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Baby boks take the low road after shock loss


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content on 5 Jun 2012 at 08:32
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SA Under 20 coach Dawie Theron has shown us that while he may change his personnel on an alarmingly frequent basis, his approach to the game is something that does not change; this was frighteningly obvious as the fancied Baby Boks went down in the IRB Junior World Championship opener to Ireland in Stellenbosch last night.

The relatively untested SA Under 20 combination attempted to play a territory-based game against the Irish- who looked far more cohesive and frankly better-coached – but were let down by inaccuracy amongst the forwards and some shocking tactical kicking and first-time tackling from the backs. Despite a late fightback that saw monster lock Paul Willemse barge over for a try, the Irish beat South Africa 23-19, leaving the hosts reeling in terms of progressing to the competition’s semi-finals.

Stand-out performances on the night belonged solely to men in white jerseys, with the committed and cohesive forwards effort delivered by the young Irish making the Boks look like not much more than a ragtag bunch of individuals who have spent too long believing their own hype. Certainly, the likes of Steven Kitshoff and Pieter-Steph du Toit seemed to think that playing at this level would be easy after the rigours of Super Rugby – boy were they ever wrong as the Irish gleefully took the opportunity to tarnish a few big reputations.

The only player in green, in fact, who stood out on the night was former Glenwood flanker Shaun Adendorff. This youngster, alas now with the Bulls, played a storming innings in the number 6 jersey. It’s such a pity that none of his team-mates were even in the same library, much less on a similar page.

The Baby Boks face Italy on Friday and will need a huge win there, coupled with an empathic win against England a few days later to stand any chance of progressing in the competition that coach Theron assured us all they would win.

South Africa 19 (3) – Try: Paul Willemse. Conversion: Tony Jantjies. Penalties: Jantjies (4).

Ireland 23 (13) – Tries: Jordon Coglan, Conor Gilsenan. Conversions: JJ Hanrahan (2). Penalties: Hanrahan (2). Drop goal: Hanrahan.



22 Comments

  • I think our “Bully” style of rugby was out-bullied by the Irish.

    Every team in the world knows, if you want to beat South Africa – match their physicality!

    The Irish weren’t afraid of our big forwards, and our big forwards could not get over their over inflated egos, and wouldn’t acknowledge that one Boertjie is not strong enough to run over two or three Irish.

    A group of individuals tried to beat a team, and LOST.

  • Comment 1, posted at 05.06.12 08:46:18 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 1) : Agreed although two charged down tries are the two halfbacks that couldnt clear quick enough, or shouldnt have kicked in the fisrt place.

  • Comment 2, posted at 05.06.12 08:56:52 by Quintin Reply
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  • @Quintin (Comment 2) : Tony Jantjies kicked for the 2nd charge down try.

  • Comment 3, posted at 05.06.12 09:04:59 by Ben Reply
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  • “It’s such a pity that none of his team-mates were even in the same library, much less on a similar page.”

    :lol: That’s a good one! :lol:

  • Comment 4, posted at 05.06.12 09:05:56 by Ben Reply
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  • It was pathetic to say the least!

    I’m very disappointed.

    The Irish were disappointing too. They were so dominant and only won by 4. If I was the Irish coach I’d be furious!

  • Comment 5, posted at 05.06.12 09:08:36 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 5) : It felt like watching the Sharks against the Lions all over again. :cry:

  • Comment 6, posted at 05.06.12 09:18:47 by rhineshark Reply

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  • @rhineshark (Comment 6) :

    So true! :sad:

  • Comment 7, posted at 05.06.12 09:20:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Ben (Comment 3) : Thanks dont know why I thought both charge downs where the halfbacks.

  • Comment 8, posted at 05.06.12 09:34:29 by Quintin Reply

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  • @Quintin (Comment 8) : there were 4 charge downs in all

    2 by griesel
    1 by Jantjies
    1 by the reserve scrummy

  • Comment 9, posted at 05.06.12 09:57:32 by sharks_lover Reply

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  • In my opinion it’s become clear that Dawie Theron is not suited to a national setup where he’s only given limited time with a squad of ever changing players.

    If he coached players he knew well, week in and week out it may have been a different story?

  • Comment 10, posted at 05.06.12 10:47:17 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 10) :
    Theron hasn’t produced the goods. Like most SA coaches, just not good enough.

    The match just goes to show yet again, why schoolboy hype needs to be toned down.

  • Comment 11, posted at 05.06.12 11:35:28 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : Agree with both statements but Theron did achieve quite a bit with the Griquas and I think that’s the kind of setup his coaching is best suited to. I suspect he currently finds himself in an environment far too dynamic for his liking.

  • Comment 12, posted at 05.06.12 13:14:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Very important game on Friday.

    If we can beat Italy comfortably (followed by a win over England), then we’re still in a good position to make the semi-finals, looking at the pools.

    Main competitors for a spot looks to be Wales, or Ireland pounding on the points against Italy & pushing us into 3rd if they lost to England.

  • Comment 13, posted at 05.06.12 18:03:24 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @sharks_lover (Comment 9) :

    Pretty sure there were a few more then that…

  • Comment 14, posted at 05.06.12 18:04:28 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Wouldn’t mind seeing Pieter Steph du Toit used on the blindside rather. Line-out needs the help and definitely need a bit more grunt heading into rucks.

  • Comment 15, posted at 05.06.12 18:07:25 by hendrikp Reply

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  • @hendrikp (Comment 15) : I agree and we also need to rid ourselves of these primary school tactics ,such as the nudge back for the box kick ,at one stage we had between 6 and 8 players involved AND then kicked straight down the throat of Irish, STUPID.

    They should play Howard at 12 and Jordaan at 13, Serfontein was dissapointing. Our forwards had no clue in line-outs and scrums, they were useless in the loose. At least at scrum time they had the physical superiority unfortunately they weren’t accurate.

    I think they need to reconsider hooker ,6-8 ,9 ,12-13-14 and surely there is a better fullback?

  • Comment 16, posted at 05.06.12 21:48:03 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 16) : Timo Swiel perhaps? http://www.greenandgoldrugby.co.za/timo-swiel-present-stormer-future-bok/

    (Courtesy of Gaz77)

  • Comment 17, posted at 05.06.12 21:57:26 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 16) :

    I think Marais Schmidt was meant to start but is struggling with an ankle injury. Agree re Howard and Serfontein, havent seen a lot of them but looks more like Howard is a better bosher and Serfontein would be better in space either as a 13 or wing.
    Rhule was poor under the highball so would imagine he will replaced also perhaps.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.06.12 22:02:23 by Pat Reply

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  • @vanmartin (Comment 17) :

    Injured.

    @Talent (Comment 16) :

    Not sure changing up the whole team is the answer. If anything I’d say they’d be best off trying to change the teams personality. Need a few guys who will put their foot down and lead the team. Definitely a lack of leadership out there against the Irish.

    Mark Pretorius, Fabian Booysen, Abrie Griesel, Tony Jantjies, Raymond Rhule & Paul Jordaan are the ones I thought had shockers.

    In saying that, Griesel was quick getting the ball out and so forth, but there was NO direction at all. If all you needed to do was run to a ruck, pass the ball and get kicks charged down, I could’ve been playing!

    And Tony Jantjies did kick well at goal, yes, which might well save his behind considering Handre Pollard is a 94-baby, but his play elsewhere was terrible.

    Pretorius needs to take some of the blame for the line-outs. Not good at all, and can only hope that Jason Thomas adds a bit more around the field then he does also.

    I’d be willing to give Paul Jordaan the benefit of the doubt, but he needs to get his backside into gear and actually put some effort into getting back when the opposition kicks to offer support runners and so forth. Otherwise, he shouldn’t be facing England, who would make him look even worse.

    And with Booysen & Rhule, I don’t even want to talk about it. How they made the team, I really don’t understand.

  • Comment 19, posted at 06.06.12 03:08:45 by hendrikp Reply

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  • Yeah think Steph at blinside is an idea,we need a lineout tactician at 5 which is Ruan Botha,Steph and Willemse aren’t that great at lineout time,get someone else at 8thman as well,Braam Steyn who could be a lineout option at 197cm. Had good chuckle the other night when someone said that the props were tired from just lifting the 130 kg Willemse at the lineout

  • Comment 20, posted at 06.06.12 10:57:47 by Ludz Reply

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  • 12.Howards 13.Jordaan imo or 12.Jordaan 13.Howard.

    They looked poorly drilled if im honest. The loose forwards had no influence on the game ,none. The tight 5 were pathetic and the stuff ups of certain individuals hindered what should have been a dominant performance by them.
    The less said about the tactical kicking the better.

    Agreed with above ,Ruan Botha & Willemse lock paring and Du Toit at 7 .

  • Comment 21, posted at 06.06.12 11:24:55 by Talent Reply
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  • You can suggest all the changes you want but it won’t change the fact that the U20′s are not a well coached side.

    The coaching team needs to shoulder the blame here.

  • Comment 22, posted at 06.06.12 12:16:16 by wpw Reply
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