Richard Ferguson

Sharks let themselves down against Chiefs


Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 21 Apr 2012 at 18:57
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The Chiefs beat the Sharks 18 – 12 at Kings Park on Saturday night, cementing their place at the top of the overall log and securing nine points from their South African tour. The Sharks go into their bye weekend having lost their first home game of the season, and pretty much out of the running of a play-off spot.

The opening minutes of the match were intense, with the Sharks camping in the Chiefs half and attacking wave after wave, with the Chiefs’ defence holding strong. The Sharks could not manage to get that one last pass away to put a man over the tryline, after spending time in the 22m.

The Sharks’ handling let them down time after time, not able to capitalise on the turnovers won in contact, with the Chiefs able to attack from a scrum platform 15m out. The Chiefs built a few phases from this scrum and Aaron Cruden strolled over for the five pointer, which he duly converted and put his team in the lead.

The Sharks had the ideal opportunity to calm the game down and take three points, but instead opted for the attacking lineout, which was thrown too high, and the Chiefs were able to clear. Minutes later the Sharks again had a penalty which was turned down for the attacking lineout, but Lambie failed to kick out and the Sharks kept putting themselves under pressure.

The Sharks once again attempted to run the ball from their own 22m, but a pass from Viljoen went to ground, after which the Sharks were penalised at the ruck, allowing Cruden to extend the lead by adding a further three points. The Sharks were camping in the Chiefs half before half time, but their handling let them down on countless occasions, after which the Chiefs were penalised and sense finally came through with Lambie banging over three points on the hooter.

The score could have been much closer had the Sharks been sensible and taken their shots at goal, with their ball skills letting them down with poor passes and even worse handling. The lineouts were also a concern at half time, with at least three lineouts going awry. Marcell Coetzee came on at half time to replace Willem Alberts, who did not have the best first half.

The second started better for the Sharks, again having a majority of the ball, and being in a better position territorially, and managed to get the Chiefs to transgress after seven or so minutes, for Lambie to line up and double the Sharks’ score, cutting the deficit to four points.

The Sharks managed to string a few passes together on a counter attack and again found themselves in the Chiefs 22m, where the Sharks forced a penalty at scrum time, and Lambie kept the Sharks in the game through his boot by cutting the deficit to only one point. Minutes later, the Chiefs had the opportunity to extend their lead, after Bismarck was penalised at the breakdown, but the quick was taken and subsequently lost as the Sharks competed well at the breakdown.

An up and under from the Chiefs resulted in Lwazi Mvovo being taken in a no arms tackle, which lead to him being taken off the field, with the tackler Masaga also leaving the field looking rather dazed and confused as to which country he is in. Play continued in the Sharks half and Daniel was penalised at the breakdown, and Cruden duly punished the Sharks by adding three points to their score.

The Sharks hit back almost immediately, with the Chiefs going offside and Lambie again pulled it back to a one point ball game, with 15 minutes to play. The Sharks had the opportunity minutes later to take the lead for the first time in the match, with Whitehead winning the Sharks a penalty at the breakdown, and Lambie lining up from the half way line. The ball came up just short and the Sharks were left trailing still.

Both teams made plenty of handling errors, turning over ball throughout, but it was the Chiefs who had the next opportunity to score points, but Cruden was short and to the right with his 50m shot at goal. The Sharks were left having to run the ball as time was running out, and made good ground through Marcell Coetzee, but Burden isolated himself and the Chiefs cleared upfield.

The Sharks had one last opportunity to run at the Chiefs, but a skip pass went straight into touch and with that the Chiefs had the ball game, or so we all thought. The Chiefs used their chance to score a try through reserve scrumhalf Augustine Pulu, and could have prevented the Sharks from scoring a bonus point had Cruden kicked the conversion.

The Sharks were let down by the basics yet again, with poor handling and silly passes costing them scoring opportunities. The Sharks will be very disappointed to not have made the home advantage count in playing catch up to on the log.

Scorers:

Sharks:
Penalties: Pat Lambie (4 from 4)

Chiefs:
Tries: Aaron Cruden, Augustine Pulu
Conversion: Aaron Cruden (1 from 2)
Penalties: Aaron Cruden (2 from 2)



88 Comments

  • Oh boy… This team is starting to have that vintage reece-edwards-finish-last look to it. :sad:

  • Comment 1, posted at 21.04.12 19:09:49 by CapeShark Reply
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  • What in the actual f$ck is Bosman and Michalak doing in this team???
    So sick and tired of the same old plonkers costing us games.

  • Comment 2, posted at 21.04.12 19:11:27 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Rich.

    Themselves? ALL OF US!!!!!!!!!! :smile:

  • Comment 3, posted at 21.04.12 19:11:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : Again!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 21.04.12 19:16:00 by Danman110 Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 3) : Exactly.

  • Comment 5, posted at 21.04.12 19:22:57 by rhineshark Reply

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  • The truth is that under Plumtree the Sharks have been a mediocre Super rugby team.

    2009 – 6th
    2010 – 9th
    2011 – 6th
    2012 – 9th

    The evidence is all there in black and white. Plumtree must go.

    The assistant coaching non-entities of Bashford and Reece-Edwards must go too.

    And finally, sorry to say this, but a large portion of the team are just not of the calibre to win the Super rugby trophy. In this category I bracket Bosman, Ludik, Ndungane, Viljoen, Michalak, McLeod, Daniel, Botes, Bresler, Sykes, Skeate, Chadwick, Jannie Du Plessis and Herbst. I know it is harsh to say, and some of you may argue that one or two in the group above don’t deserve to be there, but the underlying point is a valid one. Can we REALLY expect this team to be challenging for Super rugby honours?

    And because Streauli is supposedly in charge of player recruitment, he can join Plumtree and his two coaching stooges on the way out too.

    If we keep the same personnel, don’t expect different results.

  • Comment 6, posted at 21.04.12 19:27:03 by siorc Reply

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  • Slightly off topic but why do the NZ and Aus teams only tour for 3 matches when SA teams are required to undertake 4 match overseas tours?

  • Comment 7, posted at 21.04.12 19:37:55 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 7) : 3 matches?

    they only tour for 2 to SA and 2 to Aus.

  • Comment 8, posted at 21.04.12 19:45:26 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 6) : I think you’ve cast your net a little too wide on that player group.

  • Comment 9, posted at 21.04.12 19:45:39 by klempie Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 6) : Dude, that’s basically the whole team. :oops: Look, let’s give a few of those guys the benefit of the doubt, some are still pups and finding their feet but certainly Bosman, Michalak, Jannie DP, Ludik are experienced, below-average players who deserve to be weeded out of the system. Gotta argue for Mcleod and Sykes. Especially Sykes, if he hadn’t come back to help us we would have been even more screwed. He’s a solid player.

  • Comment 10, posted at 21.04.12 19:55:46 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 8) :

    The Chiefs 3 match overseas tour was Force, Cheetahs and Sharks.

    Some of the others only play 2, then have a home stint, then have another 2 a little later in the season.

    The Reds were said to have a “horror” tour this year. But they only played 2 games outside their own country – they played the Sharks, Bulls and Force before returning back home. They then play 2 in NZ a little later.

    Surely the Aus and NZ teams should play all 4 on the trot, as the SA teams do?

  • Comment 11, posted at 21.04.12 19:57:40 by siorc Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 10) : McLeod is average and so is Sykes. Solid you say, I couldn’t agree more – but you need more than solid to be a champion.

    Perhaps if the coaching staff could get the best out of the collective group the team could play above the individual merits of each player, but I think we have enough evidence to suggest that the coaches have run out of ideas.

    If the team was mentally up for it and playing for each other, they wouldn’t be missing so many tackles and losing the close games. Something just isn’t right (and it hasn’t been for a while).

    It will hurt when you accept this but it is only by accepting it that the team will progress. We need to admit there are problems to fix them. No more of the ostrich stuff.

  • Comment 12, posted at 21.04.12 20:03:55 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 6) : Too much 69-69-ing going on :?:

    Figuratively speaking of course!

  • Comment 13, posted at 21.04.12 20:06:56 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 11) : It would make no difference if they DID play them on the trot.

    The Aussies and Kiwis regularly fly over the morning of or the day before the game and straight back the day after.

    I used to call for them to be forced to stay away from home for the whole 4 weeks as well. That was until I looked at the financial implications. About 4 nights hotel stay per 2 overseas games between Aus and NZ sides compared to about 14 if they stayed there for the whole 2 weeks. That is 10 days more per Aus/NZ team per season than currently being paid for. That equates to 100 more days than now.

    That along with any other expenses while on tour as opposed to being at home are ridiculous to try and justify just because we live 1000′s more miles away. It is not their fault Africa is far away.

  • Comment 14, posted at 21.04.12 20:13:29 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 6) : In defence of Dale Chadwick: he should never been thrown to the wolves in the first place. He is barely into his twenties, last year he was playing Vodacom Cup, and now he’s having to start every game in the super 15. This epitomizes the poor player management at the sharks. We should have had a back-up plan for Beast and left Chadwick to play another year for VC. In comparison, Steven Kitchoff was managed and phased in properly. |Feel for the kid.

  • Comment 15, posted at 21.04.12 20:13:36 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 14) : And because of the quick trips back and forth it makes no real difference if the tour games are all in 4 consecutive weeks or not.

  • Comment 16, posted at 21.04.12 20:17:24 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • And as for Bosman passing the ball into the stands, he’s already done that a few times this season… could he have learned this trick from Meisiekind?

  • Comment 17, posted at 21.04.12 20:17:30 by siorc Reply

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  • Reading above I see a lot of player hate. THis is uncalled for if you look at the Brumbies. Here is a team that doesn’t have the depth the Sharks have, yet they are playing well against the Bulls. Many of these players wouldn’t make a SA team. It shows just how much coaching is to blame for the Sharks woes, rather than player performance. Lets hope Plum and co get the boot, and then lets see how bad these players really are.

  • Comment 18, posted at 21.04.12 20:31:06 by waje Reply

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  • @waje (Comment 18) : yes, I did say it would be a difficult topic to deal with. But if the Sharks wish to break the shackles of their now perennial midtable malaise, then the tough questions will need to be asked and answered…

  • Comment 19, posted at 21.04.12 20:59:23 by siorc Reply

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  • Poor

  • Comment 20, posted at 21.04.12 21:03:05 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 19) : That´s not the Sharks way. We put on our rose-tinted shades and chill until next year, because, like hey man, we rock.

    And when we don´t there´s like, next year, mate.

    Someone needs to cut off the DP supply at KP. Quick sharp.

  • Comment 21, posted at 21.04.12 21:06:30 by rhineshark Reply

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  • Just listened to the bridge of the song Embarrassment by Madness on Greatest Hits TV and it contained an embassasing truth, which I would love to relay to Natal Rugby Managament: ‘You’re an Embarrassment.’

  • Comment 22, posted at 21.04.12 21:19:28 by rhineshark Reply

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  • So disappointed ,one would think that with what’s at stake that the guys would pull through . Fact of the matter is we are either good in defence and poor on attack or poor in defence or good on attack.
    Also coaching staff make some idiotic decisions . What is it with them and decreasing our pack size in the last 20 ,is it to raise the tempo? Well it’s not working .
    Michalak needs to reconsider his rugby philosophy because it isn’t working in the Sharks structures. Tired of being the underdogs ,tired of the up and down results and the sloppy play the Sharks are dishing out, time for a more structured approach .

  • Comment 23, posted at 21.04.12 21:23:10 by Talent Reply
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  • If the Sharks could find a hooker who can throw in, a tighthead who can scrum, a captain, a scrum half, a flyhalf, an inside centre and a coach they would be a unbeatable.

  • Comment 24, posted at 21.04.12 21:33:07 by Loosehead Reply

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  • JUST TYPICAL OF YOU GUYS…when we win the players are great, when we lose…they should all be fired…when are you going to GROW UP?????

  • Comment 25, posted at 21.04.12 22:08:28 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Loosehead (Comment 24) : Picking on Lambie is NOT allowed :(

  • Comment 26, posted at 21.04.12 22:28:37 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 25) : Take your blinkers off…

  • Comment 27, posted at 21.04.12 22:29:47 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 25) : amen…

  • Comment 28, posted at 21.04.12 22:29:52 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 27) :
    I have no “blinkers”,I am not a horse!

    I love the Sharks, win or lose, I know their weaknesses as I know the the weaknesses of the many people I love, and I acept their weaknesses, as they accecpt mine.
    You see, I am a mature “old lady”

  • Comment 29, posted at 21.04.12 22:47:08 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • The Sharks’s skillset has been poor all season… how much of that is coaching and how much is down to the players I’m not sure. To spend so much time in an opposing team’s 22 and not score is really disappointing, not for the first time this season :cry:

    But I think we should put last night’s game in perspective, we were playing the team currently top of the log (and not without reason), and I guess we were therefore always going to be up against it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 22.04.12 08:27:30 by CS Reply

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  • Sharks are not coached properly, thats the bottom line! Plum with his 2 sidekicks must go now! Surely the union can see this, and will step in. Look at the no name Brumbies side that is properly coached! Hell no Plum must go!!!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 22.04.12 08:51:55 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • “The score could have been much closer had the Sharks been sensible and taken their shots at goal.” Piss-poor captaincy to go with weak coaching. When you don’t respect your opposition, you’re going to get klapped. We should have taken the 3 shots at goal. What kind of a stupid coy game are we playing?

  • Comment 32, posted at 22.04.12 09:05:11 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CS (Comment 30) : “should put last night’s game in perspective”..lol..typical shark’s way….refusing to face the facts. Reminds me of the Stormers of yesteryears…they would have all these permutations and scenarios..i.e.. if this team loses to that team and that one loses to this one and we beat this one by 50 points this weekend and the next weekend and the other weekend, we’ll make the semi’s… Everyone kept on telling them to fix their tight five but they continued for years with these permutations and scenarios which resulted in no trophies. Their tight five is finally sorted and are now serious title contenders. This is Superugby…a competition in which the last placed team can beat the defending champions..Cheetahs Crusaders last year…The excuses and sugar coating on this site has reached new levels.

  • Comment 33, posted at 22.04.12 09:07:13 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 29) : does condensension come with age? No one here anything about not loving the Sharks…we are all heart broken infact. But WHY should we stay quiet with SO SO much less is being given that what is capable of. Or maybe your “maturity” keeps you in the era of having to accept what you’re given even if it is inferior to what is acceptable?

  • Comment 34, posted at 22.04.12 09:42:18 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 34) : I agree with you. That must be a first :)

  • Comment 35, posted at 22.04.12 10:06:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • Lets just face the facts, we were POOR yesterday and have been for some time, this is the second time this season that we started to get some momentum and the Plum sends on Freddie and Bosman and the whole thing goes Pear shaped!! How can I see it sitting in my house 1000 km away but Plum sitting right there cant?!!! Sad but true they players are `t motivated as they should be, and wrong decisions being made on field, classic example was when we got a penalty shot from half way, I straight away turned round and told my dad Lambie would not have the distance so surely they would give the ball to Viljoen….

  • Comment 36, posted at 22.04.12 10:08:05 by morne1 Reply

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  • I’m starting to hope we lose a lot more games this season. May the managment will wake up.

  • Comment 37, posted at 22.04.12 10:18:15 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Well Strauli is an idiot and so is the rest of the coaching staff. Strauli has managed to lose all the top players the sharks had. Under strauli and Plum we lost barrit, Murray, Steyn, Pienaar and Andries Strauss. We gained guys like Viljoen, Bosman, Joubert, JLP and Ludik. We went from a champion team in 2007 to a bunch of dead beats with a handful of guys playing their guts out. I agree with Siorc but it should be mentioned even champion teams have average players.

    Its time to clean out shop! We cant keep on going like this. Imagine we had the injuries the lions have, we would never be as competitive as them in the same situation.

    What the sharks need is a fullback, a wing, an 8th man, a fetcher. If we have these positions filled then we will be good. Once beast is back we will have a very good front row, with decent locks and a few awesome flanks:)

    @ Mama Shark, A few of us have said that we are not happy with this team and we have all mentioned at some point that we have massive weaknesses in certain areas. We are loyal sharks supporters and want the sharks to do well. Its up to the players and coaching staff to get the results, if they dont get the results then they should move on. Its business, nothing personal! If i dont reach my KPI’s at work then i get the boot the same goes for the players. They are earning good money to be the best.

  • Comment 38, posted at 22.04.12 10:19:41 by Ozbok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) : !!!!Words fail me :)

  • Comment 39, posted at 22.04.12 10:50:58 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Sharks should as far as i am concerned clean out the cubboard and start playing the youngsters so they can be ready for next season, here is my ratings for yesterday

    15 Viljoen, 4
    14 Ludik 5
    13 JPP 5
    12 Whitehead 7
    11 Mvovo 4
    10 Lambie 7
    09 Mcleod 5
    08 Daniel 3
    07 Alberts 4
    06 Botes 8
    05 Bresler 5
    04 Sykes 7
    03 Jannie 5
    02 Bismark 5
    01 Chadwick 6

    16 burden 6
    17 Herbst 6
    18 PSDT not enough time to be judged
    19 Deysel NET
    20 Coetzee 6
    21 Bosman 3
    22 Fred 3

  • Comment 40, posted at 22.04.12 11:42:55 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • Here is a fact, John Smit is sorely missed,Its not only about play but what he meant as a capt and leader

  • Comment 41, posted at 22.04.12 11:44:03 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • What is very concerning is the way the Sharks are being bullied in every match???? they have no fire in the belly :sad:

  • Comment 42, posted at 22.04.12 11:48:44 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 6) :

    Eish I think you’re a bit upset over nothing.

    Sharks problem isn’t necessarily to do with the players. It’s the team dynamic. An example being you all want Lambie as Springbok 10. Good player, but can he play the right sort of rugby in the position? Can he put you into the right places on the field? No, Morne Steyn does it better.

    You can’t chuck 15 guys together and say GO! The Sharks aren’t a well-drilled unit, and they’re not as well prepared as other teams.

    Let’s also not forget the Sharks had a good overseas tour, and that the Chiefs are without a doubt the form team in the competition right now.

  • Comment 43, posted at 22.04.12 11:51:49 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Okay I admit, now I am confused.

    Went through the Sunday Papers and nowhere does it say Plumtree and the rest of the coaching staff resigned.

    Which begs the question : Is he actually watching their games?

    Wonder if I could send my CV to sharks rugby?
    I can`t do worse than Plum and Co that`s for sure! :twisted:

  • Comment 44, posted at 22.04.12 12:03:40 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : Lambie 7?

    I thought he had his worst game to date in a Sharks jersey.

  • Comment 45, posted at 22.04.12 12:34:08 by Ben Reply

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  • Plum and his assistants have to get the boot. They just don’t cut it.

    Worst thing is I actually feel very sorry for them. I really liked them and wish things could have turned out differently.

  • Comment 46, posted at 22.04.12 12:36:23 by Ben Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 43) : losing a game to the Waratahs that they should have won without doubt and taking a beating from the Canes who then went and got themselves handed beating form the Crusaders doesn’t feel like a good tour to me. :huh:

  • Comment 47, posted at 22.04.12 12:40:20 by Ben Reply

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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 44) : That might actually be a brilliant idea! If the Sharks management suddenly get a few hundred cv’s applying for Plum/Strauli’s jobs, maybe they will finally realise how bad it really is and how desperate the fans are for change

  • Comment 48, posted at 22.04.12 12:42:04 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • I see quite a few calls for Mallett as coach. Now that would be exciting.

    But I have seen no calls for a very obvious replacement coach, someone currently out of work, just sitting at home with his feet up, and with extensive experience of coaching an international team…

    Peter De Villiers anyone? :lol:

  • Comment 49, posted at 22.04.12 13:11:49 by siorc Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 49) : Please don’t say that even in jest, Straeuli may read this blog and may see that as a viable option! :twisted:

  • Comment 50, posted at 22.04.12 13:19:19 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 43) : I think you got it wrong by brining lambie into this. I for one think Goosen is a way better 10 than lambie but I dont think there is a better 15 than lambie. With that said I dont think its the gameplan to play territory. The Sharks played territory a few years ago and won games but didnt score tries then some idiot got the idea that running the ball from anywhere is the solution. I agree in that we need to control where we run from and setup scoring opportunities. At the moment we are rolling the dice and hoping we get a try. I dont think it lambie’s fault for not controlling the game, i think its the game plan.

    I think Morne Steyn will be a bluebok… i mean a springbok for a while still.

  • Comment 51, posted at 22.04.12 13:33:24 by Ozbok Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) :
    I am interested to see what JP’s tackle stat was. must have missed at least half the tackles he attempted. the guy is playing himself out of bok contention every game. SuperPat was super average too. doesn’t often happen thankfully.

  • Comment 52, posted at 22.04.12 13:42:02 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Once again, a very good Sharks squad, but we not seeing the goods…

    My team for game after Bye(need 5 points)-

    1.Beast
    2.Bissie(C)
    3.Jannie
    4.Sykes
    5.Bresler
    6.Coetzee
    7.Deysel
    8.Alberts
    9.Mcloed
    10.Lambie
    11.Mvovo
    12.Whitehead
    13.JPP
    14.Jordaan
    15.Ndungane

    16.Cooper
    17.Herbst
    18.Kankowski
    19.Keegan
    20.Hoffmann
    21.Bosman
    22.Viljoen

  • Comment 53, posted at 22.04.12 13:43:57 by JJR Reply
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  • A huge problem yesterday was penetration, a lot of it comes down to individuals beating their man…We had no Deysel and no Alberts for 40 minutes of the game!! :evil: What was Plum thinking…the game wasn’t open it was tight…that’s when you need the big guys.

    And Ludik…really? He always looks for contact, he’s never going to score a try ever again if he keeps going like that…he also has nothing that even resembles a step or a handoff…i would back jordaan at 14, we don’t have much to lose…we will gain speed, creativity and x-factor in Jordaan; but maybe lose some defnsive capability, but a wing’s job is to score tries.

    Was thinking about Sithole; but watched him a few times this year and his basics still need to improve, he knocks on way too often, and his defence is also dodgy at times…he has great speed and strength; but his decision making is also not so great, eg. try and bounce the guy even though there is a lot of space to rather run round him; go on the outside when there is hardly any room to run…forced into touch obviously.

    PSDT was good for the time he was on, which was good to see. I expected more from Botes, he is a lot more effective off the bench. He hardly attacked the breakdown…when he comes off the bench he plays more like a fetcher…when he starts he plays more just like a workhorse,kinda like Kolisi ATM, just makes many tackles, but no too much else.

    Whitehead gets skipped too often, he hardly got the ball yesterday…we needed the x-factor but we kept skipping our x-factor player…stupid. Punisher Pat was not great yesterday, his inconsistent performances so far will certainly not get him the starting Bok 10 jersey. The word of The Sharks’ season so far is dissapointing…what’s new, the same things seem to happen every year during superugby.

  • Comment 54, posted at 22.04.12 13:55:59 by JJR Reply
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  • @Ozbok (Comment 51) :

    Wasn’t blaming him, he’s played well…

    Rather saying that the dynamic isn’t there. You can have 15 of the most talented players trying their best, and still lose to a well-drilled team if you haven’t got the right balance in what you’re trying to do.

    Unfortunately I don’t think the Sharks have the players to solve half their issues, but luckily have a very good schedule now towards the end of the competition.

    Sharks are still on course to make the play-offs, with the Highlanders being the team who may keep them out.

  • Comment 55, posted at 22.04.12 13:56:13 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 55) :

    JPP needs to go back to the wing.

    Sharks need a strong running through-the-middle type centre. A Stirling Mortlock type.

    Second-row definitely needs work. Bresler must be on thin ice… Sykes not much better.

    And all teams will have trouble competing without a world-class 9.

  • Comment 56, posted at 22.04.12 14:02:02 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 43) : I agree to an extent, Lambie can be a match winner; but he certainly can’t get the pack moving forward thanks to his rather short kicking game, and lack of tactical kicking…most of the time he chips ahead and just gives possesion away.

    Sharks have great players; but for sure there is something wrong there. Been saying it for a while. I think it is a combination of these things;

    -No Mental coach
    -A hot headed captain
    -A lack of proper rotation
    -Coaching staff don’t really know what the best XV is
    -Playing off form guys over exciting on form youth
    -No leadership…Bissie and Keegan just playing hard, not leading hard.
    -Backline also seems to a lack a leader.
    -Sharks players always lack patience…havn’t built the phases in ages.
    -etc.

    I wish Sharks would just look how well youngsters like Kolisi, Etzebeth and Kitschoff have done for Stormers. Jordaan and PSDT are on the same level, they just not being used…especially Jordaan…if Sharks had a different coach i’m pretty confident Jordaan would’ve been in the 14 jersey long ago. Man i wish Frans Steyn was available now…he could make a huge difference right now; someone solid to control the game from the middle of the field.

    When Sharks perform like this, i just start looking forward to International games. Boks gonna be really good this year…player stocks keep growing every few months. We keep seeing players that have the potential to be international stars. Crazy depth in SA rugby ATM.

  • Comment 57, posted at 22.04.12 14:11:10 by JJR Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 56) : Sharks need Fransie Steyn…Sykes for me has been really good, his workrate and support play been up at the top. Bresler blows hot and cold. Kankowski back soon, so even more looseforwards to choose from…i would play Alberts/Sykes lock pairing. Lineout not all about height, it is more about accuracy…Sharks need to fix it on the training pitch.

  • Comment 58, posted at 22.04.12 14:15:07 by JJR Reply
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  • @siorc (Comment 49) : ummmmm SO not funny. Someone might take you seriouslym

  • Comment 59, posted at 22.04.12 14:47:26 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • I read Jordaan scored a 50m winning try for U/20′s yesterday…i know its a different level to superugby; but jeez, youngsters can often play even better in Senior rugby than in Junior Rugby. It’s a mental shift. I believe in Jordaan to give us that x-factor and creativity on attack that we seem to be lacking.

    All i ask is for Plum to give him a proper chance to show what he has to offer. Wing is also a great place to get your starting debut.

  • Comment 60, posted at 22.04.12 15:06:36 by JJR Reply
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  • @hendrikp (Comment 56) : Our problems certainly aren’t at centre. Far from it. Fail to see why you even mention JPP?

  • Comment 61, posted at 22.04.12 15:18:55 by Ben Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 60) : Even though I know Paul is your lovechild, I do agree with you. Would play him ahead of Ludik and Odwa when he comes back. What do we have to lose really?

  • Comment 62, posted at 22.04.12 15:20:47 by Ben Reply

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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 59) : Not a Sunday person?

  • Comment 63, posted at 22.04.12 15:22:13 by Ben Reply

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  • Here is an interesting stat. In SR 2012 the Sharks have made 1227 successful tackles and have missed 193.

  • Comment 64, posted at 22.04.12 15:38:33 by Ben Reply

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  • Firstly I dont really think the Chiefs deserved to win this game, but then neither did the Sharks. However refereeing was poor, definite crossing on chiefs try,number of high tackles going unpunished, inconsistency at the breakdown as usual.

    Sharks really need to work on the lineout – we must have the worst of all SA sides. Loosing 3 lineouts in one half cannot be excused.

    I thought Sykes had a pretty good game with the only blight being the lineout. The humidity affected the game – both sides regurlarly splilled ball. Botes actually also had a good game – he managed at least two turnovers and was present at most rucks regurlary. Alberts is not the same player as last year. You could see the difference when Coetzee came on – someone just need to teach this kid not to loose the ball so much in contact. Lambie and Whitehead were both solid. McLeod needs a kick in the ar$e – his service is slow. JP does not have the front on defence for a 13. Viljoen was an absolute disaster.

    The problem I see with the Sharks is that the usual suspects – poor set piece, poor balll retention do not seem to improve, and that is a matter of poor coaching. Players seem to stagnate when they make the Sharks team – no growth.

  • Comment 65, posted at 22.04.12 15:54:11 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 65) : Lineouts sucked and yet a lot of people don´t think Burden is good enough for Super rugby, simply because we lost a few lineouts when du Plessis was out injured. I would love to hear their opinions on yesterday´s lineout buggerup, but I´m not holding my breath.

    In my opinion Burden would have added a lot more value as a starting hooker against a side like the Chiefs than Bismarck did.

  • Comment 66, posted at 22.04.12 15:58:55 by rhineshark Reply

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  • I still prefer Bismarck to be honest. Burden’s work rate (tackling, ruck attendance, etc) is not good enough for a hooker – check the stats from the Blues game.

  • Comment 67, posted at 22.04.12 16:03:47 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Willem Alberts has missed 21 tackles and Charl Mcleod has missed 15. These stats and the ones I posted previously are for the 1st 8 rounds of SR (excludes the Chiefs game).

    Willem Alberts is tied 1st for the most missed tackles this year! :shock:

  • Comment 68, posted at 22.04.12 16:07:45 by Ben Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 67) : He had hardly any game time before starting against the Blues, so give him a break.

    I´m talking horses for courses. Against the Chiefs Burden would have been a better choice. He had hardly come onto the park when he found space around a ruck, but because of the usual lack of Sharks support we lost the ball in a turnover.

  • Comment 69, posted at 22.04.12 16:08:15 by rhineshark Reply

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  • Sharks are 1st with 193 missed tackles. In other words, the worst defensive team in the competition.

  • Comment 70, posted at 22.04.12 16:11:33 by Ben Reply

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  • Still prefer Bismarck to start and Burden to substitute. Bismarck got through a lot of work at the breakdown yesterday – the only thing I would fault him on was the overthrow on the Chiefs line, an the other lost lineouts to a lesser extent – our locks seemed to have been outjumped on those.

    When your hooker puts in 4 tackles as Burden in the Blues game compared to all other forwards managing at least 8 in the same period – not good enough for me.

  • Comment 71, posted at 22.04.12 16:17:55 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 71) : We´ll have to agree to disagree on this one. Bismarck is hardly the player of last year and riding on reputation as much as anything. The same with his boet.

  • Comment 72, posted at 22.04.12 16:21:44 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @JJR (Comment 53) : Like your team, I would however replace Bressler with PSDT. Bressler must play Vodacom Cup…PSDT seemed busy when he came on…think we need to invest in him.

  • Comment 73, posted at 22.04.12 17:13:09 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • Time for the sharks to forgive Mallett for Teichman saga and convince him to come to Durban

  • Comment 74, posted at 22.04.12 17:18:10 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Get Jimmy Stonehouse as coach. Problem solved.

  • Comment 75, posted at 22.04.12 18:49:09 by Qshark Reply

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  • @Qshark (Comment 75) : I agreeeeee!!! He gets all heart from “average” okes, imagine wht he will get out of talent like we have! We have the boys, but no-one seems to play for each other and the jersey!

  • Comment 76, posted at 22.04.12 20:36:43 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 35) :
    Well Rob…that’s it…I am out of here for good…Cheers!

  • Comment 77, posted at 22.04.12 22:42:39 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • Come on guys. You all supported him as Bok coach. Then surely PDivvy is the Right Man at the Right time to coach The Sharks.

    :grin:

  • Comment 78, posted at 23.04.12 02:36:48 by fyndraai Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 77) : why, because I agree that we shouldn’t just accept this mediocrity, but should expect more from this team?

  • Comment 79, posted at 23.04.12 07:30:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • Why do you make Michalak and Bosman the guilty persons for the fact that they loose again. They never played good rugby the whole game and what about the 2 passes of Whitehead and the miss tackles? No, theres nothing wrong with that, but Michalak and Bosman must do everything 100%, otherwise they must be fired. But some of the players can have a bad game with a lot of mistakes, and you you make no negative remarks. I suppose it is because some of you did not even play rugby. People, don’t be so one-eyed. If there is an injury, it is those people that must play. Its not easy if you play for 10 minutes every game. You don’t realy get gametime. Be more positive

  • Comment 80, posted at 23.04.12 08:07:06 by springbok Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 79) :
    I did not enjoy the tone of post 34…seemed a little too much of a personal attack…so when you agreed with the comment, I took it as agreeing with the whole and not just one sentence. Maybe you should have clarified this at the time :sad:

    I don’t accept mediocrity either, however I can accept that some of our players have weaknesses, of which I am sure they themselves are aware, and are working to improve, but in the meantime I will accept them for what they are, as I am sure they would never pull the Sharks jersey over their heads, without PRIDE!

    AS I have said before…people on this blog get too personal in their attacks on players and bloggers alike…before it used to be lighthearted banter but now….

  • Comment 81, posted at 23.04.12 11:44:09 by Me2 aka Mama Shark Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 76) : I happen to knoew him very good. Hy ‘n lekker ou. En hy sal nie kak vat van spelers nie. He wil make them proud of the jersey they are wearing.

  • Comment 82, posted at 23.04.12 11:51:38 by Qshark Reply

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  • @Qshark (Comment 82) : Are you from Ermelo?

  • Comment 83, posted at 23.04.12 11:58:25 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 83) : No Nelspruit. Then moved to Witbank.S I saw him regulary he and my mother works together. I heard he coached Ermelo. Sorry for typos Im on my phone.

  • Comment 84, posted at 23.04.12 12:09:00 by Qshark Reply

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  • He did great work at EHS and also the towns club side. He deserved a shot at a bigger union.

  • Comment 85, posted at 23.04.12 12:20:03 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Me2 aka Mama Shark (Comment 81) : Coming from the one who called me a twit.

    Point is we all are human and get frustrated with the team and even other bloggers. That is what a blog is all about. If you want something more biased towards the Sharks I suggest you join a Sharks supporters club.

    Sorry Rob had to say something here. :)

  • Comment 86, posted at 23.04.12 13:07:56 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 86) : nothing to apologise for in that comment.

  • Comment 87, posted at 23.04.12 13:30:02 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 87) : Didn’t really want to dig up old graves but I was forced too. ;)

  • Comment 88, posted at 23.04.12 16:17:44 by Ben Reply

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