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Sharks v Blues: by the numbers


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 17 Apr 2012 at 10:57
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Let’s look back at the match statistics from the Sharks’ victory over the Blues last week, courtesy of the number made available by Verusco.

That the Sharks pulled off a 4-try-to-2 victory was somewhat surprising, given that they didn’t really stand out in any of the areas that mattered. The Blues had more ball (42 minutes in possession against 38) and had to make far fewer tackles (128 against 177). They made more ground with ball in hand and conceded around half as many penalties (6 v 13). They also only lost a single line out, as opposed to the Sharks who lost 3 line outs and 2 scrums. In fact, handling errors (18 v 29) and tackle completion (88% v 85%) were the only numbers working in the Sharks’ favour.

Looking at defence, Keegan Daniel was the star, with 14 hits from 15 attempts. Next best were 4 players who each managed 12 stops – Anton Bresler and Marcell Coetzee each managed 12 from 13, while JP Pietersen and Tim Whitehead each managed 12 from 14 attempts. Best overall tackler was Dale Chadwick, who made 11 hits with no misses, while Louis Ludik’s 100% record off 9 attempts is also worthy of a mention. The worst tackler, percentage wise, was (shock! horror!) Pat Lambie, with 60% success from 10 tackles. He missed 4 in total, the same number as Jannie du Plessis (9 from 13, or 69%).

Daniel was again the go-to man when it came to metres gained, with a massive 155. Mr Burden’s intercept sprint added nicely to his total, seeing him come in second with 85 metres. Lambie was third on 72. Timmy Whitehead was again the main line breaker, with 2 to his credit, ahead of 1 each from Daniel and Lambie. Burden boasted the most offloads (2) with Daniel and Lambie again featuring too (1 each). Daniel made the most passes outside of the halfbacks (9) with Sykes coming in second (5).

Dale Chadwick was the workhorse at ruck time (22 hits), just ahead of du Plessis (20) and Sykes (19). Pietersen was the best rucker amongst the backs, hitting 13 breakdowns.

Craig Burden lost possession twice (line out throws going astray) with a whole host of others giving away possession once. Daniel and Sykes each gave away 3 penalties, with a number of other players conceding 1. The dubious honour of highest total error count is thus split an impressive 4 ways this week, with Daniel, Sykes, Lambie and du Plessis each making 5 errors.

Keegan is, of course, our MVP this week, though. Nobody else comes close to the captain, so good work on an outstanding individual performance.



132 Comments

  • Chadwick is actually quietly putting in a lot of work. Would be nice to have both him and Beast available soon.

    Daniel probably had his best match in a long time – he was simply everywhere. I don’t know how Kanko is going to get back into the lineup – unless Daniel gets injured

  • Comment 1, posted at 17.04.12 11:03:28 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • “Dale Chadwick was the workhorse at ruck time (22 hits), just ahead of du Plessis (20)”. This is certainly an improvement! :cool:

  • Comment 2, posted at 17.04.12 11:05:48 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 1) : you cannot fault that kid on work rate…

  • Comment 3, posted at 17.04.12 11:09:47 by robdylan Reply
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  • So Jannie makes the plonker list for the second week in a row.
    Good to see Chadwick so busy at ruck time

  • Comment 4, posted at 17.04.12 11:14:16 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 1) : “I don’t know how Kanko is going to get back into the lineup” – Willem Alberts (and Deysel) are looking a bit rusty, so if Kanko can make a big impact against the EP Kings, he could leapfrog Alberts…

  • Comment 5, posted at 17.04.12 11:17:51 by CapeShark Reply
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  • I tend to agree, Keagan is playing a near perfect no8 game. Its awesome to see him fly all over the place.

  • Comment 6, posted at 17.04.12 11:21:34 by Uli Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 5) : But then Keegan would have to play on the side of the scrum, so Kanko can play 8. And Keegan seems to be relishing his role at the back of the scrum.

  • Comment 7, posted at 17.04.12 11:23:29 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Great to see Chadwick stepping up! We need players at those rucks, and he obviously read the memo carefully. Sykes also has been putting in the hard yards.

    Daniel was superb, but I would also like to give credit to our centres – Tim breaking the line and both making 24 tackles against the likes of Nonu really is a change from the centres of the last few years.

  • Comment 8, posted at 17.04.12 11:27:26 by Big Fish Reply
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  • everyone here and elsewhere have been raving about craig burden looking good but i can’t see it, he has only been flash in the pan, yes 2 games 2 tries for a hooker is impressive but in the TEAM context he actually doesn’t do any DONKEYWORK! he should be on the wing for all we know.

    4 tackles, made 3 passes, hit 7 rucks on attack and 1 on defence in 72 minutes of play. is not good enough for a replacement of bissie who was averaging 12.3 tackles in 6 weeks of rugby.

  • Comment 9, posted at 17.04.12 11:27:56 by Megatron Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 7) : When Keegan does eventually need to be rested, I see Kanko at 8 and Keegan playing off the bench. We need to give Bissie a chance to captain anyway.

  • Comment 10, posted at 17.04.12 11:28:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 9) :
    Totally different player from Bismark. And the best hooker we have left, despite the lack of grunt work. I dont think anyone is writing him into the Bok team though?

  • Comment 11, posted at 17.04.12 11:35:55 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : i’m not talking about Bok teams or any of that stuff. just the meat & potatoes of the game, so who compensates for bissie’s absence while craig roams around looking to pounce and showoff his pace?

  • Comment 12, posted at 17.04.12 11:39:48 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 12) :
    Nobody. Which is why I think they need to include Deysel in Bismark’s absence. Even then, I think this is the area where the Chiefs are gonna expose us. Without particularly Beast and Bismark, we are vulnerable at the breakdowns.

  • Comment 13, posted at 17.04.12 11:45:03 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 13) : to be fair to what Megs is saying, though, Deysel also did F-all against the Blues. According to the stats.

  • Comment 14, posted at 17.04.12 11:49:09 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 14) :
    You did read: “Even then, I think this is the area where the Chiefs are gonna expose us.”? The thinking made sense, but the execution wasnt up to it.

    Tbh; I think we are in trouble this weekend.

  • Comment 15, posted at 17.04.12 12:00:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 13) : deysel is hardly the work-a-holic that bissie is and FAR from being accurate or effective.

  • Comment 16, posted at 17.04.12 12:03:40 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 15) : so do I

  • Comment 17, posted at 17.04.12 12:25:39 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 9) : I agree 100%. Burden needs to up his work rate and his set piece work before he can even try and challenge Bismark for the starting spot. At the moment he is playing like Schalk Britz in his WP days

  • Comment 18, posted at 17.04.12 12:38:53 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 2) : For how many of those did he stay on his feet? :razz:

  • Comment 19, posted at 17.04.12 13:06:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Chadwick also has an outstanding 100% record so far this season that most of you have missed.

    He has yet to take to the field with his socks not sitting around his ankles. :(

    Fix the small attitude and pride problems and the big ones will take care of themselves.

  • Comment 20, posted at 17.04.12 13:11:57 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : those socks drive my son insane! maybe Chadwick should havw gone to College :smile:

  • Comment 21, posted at 17.04.12 13:46:54 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 21) :
    He went to a great school – Westville Boys High. :evil:

  • Comment 22, posted at 17.04.12 13:55:17 by Big Fish Reply
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  • I really think you guys are overreacting about the socks

  • Comment 23, posted at 17.04.12 14:04:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : Would you be happy seeing Frans Steyn (choosing a name at random) take to the field for the Boks with his socks around his ankles?

  • Comment 24, posted at 17.04.12 14:10:19 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 22) : Great school but Maritzburg College is greater ;-)

    @robdylan (Comment 23) : Nope in my opinion it shows a slapgat attitude!

  • Comment 25, posted at 17.04.12 14:18:12 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) :
    Agree.

    @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 25) :
    Not in academics. :cool:

  • Comment 26, posted at 17.04.12 14:19:44 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 23) : It makes him look like a slob who has no pride in his uniform.

  • Comment 27, posted at 17.04.12 14:35:01 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 22) : :shock: You guys allow your 1st team players to wear their socks like that? :shock:

    :wink:

    I think he would have had a good talking to if he dressed like that for a match back then.

  • Comment 28, posted at 17.04.12 14:37:12 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 26) : :lol:

  • Comment 29, posted at 17.04.12 14:39:23 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : So you would never had Chris Latham in your team if you were coach of the Wallabies? :twisted:

  • Comment 30, posted at 17.04.12 14:50:40 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • JAYYYYYY for the first time I see support for my obsession with showing pride for your uniform!!! Thank you thank you!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 17.04.12 15:04:13 by Ice Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 25) : @KSA Shark © (Comment 20) : What’s next? Players being slapgat because they have long hair? Come on guys, this is pro rugby. Not the army. Get real.. :roll:

  • Comment 32, posted at 17.04.12 15:07:42 by Ben Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : I would have given him a huge roll of broekrek!!!

    Damnit man, you guys seen Francois Hougaard this weekend FIXING his sox, and they were not even down!

    DRESS the part and you might FEEL the part…

  • Comment 33, posted at 17.04.12 15:08:17 by Ice Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : that kind of sums it up for me

  • Comment 34, posted at 17.04.12 15:08:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : @Ice (Comment 31) : Same to you.

  • Comment 35, posted at 17.04.12 15:08:51 by Ben Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : Yes I would have but he would have been told in no uncertain terms to stop looking like a slob.

  • Comment 36, posted at 17.04.12 15:09:09 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : supporters also want to be proud of how the uniform they so admire are being worn with pride..

    I have the same obsession with schoolkids who wear there schooluniform, shirt hanging out, hair not tidy, socks down etc..I can dish out a few solid klaps if I see that.

  • Comment 37, posted at 17.04.12 15:12:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : Precisely. This is PRO rugby then dress like a PRO not like a homeless guy.

  • Comment 38, posted at 17.04.12 15:13:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : Long hair can still very easily look neat and tidy, socks around your ankles just look trashy and unkept.

  • Comment 39, posted at 17.04.12 15:15:59 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : exactly! Be professional.

  • Comment 40, posted at 17.04.12 15:17:12 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 38) : exactly! Be professional in the whole package.

  • Comment 41, posted at 17.04.12 15:17:32 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 33) : Exactly, maybe if some pride was felt, some might actually be displayed as well.

  • Comment 42, posted at 17.04.12 15:17:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : Very often things in life are decided by the small details. Now were we not complaining not so long ago and often about how Chadwick flops all over the rucks costing us penalties? how he wasn’t contributing in the loose etc. I see that tendency is clearly depicted by his socks! He couldn’t care = slapgat! I went to see my son’s first rugby practice at Maritzburg College the coach gave them this long talk how they had to look and what they had to wear to matches and warm up, he explained that they represented the other 1000 students and staff and therefore had to retain the image that these other students and past students worked hard to achieve. I believe in that completely! Same with the Sharks he is representing thousands of players before him and millions of fans, he needs to represent them with pride!

  • Comment 43, posted at 17.04.12 15:24:32 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 43) : LIKE

  • Comment 44, posted at 17.04.12 15:30:23 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Is anyone FB friends with him? Why not ask him politely on his wall to pull his socks up?

  • Comment 45, posted at 17.04.12 15:31:27 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 43) : Nicely said!

  • Comment 46, posted at 17.04.12 15:32:55 by Ice Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 43) : AMEN!!

  • Comment 47, posted at 17.04.12 15:34:56 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 45) : I was. Not any more.

    I know his dad reads the site. Not sure he’ll react well to this suggestion, mind you. Complained to Straeuli the last time somebody said something negative about Dale.

  • Comment 48, posted at 17.04.12 15:37:23 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : If his dad reacts poorly to us asking his son to show more pride in the uniform then he wouldn’t have been to happy with my comments about Chadwick needing to shed his puppyfat and getting his body in a shape more befitting of the title “Professional Rugby Player” :)

  • Comment 49, posted at 17.04.12 15:43:35 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 32) : Long hair, like tattoos, piercings, beards etc, are expressions of the individuals, so no, telling someone to cut their hair would be out of line.

    The Sharks uniform, however, is something that is issued to a player by the union, and is common to all members of the team, and is part and parcel of how the the union is portayed in public. I do not think it is unreasonable to expect players to conform to specific standards in this regards.

  • Comment 50, posted at 17.04.12 15:46:27 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Don’t you guys think the Sharks rugby union would have addressed this by now if it was such a big deal for him to play like that with his socks. To me its also a sign of individualism. If he feels more comfortable playing that way then let him be. I’m pretty sure a set of pulled up socks won’t mean he’ll play with more pride for his team.

  • Comment 51, posted at 17.04.12 15:51:38 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 41) : chris latham was professional and he never pulled up his socks, so what?

  • Comment 52, posted at 17.04.12 15:53:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 52) : James O’Connor plays with his socks down as well if I’m not mistaken. These people are over reacting.

  • Comment 53, posted at 17.04.12 15:56:03 by Ben Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 50) : pulling one’s socks up or not is like wearing one of those cycling short looking pants underneath one’s shorts! i’ve seen odwa with a grey one underneath his black short, looks tacky! and jpp has more pant than short.

    it’s all uniform but there’s leway in how one wears it.

  • Comment 54, posted at 17.04.12 15:59:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 48) : if my kids are ou of line, I tell them. You cannot protect them forever and worst of all when they are in the wrong. That is as we say in Afr: “hy help hom van die wal in die sloot”. My mom taught me that from an early age. If you are wrong you need to face the consequences.

    Again you see that in schools too. Parents standing up for their kids if they did something wrong infront of teachers who were in the right – hence not taeching their kids what is repect and what truly is wrong or right.

    I won’t even let my kid go to dance training, without the proper and neat gear. Its a selfrepect thing and respect to her co-dancers.

    I don’t think Dale is too old for a good old fashion hiding, do you?? :twisted:

  • Comment 55, posted at 17.04.12 16:00:03 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) : Times are changing.

  • Comment 56, posted at 17.04.12 16:02:48 by Ben Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 30) : or Rob Louw, or Wynand Claasen or Graham Hefer.

  • Comment 57, posted at 17.04.12 16:04:30 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 53) : @Megatron (Comment 52) : it by no means mean they cannot play the game. Its just disrespectful and sloppy. But if sloppy is acceptable to you, by all means, let it be. No wonder kids are unruly – there is no set limits anymore and everyone is encourage to be individualistic. There are many ways to be individualistic than wearing your uniform in a sloppy way… Rugby is a team sport, if he looks more like his teammatesn they might be less individualistic in there play and play as a team for the team.

  • Comment 58, posted at 17.04.12 16:07:11 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) : again, I think you guys are disappearing down a rabbit hole with this one…

  • Comment 59, posted at 17.04.12 16:08:36 by robdylan Reply
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  • Wow, an entire article’s worth about Socks! At least the site never gets boring!

  • Comment 60, posted at 17.04.12 16:09:18 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 51) : Well thats exactly it – he obviously feels he plays better with his socks down and I want him playing to the best of his ability.

  • Comment 61, posted at 17.04.12 16:10:12 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 56) : True Ben, but VALUES should not.

  • Comment 62, posted at 17.04.12 16:11:09 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 62) : Yes well if you were his mother then perhaps you would have had a say in the matter. To tag him as slapgat when you don’t even know him in person is just not fair.

  • Comment 63, posted at 17.04.12 16:15:46 by Ben Reply

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  • Well we’ll see what he says. I’ve sent him a message on FB. :)

  • Comment 64, posted at 17.04.12 16:16:14 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 63) : I am NOT tagging him as a slapgat, don’t twist my words. I said it LOOKS sloppy. And that particular point u cannot argue.

  • Comment 65, posted at 17.04.12 16:23:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 65) : Well that’s your opinion. You are wrong, I can argue that point because it doesn’t look sloppy to me.

  • Comment 66, posted at 17.04.12 16:25:31 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 65) : You didn’t say he’s a slapgat but all of you agreed with Sharsmad when she said it!

  • Comment 67, posted at 17.04.12 16:28:21 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 58) : “But if sloppy is acceptable to you, by all means, let it be. No wonder kids are unruly – there is no set limits anymore and everyone is encourage to be individualistic”

    RUBBISH MAN, you just want to impose your verkrampte notions on what is acceptable on everyone, the sharks are not the ARMY or the POLICE!

    why do they allow them to wear green and pink boots? maybe in your mind that should be curtailed too because it promotes individulality, huh?

    CONFORMITY BREEDS MEDIOCRITY!

  • Comment 68, posted at 17.04.12 16:29:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 66) : we are talking the norm here Ben 10…

  • Comment 69, posted at 17.04.12 16:29:38 by Ice Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 64) : Keep us posted :lol:

  • Comment 70, posted at 17.04.12 16:29:46 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 68) : LIKE!

  • Comment 71, posted at 17.04.12 16:31:39 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 69) : Clearly I was raised wrong then in your views. Can I give you my mother’s number? :)

  • Comment 72, posted at 17.04.12 16:34:04 by Ben Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 68) : then I guess the rest of the team supports my verkrampte notions, and thata a hell of a lot better than 2 individuals trying to tell me otherwise.

  • Comment 73, posted at 17.04.12 16:38:02 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 54) : I can’t speak for everyone else, but for me Dale’s socks wouldn’t have been such a big issue if pride and discipline were not two of the qualities that seem to be in serious short supply at the Sharks.

    Had the Sharks played with the same kind of commitment and team cohesion we see from the Stormers in ’012, or the Reds in ’011, then Dale could have worn his socks on his d*ck, Red Hot Chilli Peppers-style for all I cared, but right now it seems symptomatic of a larger malaise blighting the Sharks.

  • Comment 74, posted at 17.04.12 16:39:46 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 68) : why is it a crime to be neat on oneself?

  • Comment 75, posted at 17.04.12 16:41:34 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 75) : or verkramp as u call it?

  • Comment 76, posted at 17.04.12 16:42:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 73) : whatever makes you sleep snug at night baby! :roll:

    what is “acceptable” & normal to you might differ from the next person just remember that.

  • Comment 77, posted at 17.04.12 16:44:30 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 73) : Like I said. If it was wrong why hasn’t the Sharks Union addressed it yet? Seems its not only 2 individuals that are telling you that you are otherwise.

  • Comment 78, posted at 17.04.12 16:45:53 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 75) : Its no crime, I dont think he is trying to be a rebel or any such radical thing, I just think he is more comfortable with his socks down while playing.

  • Comment 79, posted at 17.04.12 16:48:06 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 78) : Haha meant to say, seems its not only two individuals that are telling you otherwise.

  • Comment 80, posted at 17.04.12 16:48:09 by Ben Reply

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  • @Culling Song (Comment 74) : hahahahaha @ “socks on wanger” :lol: :mrgreen:

    now that is a different take on this whole thing not Ice’s mother hen – tuck in your shirt cos i say so – routine

  • Comment 81, posted at 17.04.12 16:50:52 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 72) : show her apicture of him singing the anthem with socks up and one with his socks down ans ask her which one he looks more proud to wear a uniform in. I think ud b surprised at her answer.

  • Comment 82, posted at 17.04.12 16:51:04 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 75) : you are dramatic, who said anything about whatever being a “crime”?

    you are getting your nose out of joint because you think you know better and your way is the only “acceptable” trait to neatness.

  • Comment 83, posted at 17.04.12 16:54:25 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 82) : Sharks players don’t sing the anthem before they play.

  • Comment 84, posted at 17.04.12 16:54:26 by Ben Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 79) : megatron thinks it is. Because I care about being neat on myself and I care about the team I support looking neat and pro, I am called verkramp?? Wait untill their daughters wants to go to church looking like the local streetcorner whore…

  • Comment 85, posted at 17.04.12 16:57:35 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 84) : he might be…if he gets to play for the boks oneday. Surely u are a bit more intelligent than that Ben, it was a hypothetical question.

  • Comment 86, posted at 17.04.12 17:01:12 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 85) : All of this because of socks? REALLY???

  • Comment 87, posted at 17.04.12 17:02:20 by Ben Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 83) : well ur tone in your post made it sound like its not acceptable to be neat…

  • Comment 88, posted at 17.04.12 17:03:12 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 86) : Surely you are more intelligent than that Ice. I was being sarcastic.

  • Comment 89, posted at 17.04.12 17:03:37 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 87) : I just gave my view. You guys attacked it.

  • Comment 90, posted at 17.04.12 17:05:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 87) : we all have our little pet hates, Benna….

  • Comment 91, posted at 17.04.12 17:06:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 90) : I like you too much to discuss this any further with you. Agreed to have disagreed. :)

  • Comment 92, posted at 17.04.12 17:10:22 by Ben Reply

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  • Wow …we have bigger issues then someone’s socks being down. I’ve had the talks about pride in uniform and all that but seriously get over it.

    Some one pointed out that statistically Burden didnt offer alot in terms of grunt work, I would just like to say that he had a considerable portion of the pie chart when it came to points scored.
    Saying that Kyle Cooper looks like a better 80min player and I would prefer the Sharks to invest in him.

  • Comment 93, posted at 17.04.12 17:15:29 by Talent Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 88) : you making wild assumptions about my “tone”, again calm yourself down, this is not high school. it is the professional world. the rugby field is not a court room, not the army, not school or any of those things.

    dale feels comfortable with his socks down and before this thread i HAD NOT noticed his socks were low maybe because i was watching whether he is falling off tackles or losing the ball in contact.

    don’t put words in my mouth, i never said anything was a crime.

    typical woman.

  • Comment 94, posted at 17.04.12 17:15:41 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 94) : ag shoosh, I am done talking to you. :razz:

  • Comment 95, posted at 17.04.12 17:23:49 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 92) : agree

  • Comment 96, posted at 17.04.12 17:26:30 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 94) : “verkramp” is actually an insult, if u did not know.

  • Comment 97, posted at 17.04.12 17:27:54 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 97) : Good, you got what he was trying to do. :lol:

  • Comment 98, posted at 17.04.12 17:31:09 by Ben Reply

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  • I agree with Ben. I fir one are uncomfortable with socks high up. Still don’t understand why rugby socks have to be so “bulky”. If you use elastic to keep it up it’s even more uncomfortable… Or at least to me

  • Comment 99, posted at 17.04.12 17:36:13 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @juba_fan (Comment 99) : hahah, they are actually almost as thin as womans stockings nowadays! Not those bulky “knitted” stuff anymore. Nevertheless, I bow out and have said what I wanted to say. :wink:

  • Comment 100, posted at 17.04.12 17:40:38 by Ice Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 99) : How are you doing dude?

  • Comment 101, posted at 17.04.12 17:51:36 by Ben Reply

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  • Wow. Nailing a guy for the height of his socks. I am speechless. :roll:

  • Comment 102, posted at 17.04.12 17:58:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 102) : Truth be told, we all stopped nailing Dale ages ago. The Megatron/Ice/Ben conflict has proven to be much more entertaining :mrgreen:

  • Comment 103, posted at 17.04.12 18:18:14 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I missed all the action.

    I agree, it looks sloppy. I won’t say anything about the player, but I don’t like it when players look sloppy like that, even long hair that hangs in their faces and the shoes. It doesn’t match the Jersey and it’s not individual it’s a trend. That’s basically the opposite of individual.

  • Comment 104, posted at 17.04.12 18:39:33 by Letgo Reply
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  • Anyway, I don’t think there should be room for individuality in a team sport like rugby. It’s about the team not the individual. And no one has to try to be individual, we’re all extremely different without having to try so hard. Trying hard to be an individual is what makes us the same as every other dude trying to be an individual.

    Anyway, I don’t think it’s a big issue and I don’t think coaches ask their players to pull op their socks, because if they did then I think players would have listened.

    It’s a personal preference. When you walk into an interview are you going to do it with your shirt hanging out and your tie loosed or are you going to try and make a good impression? Once you get the job will you start to go to work in this sloppy manner?

    It’s an impression. We don’t know the player. We make our impression of him from what we see on the field. The shoes, the tatoo’s, long hair, spiky hair… it all creates an impression.

  • Comment 105, posted at 17.04.12 18:43:54 by Letgo Reply
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  • Did anyone see that the Chiefs had all shaven their hair off during their bye. That creates an impression of team unity.

  • Comment 106, posted at 17.04.12 18:46:45 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 104) : All of them are grown @ss men. If they want to wear their socks down or if they want to wear pink boots let them be. I’m sure they don’t care if some of you think they look sloppy. Team unity is not about how you look on the field. Its about playing their hearts out for each other even though their boots colors differ.

  • Comment 107, posted at 17.04.12 19:05:51 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 107) :
    100%

  • Comment 108, posted at 17.04.12 19:14:15 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Sharksmad – The Blog’s Dudette (Comment 25) : Agree.

  • Comment 109, posted at 17.04.12 19:17:44 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • I’m good thanks bed. Burden scored a great individual try,should we kick him out for not playing as a team ? Lol.

  • Comment 110, posted at 17.04.12 20:01:39 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @juba_fan (Comment 110) : And if Sykes wants to wear a scrum cap then the rest of the team has too as well or he can’t. :lol:

  • Comment 111, posted at 17.04.12 20:24:59 by Ben Reply

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  • In the boom times when the economy is doing well, big fat bonuses being paid, and annual pay rises above inflation no-one really gives two sh*ts about the crappy kettle in the office kitchen. But when things slow down and the money disappears, the employees all find a reason to complain and the poor kettle in the office kitchen bears the brunt of it.

    If the Sharks were winning and playing well, not repeating the mistakes of the past, we wouldn’t even be commenting on Dale’s socks (which I had noticed before and I must admit to being irked by it).

    Bring on a change of coaching staff.

  • Comment 112, posted at 17.04.12 21:03:41 by siorc Reply

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  • All this talk about Dale’s socks is ridiculous! I don’t think it has anything to do with pride, I think he actually just wears short socks! He’s not the only prop who does that if I’m not mistaken, both Owen and Ben Franks wear short socks if I recall correctly! Not to mention James O’Connor!

    If thats what the boys comfortable playing in leave him be!

  • Comment 113, posted at 17.04.12 21:15:21 by GAZZO Reply

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  • I know this is off topic, but does anyone know what steve Meyer is up to these days?

  • Comment 114, posted at 17.04.12 21:37:55 by GAZZO Reply

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  • We’ve started a monster! :)

  • Comment 115, posted at 17.04.12 21:51:31 by Ben Reply

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  • Wow every now and then a thread comes by that’s is almost to good to say anything on and just enjoy the ride…

  • Comment 116, posted at 17.04.12 23:05:16 by Franshark Reply
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  • I agree basically with both sides…
    There’s definitely merits in a proper dress code and looking good(not sloppy) in especially the professional arena witch defines the professionals from the amateurs, but as Ben said if it is against regulation then it would have been addressed by now. But also we are all in our rights to say if we like it or not, and a lot of older generation will dislike it.

  • Comment 117, posted at 17.04.12 23:13:29 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 117) :
    “and a lot of older generation will dislike it”

    Aaah, so that explains Ice then. :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 118, posted at 18.04.12 00:27:06 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 118) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 119, posted at 18.04.12 00:56:46 by Ben Reply

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  • Most of us here sit behind our gadgets and moan like old farts, but the fact is that we all wanted to play rugga for the sharks and some of us could have if we put dedication into it. But we preferred to spend our time at Joe Cools, getting slaughtered and chasing fluff and now we find ourselves “here” moaning about socks that are down on someone who is 13th in the comp on tackles made and doesn’t even appear on the list of most penalties conceded.

  • Comment 120, posted at 18.04.12 05:03:04 by NoVaseline Reply

     
  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 39) : Jannie D keeps his socks up but his hair is Beauuuuutiful.

  • Comment 121, posted at 18.04.12 05:49:26 by NoVaseline Reply

     
  • @NoVaseline : no that’s an interesting “call name” :razz:

  • Comment 122, posted at 18.04.12 06:32:37 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 118) : eish, if she sees that ill be in trouble… ;)
    I personally also dislike it, but have learned not to “judge” , there’s in any case more other things(behaviors and appearances) that’s worse than down-right-socks

  • Comment 123, posted at 18.04.12 06:37:30 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 118) : I am rather comfortable with my age, u on the other hand seems to have a problem with it…is it because u will be there one of these days? Ja, the unknown is scary…but you can only speculate if its dreadful or not, I KNOW its awsome! :grin:

  • Comment 124, posted at 18.04.12 07:49:59 by Ice Reply
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  • @NoVaseline (Comment 120) : I never wanted to play rugga, but would not have minded to be a flasher girl! :lol:

  • Comment 125, posted at 18.04.12 07:54:54 by Ice Reply
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  • @GAZZO (Comment 114) : he’s working in Joburg and for some reason won’t speak to me any more :(

  • Comment 126, posted at 18.04.12 08:05:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • The only negative thing I can see with Chadwick’s sock etiquette is that there’s a big probability that he’s not exactly going to set the commentary scene alight when he retires.

    What I mean is that he’ll have a hard time stepping into the talking shoes of the brilliantly eloquent Mr. Brosnihan.

  • Comment 127, posted at 18.04.12 08:58:34 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 126) : i wouldn’t speak to you either…i laugh everytime i see your name pop up on mvovo or vulindlu’s facebook and this tikes are going off in isixhosa… :lol: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 128, posted at 18.04.12 09:40:15 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 117) : are you calling me old? :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 129, posted at 18.04.12 10:11:24 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 107) : okai then I am sure then if one these “grown @ss men” wishes to wear a pink jersey because he feels like it and his girlfriend has asked him to, then by your definition he would be entitled to because “Team unity is not about how you look on the field” :lol:

  • Comment 130, posted at 18.04.12 10:18:30 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @NoVaseline (Comment 120) : a. I never wanted to play rugby, I’ve never like the butch look; b. I have never gone to Joe cools nor have I been so drunk that I couldn’t pursue my dreams. I have, however always made sure that when in Uniform I was immaculate and had the correct attire, and even today as a professional working woman I take pride in my appearance! Its a really small effort really!

  • Comment 131, posted at 18.04.12 10:21:36 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @NoVaseline (Comment 121) : disagree! He should also cut his hair, it looks messy and greasy :twisted: ;-)

  • Comment 132, posted at 18.04.12 10:23:25 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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