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South Africa v England: First test by the numbers


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Springboks on 12 Jun 2012 at 09:00
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Let’s have a look at the player statistics from the first test against England, courtesy of our friends over at Verusco.

South Africa shaded the possession stakes overall, controlling the ball for 43 minutes against 37. Crucuailly, in those periods, the English were asked to make considerably more tackles (199 v 152), with both sides recording roughly equivalent success rates (England 87%, SA 86%). The Boks were slightly better in the error department, with 17 handling errors and 10 penalties better than the 23 and 13 that their visitors dished up. The Boks lost 3 of their own line outs, though, which is never good, while the English lost the ball 4 times on their own scrum put-in.

Willem Alberts made the most tackles over-all (14 from 17 attempts) with Jannie du Plessis (13 from 13) and Juandre Kruger (13 from 15) not far behind. Having missed none, though, it’s the big doctor who deserves the plaudits for best defence overall, with Morne Steyn (6 from 6) and Zane Kirchner (2 from 2) the only other members of the starting line up to return a 100% record. Pat Lambie (3 from 3) and Coenie Oosthuizen (2 from 2) managed the same. The best tackler in the back line, though, was Frans Steyn, with 11 tackles from 12 attempts.

Alberts, with his 3 misses, unfortunately also tops that stat, although you have to be trying to make tackles in order to miss them; the “where the hell were you?” award must go to Pierre Spies, who made only 4 tackles from 5 attempts in 80 minutes! Three players missed 2 tackles each – Ruan Pienaar, Juandre Kruger and Francois Hougaard – with everyone else who has yet to be mentioned missing 1.

Alberts and Morne Steyn were joint first in terms of metres gained, with 86 each, while Bryan Habana came on just behind them on 81m. Captain Jean de Villiers made the most line breaks (3) followed by Habana with 2. Alberts, Jannie du Plessis, Hougaard and JP Pietersen each made 1 line break. Frans Steyn was the main man when it came to offloads (5), with Alberts and Marcell Coetzee some way back on 2 apiece. Frans Steyn made the most passes outside of the halfbacks (10) with Coetzee (who allegedly doesn’t pass) just behind on 8.

Juande Kruger hit the most rucks (24), followed by Spies (23) – so that’s what he was doing all day! – and Alberts and Coetzee (22 each). Plaudits must go to Pat Lambie, who hit 10 rucks in just 40 minutes, more than any other backline player managed on the day.

Penalties were reasonably evenly spread, with no player guilty of more than 1 transgression. Alberts is credited (or is that debited) with losing possession 3 times, ahead of the 2 attributed to both Bismarck du Plessis and Pietersen. That figure, unfortunately, sees the big Sharks flanker top the combined error score with 6 (3 lost possession, 3 missed tackles).

In something of a first for us, though, we’re giving the same player (Willem Alberts) the Most Valuable Player award, based on his name featuring prominently in virtually every category. Well done, Big Vic!



43 Comments

  • “Plaudits must go to Pat Lambie, who hit 10 rucks in just 40 minutes, more than any other backline player managed on the day.”

    All good and well, but what would have happened if England managed to get turn overs, when he was in the rucks? He would have been way out of position.

    Edit: That said , he was pretty enthusiastic on the field and tried hard where he could on the field.

  • Comment 1, posted at 12.06.12 09:18:22 by Uli Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 1) :

    And he’s a pretty useful scrumhalf too. He seems to have a quick accurate pass from the base of the scrum.

    disclaimer….I am by no means suggesting that he be utilised as a scrumhalf, it was just an observation.

  • Comment 2, posted at 12.06.12 09:25:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • Marcel needs to dye his hair blond. Other stats sites credited Spies with most of his tackles

  • Comment 3, posted at 12.06.12 09:30:46 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 3) :

    Jup…even the commentators regularly mixed them up.

    May he should where a bright red scrumcap.

  • Comment 4, posted at 12.06.12 09:34:07 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 3) : No. Pierre Spies should dye his hair blonde. He’s waaaaay softer than Marcell, so if anyone has to go over to the metrosexual side it should be Spies. Plus, he has a provincial team mate who can keep him up to date on developments in the hair- and face products world. :mrgreen:

  • Comment 5, posted at 12.06.12 09:36:06 by Culling Song Reply
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  • I’ll take the numbers with a pinch af salt as I know Krusty did miss tackle(s)…

  • Comment 6, posted at 12.06.12 09:48:13 by Franshark Reply
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  • Am I missing Marcell’s tackle count here, or can’t I read?

  • Comment 7, posted at 12.06.12 09:57:01 by Ice Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 5) : are you suggesting that Spies should be Timotei part deux? :lol:

  • Comment 8, posted at 12.06.12 09:58:06 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 7) : 10 out of 11

  • Comment 9, posted at 12.06.12 10:00:00 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • :evil: @Megatron (Comment 8) : Well, if he was carefully coiffed and manicured and dressed in some hot pants with no shirt, Pierre wouldn’t look out of place in the gay gallery at a rave…

  • Comment 10, posted at 12.06.12 10:08:29 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Don Roberto, looking at Fransie’s stats, you maybe wanna re-evaluate your assessments of the centres on the day?

    @Culling Song (Comment 10) :
    “Pierre wouldn’t look out of place in the gay gallery at a rave”

    And you know this how? :shock:

  • Comment 11, posted at 12.06.12 10:18:16 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : Chalk it up to my checkered past, and leave it at that. Move along people, there’s nothing to see here… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 12, posted at 12.06.12 10:22:55 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Culling Song (Comment 12) : gawd, now I have this “image” in my mind..cS in a luminous pink sjoe-broekie, richelieu-behaarde-beentjies, Mcenroe headband and two flashing fluorescent sticks in the hands… :lol:

  • Comment 13, posted at 12.06.12 10:33:31 by Ice Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : stats can be misleading, one of the “offloads” by francois was him chucking the ball at jpp close to our 22 when an english bloke had him wrapped up, a passage of play which resulted in nothing…

    but hey frans led in “offloads”

  • Comment 14, posted at 12.06.12 10:36:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 14) : the interference by the tackler on the ball, made that offload into nothing..and I am nogals sure that one is not counted in the stats, so your point in this statement?

    Just as 3 lineouts we missed – 1 missed and 2 were because of a scew through and the other one because it was not 5 meters. So you are right – stats can be misleading.

  • Comment 15, posted at 12.06.12 10:41:42 by Ice Reply
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  • @Uli (Comment 1) : that’s just stupid. The first player to the breakdown needs to get in and secure the ball, whether that player is a back or a forward.

    Implying that Lambie mindlessly charges into rucks in preference to doing other, more suitable things on the field, is ridiculous.

  • Comment 16, posted at 12.06.12 10:41:57 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 11) : no, I don’t. We all know that the player ratings are subjective and are intentionally done without the benefit of stats.

    If anything, the guy who was most hard-done-by there was Jannie du Plessis.

  • Comment 17, posted at 12.06.12 10:43:56 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 7) : we only single out the top 3 tacklers, Ice. I know it’s hard to fathom, but Marcell wasn’t one of them this week.

    Try watching the other 14 blokes on Saturday too… you might see some good play :)

  • Comment 18, posted at 12.06.12 10:45:42 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 15) : no sweety, there was no “interference by the tackler” as you suggest!

    ” I am nogals sure that one is not counted in the stats “ :lol: really? how are can you be so “sure”? :roll:

  • Comment 19, posted at 12.06.12 10:48:21 by Megatron Reply

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  • Oy! We have kwaai Rob today. :lol:

    Kicking ass and taking names!

  • Comment 20, posted at 12.06.12 10:51:14 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 12.06.12 10:52:22 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Uli (Comment 1) :

    Dude, its about time you get with the programme! :roll:

    This IS a Sharks site aimed at supporters of the SAAARRRKKKS (as Ashwin calls them) :mrgreen:

    One of the rules is that you are NOT allowed to criticize 3D Pat aka SuperPAT or Marcell ‘cauliflower ears’ Coetzee.

    Failure to do so will result in a rather unpleasant experience with either one of two of Sharksworld’s elderly ladies whom shall not be named at this time.

    For further queries regarding the above please contact me on wpw@sharksworld.co.za ;-)

    Yours truly
    WPW (Senior Boardmember)

  • Comment 22, posted at 12.06.12 11:05:58 by wpw Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 18) : hey – I just wanted to know, u know I have a keen interest in him. But I will know now that u only single out the best 3 in each category! Geez sorry for asking!

  • Comment 23, posted at 12.06.12 11:06:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 22) : If – had a boepens the size of a wynvat, I’d hardly be calling other people names…

  • Comment 24, posted at 12.06.12 11:12:22 by Ice Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 19) : it was unsuccesful, why would they count it.

    Go check the game again, the guy tackled Steyn in such a manner that the ball reflected against his hand when he tries to offload – that’s what I meant with interference.

    Talking about checking the game again – did anyone else noticed Bis being “out” on his feet round about the 30th minute?

  • Comment 25, posted at 12.06.12 11:17:24 by Ice Reply
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  • thought Marcel was massive this past weekend ,the best of the three debutants.

    Something that worried me was how much better England looked with ball in hand than we did. I can remember one incident where we had a several player overlap and steyn played a flat ball ,that should have gone behind the player and simple hands would have put us down for a try.

    I’m not convinced by our locks ,granted both are debutants but they just didn’t look the part. They just don’t posses the grunt that bakkies ,rossouw or even flip have. As poor as the baby boks have been I think all three of those locks may become senior boks in time to come ,with some nurture of course

    .

  • Comment 26, posted at 12.06.12 11:18:22 by Talent Reply
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  • hahahahaha yoh, things are hotting up in HERE :mrgreen:

  • Comment 27, posted at 12.06.12 11:19:18 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 13) : Now that is a truly horrific image! :oops:

  • Comment 28, posted at 12.06.12 11:23:36 by Culling Song Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 25) : i don’t know what you’re on about, the ball i’m referring to jp caught and tried to run but we didn’t make any metres. it was a succesful offload but it’s not like steyn was putting a guy running on his shoulder into space with a deft sbw-like offload which was my initial point!

    i think the stats show that frans made one “playmaker pass”

  • Comment 29, posted at 12.06.12 11:25:38 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) : stop flirting :lol:

  • Comment 30, posted at 12.06.12 11:25:56 by Talent Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 26) :

    Who do you suggest to replace our two starting locks??

    Flip the walking yellow card??

    Franco VD Merwe??

  • Comment 31, posted at 12.06.12 11:33:33 by wpw Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 27) : ja, well, Bokhoring made a comment about Marcell’s stats, and I could not find it in the article…so the natural thing would be to ask…apparently not here.. :twisted:

    I have been commenting about “the other 14″ players the whole week, but one question about a player everyone knows I adore…and all hell breaks lose! :twisted:

  • Comment 32, posted at 12.06.12 11:35:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Talent (Comment 26) : Kruger got through a lot of work – tackles, ruck, support. Etzebeth is a rookie – probably a bit overawed – will also get better. I would keep the combo as is

  • Comment 33, posted at 12.06.12 11:41:09 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 32) : geen probleme…you’re at liberty to ask about any player Ice. :grin:

  • Comment 34, posted at 12.06.12 11:42:11 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Talent (Comment 26) :

    The locks were fine and with some time together will become great!

    They’re the least of the Bok’s worries.

  • Comment 35, posted at 12.06.12 11:43:04 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 29) : ok! Wires crossed..I am talking about a complete different incident..apologies!

  • Comment 36, posted at 12.06.12 11:50:37 by Ice Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 16) : Rob, it was more of a observation that anything else ;-)

    @wpw (Comment 22) : looool

  • Comment 37, posted at 12.06.12 12:18:40 by Uli Reply
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  • @wpw (Comment 31) : @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : @Pokkel (Comment 35) : I know I’m going to get slated for saying this but I’m not convinced by Etzebeth just yet as an enforcer, he has huge potential, not sure he is a springbok just yet though. Kruger is, in my mind, just there because of his lineout management skills, as is Spies. I think the backrow needs some added bulk and a player like Bakkies could still add huge value to the team in experience and will add a hard edge.

    I would keep Etzebeth as a jumper, have him work alongside the best in the world (Matfield)to improve this aspect of his game and in a year or even two install him as our primary line out king pin.

    There are some big solid units coming through the ranks –Hattingh (spelling) Willemse etc that are inexperienced but could become a similar type player to Bakkies.

    With the injuries we have and non-availabilities of some senior players this is the best lock options we have, my only concern is we are rushing Etzebeth into a role he may not be ready for.

  • Comment 38, posted at 12.06.12 12:27:40 by Talent Reply
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  • Time will tell and I may be singing a different tune at the end of these series.

  • Comment 39, posted at 12.06.12 12:31:08 by Talent Reply
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  • @Big Fish (Comment 20) : He is touchy these days. I think he actually supports England these days. Time to out yourself Rob.

  • Comment 40, posted at 12.06.12 13:08:32 by Salmonoid Reply

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  • Will the Jannie that played on Saturday be joining the Sharks again? He really stepped up for this match!

    Encouraging stats in all the positions (even flyhalf – let’s give credit where it’s due) except for 8! Spies really needs to shape up or ship out. As Talent mentioned – he’s a good lineout option but not much else at the moment.

  • Comment 41, posted at 12.06.12 13:39:12 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 40) : haha yea lol

  • Comment 42, posted at 12.06.12 13:45:05 by Uli Reply
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  • @Salmonoid (Comment 40) : LOL.

    Sorry guys… tough morning at work!

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