Goosen not in immediate Bok frame?

Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Cheetahs, Original Content, Springboks, Super Rugby on 26 Apr 2012 at 09:45
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Reports of Johan Goosen’s imminent and immediate elevation to the Bok match 22 would, according to an article in Beeld, seem somewhat premature.

Marco Botha, writing for the Afrikaans daily, caught up with the young Cheetahs flyhalf shortly after the latter’s inclusion in Dawie Theron’s SA Under 20 side. With Heyneke Meyer’s first senior Bok side set to do battle with the English in a three-test series that overlaps with the IRB Junior World Championship, a number of pundits raised concerns that the two coaches may well end up in a tug-of-war for Goosen’s services, with the Baby Boks the likely losers.

One can imagine that Theron has pretty clear plans to use Goosen as his starting flyhalf option for the big games, given how much more imposing and experienced he is that the also-talented Tony Jantjies. Any move to withdraw Goosen on the eve of the tournament would, of course, throw the Under 20 coach’s plans into utter disarray.

Meyer, though, doesn’t appear likely to use Goosen just yet, having apparently asked the player to concentrate more on tactical kicking, an area the coach feels he needs to improve on. This might come as a bit of a blow to the “give every 20 year old a Bok blazer” brigade, but bodes well for the future of South African rugby that the structures, for once, all seem to be pulling in the same direction and complementing each other.

Goosen will, I’m sure, go on to star for the Baby Boks and will continue to improve for the Cheetahs in Super Rugby as well. The player knows that he’s on Meyer’s radar too and with open lines of communication between coach and player, one would hope that it won’t be too long before Johan Goosen steps into the national reckoning at senior level.

Don’t expect that to happen against England, though; reading between the lines, it’s most likely Pat Lambie that will continue to deputise for incumbent Morne Steyn for the time being.


  • Let’s not kid ourselves – Goosen is no JP du Plessis :twisted:

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.04.12 10:51:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I am sure he will be in the frame come the end of year internationals. Makes more sense to have him play in the U21 WC than carry tackle bags and maybe get a couple of minutes on the bench.

    But this guy is definitely the business

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.04.12 10:57:00 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • And for other news…. The Sharks have no back up plan…. But we all knew that already didnt we?…

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.04.12 11:17:59 by Uli Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 1) :

    Bwahahahahahaha!! :lol:

    Brilliant! ;-)

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.04.12 12:22:25 by wpw Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 1) :

    And in other shocking news, Nick Koster won’t be named Bok captain, and JP du Plessis won’t be starting 13. :twisted:

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.04.12 13:50:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 5) : There’s something seriously wrong with this Heyneke Meyer guy. He’s just applying way too much common sense for my liking!

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.04.12 15:59:02 by vanmartin Reply
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  • If you are good enough then you are old enough.
    So we can expect MS to start and kick every ball away. Yawn.

  • Comment 7, posted at 27.04.12 07:09:58 by Loosehead Reply

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  • I won’t be surprised to see Grant in the frame..

    He has been around the block, and is playing some really good rugby at the moment.

  • Comment 8, posted at 27.04.12 07:31:55 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 8) : I like peter grant but i think he’s pretty much the opposite if what heyneke looks for in a flyhalf

  • Comment 9, posted at 27.04.12 13:23:35 by RuckingFun Reply

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  • @RuckingFun (Comment 9) : multi-skilled? :)

  • Comment 10, posted at 27.04.12 13:44:55 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 8) : If Grant is in at flyhalf there has to be another recognised kicker because he hasn’t got much of a kicking boot.

  • Comment 11, posted at 27.04.12 15:45:52 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 11) : Francois Steyn will be there to take the long shots at goal.

  • Comment 12, posted at 27.04.12 16:01:48 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 12) : ha ha – ja, cos any time Frans lines up a kick it’s a long shot that it might actually go over :)

  • Comment 13, posted at 27.04.12 16:09:24 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : took the words right out of my mouth.

  • Comment 14, posted at 27.04.12 17:12:24 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 12) : If the fullback is picked on form the it would have to be Joe Pietersen and he isn’t too shabby at kicking for goal and in a pinch he could fill in at flyhalf.

  • Comment 15, posted at 27.04.12 17:14:08 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 15) : But I think Lambie might be picked at 15. So he could kick and slot in at 10 as well.

  • Comment 16, posted at 27.04.12 17:59:06 by Ben Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : :razz:

  • Comment 17, posted at 27.04.12 17:59:39 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 16) : I guess we will have to wait and see but it won’t work having him play flyhalf for the Sharks and then fullback for the Boks.

  • Comment 18, posted at 27.04.12 18:23:12 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 18) : Its not ideal but I don’t think it will be a big deal. It worked for us at the WC last year.

    If there isn’t anyone better at 15 then we have to pick Lambie there. Which imo is the case for the England tests. I can’t think of anyone that would do a better job than Lambie at 15 for the Boks.

  • Comment 19, posted at 27.04.12 18:27:53 by Ben Reply

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