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Sharks hang on for crucial win over Stormers


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 26 May 2012 at 21:34
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After a first-half in which they dominated proceedings pretty much throughout, the Sharks were forced to endure a few nervous moments late in the game, before emerging 25-20 winners over the Stormers at Kings Park tonight.

Ref Jaco Peyper, who had a bit of a shocker in the second half, missed a blatant forward pass in awarding Gio Aplon his second try of the evening and that score, with about 10 minutes still to play, brought the visitors back within sight of a victory that looked all but impossible after 45 minutes. The Sharks had scored two good tries in the first half, courtesy of Fred Michalak and Keegan Daniel and added a third shortly after half time, with Lwai Mvovo the receipient. At 25-6 up and hunting a bonus point, there appeared to be little the Stormers could do stem the ferocious Sharks tide.

Built on the back of a forward effort that must count among the best we’ve seen from the Sharks in 12 months or more, Fred Michalak and Pat Lambie combined well to keep the Stormers pinned back, with pressure defence from the big men smashing their Cape rivals back in the tackle with regularity. Supremacy in the scrums – and unlikely parity in the lineout given the height advantage the Stormers held – simply added to the Sharks’ dominance and they were well on track to dot down a fourth when a wayward pass from Michalak – otherwise impressive – saw Aplon sprint away for a 70m score. That try galvanised the visitors and they duly applied stern pressure on the Sharks lineout for the next 10 minuets or so, before Peyper’s brainfart allowed them a sniff and ultimately a bonus point that they probably didn’t deserve.

Credit must go to the Sharks, though, for defending a slender lead for an agonising last 10 minutes to emerge from this contest as worthy victors. Willem Alberts won a deserved man of the match award that, in reality, could have gone to virtually any of the Sharks forwards on the day, such was the effort they put in.

SCORERS

The Sharks –Tries: Frederic Michalak, Keegan Daniels, Lwazi Mvovo. Conversions: Patrick Lambie(2). Penalties: Patrick Lambie(2)

DHL Stormers – Tries: Gio Aplon(2). Conversion: Peter Grant(2). Penalty: Peter Grant(2).



99 Comments

  • As happy as i am, i hope this is not enough to save plum’s job.

  • Comment 1, posted at 26.05.12 21:36:48 by cody007 Reply
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  • ECSTATIC for the win.
    PISSED that the BP the Stormers got because of the incompetance of the officials might come back and bite us in the arse at the end of the season.

  • Comment 2, posted at 26.05.12 21:43:03 by KSA Shark © Reply
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  • Well done Sharks! A well deserved win! And so BTW…good lesson learnt! If there is some scetchy referee decisions, make sure that it does not matter! Great win boykies!

  • Comment 3, posted at 26.05.12 21:43:59 by Ice Reply
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  • Very well done Sharkies! Now we need to THRASH the Lions next week!!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 26.05.12 21:45:17 by Ben Reply

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  • @cody007 (Comment 1) : you still here? Don’t you have a bridge to hide under… you can come out next time the team loses…

  • Comment 5, posted at 26.05.12 21:45:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @cody007 (Comment 1) : bloke…about 90% of people on here questioned Plums selections for the game…it worked out well…

    @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : Big concern of mine, too…

  • Comment 6, posted at 26.05.12 21:47:32 by Ice Reply
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  • A BP would have been nice – but looking at where we are coming from, handing the Stormers just their 2nd loss is huge in itself.

    Must say, Peyper really let the Stormers scrum play loose with the rules – the substitute TH especially almost permanently had a hand on the ground, and they were scrumming in for most of the game.

  • Comment 7, posted at 26.05.12 21:51:07 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : it’s a huge one that.. it could quite literally end up being the difference between 2nd and 5th

  • Comment 8, posted at 26.05.12 21:51:08 by robdylan Reply
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  • @cody007 (Comment 1) : ur being bloody immature dude, You forget the Sharks went through worse injury problems then any other side when the season started

    Since most plaayers are back have they Sharks been better?? so how is that poor coaching??

    Get a grip ffs

  • Comment 9, posted at 26.05.12 21:52:42 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : 100% correct, so wrong in many ways

  • Comment 10, posted at 26.05.12 21:53:22 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @Big Fish (Comment 7) : I’m too stupid to actually comment on those things…but thought the same.

  • Comment 11, posted at 26.05.12 21:59:34 by Ice Reply
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  • ok so you guys want plum for another 4 years?

  • Comment 12, posted at 26.05.12 22:12:50 by cody007 Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 4) : this is one game I see the lions targeting as a ego booster..they know how to spoil the sharks parade..they won’t play great against overseas opposition but against the local guys they will go all out..sharks needa be ruthless for 80min..no giving leway and getting the bonus point

  • Comment 13, posted at 26.05.12 22:20:04 by shaniboi Reply

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  • Still stuck in Stables car park an hour and 20 mins after the game finished. :roll:

    Anyway, atmosphere was good. Nice to see KP with a good crowd again.

    Really disappointed we didn’t get the BP try. That would have given n us a real shot at top spot in the SA conference…but I think that’s gone now. :(

  • Comment 14, posted at 26.05.12 22:21:08 by klempie Reply

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  • Wow so you guys want plumtree for another 4 years and be satisfied with the annual victory over wp or the bulls? Me i prefer something else

  • Comment 15, posted at 26.05.12 22:29:27 by cody007 Reply

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  • These refs are bloody pathetic nowadays :evil: If I have a stroke because a ref cocks up, can I sue him for gross incompetence?

  • Comment 16, posted at 26.05.12 22:31:56 by JarsonX Reply
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  • Well played Sharks. The battle is won but the war is far from over. Keep piling up the points guys.

  • Comment 17, posted at 26.05.12 22:34:00 by JarsonX Reply
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  • OK. Let’s do some predictions for the last 4 weeks.

    Week 15
    Bulls v Stormers (Bulls 4, Stormers 1)
    Lions v Sharks (Sharks 5)

    Week 16
    Stormers vs Lions (Even Stormers should get 5 here)
    Bulls vs Cheetahs (Bulls 4 points)
    Sharks bye (Sharks 4 points)

    Week 17
    Cheetahs v Stormers (Stormers 4 points)
    Sharks vs Bulls (Sharks 4 points, Bulls 1)

    Week 18
    Stormers vs Rebels (Stormers 4 points)
    Sharks vs Cheetahs (Sharks 4 points)
    Bulls vs Lions (Bulls 5 points)

    That gives a total of:
    Bulls – 14
    Sharks – 17
    Stormers – 14

    Leaving a final log of:
    Stormers – 64
    Bulls – 62
    Sharks – 62

    See how important a BP try would have been now?

  • Comment 18, posted at 26.05.12 23:09:34 by klempie Reply

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  • Let’s assume the rest of the log essentially remains the same

    Chiefs
    Stormers
    Brumbies
    Bulls
    Saders
    Sharks

    The Sharks would have to fly to Canberra for the knockout and on to Hamilton for a final.

    Had we got that BP tonight, we’d have had a chance to put our feet up for a week. :???:

  • Comment 19, posted at 26.05.12 23:13:45 by klempie Reply

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  • @klempie (Comment 14) :
    Still stuck in Stables car park an hour and 20 mins after the game finished.

    That’s cos all the people who actually HAVE a life are sticking around to celebrate a great win! What’s the rush? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 20, posted at 26.05.12 23:14:32 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 20) : :???:

    That doesn’t make sense. The reason we were stuck is cos everyone was leaving at the same time. :roll:

  • Comment 21, posted at 26.05.12 23:19:25 by klempie Reply

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  • I can’t believe no one on here have not mentioned the Beast yet. He scrummed the Stormers into oblivion plus he saved his team mates ass through sheer bloody strength, the dude is just a sheer legend

  • Comment 22, posted at 26.05.12 23:34:14 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • He wouldve been my MOTM by a country mile. Dominate the scrum and 90 percent of the game is won unless the glory boys in the backline messes up. Good thing for us they didn’t. Wish Whitehead was playing though, I bet he wouldve made JdV his cleaning lady

  • Comment 23, posted at 26.05.12 23:37:25 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • My apologies to Plum and Fred for doubting them – well 75% apologies. Fred played really well for 52 minutes, and then became unstuck at bit with that real silly pass. Won’t harp on that though – his play before that was really good.

    Reckon Alberts played his way back into the Bok starting lineup last night. And Keegan was really good

  • Comment 24, posted at 27.05.12 06:40:29 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : A bit annoyed we did not get a bonus point too – 4th try was on when Anton took the wrong option

    Still very good result for the Sharks

    I really got worried when the Stormers seem to have our number in the lineout at the start. Then their lineout just disintegrated – that is rather unforgivable if you have such tall monsters as Etzebeth and Bekker to throw at

  • Comment 25, posted at 27.05.12 06:44:44 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @KingRiaan (Comment 22) : I think I want to get that photo as my desktop background. That was simply amazing

  • Comment 26, posted at 27.05.12 07:00:05 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • I would have given this MOTM to our skipper, who I thought was monumental!Big Willem, made too many handling errors and balls got stolen when he went in. He is on his way back though! Cudos to Marcell as well. He has become indipensible in the Shark setup.

  • Comment 27, posted at 27.05.12 07:33:17 by catfish Reply
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  • Well it’s been a long time coming but it’s great to see a Sharks pack dominate like that again. The Sharks defense on their line was just spectacular. The overall commitment was great. I hope we can keep up that intensity right to the end. Well done to Plum on his selections and I was one of the doubters. Interesting times ahead still in this competition.

  • Comment 28, posted at 27.05.12 08:01:21 by Pokkel Reply
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  • How far back before a try is the ref allowed to go for a decision from the TV ref?
    It’s laughable that we should have a slo-mo replay going back and forth to see if Lwazi’s foot touched a chalk covered blade of grass and yet an obvious forward pass is totally ignored.
    I’m not accusing anyone of bias, it just seems to me that the laws are a bit uneven.

  • Comment 29, posted at 27.05.12 08:05:23 by willyzn Reply

     
  • Some of those earlier close losses in the season is going to come back and bite us in the ass come play off time. The games against the Tahs and Chief come to mind first and the also the first 2 games where we lost by 3. Oh well let’s see if the Sharks can come from behind and win this thing from 5th of 6th spot.

  • Comment 30, posted at 27.05.12 08:05:39 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Willie. The 3rd umpire will have a lot power later in the year and hopefully some of these bad call will not have such a big affect on the games anymore.

  • Comment 31, posted at 27.05.12 08:09:28 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Just watched the highlights package on Supersport’s website. Must say, Jean de Villiers’ pass for the Stormers’ second try would make most AFL quarterbacks proud… How that was missed by ALL the officials boggles the mind!

    But hell yeah, Sharks!

  • Comment 32, posted at 27.05.12 09:06:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 21) :South of stadium in Umgeni rd is secure parking (R20). Natal badminton, bowling club, Auto club etc.Further to walk but quicker entry and exit. To party afterwards at Webber stand behind east stand. Free gas braai use, purchase braai pack and drinks on site, music etc. Or go to Rovers or Collegians, Sharks supporters club. You may see Breyton.

  • Comment 33, posted at 27.05.12 09:24:32 by Ernie Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 26) : It is on the rapport.co.za website. It’s already on my PC. :)

  • Comment 34, posted at 27.05.12 09:32:51 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • well done Sharkies…

  • Comment 35, posted at 27.05.12 09:36:03 by Megatron Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 2) : I am still annoyed over that inept reffing performance. The standard of reffing is going downhill and nothing seems to be happening about it. That is 2 non tries awarded against the Sharks in as many weeks.

  • Comment 36, posted at 27.05.12 09:37:55 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 35) : has your account been shraped?

  • Comment 37, posted at 27.05.12 09:38:36 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 34) : so it is but did you read the article? where Christo the Journo soughta makes out the sharks were fortunate??

    He says Mvovo’s try was not a try and makes no mention of the forward pass by JDv

  • Comment 38, posted at 27.05.12 09:39:40 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • In good news for those Frans Steyn fans, he is now a free agent. Racing lost to Toulon last night. If he is going to be joining the Sharks he can join up straight away.

  • Comment 39, posted at 27.05.12 09:39:56 by lostfish Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 32) : Go Back to last years match between these 2 teams ?/ same ref same forward pass to Aplon who scored, makes one think huh?? :roll:

  • Comment 40, posted at 27.05.12 09:44:34 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 36) : The thing that winds me up is that a relatively inexperienced referee gets appointed to vital games like this.

    Who is going to ref the Bulls/Sharks game or the Stormers/Bulls game? Some rising star? It should be a TOP referee.

  • Comment 41, posted at 27.05.12 09:44:44 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • jeez how good was that first half made me very proud to be a sharks supporter, unfortunatley the foot came of the peddle and we allowed the stormers back into the game (trough a speculant passes and a wayward one)

    But well done to the team and the coaching staff to stick to their gameplan.
    If we keep on playing like this we should get bonus points from all our remaining games.

    Go SHARKS

  • Comment 42, posted at 27.05.12 09:46:01 by BR Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 38) : Typical Rapport. Usually biased to Bulls. Very suprising that they are backing the Stormers. Maybe they are just scared of us :evil:

  • Comment 43, posted at 27.05.12 09:46:13 by catfish Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 40) : Makes YOU think. Not me. Calling someone a cheat is out of line, unless you have proof.

  • Comment 44, posted at 27.05.12 09:46:20 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • lol on Twitter Bresler saying a BIG THANKS to Beast for twice saving him from possible injury :mrgreen:

  • Comment 45, posted at 27.05.12 09:46:25 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 39) : I watched that. I though Toulon were way out of it at halftime and then they go and win. :shock:

  • Comment 46, posted at 27.05.12 09:49:19 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 41) : It is a pretty sad state of affairs. I would rather give a guy like Jaftha a chance than let these under performing so called “top” refs make a hash up of crucial decisions. Let him start with the bottom of the log teams that a huge stuff up won’t make a big difference (although I think he is better than that). He is a good ref and has a bright future.

  • Comment 47, posted at 27.05.12 09:56:42 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 46) : Toulon have a way of looking like they are beaten and a different team runs out for the second half. I am soooo disappointed I couldn’t go to the game. I had some decent tickets too :sad:

  • Comment 48, posted at 27.05.12 09:57:47 by lostfish Reply
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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 44) : Well how come this self same Ref has a reputation of doing the Sharks in?? Even a Stormer friend of mine Smsed me yesterday and tongue in cheek said to me, dont forget we have the Pyper factor,

    And go watch yesturdays match again, and then go watch last years match between the 2 at the same stage

  • Comment 49, posted at 27.05.12 09:59:08 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @lostfish (Comment 47) : Jaftah is a better ref the Peyper

  • Comment 50, posted at 27.05.12 10:00:02 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 50) : Jaftha is a better ref than a lot of the “top” refs but he is lacking in experience.

  • Comment 51, posted at 27.05.12 10:27:30 by lostfish Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 49) : And the Waratahs believe Kaplan does them in all the time and the Cheetahs believe every ref does them and the Lions in all the time.

    Don’t turn PERCEPTIONS of favouritism or dislike into allegations of cheating. The perceptions are already probably wrong more than ahlf the time anyway.

  • Comment 52, posted at 27.05.12 10:50:36 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 49) : If I was the friend who’d sent you that text it would have meant that Peyper could blow the match any way.

    Peyper is unpredictable as a referee and almost comes across as suffering from a little bit of oversensitivity. If he gets pissed off at a team then they can kiss the game goodbye because the 50/50 calls will not be going their way.

    As I said on the other thread, accuse him of having many shortcomings that make a good referee, but don’t just go around accusing him of cheating.

  • Comment 53, posted at 27.05.12 10:55:08 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • Well wasn’t that a game eh?
    Well done to the Sharks. You played a great game and as JDV said, deserved the win. Certainly a difference with your big forwards back.

    As for my Stormers, well we have our bonus point and remain at the top, and fortunately we’ll be getting OUR big men back just in time for the final surge after the Test break. Hope those big forwards of yours don’t get too banged up against the English. :twisted:

    Now on to Loftus to play a Bulls team coming off two losses in NZ. Thank god it gets easier from there.

  • Comment 54, posted at 27.05.12 11:12:16 by Leviathan Reply

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  • Michalak was okay but he still makes very stupid decisions. The pass that led to Aplon’s 1st try and the pass for Mvovo’s try. The latter was way above Mvovo’s head and it would most likely have been a intercept try to the Stormers had Mvovo not caught that ball.

  • Comment 55, posted at 27.05.12 11:33:40 by Ben Reply

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  • That is more like it boys. Well played. We lost a lot of momentum with the intercept try as well as the forward pass try. Kudos to the guys for holding it together to scrape through.

    Pity about the ‘mistakes’, would have been nice to see if the guys would have taken them to the cleaners as I was expecting them to do after the try early in the second half.

    As well as everyone played, I am still convinced that Pat should be fly half ( Sharks and Bok ), even if HM does not think so. :grin:

  • Comment 56, posted at 27.05.12 11:36:47 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Awesome stuff Sharks. Being at the ground, what was strange about this game was the side that played against what was a stiff wind, dominated that half, rather than the conventional. Must have been the hang time on the up and unders.
    Great performance from the pack particularly – change in backrow selection worked – they are really raising the bar lately and making us eat our words. Pity about giving the bonus point away on the fwd pass try. Not sure what happened with Bresler cutting inside, as oddly he actually looked to the right as well, perhaps lack of confidence in passing off the left hand…

  • Comment 57, posted at 27.05.12 11:49:01 by neilster Reply

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  • @neilster (Comment 57) :
    That was so weird; we had an overlap, and he isn’t renowned for breaking tackles.

    Still, another very industrious game from Bresler – he’s really stood up tall this season.

  • Comment 58, posted at 27.05.12 11:55:36 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 38) : Expecting balanced reporting from Die Rapport is like expecting Die Beeld to carry a positive story on the front page; it ain’t NEVER gonna happen. In this matter, I like what the Sunday Times had to say; The Sharks were better in every aspect and deserved the win.

  • Comment 59, posted at 27.05.12 12:04:22 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Well done Sharks. Thought McLeod had a much better game compared to last week. Ironically, Hougaard seemed to pick up on some of Charl’s habits against the Chiefs.

  • Comment 60, posted at 27.05.12 12:12:34 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @shaniboi (Comment 13) : First up, well done to the boys, had no dout we were going to win. Back to your comment, I’m with you on that one, Lions are going to go all out to beat us, they’ll want to use this game to show SARU that they belong in this competition. Our duty is to treat this game as our season’s defining game, a game that will determine if we really have a chance of wining this competition. We are under pressure in terms of log points and have the least points difference in the top 6. We have teams breathing down our necks and waiting for us to slip a game, the first week after the break we have a bye and the Stormers and Bulls play the Lions and Cheetahs which means they’ll get 5 log points from those games whilst we will only get the mandatory 4 log points that come with a bye. We need to be focused and determined to get our 5 log points from this coming game and also improve our points difference. We need to be accurate and ruthless next weekend.

  • Comment 61, posted at 27.05.12 12:23:22 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 55) : Name one player that doesn’t have brain farts on occasion. Throwing the long passes and the skip passes has always been a part of Michalak’s game, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn’t. We should be thanking our lucky stars that he has managed to string 3 decent games together.

  • Comment 62, posted at 27.05.12 12:48:16 by lostfish Reply
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  • Well done to our Sharks. Jeez what a brilliant first half? Was awesome to watch our Sharks finally produce a game we know they can.

    Well done to all the players. Most of all they played as a team. Very proud of our boys.

    Apologies to Plum in worrying about the selection. He got it right. So kudos to him. Fred had a good game, but that pass that led to Aplon’s try. Eish!! it broke all momentum there. Thought were were going to score ourselves and boom there was Aplon running away for a try. Pity about that, but he was good again last night. So well done to him.

    Beast, Bissie, Bresler, Alberts and Marcell were superb. Marcell surely must be pushing Brussow now for the 6 jersey for the Boks. He has been outstanding all year long.

    Just wish for ONCE the ref could get it right. How Peyper missed that forward pass that led to another Aplon try, was astonishing. It was so forward so have no clue how he could not see it or even the AR???? Otherwise Stormers would never have got the bonus point. That could be the point that could separate us at the end, who knows. Just wish we could do the same as we do in cricket and have a challenge. So we could challenge the ref and go upstairs. If it is wrong then we get docked point. Damn something should be done, the refs miss too much sometimes.

    Anyhow very proud of our boys. All in our hands now. Have to win all our games from here and probably with some bonus points. Landers are right on our tail.

    Very proud Shark Supporter today………. :cool:

  • Comment 63, posted at 27.05.12 12:52:57 by Puma Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 61) : We have 3 games left. We have to get the 5 points against the Lions and possibly the Cheetahs. If not we may not make the play offs.

    Such a pity we never got the bonus point last night. Still chuffed we won, but a bonus point would let us breath a bit easier from here on.

    Think Landers still to play Saders again. Going to check the chasing pack who has to play who now. But here are a few on our tail.

  • Comment 64, posted at 27.05.12 12:59:04 by Puma Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 50) : Jafta should have been reffing in this S15 already. He is a class ref, never misses a thing. Most importantly he keeps up with the players. Some refs just don’t keep up and miss too much. Peyper just not a good ref. Missing that forward pass in almost unforgiveable. The AR refs to should catch a wake up. They too should be seeing it.

  • Comment 65, posted at 27.05.12 13:18:37 by Puma Reply

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  • Okay looking at the fixtures for the Landers think it is road too far for them. They still to play: Saders/Chiefs/Reds then a bye.

  • Comment 66, posted at 27.05.12 13:36:13 by Puma Reply

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  • Hands up anyone who thinks we’d have gotten the bonus point with a different team selection? Or at least by taking Fred off in the second half and putting Ludik on.

  • Comment 67, posted at 27.05.12 13:40:13 by Shaz Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 67) : Hello Shaz,

    Really good to see you here again.

    It was Viljoen on the bench so doubt Fred would have been taken off.

    From what we read here it was Ludik on the bench but it was actually Viljoen. So could be one of the reasons Pat started at fb. Pat is a far better fb than Viljoen.

  • Comment 68, posted at 27.05.12 14:36:05 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 68) : what makes you say Viljoen was on the bench? Did you see him?

    Official match stats from SARU say it was Ludik

  • Comment 69, posted at 27.05.12 14:50:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Shaz (Comment 67) : Difficult to speculate on that now…lol…BUT I say it is a sin to play a world class 10 as a wold class 15. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 70, posted at 27.05.12 15:15:21 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • Is Wes still on this site?

  • Comment 71, posted at 27.05.12 16:08:30 by Rahul Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : No Rob I only read that in the paper today. They were giving the ratings for the Sharks and Stormers players and it just said Viljoen never came on. So was really surprised too. I done a quick check on RT as gbs is sharp with naming the teams. He has Viljoen on the Sharks bench. So I guess Ludik probably was not over his injury. Plum must have known and THAT too could have been one of the reasons to start Fred at fh and Pat at fb.

    Anyhow have you heard anymore about Fransie? See Metro is out now so that leaves Frans Steyn free from here on.

  • Comment 72, posted at 27.05.12 16:09:28 by Puma Reply

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  • @Puma (Comment 63) : i think we shouldn’t put so much empathsis on the try but look at the kicking of lambie in the same light..lamb chop missed two kicks last night..

  • Comment 73, posted at 27.05.12 16:14:33 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : I heard on friday night Ludik had been withdrawn as a dumbell fell on his foot in the gym, not sure how true is was however

    I also thought i saw Ludik on the bench?

  • Comment 74, posted at 27.05.12 16:36:56 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 73) : and both very difficult kicks

    The first missed kick was in a swirling wind right on the touchline, the 2nd from the halfway line with that same swirling wind and in rain coming down hard at the time

    be realistic boet

  • Comment 75, posted at 27.05.12 16:44:21 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • I just checked. It was Viljoen.

  • Comment 76, posted at 27.05.12 16:45:59 by robdylan Reply
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  • I thought McLeod was much better..

  • Comment 77, posted at 27.05.12 16:58:10 by Ben Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 76) : well maybe the gym injury was true then, something about a dumbell falling on his foot

  • Comment 78, posted at 27.05.12 17:03:48 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • Ludik was at the side of the field with the reserves. I did not see Viljoen. But it doesn’t matter. It won’t change the result. @shaniboi (Comment 73) : Lamb chop? I think I know who’s the chop, boet. And it ain’t Pat. :roll:

  • Comment 79, posted at 27.05.12 18:28:40 by Shaz Reply
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  • Ludik was at the side of the field with the reserves. I did not see Viljoen. But it doesn’t matter. It won’t change the result. @shaniboi (Comment 73) : Lamb chop? I think I know who’s the chop, boet. And it ain’t Pat. :roll:
    Viljoen has been something of a disappointment with his inconsistency. :cry:

  • Comment 80, posted at 27.05.12 18:29:18 by Shaz Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 75) : @Shaz (Comment 80) : haha calm down I wasn’t been ugly..I love the guy just as much as everyone else..that’s what I call him..

  • Comment 81, posted at 27.05.12 18:41:16 by shaniboi Reply

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  • Viljoen was defnitely sitting next to the field. I was quite surprised to see him there, and totally sober….

  • Comment 82, posted at 27.05.12 18:59:48 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 69) : It was Viljoen, saw him.

  • Comment 83, posted at 27.05.12 19:05:47 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 81) : lol hey we protect our Lambie-gini :mrgreen:

  • Comment 84, posted at 27.05.12 19:06:56 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 82) : You or Viljoen sober? :)

  • Comment 85, posted at 27.05.12 19:11:25 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 85) : :lol:

  • Comment 86, posted at 27.05.12 19:19:05 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 85) : I was, can’t vouch for Tjoppie! :lol:

  • Comment 87, posted at 27.05.12 19:50:56 by Ice Reply
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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 75) : well that might be the difference between winning and losing a game..miss your kicks and your team may be on the backfoot..get your kicks over and u fighting for a first or second place finish..its simple really and that’s why the bulls have been champions in the currie cup and super rugby..I’m not tryna debate lambies ability cause I know he is our ‘wonderkind’ but all I’m saying is what happened if we lost last night..people here would have lost their minds bout the ref..a team has to be prepared to beat another team and the ref too in some cases..the sharks were doing that in the first half and yet the wheels came off in the second and we can’t allow that..especially against the bulls next month..

  • Comment 88, posted at 27.05.12 19:58:04 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @shaniboi (Comment 88) :
    I don’t think you’re trying to detract from a great victory, so I agree with your points in essence.

    Lambie has really worked on his kicking though, and the conditions were tough. I thought picking him at 15 helped nullify the Stormer’s kick and chase – despite the trying conditions.

    The coaching staff really did well in this game. Next up – no compromise on getting 5 points off the Lions.

  • Comment 89, posted at 27.05.12 20:55:39 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 89) : the boys I hope are ready to slaughter the lions..it needs to be done..we needa get our points difference higher too..it could come down to that..but I’m proud of the performances lately..shocked but proud..it feels like since the beast Is back everyone is playing like they should be..

  • Comment 90, posted at 28.05.12 00:04:51 by shaniboi Reply

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  • @catfish (Comment 27) : I thought I was the only one…Alberts had a much improved game no doubt, but who put him into space the whole time?? – Daniel is the best no8 in South Africa..i have no doubt of this (he still wont be selected for Boks though for obvious reasons). I still rate Marcell Coetzee much higher than Alberts.
    Best Springbok loose trio on current form:
    6. Brussow
    7. Coetzee
    8. Daniel
    Bench:
    Alberts/Francois Louw (need backup fetcher)

  • Comment 91, posted at 28.05.12 00:57:27 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • I’ll concede that the Alberts selection was indeed correct by Plum. BUt I think this is based on the make up of the Stormers loose trio..ie NO FETCHERS.
    I still believe that playing against teams with specialist fetchers we will have to field Jacques Botes ahead of Alberts!!

    ON NEXT WEEKEND…
    We must not make huge changes to disrupt continuity but certain players need game time ahead of play offs so this would be my team.
    1. Beast
    2. Burden
    3. Jannie/Herbst
    4. Pieter-Steph
    5. Bresler
    6. Coetzee
    7. ALberts (needs back to back games)
    8. Kankowski (purely for game time)
    9. Mcleod (i guess because Plum wont give any1 else a chance)
    10. Michalak
    11. Mvovo
    12. Bosman/Whitehead
    13. JOrdaan
    14. Pietersen
    15. Lambie

  • Comment 92, posted at 28.05.12 01:06:10 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 92) : Yeah and then the Lions come along and upset the applecart?

  • Comment 93, posted at 28.05.12 04:36:38 by KSA Shark © Reply

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  • @KSA Shark © (Comment 93) : haha NO!!
    That Alberts/Botes comment only relates to the top tier teams – Crusaders, Chiefs, Reds etc and teams with awesome fetchers like Cheetahs and Force.

  • Comment 94, posted at 28.05.12 05:31:15 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • :oops: I am eating some words that I have spoken last week :oops:

  • Comment 95, posted at 28.05.12 07:48:37 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • What is a concern is that the ref and touch judge was pretty much exactly in line with that pass.
    And JDV was popping those passes all night oing to JDJ, even one of them was forward way early in the game which he missed as well.

  • Comment 96, posted at 28.05.12 07:50:54 by SharksRTB Reply

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  • My major concern is still the amount of tackling our team has to do. I would expect us to really cement our position at the top of the tackles made list after this game.

    You cannot expect the players to last a season

  • Comment 97, posted at 28.05.12 07:59:35 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • Well It`s Congrats to Plum from all of us.

    I was certainly amongst the ” in doubt School”!

    I never saw it coming! Pleasantly surprised.

    PS Seriously need to watch it again though. Was a busy night, I missed a lot of the action. :sad:

  • Comment 98, posted at 28.05.12 08:39:01 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @klempie (Comment 19) : lets hope for cheetahs to do us a favour and beat the stormers, we end on top :-)

  • Comment 99, posted at 28.05.12 12:28:04 by Franshark Reply
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