Richard Ferguson

Lambie stars in victory over Highlanders

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 5 May 2012 at 18:46
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The Sharks beat the Highlanders in a close encounter at Mr Price Kings Park on Saturday night, beating them 28 – 16 in a game in which Pat Lambie scored all the points for the men from Durban. The Sharks kept their slim hopes of being involved in the playoffs alive, but did not impress to the point of any of the fans out there believing that they will have any say should they in fact be involved come finals time.

The Sharks got off to a good start, with Pat Lambie getting the scoreboard ticking early through a penalty, thanks to a breakdown infringement from the Highlanders. It did not take the Highlanders long to hit back, with Mike Delany taking advantage of a Sharks offside infringement.

The Sharks shoved the Highlanders scrum deep inside the 22m and won a penalty for Lambie to convert, taking back the three point lead. The Highlanders were then caught offside and Lambie kept the scoreboard ticking with a further three points, and the pressure was kept on the side from New Zealand and not even a minute later, Lambie was lining up another shot at goal for an infringement at the breakdown. Lambie slotted from the halfway mark and the lead was a healthy nine points.

Delany, after missing two kicks at goal, converted an easy penalty from right in front, after the Sharks somehow lost 30m from their own lineout, with numerous passes going to ground. The Sharks’ ill-discipline was costing them early in the game with numerous penalties and team warnings, which eventually led to Jacques Botes getting 10 minutes in the bin for going offside in the red zone at ruck time. Delany converted the ensuing penalty to bring the Highlanders back to within three points.

With half time approaching, the Sharks managed to put together a few phases, after which they got a penalty for Lambie to stroke over the poles. The Sharks were making basic errors and trying to play running rugby from behind the advantage line. A disappointing half for the Sharks but still a six point lead with forty still to play.

The first try of the match was scored by Kurt Baker, a late inclusion in the side after the injury to Buxton Popoalii, which was converted by Delany. The Sharks again had possession and managed to get penalised at the lineout, and the Highlanders took full advantage of a massive overlap to score the try.

The Sharks seemed to have finally woken up, and twice looked dangerous on attack, only for the error bug to bite and possession being lost. Patrick Lambie did manage to get the lead back for the Sharks through a penalty, but the distinct lack of try scoring ability was hampering the Sharks greatly.

Lambie got the opportunity to stretch the lead to four points on the three quarter mark, after the Highlanders were again blown up for offside play, after a great turnover by the Sharks at the breakdown. He slotted a difficult kick with the rain coming down now, taking the score to 21 – 16.

The Highlanders started making errors and within minutes of the penalty taken, Paul Jordaan collected after a nice break from Keegan Daniel, chipped ahead and somehow Lambie got the ball over the line and scored a five pointer, which he himself made a seven pointer, to take the lead to an impressive 12 points.

The Sharks implemented an aerial/kicking game once the rain started, which worked in their favour as the try came from a loose ball and the Highlanders making numerous handling errors as a result of the kicks. This led to good territory for the Sharks as the game was played inside the Highlanders half for long periods in the last quarter.

The basic errors that we have seen throughout the season was still evident, with loose passes, penalties not being kicked out and handling errors (before it started raining) keeping the Sharks on the back foot.

The Sharks played for the win and got it, thanks largely to errors made by the Highlanders, and not through their own initiative. The lack of try scoring opportunities is a clear indication of how exactly the Sharks played this game. It is interesting to note that coach John Plumtree did not make unnecessary substitutions, as we saw the first change only in the 70th minute of the game, with Jena Deysel and Wiehahn Herbst the only subs to get ten minutes.

Paul Jordaan, who many have been calling for his inclusion, made very little impact, due to no fault of his own, as the backline simply got no ball on the front foot.

Tries: Pat Lambie
Conversions: Pat Lambie (1 from 1
Penalties: Pat Lambie (7 from 7

Tries: Kurt Baker
Conversions: Mike Delany (1 from 1)
Penalties: Mike Delany (3 from 5


  • Geez, you had this written up before the final whistle!! Either that or your psychic.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.05.12 18:47:39 by Pablo Dinero Reply
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  • Lambie, my FL captain and hero for the round :cool: :razz:

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.05.12 18:51:48 by JarsonX Reply
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  • i’m convinced plum reads sharksworld…the team played – how ever scrappy – for the full 80 min & he used his subs wisely…

    i expect a thank you email tomorrow ;)

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.05.12 18:53:44 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 3) : funny… I was just thinking that same thing :)

    It wasn’t a wonderful gameplan, but they stuck to it and it worked for them.

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.05.12 18:54:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 3) : @robdylan (Comment 4) : Keegan’s speech gave me that impression as well :)

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.05.12 18:57:46 by Sharksmad - The Blog's Dudette Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : They did, it worked (aided by the rain and slippery ball at the end). Pdivy may still be unemployed, but it looks like he sold his playbook to the Sharks… Kick, chase, defend, hope.

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.05.12 19:10:32 by Pablo Dinero Reply

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  • Between the Vodacom Cup and Super Rugby games, the Sharks managed to showcase some of the proud traditions they’ve managed to cultivate over the last number of years, namely:

    1) The complete and utter inability to win any junior rugby titles, despite having squads packed with talent that would be the envy of many a Currie Cup franchise;
    2) The remarkable ability to, despite building up a near-unassailable lead, still snatch defeat from the jaws of victory;
    3) The ability to win games only through brilliant individual performances, or through utterly atrocious performances from our opponents, rather than through constructive team play;
    4) The tendency to win just enough games to give their fans (against their better judgement) a reluctant spark of hope deep down, only to have it extinguished in the most brutal fashion possible during play-offs

    To paraphrase the bard, something is rotten in the state of Kings Park.

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.05.12 19:21:50 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Well I hope they watch a recording of the game with the commentary on.

    Skinstad at one stage called the Sharks “pathetic”.

    Campo at one stage called the Sharks “predictable” and decried how laterally the backs run.

    And they were right. This was a poor game. The Sharks look very uncoached and I can’t believe that Bashford has held onto his job through all these recent years of mediocrity. At least Plumtree at halftime, and Daniel after the game, admitted in the TV interviews how they are feeling the pressure from the public. Sometimes, the way they play, one wonders if they are completely oblivious to public sentiment.

    The game ended with a win, at least.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.05.12 19:25:12 by siorc Reply

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  • :razz: Luckily Pat Lambie brought his kicking boots and Bismark brought his stealing hands. When those 2 play we at least have a glimmer of hope. But I agree with most of the comments here. It was poor rugby to watch. Thought Breslar tackled well though. Back line creativity is the worst in the competition and Bosman didn’t even play … oh non-existant back line coach, how do u keep your job?

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.05.12 19:55:16 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 7) : The Vodacom Cup isn’t a junior competition. Just saying. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.05.12 20:35:32 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 10) : Semantics…

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.05.12 21:21:35 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Its not often, but tonight I left the Tank very sad, even after the win..

    Need to calm down a whole lot before penning anything worth reading..

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.05.12 21:32:49 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • I think the fact that I don’t really give a sh*t anymore is preventing me from saying too many negative stuff about this game.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.05.12 22:23:26 by Ben Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 13) : I can relate. Sadly.

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.05.12 23:43:31 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 13) :with you on that one

  • Comment 15, posted at 06.05.12 08:29:29 by catfish Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 13) : Some days are better than others, I tell myself I don’t give a sh!t but deep down inside it hurts. What really drives me mad is that we have skilled people like Campo who clearly want to help and understand rugby but Plum’s ego and loyalty to Bash is too big. We can’t continuously have the players on paper but bomb out season after season at all levels like this. We are so clueless and gutless on the field it’s not even funny..Our back-lines don’t understand the basics of attack play…the senior pack is soft and lacks cohesion (Vodacom pack is mean, I love them)…..Brian, get a head of coaching that is going to develop a blue print for the way Sharks play at all levels. Approve an organizational structure that includes a mental, attack and defense coach (these coaches can work with all the Sharks’ teams). Get the best coaches to coach the Sharks at all levels, we can’t have the best players and not have the best coaches…it’s common sense. The players can’t make up for the coaches short comings but a proper coach can make up for the player’s short comings. Ultimately, Brian is the man in charge of the Sharks, I’m beginning to think that he is not the right person to take us forward…there is no other explanation for what is happening at the Sharks…the decisions that are made are pathetic and to be honest, the board has entrusted Brian to make the right decisions, can we honestly say that he has?? Less than 5 trophies since 1998 for our Superugby, CC, Vodacom Cup, under 19′s and 21′s sides is pathetic for brand such as the Sharks!
    What number are we on now?

  • Comment 16, posted at 06.05.12 09:12:08 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • geez, you sharks supporters are such an ungrateful bunch.

  • Comment 17, posted at 06.05.12 09:13:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) : The Sharks are a very different team to the Kings. We expect a certain minimum standard from our team in a way you, with respect, as a Kings supporter may not understand. The Sharks were poor and showed no improvement yesterday, despite the win. If the Sharks had played a better team – such as the Crusaders, Chiefs, Bulls and Stormers – I’m not so sure on the evidence of yesterday that they would have won. What’s the point in getting hopes up for the team to sneak in to the play off places through the back door if they are going to play like this in an away quarterfinal? It will be last year all over again and a sign that these same coaches are just not up to this level.

    Time for them all to go.

  • Comment 18, posted at 06.05.12 09:34:20 by siorc Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) : I think it’s the other way around:-)

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.05.12 09:34:50 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • What a joke!!!!

    A k@k performance by a team and coaching team that is in dire straits.
    Please man you can sugar coat this win all you want, we weren’t in the game, check the tackle count.

    We need a coach that can breathe a new culture and work ethic into this team and the structures.

    Really sad to see this happening but our players are going to look else where for contracts because they will get coached properly and they will be in a winning culture.

    Seriously pissed off about our performance, we are nowhere.

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.05.12 09:38:26 by Reynier Jacobs Reply

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  • @Reynier Jacobs (Comment 20) :

    I don’t think anybody is sugar coating anything, to be honest.

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.05.12 09:41:36 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • Nothing less than 5 points is demanded against the weak Force next weekend. The team better go back to the drawing board this week and work on some ways for the backs to be a little more incisive and threatening. We look to the coaches to lead the way. What tricks do they have up their sleeves?

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.05.12 09:46:09 by siorc Reply

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  • Brumbies: Average team, great coach.
    Hurricanes: Average team, great coach
    Reds 2011: Average team, great coach
    Lions 2011 CC: Average team, great coach
    Stormers pre 2010: Great team, average coach
    Blues 2012: Great team, average coach
    Sharks: Great team, nonexistant coaching

  • Comment 23, posted at 06.05.12 10:27:12 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @siorc (Comment 22) : Tricks up our sleeves? Haaaaaahahahahaa!! You´re funny. :lol:

    Tricks are things which have been conceived in order to mesmerise and outwit. They are then practised over and over until they can be performed flawlessly. Concepts that are alien to the lot down in Durban.

    Halfway into the competition and already theyll have to pull a rabbit out of a hat to make the playoffs.

  • Comment 24, posted at 06.05.12 10:31:13 by rhineshark Reply

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  • I don’t want to sugar coaat anything.we are far from where we can and need to be.there is a lot of problems in the sharks camp I agree. But I chose to support the sharks. Look at guys like megatron or zippy or all the other lions supporters we have on this site. They support. Yes critism is needed.pointing out problems is welcome. But the way you guys go on is sad, you can’t say your sharks fans because you dislike all they do. Sharks supporters ???
    sup·port  (s-pôrt, -prt)
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    1. To bear the weight of, especially from below.
    2. To hold in position so as to keep from falling, sinking, or slipping.
    We all know the players read sharksworld. With such a collective negativity we make things worse. I am by no means happy with their overall performance but man I did enjoy the way we pushed them back in the scrums. Welcome back Beast. And was proud of their deffence in the last 10-15 minutes. Why doesn’t anybody mention the good things. So come on let’s Support the Sharks. I know I do

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.05.12 11:10:44 by juba_fan Reply

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  • @juba_fan (Comment 25) : Well said

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.05.12 11:38:31 by MysticShark Reply
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  • @juba_fan (Comment 25) : you saw beast boring in @ the scrums, yeah? he’s fortunate walsh know nil about scrums.

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.05.12 11:54:00 by Megatron Reply

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  • I am seriously relieved at 99% of our bloggers still lamenting the poor performance of our team despite the win. That differentiate us from clinical analyst instead of being emotional analysts ( like the Lions supporters :grin: )

    I think we are all deeply grateful for the win, but we want the team to REALLY perform like they should.

    Congrats to the boys for guts though.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.05.12 12:10:51 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) :
    Looked to me like the Highlander’s TH was popped upward by the pressure, as opposed to Beast boring in.

    I stand to be corrected, having not re-watched carefully, but I recall the Highlanders going back before going in on the TH side – and that’s not consistent with a LH boring in.

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.05.12 12:16:05 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @big fish: the 1st – 3rd scrum beast was mos def boring in, like he did against phil vickery in the 1st b&i lions test & bryce lawrence let him getaway with it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.05.12 12:51:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) : Hey!! We said thank you for the article you wrote. :razz:

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.05.12 12:53:11 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Since there isn´t a sevens thread. Who are these palookas we call the Blitzbokke?

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.05.12 13:19:13 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 31) : :shock: now mega thinks he is a scrum GURU

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.05.12 15:04:06 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @juba_fan (Comment 25) : I’m with you there ;)

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.05.12 16:39:40 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.05.12 19:13:54 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 33) : offer YOUR opinion twerp or shut up!

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.05.12 19:36:13 by Megatron Reply

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  • I did not watch the game, but on the Supersport highlights package it certainly appears as if Charl McCleod has taken a page from Fourie Du Preez’s “Flap Those Arms, Burn Those Calories” exercise manual. And while that may present an unfair snapshot of Charl’s game, I really feel we need more options at scrumhalf, because neither Freddie nor Conrad Hoffman has done enough to present them as credible alternatives in the no. 9 jersey.

  • Comment 37, posted at 07.05.12 07:49:31 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 37) : I was up in arms about McLeods aerobic excercises! Pun intended. He did make one excellent break that lead to Lambie’s try though.

    FFS McLeod, play the ball and not with the ref’s mind! I wonder how much time he actually waste with his appeals and shouting!

  • Comment 38, posted at 07.05.12 07:59:15 by Ice Reply
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  • Some of the positives:
    - Lambie, Lambie, Lambie
    - Bismarck is showing some improvement – destructive at the breakdowns, much better at the line-outs, and what a clearance kick at the end of the game – pity about the handling lapses
    - some of improvement on defense, just hate that we still let teams break out when we have them under pressure

    Some report credits Keegan with the kick from which Lambie scored, but it looked like Jordaan to me?

  • Comment 39, posted at 07.05.12 08:07:36 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 39) :

    Keegan broke the line, Jordaan made the kick, Lambie scored the try…

  • Comment 40, posted at 07.05.12 08:25:36 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 37) :

    I am not sure if you saw the Sharks XV game, but Hoffmann came on and had a shocker..

    His first three passes went like this –
    1. Over the player’s head..
    2. On the players feet, unable to catch
    3. Again, over the player’s head

    And this from our third in line scrummie?!

  • Comment 41, posted at 07.05.12 08:26:58 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 40) : Don’t forget McLeod started it by ducking under the tacklers after taking the highlanders kick

  • Comment 42, posted at 07.05.12 08:29:11 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 40) : Keegan kicked it, I am relatively sure of that

  • Comment 43, posted at 07.05.12 08:37:36 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 43) : thats 100%

  • Comment 44, posted at 07.05.12 08:41:56 by Uli Reply
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  • One thing we should all be happy about; the Sharks seem to improve every week . Some will point out our lack of penetration but those people are being condescending, all the keotards. Look at the weather and people will understand the sharks played the right game .

  • Comment 45, posted at 07.05.12 08:42:58 by Talent Reply
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  • Mcleod needs to stop running sideways like a crab ,but then again it does buy time for runners…
    Could also be one of the reason our backline is playing diagonally .

  • Comment 46, posted at 07.05.12 08:44:36 by Talent Reply
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  • @Die Kriek (Comment 43) : Checked the video again – was Keegan who kicked it

  • Comment 47, posted at 07.05.12 08:49:03 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 40) : Wrong. McLeod caught the kick, ducked under the tackle and started running. Offloaded to Daniel, who made some yards before kicking ahead. Highlanders fumbled and Lambie pounced.

  • Comment 48, posted at 07.05.12 08:51:02 by rhineshark Reply

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  • This was a must win game – so I was not expecting Champagne rugby. Also played against one the better defenses in Super rugby this year – lowest number of missed tackles so far

    The question is can Plum and his 2 sidekicks move on from here, and start getting some improvement from the team?

  • Comment 49, posted at 07.05.12 08:52:48 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • I’m not entirely sure what people are complaining about. Firstly, despite all the talk about the Sharks being an exciting running team, they haven’t been for a very long time. The only thing fluent about the Sharks backline is their English. The Sharks have been playing smash, bash pragmatic rugby, defend aggressively and score tries on the counter attack, since 2008…

    Yes, they need some new blood in the coaching team, but they also need to start doing what they do do well, well, well! I never expected much better than us being in and around the running from 5th to 8th starting off the season. I had hope, but knew realistically we didn’t have the right knife to cut the mustard, and all that…

  • Comment 50, posted at 07.05.12 09:07:25 by The Quirk Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 41) : Agree 100%, Hoffman is not the answer we thought we had, he can go back to province as far as i am concerned

  • Comment 51, posted at 07.05.12 09:30:41 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 48) : correct, it was kicked by Keegan

  • Comment 52, posted at 07.05.12 09:31:48 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • Time to give Reinach a shot.

  • Comment 53, posted at 07.05.12 09:40:13 by JarsonX Reply
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  • My bok Forward pack;

    What are your guys thoughts?

  • Comment 54, posted at 07.05.12 09:44:39 by Talent Reply
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  • @The Quirk (Comment 50) : I agreed with you until you used the word pragmatic in the same sentence as Sharks back line play. The clue is in the year of your identification of our current style of play – 2008 – when the current coaching team took over the reigns

    The teams that won the Super tournaments (Bulls, Crusaders, Reds, Brumbies, Blues) all scored plenty of tries and racked up the bonus points.

  • Comment 55, posted at 07.05.12 09:45:29 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @JarsonX (Comment 53) : agreed

  • Comment 56, posted at 07.05.12 09:45:36 by Talent Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 55) : to be 100% fair, Muir was still the coach in 2008 – at least for Super Rugby

  • Comment 57, posted at 07.05.12 09:50:28 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 54) :

    No Bekker?

    Potgieter – which one are you referring to?

  • Comment 58, posted at 07.05.12 09:52:57 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 58) : also really surprised not to see “Away Game” Bekker

  • Comment 59, posted at 07.05.12 09:55:07 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 59) :

    And playing Coetzee in a position he hasn’t started in so far so this year.. Way to give the guy a fair shot in the Bok jersey??

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.05.12 09:59:42 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 57) : Most sites I checked seem to show Plumtree taking over in 2008 when Muir got the Bok assistant job. As far as I recall Muir started the S15 season and then practically handed over to Plum in the middle of the S15, or am I wrong?

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.05.12 10:03:25 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 58) : No Bekker ,the season incumbent for the Bulls. Not sure I like Bekker and Etzebeth together ,and Etzebeth gets through alot more work

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.05.12 10:07:59 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 54) : Russouw as in Danie Pakslae Russouw?

    I would have Brussouw starting before Burger

  • Comment 63, posted at 07.05.12 10:08:08 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 62) :

    Okay then..

    Jacques Potgieter injured until after the English tests..

    Playing Etzebeth out of position at 5 is surely not a great idea, and bringing Danie back from fighting off the midgets in Japan, to face the mighty English, while we have talented locks in the country?

    I think you might be smoking some good stuff!

  • Comment 64, posted at 07.05.12 10:10:50 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 54) : 7. Potgieter, as in jaque potgieter? so in 2010.11 play for the kings and live in obscurity but get bought by the bulls, in 2012 play 10 games and make the Springboks :roll:

    what a story!

  • Comment 65, posted at 07.05.12 10:11:55 by Megatron Reply

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  • Would have Bekker and Etzebeth, or Kruger and Etzebeth

  • Comment 66, posted at 07.05.12 10:12:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 65) :

    You have to love it.. ;-)

  • Comment 67, posted at 07.05.12 10:14:44 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 65) : That´s what happens when players move from obscure unions to successful ones. :roll:

  • Comment 68, posted at 07.05.12 10:28:23 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 68) : and the difference between obscurity & success is access to super rugby ;)

    it seems the suits at SARU know that :D

  • Comment 69, posted at 07.05.12 10:53:07 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : Serious, so the Pumas / Griekwas are going to be playing Super rugby next year? At whose expense….Lions, Kings? Come on spill the beans, you seem to have some inside info. :twisted: :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 07.05.12 11:00:46 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 70) : pumas & griekwas are already participating in super rugby and benefitting handsomely…when bjorn basson played super rugby for the cheetahs franchise and the bulls wanted him, they paid a cool R1 million to the ‘Kwas. :razz:

  • Comment 71, posted at 07.05.12 11:04:15 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 69) : I don´t know if that´s going to help, mate. Didn´t help the Lions much and players like Alberts had to move to mid-table Sharks to become Boks. ;-)

    However, if the Kings playing Super rugby produces just one outstanding player with the ability to play for the Boks and help us win the RC and the next RWC it will have been worth it.

  • Comment 72, posted at 07.05.12 11:04:28 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 71) : Nothing stopping any of the players from Kings, Border, SWD being contracted to any of the franchises for the Super series if they showed the promise. :razz:

  • Comment 73, posted at 07.05.12 11:17:23 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 72) : But the good one are already playing at the other unions in the country. Its going to be damn tough for them.

  • Comment 74, posted at 07.05.12 11:20:47 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 72) : surely you’re aware that players like alberts, fourie left because of the unprofessional nature of the lions franchise.

    duanne vermuelen left the cheetahs to province and hasn’t smelled Bok rugby while heinrich is a mainstay ;-)

  • Comment 75, posted at 07.05.12 11:30:03 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 74) : Good one = good ones..there are lots of talented eastern Cape rugby players plying their trade elsewhere.

  • Comment 76, posted at 07.05.12 11:40:50 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 61) : Plum coached the Currie Cup side in 07, but Muir was head coach for Super Rugby 08. Plum took over as full time coach starting with the 08 Currie Cup.

  • Comment 77, posted at 07.05.12 11:44:45 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 73) : it doesn’t work that way in SA, we don’t get cross-pollination across unions/franchises. Only players that are contracted to unions that are part of a FRANCHISE are eligible to play for that franchise, otherwise tim whitehead would’ve just been loaned to the sharks and not left WP, same with jaque potgieter.

  • Comment 78, posted at 07.05.12 11:46:13 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 78) : We borrowed a prop from the Boland recently..didnt use him and in previous years we even borrowed a Bulls lock.

  • Comment 79, posted at 07.05.12 11:48:22 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Whats happening with Frans Steyn BTW? Is he comming or going whats the story?

  • Comment 80, posted at 07.05.12 11:52:29 by Uli Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 78) : Where is Luke Watson, injured?

  • Comment 81, posted at 07.05.12 11:55:23 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 75) : To be fair, before his injuries Heinrich was the best fetcher in SA and part of the Cheetahs CC winning side, if I remember correctly. The same can´t be said for Duanne compared to his peers.

  • Comment 82, posted at 07.05.12 12:02:50 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 81) : i have no idea mate. :razz:

  • Comment 83, posted at 07.05.12 12:20:33 by Megatron Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 82) : if kanko is a BOK then duane should’ve be there long ago!

  • Comment 84, posted at 07.05.12 12:21:48 by Megatron Reply

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  • The pathological hatred for the Kings surfacing again?

  • Comment 85, posted at 07.05.12 12:42:40 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 64) : Switching from 4 to 5 is now out of position??Pff stop it now ,if we have loose-forwards that can fill in at lock then we can have a lock full in at lock ,and to me he has more of a “jumpers” build anyway, many would argue that Bresler is being played out of position and J Marias.

    @Megatron (Comment 65) : And how is Potgieter being selected for the Boks any different from any youngster who made their super rugby debut this year being selected ? Given he is out for the internationals it’s a pity because he has been devastating for the Bulls on defence and with ball in hand.

    Coetzee at 8 ,natural position ,something that has been said numerous times here?? Really think that forward pack would do damage. No fetch but I really doubt Meyer will select one in any case.

  • Comment 86, posted at 07.05.12 14:25:00 by Talent Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 84) : Can´t disagree with that. :smile:

  • Comment 87, posted at 07.05.12 14:28:54 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 63) : I dont think Meyer would

  • Comment 88, posted at 07.05.12 14:30:30 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 88) : Burger will miss the English tests – so I can’t see Meyer having any other choice

  • Comment 89, posted at 07.05.12 14:37:13 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 89) : I heard he will be back before the play offs of super rugby?

  • Comment 90, posted at 07.05.12 14:52:57 by Talent Reply
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  • Comment 91, posted at 07.05.12 14:56:42 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 86) : it is no different! i’m just surprised as he is definitely a “bolter” in my eyes, jeez there were plenty of guys who got exposure at “successful” unions for years just for them to be pipped by a giy from the Kings :razz: :shock:

  • Comment 92, posted at 07.05.12 14:58:13 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 86) :

    A 4 lock playing at 5, in my mind, is out of position. Each of the two jerseys carry different roles.. This is not so much of an issue though. I am just not sure which loose forwards playing in the second row you are referring to?

    Regarding Coetzee, yes, he is an Eighthman, but he has not played there all season. So you would play him in a Bok jersey, against tougher than Super Rugby opposition, in a position for the first time this year? Makes complete sense?!

    As for Burger, he will not be playing in the English tests, as he is injured, as reported on this site a few times now..

  • Comment 93, posted at 07.05.12 15:01:12 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 4) : at the end it was 12 point difference victory (in the rain). felt at times like wearing the landers down. still difficult to get excited.

  • Comment 94, posted at 07.05.12 15:34:23 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 93) :
    I understand what you are getting at but I don’t think it’s that big a deal, let’s just say he has to out play Spies ,which won’t be hard for a player of his calibre?! The only aspects of his game that would have to change would be his positional play and control at the back of the scrum, nothing that is that hard.

    Jean Deysel ,Alberts ,Rossuow ,Elstadt and many more have had time at lock and have done well enough. Hasnt Etzebeth played the Jumper position already this year while Bekker was out injured? Many of our own(sharks) locks are played out of position ,and are doing well. Johan Muller did exactly what I think Etzebeth should.

  • Comment 95, posted at 07.05.12 16:13:46 by Talent Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 47) : @sharks_lover (Comment 52) : @rhineshark (Comment 48) : Yip it was kicked by Keegan, then fumbled by Highlanders and Lambie followed up and kicked it over their line to pounce on it.

  • Comment 96, posted at 07.05.12 17:18:17 by Puma Reply

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