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Sharks player ratings v Cheetahs


Written by Rob Otto (robdylan)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 16 Jul 2012 at 08:00
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The Sharks did it again on Saturday, with a lacklustre first half display giving way to some breathtaking moments in the second which led to a bonus-point win over the Cheetahs. Let’s see how the boys did.

1) Dale Chadwick. On a bit of a hiding to nothing, as he was summoned straight into the starting lineup at the eleventh hour after playing only club rugby for the last few months. Not his best game, but the rust is understandable. 5/10
2) Craig Burden. Alas, also showed how debilitating it can be to sit on the bench week after week as he lacked a bit of intensity and (dare I say?) match fitness. Bismarck added a whole new dimension when he came on. 5/10
3) Jannie du Plessis. A reasonable game at tight head, but was part of a Sharks scrum that creaked in the first half and damn near collapsed in the second, while he was played out of position at loose head. Not his fault, but wasn’t great. 6/10
4) Anton Bresler. A pretty good game under the circumstances and was one of the few to look decent in the first half. Took some good lineout ball at 2 and was active and effective on defence, as always. 7/10
5) Pieter-Steph du Toit. Played like a man who had been rushed back from injury. Shouldn’t have been there and committed a fair few basic errors before being yanked off injured after just half an hour. We’re expecting a big Currie Cup from the lad. 4/10
6) Keegan Daniel. The captain played a superb innings and had a hand in just about everything that went right for the Sharks. My best forward of the match. 8/10
7) Marcell Coetzee. Busy as always, with lots of important tackles and a lovely maiden try to boot. What a player, what a season! 7/10
8) Ryan Kankowski. Another solid performance and simply a cut above what we’ve seen from Kanko in the last year or so. Wasn’t quite up to the standard he set last week against the Bulls but was still pretty useful. 7/10

9) Charl McLeod. Quality of service was a real issue, with many passes not going anywhere near the intended recipients. Scored a nice try, though, but needs to find the form he showed against the Bulls – and fast. 6/10
10) Fred Michalak. Another superb, confident and assured showing from a man who’s in the form of his life. 8/10
11) Lwazi Mvovo. Lots of mistakes out there – looks like he’s getting a little frustrated that hte ball isn’t going his way at the moment. Lwazi is a far better player than what we saw on Saturday. 5/10
12) Frans Steyn. A real mixed bag, as we’ve come to expect from Fransie. Added superb presence to the midfield, both on attack and defence and more than once rescued a bad ball situation through nothing other than strength on his feet. The yellow card was abysmal, though and cost him a point. 6/10
13) Tim Whitehead. Didn’t always have a huge amount to do, but looked composed and “switched on” whenever he was asked to contribute. Great defence and some lovely touches on attack. 7/10
14) JP Pietersen. Another stellar all-round performance from the birthday boy. Well done sir – best player on the pitch. 8/10
15) Pat Lambie. Another who looked to have been rushed back from injury. Pat was pretty good at fullback, without being great, yet unfortunately went off injured at half time. 7/10

16) Bismarck du Plessis. He’s Bismarck. That’s all you need to say. Simply a cut above any other hooker in the country. 8/10
17) Wiehahn Herbst. Looked good – with some great hits and a lovely pop to set up Daniel for the opening try. 7/10
18) Jandre Marais. Great intensity and commitment from a very underrated player. 7/10
19) Willem Alberts. Together with Bismarck, he turned around a stuttering forward effort. This man, when on song, is worth his weight in gold. And that’s a LOT of gold! 8/10
20) Jacques Botes. Not on long enough to rate.
21) Paul Jordaan. Not on long enough to rate.
22) Louis Ludik. Showed in just 40 minutes that he’s the Sharks’ best fullback, bar none. 8/10



36 Comments

  • I wish/hope/pray Lambie will only be used as FH from here on forward or, somebody (Ruan Pienaar ;-) )will give him some sound advice in not being willing to play “ANY” position on the field.

  • Comment 1, posted at 16.07.12 08:11:33 by FireTheLooser Reply
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  • Bismarck needs to survive the entire playoffs otherwise the Sharks are in pretty deep trouble. Craig really need to work on his line-outs.

    The Sharks were owned at the breakdown by Brussouw – they will need to step it up as they play another breakdown burglar in Liam Gill. I actually wonder what would have happened had Brussouw not cried off injured.

  • Comment 2, posted at 16.07.12 08:12:23 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 2) : I’m trying hard not to think about that!

  • Comment 3, posted at 16.07.12 08:21:13 by robdylan Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 2) : The Sharks really need to learn how to isolate these play makers (ie. Brussouw)and nullify their threat – Brussouw single handedly slaughtered the Sharks.

    Surely they need to target these individuals and disrupt them as far as possible.

    With Cooper (if he plays) they just need to get under his skin, he’ll lose his temper and get carded. :twisted:

  • Comment 4, posted at 16.07.12 08:22:55 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Fair ratings. I need to say that the turn around half-time was great.

    Actually thought Dale did much better than Jannie @ 1..he did not even bind nor gave it a good effort to try and bind. I was gobsmacked!

    Congrats to Marcell on that maiden try!

    Boys seems to be in good spirits yesterday – let’s hope that festive, positive attitudes rolls over in the game against the Reds!

  • Comment 5, posted at 16.07.12 08:42:18 by Ice Reply
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  • Man, how good is JPP!!??

  • Comment 6, posted at 16.07.12 08:57:47 by Culling Song Reply
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  • Just a few simple insights from the touchline on Saturday. In the 1st half the Sharks played at a pedestrian pace (possibly as a result of a few injured guys starting together with guys that lack any real game time.) Thepace at which the Sharks played in the 1st half suited the Cheetahs and to be fair to them they probably played sum of their best rugby of the year in that 1st half. However, in the 2nd half the Sharks (fuelled by match fit players) upped the pace of the game to Super rugby level and the Cheetahs just couldnt keep up. If the Sharks play a fast paced game and reduce their errors they are a very difficult team to play. However as the 1st half showed, if they play at pedestrian pace they look very beatable.

  • Comment 7, posted at 16.07.12 09:08:07 by SheldonK Reply

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  • From FoxSPorts.com – “Former France fly half Frederic Michalak has shown solid form at No.10 but the Sharks have looked at their best when Lambie was pulling the strings”

    - unfortunately now injured but Plum is fooling himself if he thinks Michalak is the better 10

  • Comment 8, posted at 16.07.12 09:13:33 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • Due to the bad first half by the Sharks (and face it, there was no support at the breakdowns) I am gonna go out in a limb here and claim that if we played like against the Bulls, Heinrich would have been nowhere as effective as he was on Saturday..

  • Comment 9, posted at 16.07.12 09:23:02 by Ice Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 8) : Well, I agree with that statement 100%.

    It’s sad that Pat hasn’t been used at 10 since the Force game. It’s no wonder his form is dipping. When used at fullback, he needs to be used as a link as much as possible and the Sharks just aren’t doing that.

    It’s also sad that Plum decided to pull him into the starting 15 at fullback to replace one of our most committed players. Ludik has done nothing wrong at the back and should not have been replaced by a half healed Lambie. Now we won’t have Lambie for the next game and who even knows if there will be a next after that if he can even play.

  • Comment 10, posted at 16.07.12 09:24:25 by Letgo Reply
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  • Brussouw got away with a lot, but that’s what makes him a great ball hunter just like the rest of them, he knows to push to see how far the ref will let him go. He ripped the ball from players’ hands on the ground in the tackle a few times, and Pyper certainly did not apply the release tackler law as strict as we’ve seen it being applied this year. Even that rip of Frans Steyn, to set up the Kanko try, would have been blown up by othe refs. He was very lenient and that’s why Brussow was so effective in this game.

  • Comment 11, posted at 16.07.12 09:28:10 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 9) : The Sharks managed to neutralize Brussouw in the previous Cheetahs game in Bloem. It seemed after the Bulls effort, the commitment was just lacking this week.

    @Letgo (Comment 11) : Did Frans not rip the ball from a player on his feet – that is entirely legal?

  • Comment 12, posted at 16.07.12 09:39:51 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 10) :
    Mate I fully agree…Like u said Ludik has not had 1 bad game at FB this season but always gets dropped..yeah I agree Lambie is the better talent but Lambie tops Michalak any day.
    - dont even get me started on playing ‘injury cloud’ players

  • Comment 13, posted at 16.07.12 09:40:38 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 12) : Maybe that was the call from the ref, but IMO he was already sitting on the ground (part of his lower back also grounded)when Steyn ripped the ball.

    Aside from this one though, the ref did let Brussouw and the Cheetahs get away with a few. Strauss for example, got his hands on a ball in a tackle, he was the driven of by two Sharks players. He then reached back in and scraped the ball out of the ruck. That should have been a penalty for the Sharks, as once Strauss was driven of the ball and the ruck had formed, he was not allowed to reach back into the ruck.

    On another occasion in the first half, one of the Cheetahs players legally got to our ball and McLeod had to take the ball out quick to get it wide and away from the pressure and one of their players that was part of the ruck slapped the ball out of McLeods hands. That should have been a penalty for offside.

    The rucks was a mess and sometimes Pyper just did nothing, yes the Cheetahs dis put on a lot of pressure and a lot of it legal, but there was quite a few that the ref also missed and was very lenient on.

    In the second half we eliminated this pressure, by flooding our break downs with plenty of quick strong cleans and then getting the ball out quickly from there, so Peyper didn’t have a chance to be lenient.

  • Comment 14, posted at 16.07.12 10:04:51 by Letgo Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 13) : I agree with you reagrding Ludik. Lets not forget then when we signed him from the Lions he was pushing hard for a Bok spot. Yes , he unfortunately got injured but given consistent game time he has all the attributes to be a solid Bok fullback. The problem is that Lambie is a good flyhalf but not good enough to be the Bok flyhalf due to his limited kicking abilities. And as long as Hyneke is coach there will be a premium placed on kicking flyhalves. So do th Sharks play Lambie at 10 and cost him a Bok place or do they play him at 15 where he is also very good and where the Bok coach likes him??

  • Comment 15, posted at 16.07.12 10:05:52 by SheldonK Reply

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  • Anyone know how bad Brussouw’s knee injury is? He played closer to his true potential on Saturday and it would be a pity if Meyer reconsiders his opinion on Brussouw’s form only for the player to be unavailable due to injury.

  • Comment 16, posted at 16.07.12 10:14:44 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : I think he’s better at fullback when he’s played a few games at flyhalf, because his best attribute at 15 is his ability to play the link creator in the backline. He took the ball as first/second receiver and joining the line for the Boks to great effect and I think it is because of his gametime at flyhalf. He can definitely play 10 for the Sharks and 15 for the Boks and when Morne finally breaks something (a nail :mrgreen: ) or anything that forces him out of the game for a while, Lambie will be ready to take that spot and show that his 78% kicking is just as good as Mornes sometimes 80% kicking.

    If you want the best kicker as the bok flyhalf you have to pick Grant anyway. He kicked 45 from 48 this season. Way better than Morne and as far as I know, Lambie’s stats are still higher than Morne’s this year.

  • Comment 17, posted at 16.07.12 10:18:50 by Letgo Reply
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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) : @Letgo (Comment 17) : … And if Lambie plays fullback for the Sharks, who’s going to play flyhalf?

  • Comment 18, posted at 16.07.12 10:19:48 by Letgo Reply
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  • NEW JUST IN FROM AUS:
    - Cooper has been handed a 1 match ban and will miss the Sharks game!!!

  • Comment 19, posted at 16.07.12 10:57:06 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 18) : Well during the Currie Cup, assuming Lambie is with the Boks, it looks like it will either be Viljoen or Bosman at flyhalf. I quite like Bosman at 10. I feel for Viljoen though after making the move from the Cheetahs where he looked really good to completely falling out the mix at the Sharks.

  • Comment 20, posted at 16.07.12 11:01:04 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 15) :
    His kicking is poor based on what exactly??

    - better kicking stats (80% success rate) than Morne Steyn and kicks well tactically.

    (this part is aimed at coaches and not at you personally mate)
    A player doesn’t kick worse because he kicks less…AS EVIDENT BY MORNE STEYN’S TACTICAL (ie. kick the ball away) KICKING IN THE ENGLAND SERIES

  • Comment 21, posted at 16.07.12 11:04:32 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 21) : What is Lambie’s kicking stats at international level compared to Steyn? I persoanlly think Lambie does kick well but he could also use some work on that area of his game. Its all about a coaches perception though as I guarantee he doesnt pick his side on stats- if he did I think the Bok team would look a lot different. So thats why I said Steyn will be picked ahead of him, and so will Goosen when fit. I think Lambie is a better ball player than both of them BUT Hyeneke likes a flyhalf that he perceives is a good kicker. To be honest the form flyhalf in the country is Peter Grant by a country mile, but again the vast majority of people perceive his kicking to be a weakness.

  • Comment 22, posted at 16.07.12 11:20:16 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 22) :
    Yeah I agree that it all goes about the Coach’s point of view…I do believe, however, that Lambie has NOT been given a chance at 10 (2 or 3 subs and 1 start if im not mistaken and that with a weaker pack).
    The main problem with Springbok coaches are that they are afraid to try new things. I mean look at what Cruden is doing when coaches put their faith in him – he wont necessarily push Carter out but DAM HE IS COMING CLOSE!!

  • Comment 23, posted at 16.07.12 11:52:39 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 23) : Carter is nearing his 30′s… Cruden will get his shot.

  • Comment 24, posted at 16.07.12 12:19:42 by Letgo Reply
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  • @pienaar111 (Comment 23) : Now you see I think Cruden has been better in Supe rugby than Carter, but again I dont think the coaches have the guts to leave Carter out cos if Cruden stuffs up the their heads will be on the block for going with him. I think its kinda the same with Hyneke and Steyn. If Hyneke leaves him out and the Boks lose cos Lambie missed a kick then people will call for his head cos he left Morne out. Will see what happens now that Michalak’s contract is over.

  • Comment 25, posted at 16.07.12 12:23:43 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 25) : carter has not played a lo due to injuries…same scenario as Pat..

  • Comment 26, posted at 16.07.12 12:51:28 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 26) : So Ice if you were Hyneke Meyer would you pick Lambie for the Rugby Championship if he play no further rugby until then? If were me id probably pick him in the squad but I dont think id start him.

  • Comment 27, posted at 16.07.12 12:53:55 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 27) : nope..I comment on the Cruden is better than Carter part..I doubt that would have been true if Carter played all the games, injury-free. Cannot think you can make that statement in this instance..that’s all.

  • Comment 28, posted at 16.07.12 12:57:21 by Ice Reply
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  • look to the left, look to the right, no Pat Fanclub in sight so I can say that I thought Lambie was not 7 good. He looked out of sorts – must have been his injury, Ludik looked so much better when he came on. You could argue that the momentum swung already but I really though Ludik had a great game.

  • Comment 29, posted at 16.07.12 13:34:04 by rekinek Reply
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  • Whitehead really had some nice touches on attack but with Fransie doing the people crushing he would always had less ball.

  • Comment 30, posted at 16.07.12 13:35:33 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 2) : I think Burden will manage if he has to, this was very physical and committed Cheetahs side. But I must agree that once heavies in the form of Bismarck and Alberts got onto the park it really looked better.

  • Comment 31, posted at 16.07.12 13:37:42 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 31) : I am more worried about the disruption to line-outs and scrums. I guess those would improve with more game time, but the Sharks have never really been in the position where Plum could afford to rest Bismarck long enough to give Craig more game time.

  • Comment 32, posted at 16.07.12 13:57:57 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @rekinek (Comment 29) : I’m in the Pat Fanclub, maybe vice captain just behind Shaz. Look Pat shouldn’t have been played, they should have rested him and right now I think Ludik is back to some of his best form and it would be stupid of any coach to replace him in their team.

  • Comment 33, posted at 16.07.12 14:00:22 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 32) : There was a few games here and there where I felt both the Sharks and Burnden (and even Bissie) could have benefited had they played Burden for 30/20 min.

  • Comment 34, posted at 16.07.12 14:02:32 by Letgo Reply
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  • @Letgo (Comment 33) : That ankle injury could not have healed properly – I saw nothing unusual happening when Pat injured it again after taking the Cheetah’s kick – no twisting or excessive contact

  • Comment 35, posted at 16.07.12 14:04:58 by Bokhoring Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 35) : He just put some weight on it in staying up in the tackle. It’s a ligament injury, you have to give those some time to heal. I fell over on my ankle two months or so ago and it still feels a bit tender when it’s cold or I stretch it further than normal. Granted the players have better conditioning and physio and medicines to help them heal, but if it’s not ready then you shouldn’t push it and the coaches shouldn’t have given a 21 year old, who really wants to prove himself to the Bok coaches, the power to make the decision.

  • Comment 36, posted at 16.07.12 14:47:45 by Letgo Reply
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