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Another blind moment


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 30 May 2012 at 07:35
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Here we have the second in our “A Picture is Worth a Thousand Swear Words” series, dedicated to blind referess and touch judges throughout the world.

This one is courtesy of our friends over at www.pharside.co.uk and demonstrates more than just a little doubt about the legality of the pass from Jean de Villiers that set up Gio Aplon’s second try at Kings Park on Saturday.

Once again, be sure to notice, in particular, the position of referee Jaco Peyper and ask yourself, calmly and quietly after taking a minute to compose yourself, “HOW THE HELL DID HE NOT SEE THAT???”



41 Comments

  • Yip, this could cost us a lot. It gave the Stormers 1 point. Sure, they could have gone and scored a legitimate try just after that, but the Sharks could just as well have gone and scored from the scrum we would have gotten and if not that scrum, with the Stormers still 12 points behind at this stage we would not have had as much scoreboard pressure on us and chances are we may have gone and scored a bonus point try.

    But lets just take the 7 points the ref gave the Stormers away from them. This makes a massive difference on where we might stand at the end of the competition. It could be the difference between 1/2 and 4/5/6.

    Something should be done so that things like this can be eliminated from the competition…it happens way to much to just go on like this.

    Maybe we should have had a blind moment segment from the start of the competition, because it has been happening right across the competition, at least one like this every week.

  • Comment 1, posted at 30.05.12 07:48:23 by Letgo Reply
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  • In the heat of the game, many a rugby ref has gotten confused and thought he was officiating at a gridiron game.

    That was a great pass from the Stormers stalwart quarterback.

    Let’s cut the Pied Peyper some slack!

  • Comment 2, posted at 30.05.12 07:55:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • We should not forget we have a bonus point against the Brumbies courtesy of a ref mistake too. Whitehead juggled the ball against a Brumbies player before regathering it – should have been ruled as a knock

    I do agree the refs and linesmen are making lot of mistakes, but hopefully these even out over the season

  • Comment 3, posted at 30.05.12 08:13:04 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 3) : That actually happened against the Blues…

  • Comment 4, posted at 30.05.12 08:16:47 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Not sure how a forward pass can be a “great pass” :???:

  • Comment 5, posted at 30.05.12 08:18:12 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Time for some questions…..

    How the hell did McLeod not see the move happening and why didn’t he tackle Aplon? :mrgreen:

  • Comment 6, posted at 30.05.12 08:26:02 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 3) : I don’t want them to even out – I want them out, because you know it’s going to even out in someone’s favour and it’s not going to be us.

  • Comment 7, posted at 30.05.12 08:26:59 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 2) : Well, I saw that forward pass, with a couple thousand fans right away, no one thought he would let that one go. I genuinely thought he was just slow in blowing it up.

  • Comment 8, posted at 30.05.12 08:28:16 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : look at his shoulder… he was clearly already committed to the tackle on de Villiers

  • Comment 9, posted at 30.05.12 08:28:37 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Just a Fan (Comment 5) : What are you on about?

  • Comment 10, posted at 30.05.12 08:28:55 by Ben Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 8) : I also saw it – very clearly as it happened and anyone who knows me will tell you I don’t have the fastest eyes in the business :)

    My view, by the way, is that the Stormers would probably still have scored there had the pass been backward. I guess we’ll never know, though.

  • Comment 11, posted at 30.05.12 08:32:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 7) : It can’t even out in someone’s favor. Then it wouldn’t have been called ‘even out’.

  • Comment 12, posted at 30.05.12 08:33:34 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 10) : I’m also not sure :)

    BTW, I see you’ve been named to play for the SA Barbarians side against England. Well done :)

  • Comment 13, posted at 30.05.12 08:34:01 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 13) : Didn’t even notice. They haven’t called me yet. Let me check… :)

  • Comment 14, posted at 30.05.12 08:35:34 by Ben Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 6) : @robdylan (Comment 9) :

    I saw that. Just taking the piss. Hence the green smiley.

  • Comment 15, posted at 30.05.12 08:36:34 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Hmmmm I didnt realise that Peyper was right in line and looking at the play at that time.

    I wonder if I should email this shot to his law firm. Bahh why waste the time, he already knew about it at about 71:45 into the game.

  • Comment 16, posted at 30.05.12 08:39:49 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Pokkel (Comment 15) : aaah. Meus malus (Latin for “my bad”)

  • Comment 17, posted at 30.05.12 08:40:25 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 16) : I’ve alerted Greg Peters – says they’ll look at it.

  • Comment 18, posted at 30.05.12 08:40:58 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : Is there not an official referee rating system after each match – whereby the ref is scored on all his decisions? Does it require a fan web-site to trigger this process?

  • Comment 19, posted at 30.05.12 08:43:17 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : I hope they were already going to look at it and not wait for some disgruntled fan /coach to take the innitiative of warning them.

  • Comment 20, posted at 30.05.12 08:44:42 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 20) : @Bokhoring (Comment 19) : let’s hope that it would have been picked up anyway.

  • Comment 21, posted at 30.05.12 08:45:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 19) : Snappo.

  • Comment 22, posted at 30.05.12 08:48:10 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Yes, but it wasn’t backward. If you knock the ball over the try line, you would also have scored had you hung on to it, but that just doesn’t count.

    Peyper or on of his AR’s should have been able to see this.

  • Comment 23, posted at 30.05.12 08:53:06 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 12) : Didn’t you read Animal Farm in high school. Well if you did, I was trying to convey the same idea that took place in this book.

    It is always more fair or more for some than others… it never evens out.

    I’d like it to be evened out by things like this being eliminated, not by hoping that by the end of the competition the refs would have made enough errors that each team got 2 tries, 3 bonus point and 1 win by way of referees errors.

    It’s like the commentators saying, I don’t care if he blows it like that as long as he’s consistent…No, if he is wrong, then that would mean he is consistently wrong, which is not acceptable imo.

  • Comment 24, posted at 30.05.12 08:57:58 by Letgo Reply
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  • On the same subject, Christo Buchner really got my goat in his match report on this game in Rapport. He devoted a fair amount of space, telling us as fact, that Mvovo had been in touch before scoring his try and that it should not have stood, but he did not mention a single word about the blatant forward pass to Aplon.

    Agendas maybe, and just last week I still liked the guys work and said it.

  • Comment 25, posted at 30.05.12 09:01:51 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 24) :

    Refs are human, they cannot get absolutely everything right.

    Can you say that absolutely everything that you do in your job is always 100% perfect?!

    Ben’s point was that if it does favour one person, you cannot call it ‘even-out’.

    It will never go away, this time we got screwed, next time we will gain from an error. I bet we won’t get a picture and everybody moaning about it then..

  • Comment 26, posted at 30.05.12 09:02:13 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • for the sake of consistency.

    can we get a STILL on the Sharks’ first try of the season? where whitehead CLEARLY foisted the ball to mcleod who was in front of him?

    can we also get another STILL of the knock-on before whitehead’s try either against the Brumbies or was it Canes…

  • Comment 27, posted at 30.05.12 09:36:05 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) :

    It was against the Blues!! :???:

  • Comment 28, posted at 30.05.12 09:42:26 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) : Hey there you go – juice for your second article – go for it.

  • Comment 29, posted at 30.05.12 09:47:20 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Yeah. We could probably fill a book with these type of incidents. Bryce Lawrence would fill the first seven chapters.

  • Comment 30, posted at 30.05.12 09:56:51 by King Shark Reply
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  • Oh, not to forget Stu Dickenson’s temporary blindness when Thorne speared Smittie after the whistle had gone.

  • Comment 31, posted at 30.05.12 09:58:34 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 29) : see that hand on my avatar? imagine it twice as big and right up in your noggin :lol:

  • Comment 32, posted at 30.05.12 10:04:45 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 32) : see that hand on your avatar? imagine it twice as big with broken fingers. :lol:

  • Comment 33, posted at 30.05.12 10:06:57 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) : No ways guy. Those were beautifully flat passes ;-)

  • Comment 34, posted at 30.05.12 10:07:15 by King Shark Reply
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  • Thorn on Smittie:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/521357/No-show-without-punch

  • Comment 35, posted at 30.05.12 10:09:51 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 32) : Hey Meggie

    Bud, looking for some info. Who are the Kings looking to retain for next year from their current squad? I’m thinking Mpho, Jaques Engelbrecht, SP Marais, their young flyhalf (I think the one who was in the car crash :sad: ) and Luke, but Luke hasn’t played in ages! What’s the story there? Thanks.

  • Comment 36, posted at 30.05.12 10:11:10 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 36) : it’s been quiet on that front, will do a little digging and sure post a reply when i get the info…i know jongi nokwe has been training with the team..don’t know if the likes of stick, mangweni, jaco engels will be retained. our fist choice centre pairing of matthew taylor-smith and siyanda grey hasn’t playe together since the nations cup in romania, so that too is up in the air.

  • Comment 37, posted at 30.05.12 10:17:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 34) : let’s see the STILLS!!!

  • Comment 38, posted at 30.05.12 10:18:59 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : What the hell?! Have they both just been injured at different times? Gray is a class centre, but I seem to recall he got stuck on the wing. Sorry, he’s one I’d retain as well.

    Mangweni is too old, great player in his day, Stick has failed to deliver in the fifteen man game and Engels is a possibility to mentor the young talent.

    I see MTS is captain of the Baabaas, great stuff.

  • Comment 39, posted at 30.05.12 10:25:07 by StevieS Reply
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  • @StevieS (Comment 39) : Sorry, Grey :oops:

    P.s. Thanks, really keen to see why LW hasn’t been playing.

  • Comment 40, posted at 30.05.12 10:25:54 by StevieS Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : Would you mind doing an article on this once you’re done digging? I’d be interested too.

  • Comment 41, posted at 30.05.12 12:53:46 by vanmartin Reply
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