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Sharks get all five


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Lions, Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 10 Mar 2012 at 18:55
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The Sharks have beaten the Lions at Kings Park by 32 points to 20, bagging a try bonus point in the process.

In a scrappy game punctuated all-too-frequently by the whistle of referee Mark Lawrence, the Sharks did little to put the so-called “depleted” Lions to the sword and left it until the very last play of the game – a driving maul which saw Jacques Botes score his 25th Super Rugby try – to secure both the result and the bonus point. After 78 minutes of bother and bluster, that saw constructive play tempered by sloppiness and indiscipline, the home signed finished in the best possible style, with a truly textbook play off an attacking lineout reminiscent of this team at their very best in days of yore.

Prior to that score, the Lions, who never gave up and defended like trojans all afternoon, despite their heavy underdog status, had managed to claw themselves right back into contention by virtue of a try by prop Ruan Dreyer, on Super Rugby debut. Along with an earlier score to Jaco Taute and some decent kicking from Butch James, it was the visitors who had, by that stage, had the better of the second half after coming short to the tune of 14-6 in the opening 40.

That first period was frustrating for both sides, but particularly for the Sharks as they battled to turn dominance into points. They took a fairly comfortable lead thanks to tries by Riaan Viljoen and Lwazi Mvovo, both scored after mistakes by the Lions, but could easily have had more had the side managed to avoid giving away silly penalties, particularly on attack. There was more of the same in the second, with a wonderful counter-attack by JP Pietersen, which went quickly through Tim Whitehead’s hands to send Meyer Bosman in under the sticks, the only really good piece of play in an error strewn 40 minutes.

While the team will be happy with the win – and ecstatic about the bonus point – they will know that a similar level of indiscipline against a better side will result in a proper hammering.

Bismarck du Plessis, despite giving away a penalty or two, was again a stand out player, with his immense strength at the breakdown often proving decisive in halting the Lions’ progress. Amongst the backs, JP Pietersen again shone in his new position at outside centre and is starting to look like one of the best in the entire competition in that channel.

Many positives, in short, for the Sharks, not least of which the first win of the campaign, moving them up to 8th position in the overall standings – and 3rd on the South African conference log.

Scorers:

Sharks 32: Tries Riaan Viljoen, Lwazi Mvovo, Meyer Bosman, Jacques Botes. Conversions Pat Lambie 3. Penalties Lambie 2.

Lions 20: Tries Jaco Taute, Ruan Dreyer. Conversions Butch James 2. Penalties James 2.



104 Comments

  • Would have been the shock of the season if we couldn´t get 5 against these Lions at home. Stil took us to the wire to achieve it.

  • Comment 1, posted at 10.03.12 19:05:25 by rhineshark Reply
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  • Wasn’t able to watch the game how was it how were Bissie ,Lambie and Willem – gutsy decision by Keegan well done

  • Comment 2, posted at 10.03.12 19:07:31 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
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  • Who was MOTM? Super Sport decided to show the build down of the bulls game rather than the interviews.

  • Comment 3, posted at 10.03.12 19:09:28 by SarelSeemonster@gmail.com Reply
     
  • @rhineshark (Comment 1) : following on twitter I was thinking the same but won’t judge until I have heard from those that have watched the game or till I get to watch it on pvr

  • Comment 4, posted at 10.03.12 19:11:10 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply
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  • Rob did you write this post before the game, up so quick :-)

  • Comment 5, posted at 10.03.12 19:13:08 by Franshark Reply
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  • @SarelSeemonster@gmail.com (Comment 3) : I dunno… I would’ve given it to Bissie or JP. Taute was also superb

  • Comment 6, posted at 10.03.12 19:14:30 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 5) : haha – I’m on the ball china

  • Comment 7, posted at 10.03.12 19:14:49 by robdylan Reply
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  • The Sharks do need to improve, no offense but against a Lions side missing 8 players including their front row and flyhalf, the Sharks should have won by 30+

  • Comment 8, posted at 10.03.12 19:28:46 by Mutley Reply

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  • First of all, congratulations to you guys, we did not deserve to win. I am however very proud of the guys, we have shown that we have depth in our side, even though we lost. Was very impressed with our props and the fighting spirit of all the guys.

    A few different decisions by the senior guys like Butch cost us dearly. I also think Bondisio needs a rest. Much needed break coming up, lets just hope the injured guys can recover and we cane bounce back against the Stormers.

    Enjoy the win you guys, hope you can build on this.

  • Comment 9, posted at 10.03.12 19:31:28 by Groot Leeu Reply

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  • Yes Bondisio and Strauss wasn’t playing at there best, JP Petersen was the best player on the field, really taking to the outside centre position. Luckily the Lions have a by next week, but Sharks were the better team but still needs improving

  • Comment 10, posted at 10.03.12 19:36:15 by Mutley Reply

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  • Well played Sharks and a well deserved 5 points …It excites me to see JPP doing so well at 13.

    As for the Lions ..i can’t really fault them we were just beaten by a better side but I was well proud of the way the new guys played and I reckon tiaan meyer will be taking bandesio place and Maruis Coetzer was a stand out.

    Its a shame we lost out on that losing bonus point :sad:

  • Comment 11, posted at 10.03.12 19:39:45 by csb Reply

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  • @Groot Leeu (Comment 9) : Don’t be surprised to see some calls from some SW regulars to buy your props from tonight. :wink:

    They were impressive and these guys have made my garden tap an offer already, as well as this young lad from Paarl Gim who kicked the ball 62m.

  • Comment 12, posted at 10.03.12 19:42:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : Just before you all jump on me, I know that is not a full size field.

  • Comment 13, posted at 10.03.12 19:43:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) :
    :lol: :twisted:

    @csb (Comment 11) : Lions stood up well, and the composure and defensive security that wasn’t there until last year was again visible. It speaks of confidence, discipline and good morale.

    I don’t give too much credence to this issue of injuries – both sides have suffered with that, and the Sharks have lost Boks. At the end of the day, it just came down to a few small things.

  • Comment 14, posted at 10.03.12 19:51:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @csb (Comment 11) : I agree, Maruis Coetzer was a real stand out tonight, as well as Tiaan Meyer, the boys will be hungry for a win now, come the next game, i believe we will have a different side.

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 12) : :lol: well I’m glad you appreciate quality when you see it. What lad from Paarl Gim are you talking about?

  • Comment 15, posted at 10.03.12 19:51:52 by Groot Leeu Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 13) : Sorry, watched the video, impressive kick by the kid.

  • Comment 16, posted at 10.03.12 19:53:43 by Groot Leeu Reply

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  • What a game! We still aren’t at our best, but we did very well on the night. Lambie is back to his 2010CC form, the reason we won that one! JPP is looking more like a center and less like a wing each week! May even see him jump de Jongh for the Bok 13 jersey in June! Bismarck gave away penalties again, but this time it was forgivable, a good fetcher will give away a few, and he stole quite a bit of the Lions ball, his LO still needs a bit of work, but a major improvement so far! There is a reason he is being hailed as the best hooker in the world! Timmy was very good again, Mvovo and Ndungane were the opitomy of what a wing should be, not a lot of flash, but fast, reliable and good pressure! Viljoen, money well spent!

  • Comment 17, posted at 10.03.12 20:10:34 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 14) :

    Agreed each team has its injuries …for me tonight I can actually see that we have ‘potential’ depth and both us and the Sharks have key players returning ..its a long season and imo there are positives for all after this game ..the improvement of Lambie ..JPP at 13 and even Bosman finall doing what u guys bought him for.

    For me I still feel that this Lions side will go on to do better than expected.

  • Comment 18, posted at 10.03.12 20:13:51 by csb Reply

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  • We won and I’m happy. Strangely I actually think our backline was less impressive tonight than it was in the 1st 2 weeks.

  • Comment 19, posted at 10.03.12 20:14:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @csb (Comment 18) :
    I’m not gonna hype anyone prematurely, as is sometimes the won’t here, but that Oostehuizen was very impressive.

    Lions were in the game right till the end – even without your best player (Jantjies). Long competition still ahead…

  • Comment 20, posted at 10.03.12 20:19:37 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Well played Sharks . You where the better side taking all you chances . Thumbs up !

  • Comment 21, posted at 10.03.12 20:21:02 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Our broken field game was superb tonight ,we had frequent turnovers and threats on attack that almost resulted in scoring opportunities .We also seemed to control play well ,Lambie gave the Lions back 3 a hard time tonight ,his tactical kicking game is right up there with M.Steyn and he had a large part to play in this victory .
    So far this season our midfield has been a true success story Jpp ,Bosman ,Whitehead and Lambie have all combined well .
    Our loose forwards were outstanding tonight ,that is my preferred combination .

  • Comment 22, posted at 10.03.12 20:25:32 by Talent Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : That young Coetzee kid was good tonight,along with that frontrow.

  • Comment 23, posted at 10.03.12 20:27:00 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 22) :

    I thought Lambie’s tactical kicking was superb and certainly put pressure on us.

  • Comment 24, posted at 10.03.12 20:33:17 by csb Reply

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  • I’m going to get stick for this but I can’t help but feel we got a bit lucky tonight. Viljoens try could easily have gone against us (and probably should have) as well as Bosmans try (slight interferance on Doppies) but the decisions went in our favour tonight. Good win and hopefully it kick starts our season.

  • Comment 25, posted at 10.03.12 20:50:46 by Zebra Reply

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  • @Zebra (Comment 25) : what was wrong with Riaan’s try? You think he might have knocked the ball?

  • Comment 26, posted at 10.03.12 21:01:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 19) : it was scrappy, but that’s the way the lions play :-)

  • Comment 27, posted at 10.03.12 21:26:05 by Franshark Reply
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  • The Sharks, the only winning SA team of the weekend

  • Comment 28, posted at 10.03.12 21:27:04 by Franshark Reply
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  • @ Rob – yeah I think it came off his arm.

  • Comment 29, posted at 10.03.12 21:34:05 by Zebra Reply

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  • @Zebra (Comment 29) : when he claimed the high ball, or in trying to regather the kick through?

  • Comment 30, posted at 10.03.12 21:39:00 by robdylan Reply
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  • Congrats Sharks. Well played and well deserved.

    Yeah you can ask question about Viljoen’s try but so can we ask about Ruan Dreyer’s try, maybe knocked the ball first?

    JPP was immense at 13. Bismarck was brilliant.

    Congrats!

  • Comment 31, posted at 10.03.12 21:54:42 by WilladieLeeu Reply

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  • Dunno if its just me but I have be impressed with whitehaed. Always looks dangerous and always looking to put other players away

  • Comment 32, posted at 10.03.12 22:28:06 by sharkbok Reply

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  • Congrats boys! Didn’t see the game – was at a wedding. How did our front row, locks and loosies do? And secondly, any injuries during the game?

    JPP, MB and TW’s good reports is very welcome news! How the midfield tables have turned!

  • Comment 33, posted at 10.03.12 22:35:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @WilladieLeeu (Comment 31) : thanks boet. Your boys played bloody well and will win plenty more games

  • Comment 34, posted at 10.03.12 22:49:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • I feel we over critising our team a bit too much..sure there Is room for improvement..but we got our first win with a bonus point..how many times have we lost due to decisions going against us..I felt bizzy was a little hard done by with some of his calls..but I guess each ref has his own interpretations..one thing though..paul jordaan and craig burden need more game time..u can’t have a player playing 80 min in n out without his deputy not seeing anything..but good win..back on track..

  • Comment 35, posted at 10.03.12 23:37:37 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 6) : Rugby365 gave it to Tim Whitehead.

  • Comment 36, posted at 11.03.12 07:23:55 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 8) : I’m also left with more questions than answers. Don’t think we played well. Marcell has now set the benchmark and we need to ensure that we utalize him well and play him in a position he is used to so that he can continue delivering the goods (I know it was his 1st game at 6 and with time could be a great 6, I’m thinking short-term and want results today). We might need to move Keegan back to 6, play Coetzee at 7 and Alberts 8, or Alberts 7 and Coetzee 8.

  • Comment 37, posted at 11.03.12 07:39:00 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 30) : When he tried to re-claim the high ball.

  • Comment 38, posted at 11.03.12 07:47:55 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Fred played better than the previous 2 games, hence Lambie and the other backs looked better as well. I just want to point out something: There is no such thing as guaranteed points and no easy games. Do not underestimate any team or you will go down sooner or later, and every game must be approached as a must win, no exceptions.

  • Comment 39, posted at 11.03.12 08:05:07 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @JarsonX (Comment 39) : That said, Well done Sharks and keep it up :cool:

  • Comment 40, posted at 11.03.12 08:06:50 by JarsonX Reply
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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 36) :

    Those guys know their rugby :twisted:

  • Comment 41, posted at 11.03.12 09:01:10 by Morné Reply
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  • Delighted with the win, think we could keep more possession instead of kicking.

    We still need to improve though.

  • Comment 42, posted at 11.03.12 09:22:44 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 42) : that aspect, to me, was a little worrying. It’s like we couldn’t find a way through at all with ball in hand and the kicks were about the only thing that got us moving forward.

    I’m going to say that it’s because of the Lions brilliant defence, though.

  • Comment 43, posted at 11.03.12 09:33:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 43) :
    I see it slightly differently. Yes, we were easy to defend against when using the forwards, cos we sent them in singly, instead of as driving pods, which allowed them to be gang-tackled to a dead stop quite often. That made other means of penetration necessary.

    However, if your opposition back 3 are leaving themselves vulnerable at the back, and your line-out is being very competitive, the quickest way to play your rugby in the right part of the field is to kick the ball well into space. Pat’s tactical kicking was excellent.

  • Comment 44, posted at 11.03.12 09:46:00 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : I have to agree with you about Oostuizen! Wow!! For a guy they were supposedly worried to drop in the deep end he was impressive!!

    Bissie must be a Sharksworld reader because he went out there and delivered on all of the areas in which we though he was weak last week :mrgreen: Lambie was back to making his trademark half-gaps and Marcell Coetzee was once again immense on defence and attack!
    The competition for places when Jean Deysel is fit again will be interesting.

  • Comment 45, posted at 11.03.12 11:01:50 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Silver Fox (Comment 42) : @robdylan (Comment 43) : I was also worried about the amount of kicking but there’s a difference between aimless kicking and kicking that can be contested.

    I liked the fact that we mixed it up a bit. We used our big ball-carriers, our fast backline (Paul Whitehead was brilliant with his twisting through tackles!!) and the aerial route occasionally rather than just one option the whole game.

  • Comment 46, posted at 11.03.12 11:04:22 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 44) : Sending forwards in singly and letting them get gang-tackled has been our “game plan” for ages now. With defending forwards simply having to shift over in pods, defending backs can do the same and drift with our backline when they get the ball.

    We have become the easiest side to defend against in the competition, so we have come to rely on gaining decent field position by kicking. Only problem is, when our kicking game is off, we get hammered.

    Where is the ball-in-hand game of 2010, which led to a long winning streak in the S14 and won us the CC?

  • Comment 47, posted at 11.03.12 11:09:14 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @ChrisS (Comment 46) :
    Paul is good, but his boet Tim is even better! :wink:

  • Comment 48, posted at 11.03.12 11:09:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 48) : Hahaha!! Was thinking something and writing something else :mrgreen: Was wondering when Paul Jordaan is going to get a run while I was typing about TIM Whitehead :oops:

  • Comment 49, posted at 11.03.12 11:12:00 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 48) : Where did Caylib Oosthuizen come from? How old is he?

  • Comment 50, posted at 11.03.12 11:13:26 by ChrisS Reply
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  • Sharks were very disjointed yesterday, forwards need to work as a unit a lot more, eg. we can’t always have just one guy arriving at the breakdown. Happy with our backline; forwards just need to work collectively. And glad we figured it out that we need Coetzee and Alberts running from the centre position and not running asround the fringes.

    Bresler was great oof the bench, and Jordaan has only got the ball once/twice(Both in Bulls game) in about 45 minutes of rugby for him this Superugby season.

    Wouls also like to see Janro Van Niekerk get some time off the bench next week, in place of Chadwick…Chadders has played a lot. And i would like to see what Janro can do for us in the tight loose, Chadwick is a great scrummager; but the rest of his game needs some serious work, IMO.

    My Team for next week-

    1.Chadwick
    2.Bissie (C)
    3.Jannie
    4.Sykes
    5.Bresler
    6.Botes
    7.Alberts
    8.Coetzee
    9.Mcloed
    10.Lambie
    11.Mvovo
    12.Whitehead
    13.JPP
    14.Jordaan
    15.Viljoen

    16.Burden
    17.Herbst
    18.Van Niekerk
    19.Du Toit
    20.Daniel
    21.Fred Michalak
    22.Bosman

    Go get us another 5 points Sharks!!

  • Comment 51, posted at 11.03.12 11:19:58 by JJR Reply
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  • @ChrisS (Comment 50) :
    Haven’t seen him before, but a very good first hit out.

    @rhineshark (Comment 47) :
    I would certainly not say that we are the easiest to defend against – we have scored 6 tries and only conceded 2 in 3 games.

  • Comment 52, posted at 11.03.12 11:28:15 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) : I have seen at least 6 games were Caylib has played, and to be honest i thought he was useless, got scrummed all the time…so i was very surprised to see how very well he did yesterday…he was like a totally different prop yesterday.

  • Comment 53, posted at 11.03.12 11:39:44 by JJR Reply
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  • @JJR (Comment 51) : And you want to drop Daniel for what reason?

  • Comment 54, posted at 11.03.12 12:14:25 by Ben Reply

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  • Another player that hasn’t really been mentioned yet is Odwa. Though he had a very good game yesterday.

  • Comment 55, posted at 11.03.12 12:17:33 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : Sorry meant to say thought he had a good game yesterday.

  • Comment 56, posted at 11.03.12 12:19:41 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 54) : Because i feel he needs a rest and I think he will be good off the bench…and with him off at least we give away less penalties :smile: Bissie also needs to sit on the bench soon, maybe in our 2nd tour match to get a bit of a break, and so that Burden can get some gametime also.

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  • I loved to watch jpp and marcell on defence.the rush defence of jpp was timed to perfection. And marcell’s commitment on defence was supperb especially that tackle en kamana at the end. Well done boys.now let’s build on that

  • Comment 58, posted at 11.03.12 12:28:21 by juba_fan Reply

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  • :twisted: My first beef is with the fact the Mark Lawrence is consistently being called to ref the Lions vs Sharks game??!! This has now been for the last 2-3 years. If the Sharks lost, (cowboys don’t cry) I might suffer from sour grapes, but as we won this convincingly, I can question this.

    Lawrence seems to be more of a mentor to the Lions than a ref. He advises and counsels on their play. And for a guy who is so pedantic at the way he directs the breakdowns, he seems to allow for leighweigh to others but is quick to punish the Sharks and he obviously has a grouse with the Du Plessis bros.

    But let’s look at the game. He does not allow us to bind from the side at the breakdown. He penalised Bisi and Daniel last week but 45 seconds into the lions game Nr 3 and 6 join the ruck from the side, then (after a Lions pass which hit the deck and rolled forward) Bisi is penalised for a knee on the ground trying to wrestle the ball from the hands of their tackled Doppies, who clings to it so hard, pulling Bisi down. But I can maybe still see Lawrence point here.

    Butch slots the penalty and from the restart Hollenbach runs into our defence. Sykes puts his hands on the ball, Straus and Franco piles in going of their feet while Minnie joins from the side but Lawrence goes crazy shouting: “Right of your feet Sharks, leave it!” Minnie then plucks the ball out from the side of the ruck before the ref hands them the penalty. They kick out, the Lions throw this ball so skew that Daniel jumps about 2m to the side to try and compete! In fact he runs another 5 after landing!! Lawrence was right behind the line.
    There were 3 skew Lion throws allowed in the first half and 2 x in the second. Even when the Lions knocked in the lineout he calls it backwards?? (Poor Butch was wrongly called back in the second half by the assistant for forward pass which was a good pass)

    When Bisi drived the ball forward and went to ground Herbst cleaned Minnie out without falling over the ball, but then he gets pedantic. (19th minute) They kick out, we collect and attack and Straus grabs JPP around the neck, okay with the ref but well spotted by the assistant. (Our dear SS commentators going “Incorrect call”) Lambie scores 3.

    They kick off, we kick out. The get the ball and ALL the forwards dive onto this ball on the ground, sealing it off!!! (There was a line-out of the Sharks where he allowed it in our favour as well) They get up, play the ball, Hollenbach is tackled, Doppies goes off his feet, seals it off. The lions were blown for going of their feet only in the 27th minute!

    We were penalised 1 more time for cleaning our side at the ruck (on attack) in the second half while Lawrence allowed the opposition to do the same. (i.e. 54th min)
    We scor, they kick off and a lions forward boots it over the Sharks’ dead ball line – Lawrence’s call? 22 drop in??

    I can carry on questioning his calls from their second penalty, where Lions no 14 seals off after the tackle on James, Doppies allowed to play the ball on the ground and penalising the Sharks to when he crowd boiled over after another good steal by Bisi was ruled in the favour of the Lions and Lawrence received their jeers.

    In his defence I must say that Hebst has to come to grips with the law and dives into the ruck. This was a good call (first penalty in second half)
    But, in my opinion, overall in the past years, Lawrence has not been the right guy to objectively adjudicate a Lions vs Sharks game nor any Sharks game for that matter until he can get over his Du Plessis gripe. :twisted:

  • Comment 59, posted at 11.03.12 12:55:55 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 58) : I loved the Whitehead/JPP combo…it worked well…would be nice for us to play a non-South African team next week…everyone defends well in these local derbies.

    Reds’ centers are pretty average to say the least at the moment, Whitehead/JPP could have a field day if the forwards set a good platform. Keen!! I think next week will be the game the team finally clicks and performs closer to their potential.

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  • @Zebra (Comment 29) : :o Ball came off Taute’s hand, hit Viljoen on the back of his shoulder and rolled away. Watched it at 1/16th of a second. Try! :twisted:

  • Comment 61, posted at 11.03.12 12:58:20 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 59) : I watched Lawrence closely the last 2 weeks…he blows us very fast and tended to be a lot more leniant on the lions…eg. rolling away, he would give us like a couple of seconds…if Lions were not rolling he would tell them to roll like 2/3 times, and by then the ball was out…so the Lions/Stormers didn’t get penalised.

    Will be great to have Joubert or Jonker as our Ref next week.

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  • @JJR (Comment 62) : I prefer Joubert. I do not gripe about a ref making a mistake or 2 in a game, but if a professional person makes 3-5 critical errors at his job every day he will get fired. The same must apply to refs. The are now the most crucial person in the game’s outcome and there are too many grey areas. Jonker is so bad at fast games and can not see a forward pass and I think he is intimidating for his assistants, because they shut up.

  • Comment 63, posted at 11.03.12 13:08:12 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • Whitehead looks a good prospect and I am really looking forward to him and JP in the center against the Reds

  • Comment 64, posted at 11.03.12 13:30:28 by dawj Reply

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  • We were largely directionless yesterday. There was no penetration on attack, no creativity, which is when we would resort to the boot. This is worrying.

    We are quite predictable when Coetzee and/or Bismark and/or Alberts crashes the ball up. They never pass, go to ground, and opposing teams can defend quite easily against this (quite often turn the ball over too).

    However, watching the Blues play against the Bulls last night, they had players running off shoulders for the pop, they would run angles and create/take gaps, always being unpredictable.

  • Comment 65, posted at 11.03.12 13:41:44 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 65) : Yes, we were very far from perfect yesterday; but we still got the result, and towards the end of the game coetzee was running from the centre position which meant he was running into backs and not forwards which was obviously what we should’ve done from the start.

    Wingers and Riaan need to run of Lambie more often. We also can’t deny the Lions were very good on defence in that first 40 minutes.

  • Comment 66, posted at 11.03.12 14:11:51 by JJR Reply
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  • Anyone hear bout the incident at loftus..very bad picture painted..its just a game guys…

  • Comment 67, posted at 11.03.12 14:19:42 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 66) : Look, it’s not all doom and gloom. We have some new faces – Whitehead has been good, Coetzee excellent, JP very good at 13, and Viljoen seems to be growing into the role at the back.

    But simply having new faces is not enough. I have seen nothing different from the last 3 poor seasons to suggest our coaching staff has deployed new ideas. If it didn’t work then, why will the same work this season?

    Early days yet though. Hopefully that little feeling of doubt I have in the pit of my stomach is misplaced.

    All will be revealed.

  • Comment 68, posted at 11.03.12 14:29:48 by siorc Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 67) : What incedent would that be?

  • Comment 69, posted at 11.03.12 14:40:32 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • Final hooter went n some fan evaded security and threw a bottle at kevin mealamu

  • Comment 70, posted at 11.03.12 14:58:26 by shaniboi Reply

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  • A plastic bottle.

    Very dof though.

  • Comment 71, posted at 11.03.12 15:05:11 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 68) : Yes i noticed some bad habits of the last 3 seasons come up in this game; but in the Bulls and Stormers game i could see some different things…I think with the Win under the belt we will be able to relax and focus on playing how we would like to play, and a style that we think will finally help The Sharks reach their full potential.

  • Comment 72, posted at 11.03.12 15:07:42 by JJR Reply
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  • M.Coetzee has great stats for this Lions game…Chadwick and Herbst need to up their workrate alot more, even for props it was pretty bad.

  • Comment 73, posted at 11.03.12 15:23:04 by JJR Reply
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  • How long before Burden is snapped up by a team that is prepared to give him game time and we then notice how good he really is once he is playing for the other team??????????????

  • Comment 74, posted at 11.03.12 16:55:55 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : Burden will have to play soon. We cannot expect Bismark to play 80 minutes every game.

    The only problem is that Bismark is the Sharks’ main (if not only) breakdown turnover thief.

  • Comment 75, posted at 11.03.12 17:26:53 by siorc Reply

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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 59) : Mark Lawrence (I’m sure he is from the same gene pool as the other cheating Lawrence), has always worn his anti sharks undies over his shorts rather proudly! Never liked this selectively sightless optometrist and never will :evil:

  • Comment 76, posted at 11.03.12 17:33:30 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 76) : :lol:

  • Comment 77, posted at 11.03.12 18:27:53 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 77) : and the cheek of it 1. Mitchell has put Meuwesen on report and some lion fan on rugby365 is complaining that the lions were treated unfairly! :evil:

  • Comment 78, posted at 11.03.12 18:55:10 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 76) :

    Come one man! Mark Lawrence is by far the most consistent, most reliable and most trustworthy referee we have in the SH. He communicates with players, knows the rules and has never been a biased ref. It’s a shame he retired from international duty because he is an example for others. Yes, he does make mistakes, but who doesn’t? When he is not sure, he asks his assistants or the TMO and I never thought of his as being anti-Natal

  • Comment 79, posted at 11.03.12 19:27:14 by TRF_Ezequiel Reply

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  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 79) : sorry but I disagree with you, watch any match he refs us and you will see! Especially when reffing Sharks vs WP/Stormers, just for instance just last week he gave the Stormers no less than three warnings no one got sent off, we were not warned once and Skeate gets sent off. In last years match vs Stormers in CT he allowed Vermeulen to get away with cheap shots and off the ball shots with impunity didn’t give our players the same lee way, I could go on and on but I won’t but I wouldn’t care if neither of the Lawrences never ref a Sharks match again

  • Comment 80, posted at 11.03.12 20:27:29 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 78) :

    Mitchell has put Meuwesen on report

    3 questions:

    1) where did you hear that?
    2) How can he do that?
    3) What decision(s) does he disagree with?

  • Comment 81, posted at 11.03.12 20:30:05 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) : answer to question no. 1 is Sport24.

  • Comment 82, posted at 11.03.12 20:42:27 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 82) : he’s being a muppet. The officials were far harder on the Lions than on us and if any decision was dodgy, it was the awarding of Dreyer’s try, not Mvovo’s

  • Comment 83, posted at 11.03.12 21:00:43 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 83) : The officials were far harder on the Lions than on us :wink:

    I think that is his main gripe. :)

  • Comment 84, posted at 11.03.12 21:15:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 52) : I´m not only referring to this year.

  • Comment 85, posted at 11.03.12 21:36:40 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 84) : ag jinne… I meant the opposite :)

  • Comment 86, posted at 11.03.12 21:39:34 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : I figured as much :)

  • Comment 87, posted at 11.03.12 21:41:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 86) : Have a cup of coffee. :razz: :lol: :lol:

  • Comment 88, posted at 11.03.12 21:41:40 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 81) : Rob news24 and rugby365, he will not specify what his gripe is but sais that although they will not change the result, officials at this level should be held accountable, and that is why he reported Mewveson :evil: .

  • Comment 89, posted at 11.03.12 21:44:59 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 84) :
    @robdylan (Comment 86) : :lol:

  • Comment 90, posted at 11.03.12 21:48:19 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 89) : what a chop

  • Comment 91, posted at 11.03.12 22:07:51 by robdylan Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 65) : The guys seem badly coached. There’s no technique when it comes to the breakdown, if a player isn’t trying to steal the ball when the situation doesn’t allow he is diving into the ruck. Love the way the Highlanders approach a ruck.

  • Comment 92, posted at 11.03.12 23:05:45 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 61) : I must not understand the knock on law then. i understood it as that if the ball touches any part of the body (excluding the foot) and goes forward then it is a knock on. all of this does obviously not apply to charge downs. if i’m wrong then please correct me.

    I agree with Rob and Siorc, the officials were harder on the Lions than on us. it does make a welcome change though.

  • Comment 93, posted at 11.03.12 23:09:26 by Zebra Reply

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  • Mitchel is refering the touch judges for calls like butches forward pass

  • Comment 94, posted at 11.03.12 23:37:14 by juba_fan Reply

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  • Can’t remember who asked but Bismarck was named man of the match and received a (and I quote) “Galaxy Samsung” for his efforts.

    Having finally watched the game – JPP should have been a smartphone richer. Bismarck didn’t do much wrong in this game but JPP was ezceptional in attack, defence and discipline.

  • Comment 95, posted at 12.03.12 00:14:11 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 74) : @siorc (Comment 75) :

    What are Burden’s stats when it comes to winning turnovers and is he any good as a fetcher??

    Burden started off his junior rugby as a flank before playing centre and wing for the senior side. He has the build, strength and pace to play fetcher I think. I’d love to see the Sharks take a chance and use him on the flank.

    He definitely needs game time or he’ll leave the Sharks. Not 1 minute in 3 games would frustrate anyone!!!! :???:

  • Comment 96, posted at 12.03.12 08:24:06 by ChrisS Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 95) : Couldn’t agree more regarding JPP; he certainly has taken to outside centre like a middle-aged housewife to a tweeny vampire movie!

  • Comment 97, posted at 12.03.12 08:32:54 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 97) : :lol:

  • Comment 98, posted at 12.03.12 09:23:25 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 97) : Give this man a Bells! :grin:

  • Comment 99, posted at 12.03.12 09:39:19 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Zebra (Comment 93) : :arrow: I have copied the rule for you as stated by IRB: “A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it. ‘Forward’ means towards the opposing team’s dead ball line.”

    “EXCEPTION: Charge down. If a player charges down the ball as an opponent kicks it, or immediately after the kick, it is not a knock-on even though the ball may travel forward.” :twisted:

  • Comment 100, posted at 12.03.12 09:44:06 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @TRF_Ezequiel (Comment 79) : :twisted: Lawrence is not a cheat in my view, but I am sure he has a soft spot for the Lions and he has no love lost for the Du Plessis bros. If both sides are not happy with his judgements then it sends up a red flag. He gets very impatient with our players and I question his understanding of the ruck. My question is: Why is he always the chosen ref to adjudicate the Lions vs Sharks games??

  • Comment 101, posted at 12.03.12 09:51:50 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 100) : so they way I understand that rule – if you are not in possession of the ball yet (you are receiving a pass or collecting a kick) and the balls comes off any part of you body other than your hands or arms it isn’t a knock on. If that is the case then I’m pretty sure 99% of refs around the world at any level are blowing it wrong. Cause the way its blown now is if the ball touches any part of the body (other than the foot) its deemed a knock on. I’m sufficiantly confused, thanks.

  • Comment 102, posted at 12.03.12 11:01:38 by Zebra Reply

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  • @Zebra (Comment 102) : If the ball is passed or kicked to you and it hits you in the head,neck, torso, shoulders, back, pelvis or legs it is not a knock-on. If it is kicked and you block it with any part of your body it is not a knock-on. The refs have called it at times when it was not clear. Bad call: Bulls – crusaders (I think 2010 at Loftus) Bulls threw forward, hit Crusaders and fell into bull’s hands behind Sader and bulls scored to win the game. :twisted:

  • Comment 103, posted at 12.03.12 11:13:36 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 103) : Let me guess : Marius Jonker or Craig Joubert?

  • Comment 104, posted at 12.03.12 17:05:01 by Original Pierre Reply
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