Richard Ferguson

Club or country?

Written by Richard Ferguson (Richard Ferguson)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Stormers, Super Rugby on 24 Jul 2012 at 12:23
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The Sharks take on the Stormers at Newlands this weekend, and could in the process undo a lot of good work the Cape based franchise has done, finishing top of the log and securing what could be a South African hosted final, and potentially a South African Super Rugby champion.

The question now is, should South Africans get behind the Stormers this weekend, and book a final at Newlands, which could well produce a South African winner, or do we back the Sharks, who even though they are in fantastic form at the moment, will find the going tough having to travel back to New Zealand to take on either the Chiefs or the Crusaders in a final. That said though, if you were either the Chiefs or Crusaders, which of the two teams would you rather face in the final? The more predictable, yet almost unbeatable Stormers who have only lost twice this year so far, or the Sharks, who are unpredictable in form, but could beat any team on any day, should they so wish.

We are all aware of the effect a winning Super Rugby franchise has on the Springbok setup, with the Bulls winning the Super Rugby trophy in the year the Springboks lifted the World Cup. Whether this effect was purely coincidental, or whether a significant mental adjustment comes into from a South African team beating the best Australia and New Zealand has to offer, remains to be seen. One can argue that New Zealand won the World Cup in the year the Reds won Super Rugby, which flushes that theory down the drain.

Posting this article on a Sharks website might be a big mistake, as I am sure every single person here will be screaming their hearts out for the Sharks come Saturday evening, but would it not be better for the Stormers to win this weekend, and host a travelled and jet lagged New Zealand outfit the following weekend, giving the South African team a great head start towards lifting the trophy?

Every single New Zealander is getting behind the Sharks to win this weekend, as it would mean a New Zealand hosted semi-final, and an almost guaranteed New Zealand Super Rugby winner. Should we, as South Africans, not also put our country before our club and see the bigger picture?

For me, the answer is quite simple. I am a Shark supporter, and will back them and support them all the way, hoping that they do in fact make the Super Rugby final, for the first time since that dreadful day in 2007. That said though, should the Stormers upset the fancied Sharks this weekend, I wouldn’t be too sad, knowing full well that the Stormers will be hosting a final, having beaten what is probably the form team at the moment, and have the best shot they’ve had to lift the coveted trophy.


  • “For me, the answer is quite simple”

    Sharks forever

  • Comment 1, posted at 24.07.12 12:26:45 by SharksRTB Reply
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  • Its simple, business is business….

  • Comment 2, posted at 24.07.12 12:28:45 by Uli Reply
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  • Rich – this is a very good article and a great point you raise. I know that you’re asking this as a rhetorical question, but yes… obviously we all are going to be screaming for the Sharks regardless :)

  • Comment 3, posted at 24.07.12 12:41:18 by robdylan Reply
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  • @robdylan (Comment 3) :

    This question is raised more towards the non-Stormers and non-Sharks out there.

    It would have been much easier to ask the question if the game was between the Bulls and Stormers, but I don’t mind that the Sharks are there!

  • Comment 4, posted at 24.07.12 12:47:14 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • As a Freestate supporter:
    I think and hope that the Sharks win the semi. They are playing complete rugby at the moment. [and have a whole whack of poached Freestaters in the side]. The Stormers are playing such boring rugby, yes they win, but man it is painful to watch.

    If the Sharks win, and have to travel, they should have the self belief that they can beat either the Chiefs or Crusaders. It is that simple.

  • Comment 5, posted at 24.07.12 12:53:34 by Loosehead Reply

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  • Well my point of view regarding this is SHAAAAAAAAAARKSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

  • Comment 6, posted at 24.07.12 12:54:03 by watarota Reply

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  • Such a calm response, I thought Rich was dead for sure

  • Comment 7, posted at 24.07.12 13:00:04 by Clayton(PJLD) Reply
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  • Does Newlands not in anyway count as a home game for the kiwi teams, especially the Saders? :twisted:

  • Comment 8, posted at 24.07.12 13:23:16 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 8) : The Cape Crusaders will be out in force if the Stormers host a home final.

  • Comment 9, posted at 24.07.12 13:32:58 by Loosehead Reply

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  • STORMERS!!!! :twisted: :cool:

  • Comment 10, posted at 24.07.12 13:36:41 by wpw Reply
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  • Club above country always!!!!

  • Comment 11, posted at 24.07.12 13:37:55 by Viking Reply
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  • Hmmm… tough one but I’ll back the Sharks . The Sharks jersey complements my rugged good looks – I know for a fact this won’t be the case when wearing Stormers gear.

  • Comment 12, posted at 24.07.12 13:45:58 by vanmartin Reply
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  • I doubt if I’ll even be watching the final if the Sharks lose, this is not SA against NZ and AUS, it is us – “the Sharks” – against all of them.

    Sorry but I don’t care what happens to the Stormers and I don’t care if a South African team wins or not, I just want the Sharks to win.

    When the Rugby Championship comes along I’ll support my country.

  • Comment 13, posted at 24.07.12 14:04:53 by Letgo Reply
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  • Its quite simple…each team for themselves until they are knocked out then im fully behind any team from South Africa. Simple as that! Common the Sharks…no stupid last minute penalties this time!

  • Comment 14, posted at 24.07.12 14:17:27 by SheldonK Reply

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  • @SheldonK (Comment 14) : Same here

  • Comment 15, posted at 24.07.12 14:42:23 by vanmartin Reply
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  • Bugger the country, this is a franchise/provincial competition. So I say GOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! SHAAAAARRRRKKKSSS!!!

  • Comment 16, posted at 24.07.12 14:44:38 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • hehehe and some here sometimes wonder why i don’t support any franchise, mine is not playing, so stuff the rest! :lol:

  • Comment 17, posted at 24.07.12 15:01:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Letgo (Comment 13) : Great answer! There are 15 teams in this comp. I support only one of them. my second team is the sharks B team.

  • Comment 18, posted at 24.07.12 15:07:22 by jako Reply
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  • I say back the Sharks!! Imagine how you would feel if you back the Stormers and they win, only to go on and get humiliated by the Crusaders in the final at Newlands!!
    The best team on the day should win, whether they have to travel or not.

  • Comment 19, posted at 24.07.12 15:10:36 by fouriedr Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 17) : Our sensors have however detected you possess trace amount of affinity for the Sharks. Unfortunately not enough to support them in any meaningful way but a sufficient amount to dutifully play the role of the jealous lover on their fan site ;-) :twisted:

  • Comment 20, posted at 24.07.12 15:47:24 by vanmartin Reply
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  • @vanmartin (Comment 20) : :mrgreen:

  • Comment 21, posted at 24.07.12 16:09:40 by Ice Reply
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  • I support the Sharks, then the Bokke and Marcell Coetzee and Dan Carter.. :lol:

  • Comment 22, posted at 24.07.12 16:12:26 by Ice Reply
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  • I support the Sharks, the Natal Sharks, the Sharks u/21, the Sharks u/19, the Bokke and all their various other incarnations. Oh, and the Bulldogs, don’t ask me why.

  • Comment 23, posted at 24.07.12 16:29:18 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • I could never want another team to beat the Sharks. Even if it means South Africa has a better chance of winning the trophy.

  • Comment 24, posted at 24.07.12 16:58:35 by lostfish Reply
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  • If the Sharks can break through that Stormers defense, they will score tries and win, if the Sharks defend like they did on sat i dont think the Stormers will score any tries, they didnt look like scoring any this whole season. If they beat the Sharks, they deserve to host the final, will they win the final? maybe if they play the Chiefs but not Crusaders

  • Comment 25, posted at 24.07.12 20:23:32 by pierre_mackie Reply
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  • For me its every Kzn, starting with the Sharks, Dolphins Cricket then Amazulu , age group teams and all Kzn Schools, any true WP or Bull supporter will tell you the same.Bokke(Country) is what happens when Kzn doesn’t..

  • Comment 26, posted at 25.07.12 09:29:46 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 22) : :shock: No Lambie?! :lol:

  • Comment 27, posted at 25.07.12 09:43:12 by KingRiaan Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 26) : Speaking of the Dolphins cricket. How about that 311* by Hashim?

  • Comment 28, posted at 25.07.12 10:20:16 by Die Kriek Reply

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  • Hashim to me is to SA cricket what Pat is to SA rugby, both Kzn boys what more can you ask for? What really bugs me though is when we let a youngster like Jessie Kriel from Pmbg College slip through the Sharks hands to the bulls, he outshone even Affies players who beat College on Saturday quite convincingly!!

  • Comment 29, posted at 25.07.12 11:50:04 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 29) : Big loss, he was potent in the Craven Week matches!

  • Comment 30, posted at 25.07.12 11:53:53 by MikeVS Reply

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  • Did you see him against Affies?? Sublime!!

  • Comment 31, posted at 25.07.12 11:58:59 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 31) : Didn’t see the whole game but you can see he is pure class!

  • Comment 32, posted at 25.07.12 12:01:52 by MikeVS Reply

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