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The Poms are here


Written by Pierre McLeod (pierre_mackie)

Posted in :Original Content, Reader Submissions, Springboks on 8 Jun 2012 at 08:02
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As the international rugby season is about to kick off in South Africa, let’s have a look at the Boks vs the Poms.

With test matches between these two proud rugby playing countries dating back to 1906, where it all started in a 3-all draw, they’ve since played 31 tests with South Africa victorious in 19 and England not far behind on 12. South Africa has also scored 661 points and England 491, not bad if you take in account England is the country that introduced rugby to South Africa.

With test matches not being played as frequently as they are these days, England had to wait till 1969 to beat South Africa, with the Boks beating England in one-off tests in 1913, 1932, 1951 and 1962. South Africa then held the upper hand in the majority of the tests up until 2000, when England dominated until 2006 including that humiliating defeat in 2002 at Twickenham 53-3. Since then its been the Springboks all the way, hammering the Poms in Bloem 58-10 and 55-22 in Pretoria in 2007 and in the same year we also stunned them at the World Cup beating them 36-0 and also beating them 15-6 in the final to lift the Webb Ellis Trophy in France.

Since the World Cup we’ve given them a beating in front of their home crowd 42-6 in 2008 and again in 2010 21-11.

The three home test matches will be played at Mr Price Kings Park, a first for South Africa to play England at this venue, Coca Cola Park (where the Springboks lost in 1972 by 9-18 and won in 1984 by 35-9) and the final test will be at the Nelson Mandela Bay Stadium in PE where the Springboks last played England in 1984 at Boet Erasmus winning that game 33-15.

South Africa’s overall win ratio against England is 60.93%.

In more then one way it’s also a new “season” for Springbok rugby with a new coach in Heyneke Meyer, a couple of new caps as well as a new captain in Jean De Villiers.

I think enough has been said about the team selected for the first test.

The teams:

South Africa: 15 Zane Kirchner, 14 JP Pietersen, 13 Jean de Villiers, 12 Frans Steyn, 11 Bryan Habana, 10 Morné Steyn, 9 François Hougaard, 8 Pierre Spies, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marcell Coetzee, 5 Juandré Kruger, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Jannie du Plessis, 2 Bismarck du Plessis, 1 Tendai Mtawarira.
Replacements: 16 Adriaan Strauss, 17 Coenie Oosthuizen, 18 Flip van der Merwe, 19 Keegan Daniel, 20 Ruan Pienaar, 21 Patrick Lambie, 22 Wynand Olivier.

England: 15 Mike Brown, 14 Chris Ashton, 13 Manusamoa Tuilagi, 12 Brad Barritt, 11 Ben Foden, 10 Owen Farrell, 9 Ben Youngs, 8 Ben Morgan, 7 Chris Robshaw (capt), 6 Tom Johnson, 5 Geoff Parling, 4 Mouritz Botha, 3 Dan Cole, 2 Dylan Hartley, 1 Joe Marler.
Replacements: 16 Lee Mears, 17 Paul Doran-Jones, 18 Tom Palmer, 19 Phil Dowson, 20 Lee Dickson, 21 Toby Flood, 22 Jonathan Joseph.

Date: Saturday, June 9
Kick-off: 17:00
Venue: Kings Park, Durban
Referee: Steve Walsh (Australia)
Assistant refeerees: Alain Rolland (Ireland), Simon McDowell (Scotland)

Television match official: Iain Ramage (Scotland

My thoughts for what it’s worth: Meyer will go with the old “stamp kar” approach and Morne putting up the old Garryowen with Habana chasing (I hope I’m wrong).

These comments from Richardo Loubscher : “Zane and Patrick Lambie are two different kinds of players and the selection might be directed around what the one gives ahead of the other for the specific challenge we face in this game.

“We have to select a 22 first, and then a starting team. Zane is strong under the high ball, he has a very good kicking game. Lambie brings something different. He brings a bit of X-factor. It depends on what we need on the day”,

That tells me they just want someone at the back catching the ball and putting it up in the air as quick as possible (I hope I’m wrong again).

The battle I’m most eager to see is the one in the midfield, in particular Frans Steyn vs Bradley Barritt.



18 Comments

  • Lambie is very safe under the high ball and if you tell him to he can kick the up and under just as good as the next guy, but if you have him in the team you also have a guy that can make some space for his wings by joining the line.

    I would have much preferred if Loubcher’s answer was something along the lines of – We believe Lambie’s best position is 10, this is also where he has played for most of this season and we have therefore selected him mainly as a flyhalf. He will therefore provide cover from the bench for Morne, but we also know he can cover the back if needed which was also something we considered when we picking our bench. He’s a very talented player and hopefully we’ll be able to give him a few good opportunities to further grow as a Test player.

  • Comment 1, posted at 08.06.12 08:34:32 by Letgo Reply
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  • The only reason I would have selected Zane or any other 15 over Lambie for this first test would be because he didn’t really play there this season, I’m sure he would have done a great job there anyway, as he did during the world cup, but I don’t think players should be selected out of position for Test teams, not even JDV’s selection at 13 is a very smart one. Has he ever played in this position, because it’s not the same as playing 12 … it is much much different – IMO.

    But then who else would we have selected at 13 JJ? He’s the only 13 selected and even he doesn’t play there all the time.

  • Comment 2, posted at 08.06.12 08:40:26 by Letgo Reply
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  • i’m sitting here waiting for the first game to begin this morning and after about 20min i realise there is no super on this weekend, leka daft

  • Comment 3, posted at 08.06.12 08:43:36 by MJ Reply

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  • I’m looking forward to this! Just because I don’t know what to expect!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 08.06.12 08:45:24 by Ice Reply
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  • @MJ (Comment 3) : :lol: , I record the games to my PVR, and last night I spend about 5min trying to find the first game today and then I even went to check the fixtures online. And then I realised I won’t be tortured by another Sharks game for 4 weeks. I was relieved.

    Sprinbok rugby is much more fun for me. It’s three games then it’s over and I don’t care as much about the result as I do with the Sharks. I can’t stop myself from being completely depressed when the Sharks lose – not so with the Boks. It’s disappointing, but it doesn’t bother me as much.

  • Comment 5, posted at 08.06.12 08:48:08 by Letgo Reply
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  • Frans Steyn vs Bradley Barritt, wow I never actually through of that one. That’s going to be very interesting to see. Especially considering the History they both had at the Sharks, and for them to come to the tank and play each other here is just something else.. Good luck to both ;)

  • Comment 6, posted at 08.06.12 08:52:16 by Uli Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 5) : That makes two of us… I for one, are still hurting from the CC final last year.

  • Comment 7, posted at 08.06.12 08:54:05 by Uli Reply
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  • I don’t understand JdV at 13 either. I know Frans has played 13 in 3 tests already and for Racing Metro of quite a few occasions.

    Well at least the ball will be spread past 12 a couple of times. :roll:

  • Comment 8, posted at 08.06.12 08:57:50 by Pokkel Reply
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  • I think Robdylan is gonna struggle with his emotions tomorrow…his lovechild against his beloved Bokke…

  • Comment 9, posted at 08.06.12 10:12:10 by Ice Reply
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  • jy slaan die spyker op die kop pierre dink jy moet die replacement wees vir mark keohane.bokke sal wen,hoop beast stoot hulle dat hulle ore bloei!

  • Comment 10, posted at 08.06.12 10:14:10 by loftus1 Reply

     
  • @Ice (Comment 9) : haha true

  • Comment 11, posted at 08.06.12 10:58:47 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 7) : Agreed. The Bokke just isn`t as important to me in a non world cup year.

    What I`m curious to see is if the sharks bokke will actually put their bodies on the line tomorrow, cause they sure didn`t last week.

  • Comment 12, posted at 08.06.12 11:34:08 by Original Pierre Reply
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  • @Original Pierre (Comment 12) : Reminding me of last saterday makes me sad :( lol

  • Comment 13, posted at 08.06.12 12:03:04 by Uli Reply
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  • Lambie is better than Kirchner

  • Comment 14, posted at 08.06.12 12:14:49 by lynessd Reply

     
  • wondering if all 3 debutantes will fire at the same time ..

  • Comment 15, posted at 08.06.12 12:47:03 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 13) :

    strange … i dont feel the same :P :mrgreen:

  • Comment 16, posted at 08.06.12 12:47:47 by Zibbie Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 16) : hehe, vsek jou lelike ding :mrgreen:

  • Comment 17, posted at 08.06.12 16:21:18 by Uli Reply
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  • @Zibbie (Comment 16) : Ouch! :sad:

  • Comment 18, posted at 08.06.12 18:22:51 by Original Pierre Reply
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