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Coetzee rewarded with Bok callup


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 2 Jun 2012 at 21:15
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A host of Sharks players have made the Springbok squad, with Marcell Coetzee the only debutant.

The forward selection was dominated by the men in black and white, with Beast Mtawarira, Bismarck and Jannie du Plessis, Willem Alberts, Keegan Daniel and Ryan Kankowski joining Coetzee. Amongst the backs, Pat Lambie, Lwazi Mvovo, JP Pietersen and Frans Steyn complete the Sharks contingent.

Fourie du Preez and Heinrich Brussow were shock omissions, whilst the inclusion of the Lions’ Franco van der Merwe and the Bulls’ Jacques Potgieter and Jano Vermaak were unexpected.

No captain has yet been announced, but Jean de Villiers must surely be the clear frontrunner.

Full squad:

Willem Alberts
Bjorn Basson
Marcell Coetzee
Keegan Daniel
Jean de Villiers
Bismarck du Plessis
Jannie du Plessis
JJ Engelbrecht
Eben Etzebeth
Bryan Habana
Francois Hougaard
Elton Jantjies
Ryan Kankowski
Zane Kirchner
Juandré Kruger
Werner Kruger
Patrick Lambie
Tendai Mtawarira
Lwazi Mvovo
Wynand Olivier
Coenie Oosthuizen
Ruan Pienaar
JP Pietersen
Jacques Potgieter
Chiliboy Ralepelle
Pierre Spies
Frans Steyn
Morné Steyn
Adriaan Strauss
Flip van der Merwe
Franco van der Merwe
Jano Vermaak



112 Comments

  • Excellent news and richly deserved. And what we predicted a year back. Nice silver lining to an otherwise abysmal evening

  • Comment 1, posted at 02.06.12 21:19:21 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Good team all round..prior to this weekend I think most of the players deserved call ups!!so let’s see who the starting 22 is for the weekend..

  • Comment 2, posted at 02.06.12 21:20:20 by shaniboi Reply

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  • Amazing – only 3 Stormers.

  • Comment 3, posted at 02.06.12 21:22:20 by robdylan Reply
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  • no Juan de Jongh, no Gio Aplon!

  • Comment 4, posted at 02.06.12 21:23:48 by robdylan Reply
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  • WTF no Brussow

  • Comment 5, posted at 02.06.12 21:24:03 by Mutley Reply

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  • Congrats to all the Sharks boys, especially Marcell.

    The fact that JJ and Olivier made it ahead of De Jongh is just ridiculous.

  • Comment 6, posted at 02.06.12 21:27:22 by wpw Reply
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  • @Mutley (Comment 5) : can you believe it…..

  • Comment 7, posted at 02.06.12 21:27:31 by Franshark Reply
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  • Gio Aplon not in???

    Jacque Potgieter Crazy!!!No Brussow!!!

    No kolisi(wtf)

    Jandre Kruger hahaha…

    He’ll….this is going to be a blue bull team!!!

  • Comment 8, posted at 02.06.12 21:27:52 by BoerSeun Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 6) : It’s a joke!

  • Comment 9, posted at 02.06.12 21:28:25 by Ben Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 5) : another fetcher is for beer believer. Hope it doesn’t come back to haunt us

  • Comment 10, posted at 02.06.12 21:29:12 by catfish Reply
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  • 13 x Bulls
    11 x Sharks
    3 x Stormers
    2 x Cheetahs
    2 x Lions
    1 x Ulster

  • Comment 11, posted at 02.06.12 21:30:14 by robdylan Reply
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  • JJ Engelbrecht out, Aplon in.
    Kankowski out, Kolisi in.
    Kirchner out, Joe Peterson in.
    Olivier out, JdJ in.
    Jacques Potgieter out, Brussouw in.
    Franco out, Muller in.
    Jano, I can’t see who to replace him with but what exactly has he proven?

    That’s the changes I’d make.

  • Comment 12, posted at 02.06.12 21:33:02 by Ben Reply

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  • I am kinda disappointed, Strauss, Kolisi much better than Potgieter and Brussow is the best of all of them I still can’t believe he is not there, and JJ also ahead of De Jongh can’t believe it. This is a Bulls team exactly what I feared

  • Comment 13, posted at 02.06.12 21:33:26 by Mutley Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : No surprise there. I’m surprised Dean Greyling didn’t make the team.. :roll:

  • Comment 14, posted at 02.06.12 21:34:05 by Ben Reply

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  • To all the sharks players who made the bok team. Congratulations… but maybe next time you might want to focus on the immediate task at hand.

  • Comment 15, posted at 02.06.12 21:34:37 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : Is this Meyer asserting a blue preference or is it Rassie giving some the middle finger.

  • Comment 16, posted at 02.06.12 21:35:40 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Awesome achievement Marcel!!!

    Congratulations to all who made it.

    Wow! Meyer going balls to the wall straight of the bat!

    Dropped Brussouw cos he’s been out of form and struggled to adapt to the new rules.

    Dropped Aplon cos he is getting old and not effective in kick-and-chase or the tight.

    Dropped de Jongh cos he probably doesn’t think he has enough of an all round-game.

    I’m guessing Franco vd Merwe is only there cos of the lock injuries and youth in the pack.

    I don’t see an issue at lock though – Flip and Kruger showed today that they have plenty of class.

  • Comment 17, posted at 02.06.12 21:37:43 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) : There is going to be rioting on the streets of Rondebosch tonight. Lead by Houwing and Keo at the front of the mob.

  • Comment 18, posted at 02.06.12 21:38:29 by CapeShark Reply
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  • @CapeShark (Comment 15) : True, but having a test series at the back end of the competition is also not wise., Some players are going to come back to SuperRugby knackered.

  • Comment 19, posted at 02.06.12 21:39:14 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • So I guess JdV will play 13 after all?

  • Comment 20, posted at 02.06.12 21:42:14 by Ben Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 18) : Im wondering what to do for the rest of the evening, find a good movie or head over to the dark side and watch the virtual fall out. :twisted:

  • Comment 21, posted at 02.06.12 21:42:41 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 11) : if this is the way forward I see the stormers winning the CC, they loose non for boks(sorry I m at the CC again)

  • Comment 22, posted at 02.06.12 21:44:40 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 21) : watching missing with the wife, ironically, missing as the sharks victory….

  • Comment 23, posted at 02.06.12 21:47:08 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 20) :

    Looks like it. Olivier has played 12 and 13 for the Boks before, so he would be the natural bench selection.

    Not my favourite, but the selection is understandable.

    I think Engelbrecht is big and quick, but I’m most surprised by that call.

  • Comment 24, posted at 02.06.12 21:48:35 by Big Fish Reply
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  • Anyone know where I can purchase an All Black jersey?? :twisted:

  • Comment 25, posted at 02.06.12 21:50:21 by wpw Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 24) : what you recon, starting with Ruan or Houggard?

  • Comment 26, posted at 02.06.12 21:51:12 by Franshark Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 02.06.12 21:52:28 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 24) : How Sadie must be dreading going to the Bulls now! :twisted:

  • Comment 28, posted at 02.06.12 21:52:58 by Ben Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : Total Sports. ;)

  • Comment 29, posted at 02.06.12 21:53:43 by Ben Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 26) : Hougaard for sure.

  • Comment 30, posted at 02.06.12 21:55:58 by Ben Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 25) : Almost anywhere in the Cape, just not at Salmos place.

  • Comment 31, posted at 02.06.12 21:57:07 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 30) : I hope so, Ruan to cover both 9 and 10 from the bence

  • Comment 32, posted at 02.06.12 22:00:23 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 26) :
    Hougaard; Ruan for security.

    @Salmonoid (Comment 31) :
    :lol:

  • Comment 33, posted at 02.06.12 22:03:17 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 31) : I’m pretty sure Newlands sells them as well! :lol:

  • Comment 34, posted at 02.06.12 22:04:53 by Ben Reply

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  • @Franshark (Comment 32) : Why would you want that with Lambie in the team covering 10?

    Let Ruan cover 9.

  • Comment 35, posted at 02.06.12 22:07:10 by Ben Reply

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  • Congratulations to the Boks! All the Sharks included and obviously to Marcell who surely deserve his inclusion! Not bad for an oukie who did not make CW!

  • Comment 36, posted at 02.06.12 22:09:03 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 36) : Took you long enough! :twisted:

  • Comment 37, posted at 02.06.12 22:10:56 by Ben Reply

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  • Beast
    Bismarck
    Jannie
    Eben Etzebeth
    Juandré Kruger
    Marcell
    Albert’s
    Spies
    Hougaard
    Steyn
    Habana
    Steyn
    Jdv
    Jpp
    Lambi

    Oosie
    Strauss
    Flip
    Keegan
    Ruan
    Mvovo
    Wynand

  • Comment 38, posted at 02.06.12 22:14:12 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Franshark (Comment 38) : 2 props on the bench?

  • Comment 39, posted at 02.06.12 22:16:48 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 39) : OK, better :-)

  • Comment 40, posted at 02.06.12 22:19:25 by Franshark Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 34) : Ha, ha :lol:

  • Comment 41, posted at 02.06.12 22:23:52 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • No Brussow? Well that tells me it will be Marcell at 6 for the boks.

    No Aplon or JdJ???? Very surprised by that.

    All week on all the sites have read it will be Zane for fb????? Could it be?? Jeez hope not, it really should be Lambie.

    Anyhow some surprises there tonight. Think Marcell will be our number 6. NO surprise there he has been truely outstanding this year and deserves a spot. Go Marcell… :cool:

    Anyhow excited to see who the Bok 22 will be from that squad. Not too many surprises I think. Hope Lambie and not Zane!!

  • Comment 42, posted at 02.06.12 22:29:48 by Puma Reply

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  • Sigh. First it was the Springbok that had to make space for a protea……now its the protea that has to make way for a daisy.

  • Comment 43, posted at 02.06.12 22:33:41 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 43) : :lol:

  • Comment 44, posted at 02.06.12 22:35:38 by Ben Reply

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  • @Mutley (Comment 13) : This is as much a Sharks team as it is a Bulls team.

    @Big Fish (Comment 17) : All reasonable assumptions.

    Personally, I’m relieved by the absence of the likes of du Preez and Matfield. Had my doubts about their readiness. The Bulls are still reaping the rewards of Meyer’s labour. Let’s give the guy the benefit of the doubt with his selections.

  • Comment 45, posted at 02.06.12 22:58:56 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 6) :

    JDJ has not achieved much for a while…on attack or defensively…but I agree with you on Olivier and JJ…

    Think Robert Eberson was the real unlucky one…

  • Comment 46, posted at 03.06.12 01:43:25 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Surprises…

    Mvovo ahead of Aplon?!!?

    Daniel ahead of Brussouw??????!!????

    Kanko ahead of Josh?!!?

  • Comment 47, posted at 03.06.12 01:44:52 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @wpw (Comment 25) :

    They seem to be handed out for free in the WC if newlands is anything to go by…

  • Comment 48, posted at 03.06.12 01:47:31 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 47) :

    Oh and Franco…but who else is obviously better though?

  • Comment 49, posted at 03.06.12 01:50:10 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Great to see Marcel awarded for good form…

  • Comment 50, posted at 03.06.12 01:52:13 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Great to see Vermaak getting awarded for many years of great play…

  • Comment 51, posted at 03.06.12 01:54:54 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Had Schalk, Vermeulen, Bekker, Joe not been injured…we would have seen more Stormers…

    The Stormers benefit from this in terms of the S15 though…players be more rested…

  • Comment 52, posted at 03.06.12 01:57:10 by Hmmm Reply

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  • Meyer starting with some really controversial selections here. No Aplon, Juan and Brussouw?

    Did the Lions not show the Sharks what happens when you play with no to the ball player in your loose trio?

  • Comment 53, posted at 03.06.12 07:03:06 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • The Sharks losing had nothing to do with Mienie. They were just poor last night. Right from the whistle they lacked intensity and focus.

    Conspiracy theory: think they had prozac in their drinks :)

  • Comment 54, posted at 03.06.12 07:49:30 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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  • @JustPlainSHARK (Comment 54) : no it was Suzie

  • Comment 55, posted at 03.06.12 08:04:21 by Mutley Reply

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  • This probably isn’t true but it’s almost as though HM had a word to the Sharks and Bulls before the weekend and they saved themselves for the Boks

  • Comment 56, posted at 03.06.12 08:27:12 by Butchie34 Reply
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  • Congrats to all who made the side – absolutely fantastic to see so many Sharkies :) . Welcome back Ruan and Frans – you’re home. Very excited with HM as coach – there seems to be hope in the future for our rugby. Let’s be honest this guy knows how to win TROPHIES…emphasis on the plural there! Also good to see there are no “shoe-ins” and that they guys have to earn their places.

    BOKKE!

  • Comment 57, posted at 03.06.12 08:41:01 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • To be honest the selection of Kanko is shocking – and this is coming from a fan. Meyer obviously thinks he can get Kanko off the plateau and get him back to his best. Good luck…

  • Comment 58, posted at 03.06.12 08:43:24 by CapeShark Reply
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  • Congrats to Coetzee he relli deserved it. No one can argue about Keegan he relli has been knocking hard at the Door and he deserves it, on his form he even deserves so start ahead of Spies(who somehow always runs in the direction of the touchline and not the try line). But the biggest shock of all is de Jong and Aplon . Come on now , de Jong is the first choice to start at 13 in the whole of SA. There is no specialist 13 in that squad. I’m a sharks fan yes but I wouldn’t have picked Kankowski , that spot belongs to Kolisi. Mvovo is currently the best on form number 11 in SA, deserves that spot but we know Habana will start ahead and that’s understandable(experience) . As for Franco vd Merve(where is Muller , or even Mostert) rubbish selection there. And the ommition of Brussow(form is down but the guy has class) . And this tendency of Vermaak . I’m very angry about that one . There are many scrumhalves in SA that have actually started and did well for their teams (McLeaod?? Duvenage??). Kirchener ahead of Joe Pietersen is just Stupidity . JJ Engelbrech(don’t get me started) now that one just went and proved for me . We have gotten ourselves another Blue Bulls coach not a SpringBok.

  • Comment 59, posted at 03.06.12 08:51:04 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • We all expected this ,Meyers formula will be easy to figure out .We are going to get clapped by the Southern Hemisphere teams .

    Leaving out Gio Aplon is understandable since he is getting old but Brussow (which we all expected to be left out) is not.

    JJ Engelbrecht and Wynand Olivier ,seen these guys been turned inside out by players like Quade Cooper ,Carter ,Cruden and SBW .

    We should be worried ,I expect Meyer to battle considerably if he continues with this archaic style of rugby.

  • Comment 60, posted at 03.06.12 08:58:51 by Talent Reply
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  • Think Grant is possibly also unlucky…

    And either Aplon or Pieterson give way more that Krusty Kirchner

    Also would have like to see Kolisi there ahead of Potgieter who has hardly played this season???

  • Comment 61, posted at 03.06.12 09:01:40 by CS Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 60) : Yip, and for all of De Jongh’s short comings he is part of a team that has the best defensive record in the Super 15, so MUST be better than Engelbrecht and Olivier

  • Comment 62, posted at 03.06.12 09:03:21 by CS Reply

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  • I guess though, once you choose your starting backline:

    9 Hougaard
    10 Steyn
    11 Habana
    12 Steyn
    13 de Villiers
    14 Pietersen
    15 Lambie

    With Ruan covering 9, 10 & 15
    Mvovo or Basson covering wing,
    and Lambie covering Centre…

    it leaves very little place for Olivier and Engelbrecht anyway? Hopefully!

  • Comment 63, posted at 03.06.12 09:07:21 by CS Reply

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  • I personally don’t reguad Jean de Villiers and anythng but a 12 and chances are we will see him at 13 because that position belongs to Frans Steyn . Juan de Jong is the best 13 in SA. Stromers coach must do like Plum(for Keegan) and tell Meyer to open his eyes.

  • Comment 64, posted at 03.06.12 09:07:51 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @CS (Comment 63) : I must day though, when compared to a backline that could contain:

    Carter
    SBW
    Smith
    Kahui
    Dagg

    There’s nothing in our backline that would really scare me if I was an opponent

  • Comment 65, posted at 03.06.12 09:09:17 by CS Reply

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  • @CS except for Frans Steyn ofcorse

  • Comment 66, posted at 03.06.12 09:12:53 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • Stormers management very chuffed. 4 weeks off while the Bulls and Sharks players get bashed up doing national duty.

  • Comment 67, posted at 03.06.12 09:14:03 by klempie Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 47) : How is Mvovo ahead of Aplon a surprise??? Make no mistake Aplon should be there but Mvovo has been great this season….
    Daniel and Brussow are completely different players, so depends on where HM plays him… As a 6 Brussow takes it hands down – As an 8 Daniel takes it hands down…
    And while I believe it was strange to include Kanko based on game time – u are clearly a fan of BIG GROOT STAMPCAR backrowers. When close to form Kanko is exceptional…
    so for me it should be:

    1. Aplon for Kirchner
    2. de Jongh for Olivier
    3. Eberhson for Engelbrecht
    4. BRUSSOW IS NO. 6 NO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!
    5. Grant for Jantjies (and Morne in my opinion)

    Personally I agree with what HM sees in Kankowski and Vermaak…but still questionable selections

    My team:
    1. Beast
    2. Bismarck
    3. Jannie
    4. vd Merwe (only due to experience – cant have 2 debutants)
    5. Kruger
    6. BRUSSOW
    7. Coetzee
    8. Daniel

    9. Pienaar (better tactically)
    10. Morne (no matter what we think – HE WILL BE THERE)
    11. Hougaard (more devastating from wing)
    12. Steyn
    13. de Villiers(C) (if you think he lacks pace u r kidding urself)
    14. Pietersen
    15. Lambie

    16. Strauss
    17. Oosthuizen
    18. Etzebeth
    19. Alberts (lock and loosie)
    20. Kankowski
    21. Eberhson
    22. Aplon

  • Comment 68, posted at 03.06.12 09:49:51 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • but here my dream team:
    1. Beast
    2. Bismarck
    3. Jannie
    4. Etzebeth
    5. Bekker
    6. Brussow
    7. Schalk (C)
    8. Daniel
    9. Pienaar
    10. Goosen
    11. Hougaard
    12. Steyn
    13. Eberhson
    14. Pietersen
    15. Lambie

    16. Strauss
    17. Oosthuizen
    18. Kruger
    19. Vermeulen
    20. Coetzee
    21. de Villiers
    22. Aplon

  • Comment 69, posted at 03.06.12 09:55:59 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 69) : very balanced team (the first not the dream team) . But I still believe McLeod or Duvenage should be ahead of Vermaak and I guess you don’t favour Mvovo much. Your thoughts on Juan de Jongh

  • Comment 70, posted at 03.06.12 10:00:21 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • Well done to Marcell and all the other Sharks for making the squad. 10 current Sharks players in the squad yet we are not in the top 6…what’s HM telling us loud and clear??

  • Comment 71, posted at 03.06.12 10:28:21 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • No I think MVOVO is awesome…but with Hougaard and co u have greater playing diversity – multiple positions, kicking etc.
    I also rate de Jongh (not my top 13) but definately in my squad of 32…i just rate Eberhson skills and commitment…

  • Comment 72, posted at 03.06.12 10:38:03 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 71) : that we are loaded with gr8 players…but in the Sharks they are all individuals rather than a team…and this 4 or 5 years of the same stuff..surely by now management should take responsibility for arrogance, underestimating, complacency, and of course team selections..agree??

  • Comment 73, posted at 03.06.12 10:43:25 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @AYA11 (Comment 70) : But I disagree about McLeod…to me he is extremely overrated. perhaps Duvenhage but McLeod is well below S15 and test level…in my opinion anyway

  • Comment 74, posted at 03.06.12 10:45:21 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 73) : But then what is he saying about the Stormers with their 3 players but topping the conference or the Bulls who have also won the same amount of games as us an dhave more selections.

  • Comment 75, posted at 03.06.12 10:52:03 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • well the Stormers have played more like a team all season compared to the Sharks…much more tight-knit unit…and well we all know why there are so many Bulls players in the team..Spies, Kirchner, Olivier, Engelbrecht and Potgieter should not be there

  • Comment 76, posted at 03.06.12 10:55:59 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 12) : agree on Crusty, but is Joe not injured?

  • Comment 77, posted at 03.06.12 11:13:08 by Ice Reply
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  • Yes he is.

  • Comment 78, posted at 03.06.12 11:16:34 by Ben Reply

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  • @AYA11 (Comment 70) :

    Habana has been good this year…I’ll pick him ahead of Aplon, Hougaard, Mvovo…plus you lose a great deal of pace if you pick any of those 3 ahead of Habana…(Not as much with Aplon as you do with the other 2…

    Vermaak has been good and has a lot more to offer that Mcloed and Devenhage…cleans ball so quick…good defense…better kick than both those and his extreme pace improving the cross and scramble defense of any team…

  • Comment 79, posted at 03.06.12 11:30:57 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 72) :

    With you on Eberson…good on attack…solid on def…good pace…and he steals a lot of balls at tackled ball situation…

  • Comment 80, posted at 03.06.12 11:33:54 by Hmmm Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 79) :you can’t take it away from Duvenage and McLeod that they start games, therefore impact games and hav far greater experience in a top level competition environment . All vermaak has done is bench.

  • Comment 81, posted at 03.06.12 11:35:48 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • My choice for Bok loose trio would have been Coetzee, Kolisi and Burger (when fit), with Alberts coming off the bench.

  • Comment 82, posted at 03.06.12 11:37:57 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @Hmmm (Comment 79) : dude you kidding :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
    Habana has been good this year…I’ll pick him ahead of Aplon, Hougaard, Mvovo…plus you lose a great deal of pace if you pick any of those 3 ahead of Habana…(Not as much with Aplon as you do with the other 2…

  • Comment 83, posted at 03.06.12 11:49:42 by Talent Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 73) : Agree!

  • Comment 84, posted at 03.06.12 11:50:51 by GreatSharksays Reply

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  • @GreatSharksays (Comment 71) : he’s telling us we have some truly amazing players…

  • Comment 85, posted at 03.06.12 11:56:10 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Hmmm (Comment 80) : how many times has Mvovo’s pace been doubted and he proved himself otherwise this year? What he did 2 the Hurricanes? Nd then after that here in south africa the amount of individual tries he has scored through sheer pace.

  • Comment 86, posted at 03.06.12 11:56:48 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 85) : And that being 7th on the log is a disgrace..

  • Comment 87, posted at 03.06.12 11:58:22 by Ben Reply

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  • @AYA11 (Comment 86) : You are talking to a empty nutshell. Don’t even bother..

  • Comment 88, posted at 03.06.12 12:00:16 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 12) :

    Agreed on all those points.

    The 1st test is gonna be interesting.

  • Comment 89, posted at 03.06.12 12:01:50 by csb Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 87) : I don’t think he’s making a comment either way, but I suppose you could read between the lines.

    Sharks have better players… clearly Stormers are a better team. Heyneke clearly sees more potential in the Sharks individuals than he does in the Stormers ones.

    Point is, if he can get those same (Sharks) players to perform consistently in a different setup, then we know where the problem lies… i.e. not with the players.

  • Comment 90, posted at 03.06.12 12:04:04 by robdylan Reply
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  • Is it unpatriotic of me to hope Meyer selects a whole lot of Bulls for the 1st test and the English thrash us? :???:

  • Comment 91, posted at 03.06.12 12:04:12 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 91) : No ,think alot of people will be having the same wish.

  • Comment 92, posted at 03.06.12 12:07:06 by Talent Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 91) :I doubt that will happen because firstly the front 3 is going to be an all Shark affair and then in the loose trio we will have 2 players starting , in the form of Alberts and Coetzee . And again in the backline its Lambie , JP , and Frans . That’s a total of 8 sharks in the starting line up

  • Comment 93, posted at 03.06.12 12:08:57 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @Ben (Comment 91) :But I would also like to see that happen so that Meyer can be exposed and he can do away with this tendency of making the Springboks a Bulls team , and him getting rid of that mentality nice and early would be great

  • Comment 94, posted at 03.06.12 12:12:47 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @AYA11 (Comment 94) : That’s exactly what I want. Welcome to the site btw.

  • Comment 95, posted at 03.06.12 12:16:39 by Ben Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 95) :Thanx boet. I would like to see the Stormers buy Jantjies so that we can see him replace Morne because truthfully speaking we need sum1 who can offer much more than kicks at goal. I think other than Goosen . Jantjies is best and he needs to move from the Lions if he is to be taken seriously at the Boks.

  • Comment 96, posted at 03.06.12 12:23:44 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : Thank you.

  • Comment 97, posted at 03.06.12 12:35:05 by klempie Reply

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  • @Ben (Comment 88) : :lol:

  • Comment 98, posted at 03.06.12 12:36:28 by klempie Reply

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  • @AYA11 (Comment 96) :

    I wish to ask a question . Instead of taking the few quality players the Lions have away and totally killing them , Why not help to build them up and improve them .

    I think SA rugby will be stronger if we have 4 , 5 very good teams than it would be if we have all the worth while players in 3 teams ?

    The stormers already have van Aswegen and the Greek . Would Elton then not block the path off another young player coming through the Stormers ranks ?

  • Comment 99, posted at 03.06.12 13:18:32 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 99) :WOW tnx boet , you hav an extremely valid point there , but what more can be done to help the lions . MTN came with a lot of money to offer them . They were on fire during the Currie Cup but then they just dissapeared come SuperRugby. I just feel Elton Jantjies is being wasted at the Lions

  • Comment 100, posted at 03.06.12 13:46:09 by AYA11 Reply

     
  • @AYA11 (Comment 100) :

    well we did have about 13 players injured last night that would have been starting players .

    I also feel that for the first time in years the Lions are hanging on to the players they have. Guys like Taute , Elton , Minnie , Strauss .

    I feel if they Lions can hang onto those players for another season or 2 and dont get dumped out of super rugby (lots off if’s) we might have a chance .

    But clearly thats not going to happen .

    Dont think the MTN deal is worth that much though .. not like a 100 mil deal or something like that

  • Comment 101, posted at 03.06.12 14:11:42 by Zibbie Reply
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  • Baby Bok team announced to play Ireland tomorrow.

    15. Dillyn Leyds (DHL Western Province)
    14. Paul Jordaan (KZN)
    13. Pat Howard (DHL Western Province)
    12. Jan Serfontein (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    11. Raymond Rhule (Toyota Free State)
    10. Tony Jantjies (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    9. Abrie Griesel (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    8. Fabian Booysen (MTN Golden Lions)
    7. Wiaan Liebenberg (c) (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    6. Shaun Adendorff (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    5. Pieter Steph du Toit (KZN)
    4. Paul Willemse (MTN Golden Lions)
    3. Allan Dell (KZN)
    2. Mark Pretorius (MTN Golden Lions)
    1. Steven Kitshoff (DHL Western Province)

    16. Jason Thomas (Vodacom Blue Bulls)
    17. Oliver Kebble (DHL Western Province)
    18. Ruan Botha (MTN Golden Lions)
    19. Braam Steyn (KZN)
    20. Vian van der Watt (MTN Golden Lions)
    21. Handrè Pollard (DHL Western Province)
    22. Tshotsho Mbovane (DHL Western Province)
    23. Maks van Dyk (KZN)

    Courtesy of SuperSport.

  • Comment 102, posted at 03.06.12 15:49:43 by Ben Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 53) : My thoughts exactly, I’m totally blown away by Meyer’s view that you don’t need a fetcher in the 22. And Brussouw isn’t any fetcher either, he is in the top 3-5 in the world in his position. Am actually wondering whehter to go shell out my hard earned cash to watch this live now…

  • Comment 103, posted at 03.06.12 16:02:54 by neilster Reply

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  • @CapeShark (Comment 58) : What is also confusing about the Kanko selection as well is that he thrives in a loose game, one which we know Meyer is not intent on playing.

  • Comment 104, posted at 03.06.12 16:06:35 by neilster Reply

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  • Some good points neilster. Meyer’s selections do seem baffling. Well, quite a few of them… :roll:

  • Comment 105, posted at 03.06.12 18:08:41 by wpw Reply
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  • One thing is clear ( and disappointing ) to me and that is that HM wants to play kick, chase and defend rugby. He actually said something to that effect.

    Way I see it our forwards should be able to dominate basically all opposition teams on any given day.

    Then if you choose:
    9) Hougaardt
    10) Lambie
    11) Mvovo/Habana
    12) Steyn
    13) JDV
    14) JPP
    15) Aplon

    You can run any team rugged with that back line, while you need not forsake the kicking option should it be necessary.

  • Comment 106, posted at 03.06.12 19:50:38 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • I will judge Meyer on the final 22, but I am starting having nightmares about the following possible starting 15 out of that squad:

    Beast
    Chilli
    Werner Kruger
    Van der Merwe
    Juandre Kruger
    Coetzee
    Potgieter
    Spies (C)
    Hougaard
    Steyn
    Habana
    Olivier
    Engelbrecht
    Basson
    Kirchner

  • Comment 107, posted at 03.06.12 21:07:58 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 107) : Hehehehe that can be nightmare stuff for sure…..

  • Comment 108, posted at 03.06.12 22:42:02 by Silver Fox Reply

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  • @robdylan (Comment 90) : PRECISELY!!! look at what Jake White has done with a bunch of “no namers”. TEAM SPIRIT, WORK ETHIC, etc

  • Comment 109, posted at 04.06.12 00:14:44 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Those wanting the Bokke to lose to prove HM wrong, are just wanting to be proved right more that having a successful Bokke team. The “i told you so” attitude is a little immature. How about we at least let HM have one game before we crucify him.

    Go Bokke!

  • Comment 110, posted at 04.06.12 07:47:14 by Just a Fan Reply

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  • Not going to read through all the comments so i might repeat some things but here goes. Mistake to leave out Brussouw, happy with the omission of Aplon and de Jongh however. Wynand Olivier in the squad is always a mystery but hey, at least he didn’t pick Ricky Januarie… Franco VDM’s selection makes sense, he works hard and is as solid a lock as you’ll find and with Bekker out brings some old man mongrel to the pack. If Schalk Burger, Duane Vermuelen, Andries Bekker, Kitshoff and perhaps Nick Koster were all fit, the Stormers contingent would be up to 9, Kolisi is unlucky to have been overlooked, but to be fair Jacques Potgieter is a monster and suits the game Meyer wants…

  • Comment 111, posted at 04.06.12 08:12:30 by The Quirk Reply
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  • Aplon getting old, but Olivier is old and just a year younger than Botes that all say is too old. The same age as Roger Federer

  • Comment 112, posted at 04.06.12 09:53:14 by Stef Reply

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