLeod, 21 Marius Joubert, 22 Paul Jordaan



316 Comments

  • Go SHARKS!!!!!!!

  • Comment 1, posted at 03.03.12 17:34:09 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Sharkies! Keep me shouting, I have enough strepsils

  • Comment 2, posted at 03.03.12 17:59:57 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • Go SHARKS you can do it boys. We believe

  • Comment 3, posted at 03.03.12 18:43:07 by juba_fan Reply

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  • It’s a worry to me that I didn’t hear victoria during the Cheetahs match.

    Is he in CT? :oops:

  • Comment 4, posted at 03.03.12 18:56:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Come on Sharks you can do this!

  • Comment 5, posted at 03.03.12 19:04:03 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 4) :

    They spoke to him at halftime.

    Darn Cheetahs. How useless was Philip Snyman! And a handful of others actually…

  • Comment 6, posted at 03.03.12 19:04:33 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Go Sharks!

    Expect a Stormers win, but really looking for signs of progress from the lads.

  • Comment 7, posted at 03.03.12 19:11:17 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Pat has been very poor in his decision-making and kicking so far.

  • Comment 8, posted at 03.03.12 19:17:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Seriously, Chadwick can’t expect to be taken seriously if he is HANDED-OFF by Joe Pieterson. :roll:

  • Comment 9, posted at 03.03.12 19:22:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Come on Sharkies!!!

  • Comment 10, posted at 03.03.12 19:25:19 by Ben Reply

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  • Good rugby so far

  • Comment 11, posted at 03.03.12 19:28:33 by Seth101 Reply
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  • 2 very poor decisions to snipe by Fred. Hope his hunger to make a break is not gonna cost us…

  • Comment 12, posted at 03.03.12 19:33:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • This is beautiful rugby from the sharks!

  • Comment 13, posted at 03.03.12 19:36:25 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 13) : This isn’t beautiful rugby from the Sharks. This was though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUmkszso4Pw

  • Comment 14, posted at 03.03.12 19:41:49 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 13) :
    I don’t wanna be a buzz-killer, but beautiful rugby would have us more in their 22 then so far.

    We have shown enterprise, but too lateral on attack so far.

  • Comment 15, posted at 03.03.12 19:42:42 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : It’s a slight improvement. I just hope we can keep improving.

  • Comment 16, posted at 03.03.12 19:49:20 by lostfish Reply
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  • Sharks running the ball with good lines, Viljoen impressing so far

  • Comment 17, posted at 03.03.12 19:51:48 by Mutley Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : Out line outs are working, we are playing a good running game, with a few good line breaks, our scrum is holding, and our defence is solid, what else do you want? I guess a try or two would be nice ;)

  • Comment 18, posted at 03.03.12 19:51:51 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 18) : Watch the youtube clip above. This is enterprising rugby as Big Fish mentioned. Beautiful rugby is the rugby the Sharks played in their 90′s heydays.

  • Comment 19, posted at 03.03.12 19:53:04 by lostfish Reply
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  • Coetzee also carrying the ball good

  • Comment 20, posted at 03.03.12 19:53:33 by Mutley Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 19) : On my phone at the moment, will do when I can thanks :) in my defence I was born in the 90s ;)

  • Comment 21, posted at 03.03.12 19:54:54 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Halftime and the players pushing each other around Stormers 6 Sharks 9

  • Comment 22, posted at 03.03.12 19:54:56 by Mutley Reply

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  • Happy with our defense, handling and line outs. That statement already exceeds all expectations I had pre-2012

  • Comment 23, posted at 03.03.12 19:56:04 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 21) : If you are a Sharks fan you will know about the 90′s.

  • Comment 24, posted at 03.03.12 19:56:41 by lostfish Reply
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  • much better rugby from the Sharks… the forwards are playing smart, disciplined rugby against a bigger pack…. looks good.

  • Comment 25, posted at 03.03.12 19:58:50 by robdylan Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 24) : O trust me I know about the 90s, just strugled to do much Shark watching back then ;)

  • Comment 26, posted at 03.03.12 19:59:15 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Coetzee has been superb. But Chadwick… I know he is a youngster, but I know that he has great physical strength, and its his poor technique in the tackle and carrying the ball that really pulls him down.

    By contrast, Klitshof again impresses when you think that that physique and toughness belongs to a 19-year old.

    Similar stories for Coetzee, Etzebeth and Kolisi.

  • Comment 27, posted at 03.03.12 19:59:31 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 13) : I think that compared to last week, this is pretty beautiful!

  • Comment 28, posted at 03.03.12 19:59:53 by robdylan Reply
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  • oh man…. how good is Bosman’s defence today?

  • Comment 29, posted at 03.03.12 20:00:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : The point I was going for, given maybe not expressed well enough :)

  • Comment 30, posted at 03.03.12 20:01:34 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Our fitness and bench is what’s gonna help us take this one,can’t wait to see when macloed,jordaan and jannie comes on….

  • Comment 31, posted at 03.03.12 20:02:31 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 24) : Im also a 90s kid, know about the 90s Super Sharks, cant remember alot though

  • Comment 32, posted at 03.03.12 20:02:36 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : And his running and offloads! Is it the same guy? It can’t be?

  • Comment 33, posted at 03.03.12 20:02:49 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Jannie will make a big impact in the scrum, he will be fresh and strong.

  • Comment 34, posted at 03.03.12 20:04:02 by Seth101 Reply
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  • 62-24 tacles made :D and 18-9 tackles missed :D

  • Comment 35, posted at 03.03.12 20:05:22 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 28) : It’s not difficult to be better than last week?

  • Comment 36, posted at 03.03.12 20:05:48 by lostfish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 29) : I am really impressed. How is the jet lag?

  • Comment 37, posted at 03.03.12 20:06:08 by lostfish Reply
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  • 62-24 tackles made :D and 18-9 tackles missed :D

  • Comment 38, posted at 03.03.12 20:06:19 by Seth101 Reply
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  • And the 2nd half begins

  • Comment 39, posted at 03.03.12 20:06:27 by Mutley Reply

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  • I am impressed with JP today. He has really taken to the centre berth quite well.

  • Comment 40, posted at 03.03.12 20:06:47 by lostfish Reply
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  • I am pleasantly surprised at what I am seeing from the Sharks tonight. We need to turn all of that possession and territory into points in the second half though.

  • Comment 41, posted at 03.03.12 20:07:07 by war1 Reply
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  • @Seth101 (Comment 26) : lol, fair enough.

  • Comment 42, posted at 03.03.12 20:07:17 by lostfish Reply
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  • Keegan why kick????

  • Comment 43, posted at 03.03.12 20:07:43 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 43) : What a waste of a turnover.

  • Comment 44, posted at 03.03.12 20:08:01 by lostfish Reply
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  • Lucky miss

  • Comment 45, posted at 03.03.12 20:09:16 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Petersen misses an easy penalty attempt

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.03.12 20:09:22 by Mutley Reply

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  • Another miss :D

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.03.12 20:12:02 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Petersen misses another

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.03.12 20:12:09 by Mutley Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 46) : And ANOTHER one. :shock:

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.03.12 20:12:15 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Lambie bringing down Becker well.

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.03.12 20:15:50 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Becoming a messy game

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.03.12 20:18:40 by Mutley Reply

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  • Not due to the one mistake but would start look to Jannie soon for the impact.

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.03.12 20:18:45 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Bosman also thinks he’s a fetcher, is there anything he can’t do?

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.03.12 20:19:51 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Finally over by Petersen
    9 all

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.03.12 20:21:39 by Mutley Reply

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  • Rubbish call, JP was hardly holding him.

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.03.12 20:22:01 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Has Fleckie had an accident with peroxide?

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.03.12 20:23:04 by lostfish Reply
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  • Yet another miss by Petersen

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.03.12 20:24:22 by Mutley Reply

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  • Another miss :) that’s 3 now

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.03.12 20:24:53 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Another miss :) that’s 3 now, jannie on.

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.03.12 20:25:17 by Seth101 Reply
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  • So this is the half where we fall asleep?

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.03.12 20:25:26 by klempie Reply

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  • Lwazi “Interception” Mvovo

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.03.12 20:27:05 by lostfish Reply
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  • Is Skeate trying to help the Stormers?

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.03.12 20:27:31 by lostfish Reply
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  • Yellow to Ross Skeate

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.03.12 20:27:58 by Mutley Reply

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  • Yellow for Skeat, not rolling away.

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.03.12 20:28:05 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Such poor ruck discipline from the Sharks – really costing us.

    And now a YC – the coach must be so pissed!

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.03.12 20:28:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Grant gets a kick, 12-9 stormers

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.03.12 20:29:12 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Grant gives the Stormers the lead 12-9

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.03.12 20:29:15 by Mutley Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 65) : most of those have been from Skeate in the past few rucks

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.03.12 20:31:32 by lostfish Reply
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  • Sharks 8 handling errors to stormers 6

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.03.12 20:32:35 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Petersen misses his 4rth

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.03.12 20:39:46 by Mutley Reply

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  • Jordaan on :D

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.03.12 20:40:08 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Mthembu tackled early after off-sides infringements retreating, and no YC. Consistency?

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.03.12 20:43:35 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Lambie makes it 12 all

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.03.12 20:43:55 by Mutley Reply

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  • Lambie slots, 12 all

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.03.12 20:44:00 by Seth101 Reply
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  • Daniel and Bismarck the chief culprits in giving away penalties all night AGAIN. :oops: :sad:

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.03.12 20:47:54 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Grant attempting a difficult penalty from the side and its over, Stormers lead 15-12

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.03.12 20:48:54 by Mutley Reply

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  • Sharks need a try to win, a penalty or DG to win

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.03.12 20:51:09 by Mutley Reply

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  • Knock on by Sharks, Stormers ball, wins the scrum and kick it out to win 15-12

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.03.12 20:52:16 by Mutley Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 75) : As the 2 captains it is unacceptable.

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.03.12 20:52:18 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 79) : great example they are setting :(

  • Comment 80, posted at 03.03.12 20:53:17 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • The only good thing from this game is that I picked the Stormers by 3 on superbru.

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.03.12 20:53:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 80) : Another senior player who should know better is Skeate.

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.03.12 20:54:20 by lostfish Reply
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  • Keegan and Bissie out of the the starting XV, please…we would’ve won if they hadn’t given away all those bladdy penalties!!! I don’t mind if players make a mistake and then learn from it; but keegan and Bissie just don’t get it.

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  • Daniel Brain fart: What’s new.

    Another penalty given away by our fantastic Captain. How long will this penalty feast continue.

    So so disappointed.

  • Comment 84, posted at 03.03.12 20:55:31 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • Really upset, we had that!

  • Comment 85, posted at 03.03.12 20:55:40 by Seth101 Reply
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  • WTF was Lawrence doing? Very sketchy calls in the second half

  • Comment 86, posted at 03.03.12 20:55:41 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • Well done Stormers – gritty win.

    As for us, good progress, and 2 points away from home isn’t awful. We will be much better with some of our big boys back to get the momentum – even without that, we are still creating opportunities.

    Great games from Bosman, Coetzee (the fumble at the end should not detract from a great game) and Sykes (glad to eat humble pie on that one).

    Our young props, Bismark and Skeate were not so good. And I think we need to look beyond Ludik on the wing.

  • Comment 87, posted at 03.03.12 20:56:53 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 84) : be fair… Keegan was great for most of the match.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : He was, but when will he learn to stay on side?? Been a problem with Keegan for years and he is our leader now…needs to be fixed.

    Want 5 points against the Kittens next week!

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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : our captain just cost us the game

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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : I thought most of the guys were very good, Skeate was not at his best

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.03.12 21:01:28 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 90) : Our don’t understand why he had to make that mistake…i would’ve taken a draw and been very happy with that.

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  • Marcell Coetzee,hold on to him he’s special.

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.03.12 21:02:16 by Ludz Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 81) : :smile:

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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 91) : I think things could’ve been a lot better had Du Toit been at 7, Coetzee at 8 and Botes at 6 ;-)

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.03.12 21:02:46 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 89) : Keegan gave away 1 penalty… Bissie about 4 and Skeate about 3… why all the blame on Keegan?

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.03.12 21:03:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • Disappointing really considering how positive things were looking in the first half. Our props need to hit that scrum machine and magically put on another 20kgs each otherwise they’re going to get tossed around like red headed step children this season. Plum needs to have a quiet word with Daniel about his discipline. Unforgivable indiscipline from someone who should be leading by example.

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  • Man I AM glad the Cheetahs are in our conference or we’d be stone last. :(

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.03.12 21:03:53 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 88) : Rob that may be so but as we tore into Bosman and Stefan for poor defence in the wrong part of the field Keegan gave Morne two easy penalties last week and now today he effectively loses us the game he tends to have his brain farts in the wrong part of the field! He is the captain for f sake :evil:

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  • @Ludz (Comment 93) : He Was awesome…now we need to have him, Alberts and Botes in the same trio.

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 99) : Keegan this week was 1000% better than Keegan last week.

    WHO exactly would you guys have as captain, since you all seem to want to drop Keegan (and Bismarck) as far and as fast as possible…

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.03.12 21:05:41 by robdylan Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 95) : totally agree with you :twisted:

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.03.12 21:06:33 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Jeez we were poor at set piece .Bismarck and Daniel both giving away to many penalties ,Bismarck however had some hugely positive contributions whereas Daniel was just poor in almost every aspect of play ,not good from a captain .
    Must say I can’t see the Stormers doing well this year . Sharks really need our big boys back from injury .
    I was impressed with Sykes today ,him and Coetzee were stand outs . Koster won motm pfff what a load of hs, Coetzee was the best forward on the park tonight by far.
    The Sharks will never succeed if they don’t start capitalizing on possession and scoring when they are in the opposition 22.
    Oh MB player really well and it will be a fight for that 12 jersey .

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 98) : Ha Ha, from now on it will be smooth sailing for The Sharks…these 1st 2 games away and against our rivals was always gonna be a difficult ask with all those guys we have injured.

    I will be surprised if The Sharks don’t beat the Lions by at Least 15 points next week. If we can play a games where the team is disciplined…we should win 90% of our games.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : its all emotional Rob. Come next week the blood would have stopped boiling

  • Comment 105, posted at 03.03.12 21:07:29 by slammerboy Reply

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  • STORMERS!
    Woohoo what a game.
    I thought you guys has us at half time. What a kick from Grant to seal the match. Don’t know what Daniel was thinking. Walk with pride guys, you played a magnificent game, but a few too many repeat offenders in the penalty department. A pity about Bissie, he was your best player in my opinion. Now away with you to visit ruination upon the Lions, while we sup upon the fruits of victory.

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  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : Sadly there is no one else that comes to mind as captain. Keegan seemed to talk to the team more before he was made captain. He should start getting the team in a huddle and doing the team talks again.

    He was better this week but he still has a long way to go.

  • Comment 107, posted at 03.03.12 21:07:58 by lostfish Reply
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  • @willa (Comment 90) : The scores were tied so we weren’t going to win.

  • Comment 108, posted at 03.03.12 21:09:56 by lostfish Reply
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  • Also need to seriously consider Sbura or Jordaan on the wing,cause Ludik isn’t your answer there,quite frankly playing against a team full of butterfingers tonight,you boys should’ve done better. Nick Koster was pretty good tonight

  • Comment 109, posted at 03.03.12 21:10:36 by Ludz Reply

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  • I will eat humble pie as well Richard Ferguson, Bosman was very good, long may it continue.

    Defensively JPP look a bit dodgy at centre, Ludik out, Jordaan in.
    Mcleod in, du Toit in Alberts in.

    Keegan was good but cost us the game and that is the bottom line. Catains can not cost us games, he is not a captain.

  • Comment 110, posted at 03.03.12 21:11:22 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • One thing we can take away is that we were very competitive away from home with a young and inexperienced pack. Add Alberts , Beast, Kankowski and Deysel to that pack and we would have buried this game.

  • Comment 111, posted at 03.03.12 21:11:42 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 103) : Daniel was just poor in almost every aspect of play

    Can you go into that in more detail? I guess he missed all his tackles, right? Must have. Certainly can’t have taken any lineout ball? Nothing like that, hey…

  • Comment 112, posted at 03.03.12 21:11:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • we can do better without a captain than with a captain that has brain farts when it matters

  • Comment 113, posted at 03.03.12 21:12:18 by willa Reply

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  • @slammerboy (Comment 105) : ja, for sure, but emotion shouldn’t inspire you to talk shit :)

  • Comment 114, posted at 03.03.12 21:12:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 101) : Lambie gets my vote.

  • Comment 115, posted at 03.03.12 21:13:13 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Bismarck kak again! Drop him and give Burden a shot! Lineouts pathetic. Not putting all the blame for the lineouts on Bis but he has to cop some blame. His discipline was poor. We keep making STUPID mistakes when we are on attack. Better performance than last week but still a LOT of improvement required.

  • Comment 116, posted at 03.03.12 21:13:32 by Ben Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 114) : :lol:

  • Comment 117, posted at 03.03.12 21:13:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 115) : did you think Pat’s decision-making was all that good tonight?

  • Comment 118, posted at 03.03.12 21:14:31 by robdylan Reply
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  • Dumb dumb dumb dumb

  • Comment 119, posted at 03.03.12 21:14:53 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 104) : You MUST win all your home games and then a few of the away games to be in with a shout to top the conference.

    Those away games need to be the domestic ones and we aren’t doing very well there.

    Who here is NOT worried about next week right now?

  • Comment 120, posted at 03.03.12 21:15:28 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • quesiont I have… how much more beardd does Craig Burden actually have to grow before Plum considers him worthy of even a minute of game time?

    Or is he scared of the tantrum when Bismarck gets replaced?

  • Comment 121, posted at 03.03.12 21:15:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 110) : How did Keegan cost us the game? At that stage the scores were tied at 12 all. So if anything it would have been a draw not a win.

  • Comment 122, posted at 03.03.12 21:16:08 by lostfish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 121) : Good question. Drop Bismarck to the bench next week is my call.

  • Comment 123, posted at 03.03.12 21:16:21 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 112) : Wasn’t good at the breakdown…
    Wasn’t good in the lineouts…
    Wasn’t good behind the scrum when it was retreating…
    Wasn’t good in broken play ,compared to his usual standards and kicked the ball too often aimlessly…

  • Comment 124, posted at 03.03.12 21:16:37 by Talent Reply
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  • Shit im pissed off! We should have buried that in the first half

  • Comment 125, posted at 03.03.12 21:17:10 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 96) : rob Keegan gave away two pks that I remember one we were lucky that Pietersen missed.

    @robdylan (Comment 101) : I don’t think Lambie would be such a bad choice, he is young but he has the brains and the composure to lead otherwise Alberts he captained the Lions well. And I am not criticising his game I felt he was outstanding today! Just a captain that cannot control himself is not going to control a team.

  • Comment 126, posted at 03.03.12 21:17:36 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • The only positive to take from this game is the bonus point. When will we learn not to give away penalties????????????? Bloody hell it gets to me and many other Shark supporters that don’t blog. Come on Keegan you need to set a example???????? How we miss John as our captain. For many that dissed him he is sure missed this season.

    Just pissed off right now really. Once again we could have won this game much like last week against the Bulls. Only thing in our favour is both games were away from home. Once we lose at home we are done. Come on Sharks. Us supporters are there for you, just deliver from home boys……….. :MR GREEN:

  • Comment 127, posted at 03.03.12 21:18:50 by Puma Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 123) : It’s a tough call but he doesn’t deserve to be starting with the way he is playing.

  • Comment 128, posted at 03.03.12 21:18:54 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 122) : would u have 2 points each, or 1 point and wp 4!!!
    i dont know but in the end it might matter

  • Comment 129, posted at 03.03.12 21:19:54 by willa Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 127) : John didn’t deserve his starting spot but he still could’ve run on as a water boy and given a few pep talks.

  • Comment 130, posted at 03.03.12 21:20:05 by lostfish Reply
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  • And to add insult to injury he tries to hold the ball in a scrum marching backwards! That wasn’t too clever either!

  • Comment 131, posted at 03.03.12 21:20:59 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 109) : well, told you ages ago about Ludik, this level is too much for him. Gutted about the loss expected more from the boys.

  • Comment 132, posted at 03.03.12 21:21:02 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Sad that we lost the game, particularly due to poor discipline, and more so given that it was from our leadership corps.

    Nonetheless, I thought Keegan was actually pretty damn good overall. So too were a number of people over who there had been question marks (e.g. Meyer Bosman). Overall I’d say there was much to feel good about, even though the game was there for the taking.

    Was also pleased that Plun had the minerals to bring some of the young, untried substitutes on with more than five minutes remaining.

    There’s a lot we’ll have to improve on if we are to be contenders, but for the first time in YEARS I actually believe we have the ability to pull of those improvements.

  • Comment 133, posted at 03.03.12 21:21:03 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 118) : His game will not change but he will be able to lead the team in tactical decision making. Let’s face it those decisions are made during stoppages and he has a cool enough head on him to take the right decisions during those periods, AS DOES DANIEL, but we can’t afford to have our Captain give away multiple penalties each week.

    I won’t take you on about Daniel’s (Ice the s is allowed in this instance) penalty count, but currently the incomplete stats at RugbyStats has him at 2PKs tonight and giving away 3 turnovers. I will wait for the final stats before I quote the specifics. ;-)

  • Comment 134, posted at 03.03.12 21:21:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 128) : Even if just to give him a wake up call. He certainly needs one.

  • Comment 135, posted at 03.03.12 21:21:50 by Ben Reply

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  • @willa (Comment 129) : It’s more that one player didn’t cost us the game. There were a few others who gave away penalties too. If Peterson hadn’t missed 4 kicks we wouldn’t have even had the bonus point. If Lambie had made his other kicks we would’ve won. You can go on and on and on but it isn’t going to change the fact that one player doesn’t lose the game. Each and every player is accountable.

  • Comment 136, posted at 03.03.12 21:22:39 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 122) : I agree with that. it could easily be argued that any one of the players who gave away penalties scored us the game, Daniel’s (Ice, Again the s is permissable in this instance) just happened to be the one that put them ahead of us.

  • Comment 137, posted at 03.03.12 21:23:06 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • I thought there was a whole lot of players putting in huge efforts, a whole lot better. Great effort, great ball stealing…still need to work on discipline, but if we got the whole excecution of what I believe the plan was right, this would have been tickets for the Stormers. What I believe now is missing is we need to gel as a team…and finish what we start.

    Am I dissapointed, of course I am, especially after seeing our forwards doing a great job! (When I doubted them to be too light).

  • Comment 138, posted at 03.03.12 21:24:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 122) : 100%, but we sure as hell weren’t losing the game either until Keegan stepped up. 2 points better better than 1

  • Comment 139, posted at 03.03.12 21:25:38 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • Stats from the first half. The Sharks have 67% of the possession and made 24 tackles. The Stomers have 33% possession and have made 62 tackles.-The Sharks facebook page

  • Comment 140, posted at 03.03.12 21:25:51 by Talent Reply
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  • 13 penalties conceded to 6, We should be thankful my daughter kicks better than Joe Pietersen

  • Comment 141, posted at 03.03.12 21:26:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 139) : Yeah but had the other guys not given away Penalties earlier then Daniel’s (allowed) one would not have been the one to put them ahead.

    just because his was the last one you can’t say HE cost us the game. Each and everyone of the others could be considered the one that cost us the game.

  • Comment 142, posted at 03.03.12 21:29:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 121)You have a good point. When will Craig get a start before Bissie? Damn I feel frustrated now. CAN all the JOHN SMIT bashers finally see why Bissie was 2nd choice to John? Anyhow thought we should have won this game, much as we should have won against the Bulls last week. Too many penalties given away cost us. At least we pick up a bonus point away from home.

    Still proud of our team. For what it is worth, Lambie was very, very good tonight. Well done to him.

  • Comment 143, posted at 03.03.12 21:29:49 by Puma Reply

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  • Looking at the positives. How good was Marcell? Certainly has a great future ahead of him. Bosman did well and I thought JP had a great game at 13. Riaan Viljoen had a great game as well. Really think we need to drop Ludik and bring in Jordaan or Sithole just to bring that extra spark. Oh and Sykes had a great game as well.

  • Comment 144, posted at 03.03.12 21:30:22 by Ben Reply

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  • My team going forward;
    15 Riaan Viljoen
    14 Paul Jordaan-blood him now at wing
    13 JP Pietersen
    12 Meyer Bosman
    11 Lwazi Mvovo
    10 Patrick Lambie
    9 Frederic Michalak
    8 Marcell Coetzee
    7 Willem Alberts*(c?)
    6 Jacques Botes *(c?)
    5 Ross Skeate
    4 Steven Sykes
    3 JDP
    2 Bismarck du Plessis
    1 Dale Chadwick

  • Comment 145, posted at 03.03.12 21:30:55 by Talent Reply
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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 139) : Looking at it like that you could say Lambie cost us the game because he missed 2 kicks.

  • Comment 146, posted at 03.03.12 21:30:58 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 145) : Why play Coetzee at 8 he does perfectly well at 7.

  • Comment 147, posted at 03.03.12 21:31:58 by lostfish Reply
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  • Also I can clearly see and I never wanted too, Lambie is a fullback and not a flyhalf, he just looks so much better at 15.

    Just an observation.

  • Comment 148, posted at 03.03.12 21:32:52 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • Freaking hell!

    4 Boks out in the pack, people – FOUR!!!
    We did very well today. Good things still to come.

    Keegan had some very good moments to go with the bad – some good steals, breaks and distribution. We need to keep faith here!

  • Comment 149, posted at 03.03.12 21:33:50 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 146) : Or Marcell cost us the game because he knocked at the end. :roll:

    @lostfish (Comment 147) : Because Marcell is a 8 and that’s where he prefers to play.

  • Comment 150, posted at 03.03.12 21:34:45 by Ben Reply

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  • Really not sure if Keegan should have been made captain before the S15. Has he cost us with giving too many penalties away? Feel in two minds right now. For now not sure if he is Sharks right captain.Feel frustrated about our game tonight.

  • Comment 151, posted at 03.03.12 21:35:31 by Puma Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 150) : Would you start Marcell ahead of Alberts at 8?

  • Comment 152, posted at 03.03.12 21:37:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • Keegan Daniel had a great game! He was very good with ball in hand, good at line-outs, think 8 is his best spot, ps. I saw a foot on the line there, may be wrong, dont have pvr. Bismarck did make a few mistakes, but his line-outs were great! He stole a few at the breakdown, and that penalty for playing the ball on the ground was sketchy to put it nicely! Lambie had a great game! Fred was better, but stil not good enough. Marcell should’ve been MOTM! Having two inexperienced props was suicidal, but they did very well considering. Sykes improved, but I know he has more to offer! Skeate was very good in the Line-outs, but nothing more. Meyer Bosman was marvelous! Timmy wil struggle to get the 12 jersey back! JPP was very good, yet again! And what more can be said about Mvovo! Viljoen had a cracker!

  • Comment 153, posted at 03.03.12 21:37:40 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • If anyone cares for an outsiders opinion on Daniels, I thought he played well today. He gave away a few penalties, but that’s only because he made sure that he was in the thick of it as often as possible, like Bissie. He made one big mistake at the end but he was trying to stop a Stormers advance that had the momentum. Go easy on the guy.

    You should however move JP back to wing. His raw pace is better suited there and there are other options for you at centre.

    On a brighter note, how about that kick from Bash eh. Cometh the hour cometh the man, and not a moment too soon.

  • Comment 154, posted at 03.03.12 21:38:19 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 152) : Yes. Alberts at 7.

  • Comment 155, posted at 03.03.12 21:38:31 by Ben Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 142) :
    Ofcourse I can, he was in the situation knowing the circumstances and the stakes but still did it, other penalties was early in the game and still time to do something and the game wasn’t on a knife’s edge.. He knew time was up and surely as a captain you encourage your players with every ruck and tackle to keep the discipline.

    Just so disappointed……

  • Comment 156, posted at 03.03.12 21:40:44 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 155) : I kind of like Alberts more at 8. Then again I would play Alberts at flyhalf if I had to, just to have him on the field.

  • Comment 157, posted at 03.03.12 21:41:01 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Leviathan (Comment 154) : Brace yourself!!!!!!!!! you said Daniels!!! :shock: :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 158, posted at 03.03.12 21:42:32 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 157) : Haha, imo it would be better to have Marcell at 8 because he is faster than Alberts. Really links up well with the backline when he’s at 8. Saw him play at 8 in the Vodacom Cup last year. He won Sharks Vodacom Cup player of the year.

  • Comment 159, posted at 03.03.12 21:44:53 by Ben Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 158) :
    eh?

  • Comment 160, posted at 03.03.12 21:46:41 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 159) : TBH I haven’t seen Marcell at 8, he is brilliant at 7 though. As an 8 who would you say Marcell plays like?

  • Comment 161, posted at 03.03.12 21:47:45 by lostfish Reply
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  • On a bright side of things. We collected a bonus point. Away bonus point is great. At home we need need to secure wins…… :cool: Just hope against the Lions we get the win and then concentrate for the bonus. Just need to win against the Reds. After that we on the road. Any win or bonus on the road is really a bonus point to us, well strictly speaking. Heck this is a long, long tourney only ending in August. Keep supporting our boys anything could happen in-beteen.

    Go Sharks.. :cool:

  • Comment 162, posted at 03.03.12 21:48:09 by Puma Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 160) : Ice is going to come down on you like a ton of bricks.

  • Comment 163, posted at 03.03.12 21:49:33 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Leviathan (Comment 160) :

    http://www.sharksworld.co.za/2012/03/01/one-final-time/

    :lol:

  • Comment 164, posted at 03.03.12 21:51:31 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 162) :
    Are you playing the Lions away or at home?

  • Comment 165, posted at 03.03.12 21:52:41 by Leviathan Reply

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  • This was a very frustrating game to watch and even more so because we could or possibly even should have won after the first half. Here’s hoping the boys do much better next week especially in terms of ruck discipline and using try-scoring opportunities.

  • Comment 166, posted at 03.03.12 21:52:43 by war1 Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 161) : Hard to say. But he passed a lot more. I think Plum tells him to take over the Alberts role and NOT to pass.

  • Comment 167, posted at 03.03.12 21:55:32 by Ben Reply

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  • Wow!

    You guys should see the comments over on Sport24. It’s like WW3 over there. It looks like Bulls supporters are more upset than you guys that you lost.

    Anyway, nighty night, and good luck for next week.

  • Comment 168, posted at 03.03.12 21:57:52 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 165) : At Kings Park ( A home game buddy) If we lose to the Lions I will feel down hearted really. Losing to the Stormers and Bulls don’t feel too bad. Both games so close. Sharks could have won both really; just no to be. Giving away too many penalties have cost us. Well that is how I feel.

    Now at home against the Lions and Reds. If we win both thosse games we head overseas on our away games on a high. Hoping to win both those games at home. Our first two games at Kings Park. Good luck to my Sharks.

  • Comment 169, posted at 03.03.12 22:00:14 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 169) : Sorry for typos there. Please ignore. I hardly ever check my posts be for I submit.

  • Comment 170, posted at 03.03.12 22:02:41 by Puma Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 164) :
    Oooooooooohh sh%t

  • Comment 171, posted at 03.03.12 22:06:30 by Leviathan Reply

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  • Frustrating 2nd half again. One thing sharks missing is a captain, IMO keegan is missing the leadership skills needed to do the job. Also wats up with plumb an moving lambie to 15 in both games? Viljion is doing a decent job there. And when will he put burden on? I also think that the players should get fined or some thing for blatant stupid penalties eg: keegans from the side at the end. There’s got to be some punishment given to the players cause ouir discipline at the break down is shocking

  • Comment 172, posted at 03.03.12 22:09:29 by scott6 Reply

     
  • By the way, why weren’t the Bulls in pink today? I was looking forward to it :(

  • Comment 173, posted at 03.03.12 22:10:22 by Leviathan Reply

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  • Woooow what a game…….

  • Comment 174, posted at 03.03.12 22:15:27 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Leviathan (Comment 173) : Congrats with the win mate,

  • Comment 175, posted at 03.03.12 22:17:03 by Franshark Reply
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  • Folks, the most concerning thing regarding this game was not the indiscretions of individuals but the way we ran out of ideas on attack. With all that possession and the Stormers constant handling errors my gut feeling is we should have come away with at least one try. Don’t know who to point the finger at but it worries me.

  • Comment 176, posted at 03.03.12 22:19:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 175) :
    Thank you china.
    But congratulate Bash for that kick. Just in from Japan and hasn’t missed a beat.
    Good luck against the Lions, good chance for you to avenge the Currie Cup final.

  • Comment 177, posted at 03.03.12 22:24:28 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 176) : I’m not that concern, we created a lot off chances and its not far from finishing them, two home wins will give us good momentum before we set sail…two losses is bad yes, but not the end….

  • Comment 178, posted at 03.03.12 22:28:39 by Franshark Reply
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  • hope we not gonna have more soggy sharks supporters after this loss, lots to be looking forward too

  • Comment 179, posted at 03.03.12 22:31:35 by Franshark Reply
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  • Look at us all a bunch of specialists. Opinions are like arseholes – we all have one. My arsehole, sorry I mean my opinion is 2 away games, 2 bonus points, long season, no tries leaked. We will get better, and this team is the team that will bring us success. Its a special team in the making… Don’t be so shortsighted… This is a special team brewing. Fairweather knobs.

  • Comment 180, posted at 03.03.12 22:31:59 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 180) : Amen brother

  • Comment 181, posted at 03.03.12 22:34:33 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 178) : I hope you’re right. I didn’t like the fact that we kicked at goal in the first half when we were right on their try line and the ref had reprimanded their forwards. It felt like we were seconds away from scoring a try or perhaps even being rewarded a penalty-try. We had the momentum and the ref’s favour. Why didn’t we back ourselves?

  • Comment 182, posted at 03.03.12 22:35:46 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 180) : Having an opinion doesn’t make one a fairweather fan. I back the selections and I’ll always back the Sharks and I’ll always have opinions about them. It’s kinda the point of Sharksworld. ;)

  • Comment 183, posted at 03.03.12 22:39:45 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 183) : it was a general point, aimed at one and all. I said we all have opinions… But we as fans need to back this team.

  • Comment 184, posted at 03.03.12 22:44:06 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 182) : the defence off both teams was so good, just think that that was a factor in the decision, I remind me to the CC final when we did not take the easier pk’s, and still did not score just too later try kick from long distance and difficult anglers ….

  • Comment 185, posted at 03.03.12 22:44:28 by Franshark Reply
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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 184) : We can have opinions and still back the team ;)

  • Comment 186, posted at 03.03.12 22:48:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @ leviathan – the Bulls will only be playing in pink against serious opposition.

  • Comment 187, posted at 03.03.12 22:52:38 by diablo Reply

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  • @ franshark 185 – talking fishing or rugby?

  • Comment 188, posted at 03.03.12 22:56:41 by diablo Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 186) : that’s right. Arseholes and opinions are not illegal. And you will notice even in my opening comment I encouraged opinions. So – we can all blaze along.

  • Comment 189, posted at 03.03.12 22:58:38 by DarkDestroyer Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 180) :
    heh…you said knob

  • Comment 190, posted at 03.03.12 23:00:17 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 187) :
    Sooo next week or what?
    The Blues are pretty serious.

  • Comment 191, posted at 03.03.12 23:04:14 by Leviathan Reply

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  • @ leviathan – why on earth would the Bulls play in their away strip at Loftus? Nee, jong, kom by…

  • Comment 192, posted at 03.03.12 23:11:02 by diablo Reply

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  • Disappointing game and result again.

    Almost a carbon copy of last weekend’s game. Tight first half and then our indiscipline cost us again. If Joe Peterson had got his kicks as Morne Steyn did last weekend we wouldn’t be semi-self congratulating the team…

    I will say it once more, the captaincy just does not sit very well on Keegan’s shoulders. I do not believe that he can even command a starting position for every game so I foresee difficulties with this John Smit-esque captain reservation. However, in spite of giving away his usual brace of penalties he still had one of his better games for a while – but I really don’t think he should be captain, it seems to weigh him down.

    To win the title you really need to win the conference and win it well to give yourself a home semi. To win the conference you really have to beat at least one of the Bulls or Stormers away from home. Our job is now a very difficult one. There will now also be incredible pressure on the Sharks to win the return fixtures against the Stormers and Bulls at home, indeed to win every game from now if we want to seriously challenge this season.

    Oh well.

  • Comment 193, posted at 03.03.12 23:12:50 by siorc Reply

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  • @DarkDestroyer (Comment 189) : So just to clarify who qualifies as ‘fairweather knobs’?

  • Comment 194, posted at 03.03.12 23:18:47 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 192) :
    Well hang on, if it’s an away strip then why didn’t they play it today. If it really is only for big opposition I think it’s a little unfair to the teams that the Bulls don’t consider good enough.

    Besides, I would have thought that the Bulls would want to try out that whole distract the opposition thing.

    Congrats for the win today BTW.

  • Comment 195, posted at 03.03.12 23:20:06 by Leviathan Reply

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  • We’ll b playing it in only 4 matches (pity) – we don’t seem to need help in distracting the oppo – they seem to ne pretty inept all on their own – IMO

  • Comment 196, posted at 03.03.12 23:25:37 by diablo Reply

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  • And, by the way, imagine the cheeters beings thrashed like this by the Pink Bulls – shame, horror, pass me the arsenic-type-of-stuff – LMAO!!

  • Comment 197, posted at 03.03.12 23:29:58 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 196) :
    only four?
    do you know which ones?

  • Comment 198, posted at 03.03.12 23:33:37 by Leviathan Reply

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  • Talking under correction, but only overseas games. And mbe the stormers, but plse don,t quote me

  • Comment 199, posted at 03.03.12 23:44:32 by diablo Reply

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  • @Leviathan (Comment 198) : @diablo (Comment 199) : A team’s away strip is to be worn vs. local opposition when their home colours may conflict with that opposition, and on any overseas tour games, unless their away strip conflicts with the colours of the opposition, in which case they will revert back to their home strip.
    Thus all 5 S.A. teams will wear their home colour in S.A. unless the colours are similar, Sharks’ black vs. Stormers’ navy or Cheetahs’ white vs. Lions’ white or Stormers’ navy vs. Bulls’ blue, in which case the home team plays in home colours (prepare for a pink Newlands). The pink jersey will be worn 5 times this year

  • Comment 200, posted at 03.03.12 23:58:46 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • Thanks, Kriek, I thought a much. Hope the BBRU also make pink flags available!

  • Comment 201, posted at 04.03.12 00:08:44 by diablo Reply

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  • I thought Botes tossing the ball aimlessly and dangerously into the air and JPP holding back a pouncing Habana were far greater sins than Daniel coming in from the side in a ruck where he thought the ball was out, and from a position that was so far wide on the field he probably judged it worth the risk because it was unlikely it would go over from there (damn you Grant)

  • Comment 202, posted at 04.03.12 06:33:49 by CS Reply

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  • I thought Bissie was brilliant at stealing the ball tonight, and maybe with more support he wouldn’t have given away so many penalties. But as fetcher he will always be the one giving away more penalties than the others… And at least one of those was very harsh after an excellent steal

  • Comment 203, posted at 04.03.12 06:37:14 by CS Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 202) : PS: Herbst diving aimlessly over the ball when Bissie had secured ANOTHER turnover right in front of their posts was IMO another example of a brain fart way worse than anything Daniel or Bissie produced

    My point, I think in the emotion of a pointless loss you guys are pointing fingers at the wrong people. Luckily Plum selects his team with less emotion than most of you guys!

  • Comment 204, posted at 04.03.12 06:41:53 by CS Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 192) : Nee jong die Bulle moet by kom. :razz: :wink:

    Why on earth would they play in their home strip away from loftus?

    The bulls need to catch a wake up and call it their “alternate” strip, because I believe it will only be worn if the blue strip clashes with the home team’s colours.

  • Comment 205, posted at 04.03.12 07:44:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • My fellow Sharks, don’t know how we lost the game last night but what I can say is that I’m proud of the boys. As I wrote last week, it’s early days and the competition isn’t won after the 2nd round. Yes, victories are important but the most important thing for me at this stage bearing in mind that we didn’t have much of a preseason in terms of game time, is the way we play. Last night showed a huge upward curve, long may it continue to rise. We’ve had two games now so no more excuses. I want results and won’t be as accommodating if we lose more games. Well done to the boys, a special mention must go to Coetzee (he needs to be in the match 22 when Alberts and Deysel are fit, outplayed Kolisi), Bissie, Lambie, Bosman (told you he’ll come around), JPP, Freddie, Skeate, Herbst, Chadwick..stuff it, everyone played well. Need to work on our discipline. Loved the tempo of the game.

  • Comment 206, posted at 04.03.12 07:55:58 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @CS (Comment 204) : if i’ve observed anything about plumtree he is going to roast these players in public sometime in the near future – could be this week… :-)

  • Comment 207, posted at 04.03.12 08:05:32 by Megatron Reply

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  • Once again our disipline let us down.

  • Comment 208, posted at 04.03.12 08:14:10 by JarsonX Reply
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  • I’m excited, when the Sharks start a season playing this well it ends up with us playing in the final. Guys, we are missing Alberts, Deysel and Beast, look at things in context.

  • Comment 209, posted at 04.03.12 08:25:49 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Bosman was good; but he isn’t a good combo with JPP, jp wants space to run onto, he doesn’t wasn’t to get the ball right on the advantage line.

    P.Jordaan needs to come in at 14…he is the only guy in our 22 who hasn’t been given a proper run…especially against the loose Lions, Jordaan could have a great starting debut.

    The team i hope is selected, we can’t drop Bissie and Keegan as much as we want to after last night :smile:

    1.Chadwick
    2.Bissie
    3.Jannnie
    4.Sykes…was back to his best yesterday, we should maybe start bresler at 4 in a game soon so Sykes can stay fresh.
    5.Skeate
    6.Botes
    7.Coetzee
    8.Keegan
    9.Mcloed
    10.Lambie
    11.Mvovo
    12.Whitehead, hopefully he is fit for selection this week.
    13.JPP
    14.Jordaan
    15.Viljoen
    16.Burden…must come on with 60 to go, bissie needs some rest.
    17.Herbst
    18.Roberts…Chadwick needs to get some rest.
    19.Bresler
    20.Alberts
    21.Fred
    22.Bosman

    Sharks need 10 points from our next 2 home games to leave for tour with 12 points from 4 games is solid; then when we come back from tour we must make sure we reverse those away results to the Bulls and Stormers. Sharks should’ve got that draw last night…lost 2 points there…need to make up for that with Bonus point wins in the next 2 weeks.

    C’mon Sharks!!!

  • Comment 210, posted at 04.03.12 08:31:19 by JJR Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 209) : Yes, and 2 really difficult away games…and we could have won both had we not given away the amount of silly penalties we did. Hope that is sorted out.

  • Comment 211, posted at 04.03.12 08:37:02 by JJR Reply
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  • Sharks supporters still alive!?!?

    I thought your heads would’ve exploded (like the fembots from Austin Powers) trying to process how a Stormers front-row could fold a Sharks front-row, or a Stormers loose-forward, one who’s previously been ridiculed on this website, got MOTM against a Sharks team loaded with so much depth in the position. :lol:

    On a more serious note, the Sharks, IMO, just have gaps. The balance isn’t perfect and they lack some direction. Many of the players have still been very very impressive. Definitely see what you lot have seen in Marcell Coetzee, very good player.

    And also a bit harsh on Bissie. Thought he had an alright game.

  • Comment 212, posted at 04.03.12 09:04:08 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 212) :
    Stormers scrum monstered the Sharks. I think some folks need to be more realistic about Chadwick – he still has some way to go. But Klitshof was quality.

    Funny thing about the loosies – I was thinking how come, with all that loose forward depth, and the Sharks missing 3 Bok loosies, ours still out-played yours?

    Oh I heard that Koster won MOTM – but even you must admit that was a joke. Coetzee was by far the best player out there yesterday, and while I haven’t checked the stats, I think their was more yardage and steals from our guys.

    Stormers defence and overall discipline (especially at the breakdown) was as good as one has come to expect. Ac is a quality coach.

  • Comment 213, posted at 04.03.12 09:28:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 213) :

    :|

    Koster deserved it. Had an excellent game. Need to forget about what you previously thought about him, and judge him on his performances.

    But yes, Marcell Coetzee was right up there also.

  • Comment 214, posted at 04.03.12 09:39:14 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 212) : I’ve warned you before about taking the “gloating” approach here…

  • Comment 215, posted at 04.03.12 09:42:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 215) :

    Ag relax it was all in good fun. Got your panties in a twist?

    Waiting for an explanation from you for Herbst by the way. You were telling us how powerful he was before this weekend. Got drilled by a 19-year old hey.

  • Comment 216, posted at 04.03.12 09:49:05 by hendrikp Reply

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  • I thought Klitshoff, Coetzee and Etsebeth were the standouts of the youngsters, with Kolisi and Mthembu showing promise. Chadwick performance was the biggest disappointment, and I still don’t get the hype surrounding Koster; I thought he was competent at best, no more.

  • Comment 217, posted at 04.03.12 09:49:08 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 214) : Without a doubt, Coetzee was the best loose forward on the field! Keegan plays well at 8 and it might be a good idea to keep him there as he offers us more from that position. We are going to have to seriously think about moving Coetzee to 6 and have him, Alberts and Keegan as loose forward combination with Deysel on the bench.

  • Comment 218, posted at 04.03.12 09:51:35 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 216) : Don’t have an explanation – I was as surprised as you were.

  • Comment 219, posted at 04.03.12 09:53:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • Adam Byrnes banned for 10 weeks for eye-gouging, Hougaard gets one week.

  • Comment 220, posted at 04.03.12 09:53:48 by Seth101 Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 217) :
    That’s the way I saw it, although for a guy with such a great physique, Kolisi looses the ball in the tackle too easily.

    @hendrikp (Comment 214) :
    You will learn that I always call it as I see it. Hence me marking down Herbst (whom I really rate) and Chadwick (whom I’m less confident about, despite him also being a Westville Old Boy.

    Koster was ok, but certainly nothing special. Klisthof and especially Coetzee set the marker for the youngsters yesterday, and if you can’t see that, then you are not being objective.

  • Comment 221, posted at 04.03.12 09:56:04 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 221) :

    I agree, but would put Koster up there with them.

    Huge workload, and he’s added a physical edge to his game. Pops up at the right time making important tackles and actually making crucial runs through the middle.

    I said it a few weeks ago… Springbok by the end of this year. Meyer will go for a guy who will add HUGE variation as a number-8. Not many more dangerous runners in the game, and he’s definitely working on his weaknesses.

  • Comment 222, posted at 04.03.12 10:02:40 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 222) : I can’t agree.

    I think Meyer will not opt for broken-field runners at 8 (which makes it unlikely that Kanko or Daniel will smell a Bok jersey soon), and Koster is not strong enough to dominate in the collisions or break the line in the tight.

    I agree with an earlier statement that Pat won’t be a Bok 10 as long as his kicking percentage is under 80%, and along with that kind of gameplan, the 7 and 8 Meyer will play will be similar players – like a Schalk and Juan/ Alberts or (left-field) Coetzee combo.

    If I had to choose a player for the Sharks from the Stormers loosies, I would pick Koster after Kolisi, who I think is still improving and will be even better in years to come.

  • Comment 223, posted at 04.03.12 10:11:11 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 223) : Kolisi is a bit of a gem, yes… Koster, to me, is over-hyped and overrated and I cannot believe he one MOTM ahead of Coetzee, who was easily twice as good.

  • Comment 224, posted at 04.03.12 10:19:46 by robdylan Reply
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  • Made the trip down to Newlands yesterday , must say the guys looked focus from the practise run and into the game , Viljoen had a great game as did JP and Bosman, Lambie was not at his best but did okay , just disappointed at Keegan once again letting over eagerness get the better of him, and lastly, I almost forgot why I seldom go to Newlands even though I stay close by…, oh yes , I remember , because their supporters at the ground has no Class , the constant Booing when opposition player takes a shot at goal or when the Sharks players ran past practicing is appalling!!!!

  • Comment 225, posted at 04.03.12 11:04:34 by morne1 Reply

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  • Sharks will be awesome next week just watch…i wanted the Sharks to get at least 4 points out of the 1st 2 games; but hopefully they will make up for it…we need 10 from the next 2.

    I know The Sharks will just keep getting better…Alberts coming back; in a couple of weeks Deysel back…it is all good!! Just hope Plum rotates…Chadwick is gonna need a rest soon, so we need to get our Loan signing ready.

  • Comment 226, posted at 04.03.12 11:05:46 by JJR Reply
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  • :mrgreen: Made the trip down to Newlands yesterday , must say the guys looked focus from the practise run and into the game , Viljoen had a great game as did JP and Bosman, Lambie was not at his best but did okay , just disappointed at Keegan once again letting over eagerness get the better of him, and lastly, I almost forgot why I seldom go to Newlands even though I stay close by…, oh yes , I remember , because their supporters at the ground has no Class , the constant Booing when opposition player takes a shot at goal or when the Sharks players ran past practicing is appalling!!!! :!:

  • Comment 227, posted at 04.03.12 11:06:03 by morne1 Reply

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  • Taking it a bit far with the observation that Coetzee was twice as good,Nick Koster though had a fine game and was immense for the Stormers on a night where most of their forwards had butterfingers,he brought about good momentum when clearly some of his teammates were hellbent on halting it. Defensively he did a solid job,while Coetzee was probably the best loosie,Koster was the best player in a team that somewhat was destined to lose had the Sharks been on the beat last night,tell you what though Stormers have some fine youngsters in that side. Koster I also might have a shot at the Boks this year. The Stormers centres are rubbish though,should’ve held onto Sam Lane,while he was a brilliant flyhalf,he had the makings of a very good inside centre and stick JP du Plessis at outside centre,for leadership purposes persist with Jean at 12,Juan de Jongh,good impact player,he got by in the 2010 because of the unknown factor,but now he’s a big no for me particularly for the Boks,how good did Wynand look for the Bulls

  • Comment 228, posted at 04.03.12 11:26:30 by Ludz Reply

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  • Sharks got such a raw deal with the fixtures, i mean who wants to play away games against Bulls and Stormers 1st up? It Sucks, could’ve won both had the discipline been better and that is encouraging going forward into a “easier” run of home fixtures. Fix the discipline and get Alberts, Deysel and Beast fit and we can def. have that chance at lifting the title…But it is key that we Beat Bulls and Stormers at Kings Park later in the tournament. Gotta finish Top of the conference…away knockout games are always a mission.

  • Comment 229, posted at 04.03.12 11:39:56 by JJR Reply
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  • No tries conceded away against Stormers and Bulls…great stuff. I thought we gonna be great on attack this year not great on defence :lol:

  • Comment 230, posted at 04.03.12 11:47:44 by JJR Reply
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  • Please Mr Plumtree, Fred at 9 is costing us all the innovative back play we have envisioned from this team.

    We COULD have a potent back line…….. :idea:

  • Comment 231, posted at 04.03.12 11:51:05 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Seriously, we never looked like winning the game, even when we had the Stormers on the back foot.

    And again our discipline was rubbish.

    Hope it´s not another loooong season :sad:

  • Comment 232, posted at 04.03.12 12:14:27 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 222) : No :lol: Koster was 2nd to Kolisi(who made some great tackles).The Stormers back-row :?: :?: Poor old Etzebeth and Kolisi the only two who stood up.

    Coetzee was awesome .
    No hendrikp Koster is no where near the Bok 8 jersey.

  • Comment 233, posted at 04.03.12 12:15:42 by Talent Reply
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  • The most concerning thing for me was the Sharks failure to capitalise in the opposition 22, they looked good in open play but just came up empty handed when searching for ideas on how to finish.

    Set piece has been a problem for some time and it doesn’t seem to be a major concern for Plumtree.

    I’ll say it again ,if I were a Stormer fan I would be troubled . The Sharks played poorly, away from home with a new look side and a lightweight pack, experiments all over the backline and still managed to dominate possession and territory in the first half.
    I’m not too worried about the Sharks, some of the players are struggling with form (Bismarck and Daniel, our two breakdown specialists) but then reflecting on most of the games breakdown specialists seem to be struggling under the way the refs blow that facet of play. Fix the set piece and implore the guys to build more phases on attack and things may turn around nicely for us, oh and with Alberts and Deysel returning it adds considerable experience and grunt to our pack.

  • Comment 234, posted at 04.03.12 12:30:07 by Talent Reply
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  • Talent you’ve got it awfully wrong if you think Kolisi was better than Koster last night

  • Comment 235, posted at 04.03.12 12:33:16 by Ludz Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 98) :

    and here i was being told the Cheetahs wont finish last …

  • Comment 236, posted at 04.03.12 12:42:23 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 236) : Like always, we never know what we gonna get from the cheetahs…looks like their lack of consistentcy is gonna kill them this year…it’s okay they can get relegated and The Sharks will take Brussouw off their hands ;-)

  • Comment 237, posted at 04.03.12 13:30:00 by JJR Reply
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  • Cheetahs and Sharks to fight it out for the wooden spoon,gonna put my neck on the line and say Bulls will top the SA conference,Cheetahs are nowhere without their senior players,not too chuffed with their 2nd row,their midfied lacks creativity,Goosen uncomfortable under pressure. Hennie Daniller solid at the back,but is woefully 1-dimensional on attack. The creator in this team is Sias Ebersohn,but he spends more time on the wood. Lions need someone else on the right wing and I’ve never liked Franco van der Merwe,a bit overrated,sometimes a youngster needs to be groomed,Ruan Botha is their answer there,a bit young,but has all the potential to be a star at no.5. Bondesio,good scrummy,but am sure a fit and an on form Ross Cronje would offer a bit more than Bondesio. Watch out for Pat Cilliers could surprise few with a Bok call-up . Stormers,their youngsters all looking good,all their loose forwards look like classy players. Etzebeth,he’s another 1 I think will don the Bok jersey soon,you certainly can’t find fault with that pack,though their handling left much to be desired last night. Grant into the starting line up as soon as possible,GvA is rubbish,equally rubbish are both the guys outside him. Habana tries very hard,his commitment is commendable. Sharks,they are just rubbish,lost two games that they should’ve won,Michalak isn’t a quality 9. Ludik is nowhere on the wing. Bosman is playing some good rugby. Marcell you beauty. Lambie has done reasonably well,will Burden ever get a time on the park. Bulls doing okay at the moment,while last night was a great performance,the Cheetahs were awful. Adriaan Strauss was fighting a 1 man battle. Still think Zane is 1 dimensional,Basson must surely be the winger under the high ball in world rugby right now. Welcome back Wynand. Am I the only who saw a minor improvement in big Flip van der Merwe? Spies and Potgieter looked pretty good. Hougaard is dynamite,this lad is gonna win many matches for the Bulls and Boks. Our front row did really well. Steyn was a bit flatter. We can all take heart from the fact that the Australain teams are playing the way they are,but the Cheetahs based on that performance would made the Rebels look good

  • Comment 238, posted at 04.03.12 14:07:46 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 238) :
    Sigh… (*Exercises great self-restraint*) :roll:

  • Comment 239, posted at 04.03.12 14:22:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Sharks gonna fight it out for the wooden spoon you reckon? And this after the 1st 2 games? :roll:

  • Comment 240, posted at 04.03.12 14:26:10 by Ben Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 239) : It burns from the inside. :razz:

  • Comment 241, posted at 04.03.12 14:27:53 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 240) : some statements also amaze me Ben. It’s only the second round and people are already making wild statements. Anyway, didn’t the Bulls loose their first game in 2010 at home and went on to win the competition in that year?

  • Comment 242, posted at 04.03.12 14:48:24 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 238) : Are you high!? The Sharks played 2 away games against 2 teams with very equal quality and The Sharks have Alberts, Deysel, Beast, Hargreaves, Kanko and Hoffmann out injured. Also Sharks could’ve won both games had they not given away some stupid penalties and had the ref not made some bad calls.

    Sharks are gonna pump the lions this coming weekend, no doubt in that. Who do u support?…Stormers? If so, Bru we almost be you with 5 springboks injured and a yellow card, and the Ref made 2 dodge calls against The Sharks 2nd half…so think before u type my friend! Wait till teams have to take us on Full Strength and at Kings Park, Sharks gonna be great…remember Stormers and Bulls still have to come to Durban…so make ur call after the result of those 2 games.

  • Comment 243, posted at 04.03.12 14:50:24 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 237) :

    Then again the Lions probably have the same problem .. very worried about next week against the Sharks . Going to be very tough

  • Comment 244, posted at 04.03.12 14:51:49 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 242) : We got 2 points in very difficult away games and 5 Boks out injured…not a train smash…people are very short minded. Sharks gonna pump the Lions this weekend…and i will bet The Sharks will have the best tour in terms of results compared to all the other SA teams…i know its gonna happen. Deysel also back when the tour comes around, and i like the draw we got for the tour.

    Go Sharks!!!

  • Comment 245, posted at 04.03.12 14:53:11 by JJR Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 244) : I actually think Lions will perform consistently this year; but don’t know if it will be at a level that will earn them too many wins.

    No Disrespect at all; but if it Stays dry in Durban on Saturday and the pitch is in good condition after all the rain they getting right now…The Sharks will get a Bonus point victory over the Lions :smile: But i do think Lions will push The Sharks hard the first 40 minutes.

  • Comment 246, posted at 04.03.12 14:58:18 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 246) :

    We will see . The Lions tend to surprise . im sure mitch will smack the guys around this week and get them ready for the game .

  • Comment 247, posted at 04.03.12 15:10:54 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 247) : We Shall see indeed…

  • Comment 248, posted at 04.03.12 15:12:14 by JJR Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 247) :

    if we end up having a kicking contest i think the Lions might be in with a shout .

  • Comment 249, posted at 04.03.12 15:13:06 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 248) :
    “Pump” the Lions? Famous last words – like 2011 CC Final perhaps?

    The Sharks will be very happy if we get away with 4 points next week – and so will I.

  • Comment 250, posted at 04.03.12 15:46:27 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 250) : This is Super rugby, not Currie Cup and whilst the focus must be on winning deep down I will be disappointed if the Sharks cannot beat the Lions at home with a bonus point (said with as much humility as possible).

    After slipping up in the first two games, we need to target the four games against the Lions and Cheetahs for bonus point wins if we have any ambition of winning the conference. We don’t play the Rebels this year so we miss that guaranteed 5 pointer, but then we don’t play the Crusaders either so that neutralises not playing the Rebels.

  • Comment 251, posted at 04.03.12 15:59:34 by siorc Reply

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  • To support my previous comment, again with as much humility as possible, one need only look at the Sharks’ record against the Lions in Super rugby to say that this really is a match we should be targeting for a win AND a bonus point.

    Bonus points or rather the lack of them is something which has prematurely ended the Sharks season in the past.

    Since 1998 played 16 won 12 lost 2 drawn 2 and the average score is 30-17. We have not lost to the Lions since 2001.

  • Comment 252, posted at 04.03.12 16:06:41 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 251) :

    i still think your making a mistake if you think it will be a walk in the park . i think it might be close .

  • Comment 253, posted at 04.03.12 16:10:47 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 252) :

    Records are made to be broken :P

    but yes the Sharks will be going into the Match as favorites (and thats the way i like it )

  • Comment 254, posted at 04.03.12 16:11:54 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 253) : Oh I fully agree.

  • Comment 255, posted at 04.03.12 16:14:17 by siorc Reply

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  • This system of not playing certain teams makes the comp a bit of a farce.

    Not playing the Crusaders this year makes it all feel a little hollow and somehow not real.

    Or is it just me?

  • Comment 256, posted at 04.03.12 16:16:04 by siorc Reply

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  • @Zibbie (Comment 254) : Don’t even get me started on that! :smile: I have a big problem with the South African psyche which dictates only getting up for a game when an underdog.

  • Comment 257, posted at 04.03.12 16:18:35 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 252) : well, can’t complain about this season then! We’ve got bonus points in both of our last two games! :mrgreen:

  • Comment 258, posted at 04.03.12 16:21:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hahahaha,was joking gents,the tournament is very long,just felt like stirring the pot with you Sharkies,but my observation on some of the players remain very true

  • Comment 259, posted at 04.03.12 16:24:08 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 250) : We should Win no problems, that Lions “team work” thing can only last so long…their players are trying to be individuals, again…their chances of beating us in Superugby will always be low.

  • Comment 260, posted at 04.03.12 16:25:08 by JJR Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 258) : Haha. No seriously, I was talking more about winning bonus points. But hey, if we are to lose better with a point than none.

  • Comment 261, posted at 04.03.12 16:25:17 by siorc Reply

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  • @ JJR – careful, Karma is a bitch!

  • Comment 262, posted at 04.03.12 16:36:26 by diablo Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 262) : I know, i’ve met her before…but i told her off, she won’t be back…i’m confident ;-)

  • Comment 263, posted at 04.03.12 16:46:32 by JJR Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 262) :
    Exactamundo.

    Hubris is such an over-rated characteristic.

  • Comment 264, posted at 04.03.12 16:54:49 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Just for interest sakes,Sundowns FC just beat Powerlines FC…24-0,you’d be forgiven for thinking these are actually rugby clubs

  • Comment 265, posted at 04.03.12 17:00:57 by Ludz Reply

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  • @ JJR – good for u, pity she does not play by JJR-rules though.

  • Comment 266, posted at 04.03.12 17:03:19 by diablo Reply

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  • I would rather demand too much from my team than not demand enough. Never been one for accepting mediocrity from my team. Winning is, after all, the point of rugby.

  • Comment 267, posted at 04.03.12 17:05:32 by siorc Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 266) : Reason why the comments i make are backed by some scientifically proven facts ;-) :lol:

  • Comment 268, posted at 04.03.12 17:08:05 by JJR Reply
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  • No 6 nations thread today?

  • Comment 269, posted at 04.03.12 17:09:57 by lostfish Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 267) : Very True, one will never reach their full potential without pushing ur self to the Limits one thought would not be possible…Sharks have the abilities and capabilities to win every game they play…so they should then win every game they play :smile:

  • Comment 270, posted at 04.03.12 17:10:31 by JJR Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 269) : People are still recovering from the dissapointment of last night…can really take a lot out of a person :smile:

  • Comment 271, posted at 04.03.12 17:11:54 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 271) : Meh, I would be disappointed if I thought the Sharks deserved to win. My disappointment is reserved for the way they played and lost. They are better than that and need to find their mojo.

  • Comment 272, posted at 04.03.12 17:15:09 by lostfish Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 267) :
    And as a fan that is predictable. But if you want to be constructive, then you have to tailor your expectations to proven ability and circumstance.

    And in that context, the Sharks will do well to beat a Lions side that is on an upward curve, with the form flyhalf in SR so far.

  • Comment 273, posted at 04.03.12 17:23:33 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 273) : The Lions lost to the Hurricanes at home. They are in an even worse place than the Sharks are.

    We really should expect them to beat the Lions at home.

    Let’s break it down even more simplistically. There is no conceivable significant difference between the Sharks and Bulls (at least there shouldn’t be) and yet the Bulls have won super rugby THREE times. Their fans would expect the Bulls to beat the Lions at home, and comfortably too. Says it all really.

  • Comment 274, posted at 04.03.12 17:28:36 by siorc Reply

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  • @ JJR – 2007, guppie-bowl – ring a scientifically proven bell?

  • Comment 275, posted at 04.03.12 17:37:33 by diablo Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 272) : I watched the game over this morning…i think the draw would’ve been a fair result, don’t think either team deserved a win, personally.

  • Comment 276, posted at 04.03.12 17:45:18 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 276) : I agree

  • Comment 277, posted at 04.03.12 17:47:16 by Franshark Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 188) : oops, blerrie auto correct

  • Comment 278, posted at 04.03.12 17:49:31 by Franshark Reply
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  • @sioric – any supporter who expects their team to beat team “x” “y” or “z” comfortably is in for so much dissapointment. Bouce of the ball, 50 50 decisionsN refs decisions, usually dependable players screwing up ….

  • Comment 279, posted at 04.03.12 17:51:28 by diablo Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 246) : Where do you stay JJR? Not in Durban I think I have just come back from DBN and they are closing roads due to floods. We were at my sisters house she stais in Venice road Morningside litterally up the road from KP and their driveway is ankle deep in water, KP is lower down than my sister they must be just as soaked, and they expect this rain to continue till Wed and Thurs. Its going to affect training and I doubt it would be dry by Sat. Its the reason I have come on to ask those in the know, came on what will happen if this torrential rain/floods carry on and the pitch is not fit to play? Do we each get two points – or play away this week and play at home when we have to play them at home? This could affect our chances at play offs :(

  • Comment 280, posted at 04.03.12 18:00:34 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 274) :
    Awfully subjective.

    The Lions are worse off than us? They already have a victory in the bag. And before anyone mentions home-ground advantage, ask one of the long-time bloggers about how “the Stormers still have to tour”. 4 Points on the log are better than 5 in the bush.

    And seriously, the Bulls have won 3 SR titles to our zero – I think its patently clear that their is a very significant difference there; they were the better team then, and according to our last match-up, they still are.

    This Sharks team as great potential – but right now its all still potential. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. Especially since another loss will likely see many fans breaking out the sackcloth and ashes pretty hurriedly.

  • Comment 281, posted at 04.03.12 18:02:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 281) :

    we also had to do uncontested scrums for like half the game . im not making excuses but i recon it will be more tight then some people think . But who knows with the Lions haha .

  • Comment 282, posted at 04.03.12 18:10:06 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 279) :
    Absolutely!

    And that’s a frustration I have been having lately. So many people posting lately as if rugby (and life) is so predictable.

    As if 1 or 2 games is enough to prophesy a team’s season, or a player’s career on. Its awfully naïve. But its strangely common nowadays.

  • Comment 283, posted at 04.03.12 18:10:34 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 280) : Don’t live in Durban; but i’ve checked many weather reports on sites and news channels, and it sounds the rain will slow down by tuesday; but It could be overcast pretty much the whole week. But they have said it could change…i just hope there is some bright sun, Friday and Saturday…want a good pitch and dry conditions so that our backs can get going on saturday.

    This weather system is worrying indeed…hope it clears well before weekend.

  • Comment 284, posted at 04.03.12 18:18:23 by JJR Reply
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  • @ Bif Fish 281 – a voice of reason in the wilderness! Personally, I am now so stressed out – the Bulls aint coming to the party what with topping the log! we traditionally start at a slow pace & were told we’d b in for relegation honours this year! This is just all too much to absorb….!

  • Comment 285, posted at 04.03.12 18:27:59 by diablo Reply

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  • Bracing myself for another week of motivational articles and calls to keep a cool head. :roll:

  • Comment 286, posted at 04.03.12 18:32:53 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @diablo (Comment 285) : Bulls have their mentality right, and they playing the right gameplan and playing as a team…well from only first 2 games…many more games to come and a lot of chances for teams to come right and for teams to buckle under the stress of a difficult Superugby tournament.

  • Comment 287, posted at 04.03.12 18:35:02 by JJR Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 286) : True Dat… :lol:

  • Comment 288, posted at 04.03.12 18:35:44 by JJR Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 286) :

    Dont stress to much . you have a easy game coming up :P

  • Comment 289, posted at 04.03.12 18:38:58 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 289) : You said it :smile:

  • Comment 290, posted at 04.03.12 18:41:39 by JJR Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 289) : If you start without Minnie we`ll start without Bissie ? :twisted:

  • Comment 291, posted at 04.03.12 18:44:32 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 286) :
    Well, all understandable considered the feast or famine mentality on here sometimes.

    Expecting to win every game leads to declarations of a State of Emergency at the first few speed bumps.

    @Zibbie (Comment 289) :
    Don’t you start now!

  • Comment 292, posted at 04.03.12 18:45:17 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 281) : The Sharks have competed in 3 super rugby finals. The same number as the Bulls.

    The Sharks have reached the play off phase on 7 occasions in super rugby, the Bulls on 6 occasions.

    Again, there is no conceivable reason why the Bulls are presently sitting with 3 champions medals and the Sharks none.

    Sharks need to pull finger and the fans need to drop the acceptance of mediocrity which has been accepted for far too long.

  • Comment 293, posted at 04.03.12 18:46:45 by siorc Reply

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  • Wish we were so lucky – never any rasy games for us! Even the 0bulldogs could beat us (it’s leap year, after sll)

  • Comment 294, posted at 04.03.12 18:55:47 by diablo Reply

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  • If Andries Bekker and company think the Bok number 5 jersey is theirs for the taking, they better think twice, very happy with Skeate’s performance last night. Can’t wait for the stats..

  • Comment 295, posted at 04.03.12 18:57:53 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @diablo (Comment 294) : There is absolutely no easy games for the Sharks so don’t mistake any comment here as being arrogant. The Sharks never really put teams away, it’s mostly always nail biting, edge of the seat stuff, very strenuous on the heart and health being a Sharks fan. So even when we win, we do it the hard way.

  • Comment 296, posted at 04.03.12 19:00:56 by siorc Reply

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  • I can’t believe how everyone’s got their knickers in a twist over this game. To me it boils down to two points, namely:
    1) The Sharks will have to improve radically if they are to be genuine contenders, but
    2) For the first time in years, one actually gets the sense that a constructive effort is going in towards addressing our shortfalls
    Proclaiming us as title contenders is premature, but at least it looks like we’ll have more to smile about and less hair to tear out than in previous years

  • Comment 297, posted at 04.03.12 19:03:01 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 293) :
    You are strengthening my point by pointing out these similarities, because despite the similarities of those stats, the one team has achieved huge success, and the other, only moderate.

    That prompts the question of why. Looking at the Bulls prior to their golden years, one can see many seasons of failure, and some radical rethinking, which still goes on today – all the way through their union.

    And that’s the point – success sometimes needs to be achieved methodically, and enduring success requires sustainable planning – not just bold expectations.

  • Comment 298, posted at 04.03.12 19:09:52 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 284) : I hope u r right, I was at first pnicking cause we stay on a flood plane, they say its a 100 year one but who knows with these upsy turvy weather patterns. Then we went to my sisters and I saw Umgeni road and the torrential rain and then I really started panicking about something even more important – the match on Saturday :shock:

  • Comment 299, posted at 04.03.12 19:17:12 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 299) : I propose a change of venue.

    How about Newlands? Lots of shark support here . . . :mrgreen:

  • Comment 300, posted at 04.03.12 19:32:05 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 291) :

    No thats not fair !! you take off a walking penalty and we take off our best player :P

    @JJR (Comment 290) :

    Just repeating what ive been told :P

    @Big Fish (Comment 292) :

    Come on . its no fun if we cant reff things up a bit before the game . :twisted: haha

  • Comment 301, posted at 04.03.12 19:37:20 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Greatsharksays,you are seriously confused if you think Ross Skeate will challenge Andries Bekker and Juandre Kruger for the no.5 jersey. In fact both no.4s will come from the Stormers and Bulls also,while it is notably that Flip van der Merwe isn’t on top form currently,South Africa isn’t exactly overflowing with no.4 locks that are in the form of their lives,well maybe Eben Etzebeth is the exception,while I have no doubt that the lad will be a capped Bok this year,a little wet behind the ears to be thrust immediately into the Bok engine room,so probably a Bekker-van der Merwe combo as 1st choice,Kruger to come off the bench with Etzebeth getting a game here and there,worst case scenario where 1 of our no.5 locks is injured would see Skeate selected (lost all confidence in Al Hargreaves)

  • Comment 302, posted at 04.03.12 19:51:18 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 300) : not fair though I have been waiting for this home game for 5 months! :evil: :)

  • Comment 303, posted at 04.03.12 19:51:50 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • skeate is so so…he is not even pushing juandre kruger who seems to exude class & is far more mobile & instinctive in his reading of the game. Skeate will smell Bok jersey in an injury crisis.

  • Comment 304, posted at 04.03.12 19:53:09 by Megatron Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 293) : Agree 100% @Culling Song (Comment 297) : I don’t think there is too much to improve, we could’ve won both games had discipline been even average…main thing is discipline which is simply a mental attitude, and we also need some of our BIG names fit, again. Alberts back this week will be a big help…and i will also not stop saying that Du toit needs to be given a shot at 7 and get a bench spot…i believe he is a better Lock than Bresler amd Marais; and he is also a very capable ball carrying option…i think momentum has been a huge impact on our performance in the first 2 games.

    We showed lots of guts(Our Pack was 50kg lighter) against Stormers; but that means expending more energy, which impacts on our ability to finish off. We need some Big men back in our pack…the balance was totally off these last 2 games. The Pack against Stormers was one of the Lightest i have seen in a very long while from The Sharks.

    Yes, we have injured players, but i don’t understand why Du Toit was overlooked…a ball carrier doesn’t need experience to carry the ball up well.

  • Comment 305, posted at 04.03.12 19:56:25 by JJR Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 300) : I just checked some more reports and it looks like all will be good from Tuesday…so no worries…think Kings Park will be fine.

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  • Getting carried away a bit now JJR,while PSdT made a huge impact at u21 level last year,Bresler and Marais were making huge strides in the Currie Cup and now all of a sudden he’s better than both. I simply can’t agree

  • Comment 307, posted at 04.03.12 20:07:31 by Ludz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 302) : “lost all confidence in Al Hargreaves”. You are not the only one :( but I hope that when he is fit again he is in the form of his life and makes me eat humble pie.

  • Comment 308, posted at 04.03.12 20:09:24 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • Just learned that Marcell got MOTM at the WP sharks supporters! Well deserved and was deffo the best loosie on the field! If he keeps on playing like that @ flank, I doubt Plum is gonna give him a shot at 8! He was all over the park with his now famous “lion attacking a buck” type of tackle – it’s beautiful to watch!

  • Comment 309, posted at 04.03.12 20:12:34 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ludz (Comment 307) : U don’t have to, its my opinion :smile:

  • Comment 310, posted at 04.03.12 20:37:32 by JJR Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 309) : Exactly why 8 is his best position, he’s very mobile and at 8 there is more chance he will be running at backs rather than running into other big looseforwards :smile: With Alberts back it will allow Coetzee to show his huge array of skills, Coetzee is actually great at offloading, and scoring tries, he just hasn’t been able to quite show us that part of his game, yet, due to Alberts and Deysel being out of action so often.

    And obviously Kankowski’s “name” has kept Coetzee outta the 8 jersey ,hopefully in the Reds game we will see Coetzee wear the 8 jersey.

  • Comment 311, posted at 04.03.12 20:41:38 by JJR Reply
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  • @LUDZ; Remember Du toit is young, when Bresler and Marais were making big strides in CC, Du toit was 18 or 19 years old.

    Class youngsters overtake the rest…Goosen overtake established Ebersohn, Lambie did it, Frans Steyn did it, Etzebeth is doing it, etc. Quality always trumps experience…Look at what happened to the very very experienced Boks the last 2 years, and look what a youthful and talented Welsh team did in the world cup…experience isn’t the do all and end all.

  • Comment 312, posted at 04.03.12 20:49:10 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 311) : Couldn’t agree more with you about Marcell.

  • Comment 313, posted at 04.03.12 21:54:42 by Ben Reply

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  • Well now what can one say :evil:

    We better start picking up fast if we want to win this SR 2012. :cry:

  • Comment 314, posted at 05.03.12 07:54:33 by chaz Reply

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  • @Ludz (Comment 228) :

    Do you always write off our players after just two rounds of games??

    What has JP du Plessis ever achieved on a rugby field besides a very good outings for his age group teams??

    Has he even played Currie Cup rugby?? If not why on earth would you want to play him ahead of one of the best centres in the country?? :roll: :???:

  • Comment 315, posted at 05.03.12 09:54:02 by wpw Reply
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  • wpw,Jean de Villiers is finished,but I must be honest,there aren’t any promising youngster at 12 anyway.Juan is a decent ouside centre,but not for the Boks. Gary van Aswegen is absolute rubbish

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