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What we can take from this loss…


Written by Sharon van Wyk (Shaz)

Posted in :Original Content, Sharks, Super Rugby on 4 Aug 2012 at 15:03
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All over the rugby world pundits who consider themselves seriously knowledgable fellows will be nodding sagely and saying how impossible it was for the Sharks to even have a hope of beating the Chiefs in the Super Rugby final.

They will be pointing out the homefield advantage the Chiefs had, and going on ad infinitum about the travel factor. There will be much slapping of backs and self-indulgent “I told you so’s” and fancy computer graphics will be replaying how the Sharks failed in their most important task in recent years.

What there won’t be is honesty and a realistic appraisal of what went wrong and why the Sharks lost the final. And whilst Sharks supporters the world over can justifiably be proud of their team reaching the final after two incredible matches, none of them will be happy with the non performance of their heroes in what should have been a much closer contest.

I’ve been told for years that as a Sharks supporter I have to accept inconsistency, off days and my team not pitching up for certain games, apparently at random. I have to accept their habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I have to accept that their “off days” are inevitable and will, as such, inevitably leave me feeling perplexed.

But what I’ve never been told, what has never been proferred is a rock-bottom honest reason for why possibly the best provincial team in world rugby with some of the greatest rugby talent currently on this planet in its ranks cannot get its A into G when it really counts.

If you ask me what went wrong in Hamilton I would say this: For the first 15 minutes of the match they believed they could win. And then, for some mysterious reason, they lost that belief. They became desperate men in the time it takes for a springbok to make a baby springbok (and no, I don’t mean large men wearing green and gold jerseys, I mean the actual antelope which has one of the shortest mating times on the planet at less than 10 seconds from start to finish.)

Did someone flick a collective switch on that wet and dismal field of play? What caused the team that dispatched the Reds and the Stormers with swagger and style to become a side even worse than the one the Lions thrashed a few weeks earlier?

Self belief and belief in one another is the stuff that wins matches. Not fit bodies. The body is the tool to winning a match. But the mind is the key that controls that tool. And in Hamilton the Sharks’ individual and collective minds were somewhere else, they were frail and insipid and completely ineffectual. And weak minds beget weak bodies.

No matter how tired a body gets, the mind can overcome it and push it to extremes. Mind over matter is the phrase which is used to encompass this fact and it says it all. If you will it hard enough, it will happen. If you believe it, it will come to pass. Ask Andre Agassi who his greatest opponent was and he will tell you it was himself. Ask any enlightened sportsman or woman what the hardest thing to conquer is and they will tell you that the mind is the biggest single obstacle to success.

The Sharks wanted the victory, but were not convinced they could get it. There was doubt on that field at Waikato Stadium, and doubt is the single biggest slayer of sporting hopes and dreams.

We (and by we I include the team and coaches and everyone at the Sharks) all know just how brilliant we are… We know that we have it in us to be consistently the best team in the world. The Manchester United of world rugby. But what we don’t have is a way to channel that knowledge into pure, incorruptible self assurance. Self belief is the armour that the Sharks so sorely need to become indestructable, but at the moment that armour has needless chinks in it… weak spots which the opposition hone in on and aggravate.
When the Sharks play as one single unit, undaunted, brimming with confidence and in complete control of their own destiny, they are unstoppable. The trouble is that they only usually have three or four games in a season when this actually happens.

There is only one conclusion to be had from all of this, and that is that the Sharks need to find someone who can channel the talent on and off the field into a cohesive and consistently unshakable team of people, who believe completely that no matter what the odds, no matter how strong the opponent, they can win. And that person is a top class mental coach who understands what is required to get the mind to overcome matter and become enlightened 100% of the time.

If the Sharks can achieve this, and enjoy playing the type of rugby we all know they are capable of playing, they will win everything they put their minds to winning.
Without it, they will continue to be the greatest rugby side never to have lifted the Super Rugby trophy. And we, as supporters, will continue having to accept that our team can never be relied upon to perform to the best of their ability.



62 Comments

  • Nice one Shazzers. There are what u say, and still some more into this, I believe.

    Actually within the first 20 I could see we were not gonna make this one. And thank God for that, cause the dissapointment would have been so much worse.

    It was to me a case of forwards not supporting, Bis deffo not being what he can, Pat was strides out of his game (and I blame Plum for not playing him off the bench after a long injury) and so I can go on.

    Was it one travel too long, taking into consideration the magnitude of the situation? I guess it was.

    However – I am proud of the guys – I think they are GUTTED, but in the same breath, Well done to the Chiefs – they had superb handling, passing, dominance in the rucks. They played like winners (albeit my taking that they were given some leniency ito obstruction etc- that aside).

    We came short, but we can still stand BLOODY TALL! I am proud of the Boys!

  • Comment 1, posted at 04.08.12 15:25:59 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice. I’m with you 100%. The boys were stuffed but still gave their all. I think they hit the wall and as any sportsman will tell, when that happens there is absolutely nothing one can do.

  • Comment 2, posted at 04.08.12 15:55:37 by Bayshark Reply

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  • What can we take from the game… we are 0 from 4 in SupeRugby finals.
    Plum made a mistake selecting Lambie at 15 in a final after not playing for a few weeks.
    Our forwards left their grunt in Durban.
    McLeod is an average scrumhalf who was made to look better behind a dominating pack. He is completely exposed when the forwards are on the back foot.
    Everytime we had possession we kicked it away or knocked it on which makes it very hard to build up to anything or apply any pressure.

  • Comment 3, posted at 04.08.12 17:09:10 by lostfish Reply
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  • BRILLIANT ARTICLE!!
    Forget the coaching, tactical and execution errors made on the day…the MIND CAN BRING YOU THROUGH.

    Recently watched “Navy Seals: Making the Cut” on Discovery and one of the drill seargents or senior officers made this comment – “When you feel like you cant go any more, then you have reached 30% of your true potential”

    With the above in mind…I NEVER SAID IT WAS AN EASY TASK TO MASTER THE MIND!!! – the exact reason why the Navy Seals are the super elite!!

  • Comment 4, posted at 04.08.12 17:10:47 by pienaar111 Reply

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  • BUT I am proud of the boys for picking up the pieces of the crappy start to the season and gaining form and momentum. It is just a pity we didn’t start a little better and close out the close games in the beginning so we could’ve had a more favourable draw come finals rugby.

  • Comment 5, posted at 04.08.12 17:11:49 by lostfish Reply
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  • @lostfish (Comment 3) : you expanded what I tried to say in a nutshell! I believe these guys know how to win..too many other stuff to “blame” it on one thing. Not that I disagree totally on that head coach thingy, but still – way too many factors!

    I don’t think our gameplan worked – against a team like this, possesion is vital, handling is vital, distribution is vital. We came short, for whatever reasons.

  • Comment 6, posted at 04.08.12 17:25:43 by Ice Reply
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  • This game was almost a carbon copy of a game back in 2001.

    Super 12 final Brumbies vs. Sharks in Canberra – we were never in the game and on that day too, we looked lethargic and it was evident within the first 10 that we weren’t gonna win.

    Anyway, can we get a CC thread going – it’s time to look at our stocks with the Springboks out and time to move on as quickly as possible. ;-)

  • Comment 7, posted at 04.08.12 17:57:31 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • the heads dropped the moment the Chiefs scored that first try, Shaz. At that point, they went from believing they could win, to knowing they couldn’t.

  • Comment 8, posted at 04.08.12 18:25:19 by robdylan Reply
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  • Hi guys. I just want to firstly state how proud I am to be supporting the sharks. They climbed mountains this season, but in the end they had to scale Everest and it proved too much. They’ll no doubt be kicking themselves for having made their road more challenging than it needed to be, and as much as I wanted to believe they would win today, like a pensioner on the slot machines, the odds were against them from the start.
    I want to say that the spirit on the blog this year has been great, with even Megatron being gracious at times. What a pleasure it is to know that we support the best team in SA and that we are the best supporters in SA. We don’t boo other teams and we don’t desert our own.

    Lastly I like the look of this current sharks team and I believe they’ll be even better next year. Its a pity Freddie is leaving and if I had to nitpick I’d like to see more options at scrumhalf (how’s that for being diplomatic) but most importantly this young team has now achieved the belief that’s needed to star in many more finals to come.

  • Comment 9, posted at 04.08.12 18:33:20 by CapeShark Reply
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  • What did the Sharks get from the finals series?

    A bunch of very tired and disappointed players, who when their next contract renewals come up are going to take a more serious look at those NH offers with the minimal travel schedules.

    The Reds got a nice home-game payday.
    The Stormers got one.
    The Crusaders got one.
    The Chiefs got two.
    The Bulls got a rest.

    Not to diminish their accomplishments. They achieved much, but ultimately the return on investment was negative.

  • Comment 10, posted at 04.08.12 19:35:17 by fyndraai Reply
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  • Really glad I’m not a springbok.

  • Comment 11, posted at 04.08.12 20:19:10 by klempie Reply

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  • it’s amazing how quickly things & “opinions” change :D

    just yesterday…

    “There is an unbelievable self-
    belief in this Sharks team
    currently, all born out of trust in
    their own ability, that of their
    team mates, and the fact that
    nothing is impossible.

    They will travel to Hamilton to
    face a Chiefs side with a similar
    belief, a similar type of game and an equal desire to lift the Super Rugby trophy for the first time.

    There isn’t a coach in the world
    that can explain the moment or
    instance self-belief trumps the
    odds – it is one of the greatest
    mysteries in sport and the reason we follow it so passionately, looking for that one moment where you go out and defy the odds, you achieve what people said would be impossible. A singular moment where you reach absolute nirvana.”

  • Comment 12, posted at 04.08.12 21:04:02 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 12) : THAT my dear was from a Stormers Supporter whom I have very much respect for…

    This article is from your Shazzie-Poo (or what is it you call each other?)

    Its opinion Kings-cant-play-rugby-poo….

  • Comment 13, posted at 04.08.12 21:44:54 by Ice Reply
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  • Fair questions Sharon. However, I think losing today is not hard to understand. The forwards especially had nothing left for this game.

    But you are spot on that the coaches haven’t done this team justice. I’d rather give it some time before doing the post-mortem, but a cursory analysis will show that the late surge had more to do with player confidence, leadership and passion than coaching.

  • Comment 14, posted at 04.08.12 22:25:29 by Big Fish Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 13) : bwahahahaha

  • Comment 15, posted at 04.08.12 22:32:38 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 15) : :wink:

  • Comment 16, posted at 04.08.12 22:45:02 by Ice Reply
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  • There needs to be some kind of balance. To say that ‘not believing’ or mental frailty was the only, or main reason for this loss would be very narrow minded. Sure I believe it is an important factor, but the believe started going when they were clearly being dominated by a stronger, smarter, fitter, fresher, fiercer … ect opposition.

    Mental preparedness was only one of about a 100 factors that had an influence in this loss. For us to have won this game, more than one thing would have had to gone our way. Had Jordaan gotten over the try line in that break of his, it may have lifted the players and the game could have turned.

    I don’t think the guys just stopped believing or didn’t give their all, there was just too many things that we would have had to overcome to win this game.

    It’s already a tough opposition as it is. Take into consideration, not only the travel, because I think you can overcome that in the 80m on the field to an extent, but everything else that was counting against the Sharks and you realize nothing short of a miracle would have been enough to give us victory today.

    We can however ask why we only started our campaign 5 weeks ago. Before the Bulls game I didn’t see the fire in the players that was needed to win this year.

    You can’t just play for 5 weeks and expect to win a 21 week competition. We left it for to late and I think the most we can take out of this loss is that no matter how much you want it, the best chance you can give yourself of taking this cup is by building a good campaign, like the Chiefs did, get your home semi and final and then give your all there.

    We shouldn’t let this discourage us, but instead, motivate us to give ourselves a better shot next year. It may come down to one game, but what you did the whole season will determine how good your chances are in that game.

  • Comment 17, posted at 04.08.12 22:59:49 by Letgo Reply
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  • Firstly it is not possible to win this competition from 6th place. The Sharks gave it a valiant try but it was one mountain to far to climb. For that reason I believe the playoff games need to be cut from the competition, and only the top 4 take part in semi-finals and final. Having this conference system complicates the selection of the top 4, but the current system will burn out the players.

    The Boks now have a serious problem – the first choice front row and at least one key loose forward must be totally knackered. The RC starts in 2 weeks and the replacement front rankers especially do not inspire much confidence.

    The Sharks need to aim for at least 4th place next year. To do that we need consistency – how different could yesterday have been had we simply won against the Lions. We needs some injection of new ideas into the coaching staff – e.g. to finish the season before the playoffs as the team with the most tackles missed is not something we can repeat next year and hope to be more successful.

  • Comment 18, posted at 05.08.12 07:26:50 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 18) : If we had beaten the Lions, we can almost be certain that we would have lost against the tjietas.

  • Comment 19, posted at 05.08.12 08:36:14 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • Whatever the reason – we beat the Bulls and Stormers to the final and won less games than them. So Wah.On Sat morning they took my mind off farming for 80 mins along with a bunch of my mates at our local across the river. Sharks foreva!!

  • Comment 20, posted at 05.08.12 09:42:55 by Caratacus Reply

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  • I don´t want to single out one player as the reason for our poor performance, because a team is a team and responsibility is shared.

    But in my opinion the rot started with McLeod. We had loads of possession for the first 15 minutes, on attack on the Chiefs 22, with great front-foot ball and the defense spread thin on the left, when McLeod knocked at the most crucial ruck.

    From then on just about every pass went to Michalack´s feet or behind him, his decision-making was poor throughout, he kicked ball away and his general play was just plain ordinary.

    Our forwards continually had to run back to cover behind our static backline. Energy wasted scrambling meant we didn´t get the usual go-forward ball, got dominated at the rucks, and our backline, with the slow service, just fell apart.

    Basically, a vicious circle came into existence from which we couldn´t escape.

  • Comment 21, posted at 05.08.12 10:42:07 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @rhineshark (Comment 21) : We are in dire need of a scrummie that will set the Sharks alight – McLeod is anyways already 28, kinda getting old for a scrummie, especially an average scrummie.

    Hope our scouts are sifting the entire SA schools to find one, ’cause SA in general are short on scrummies – I mean Jano Vermaak got a call up, that says it all (also points to HM thinking he’s still building a team for the blue Fools :roll: )

  • Comment 22, posted at 05.08.12 12:23:21 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : I think Hougaardt is a very good scrummie, but he needs quick ball. In all the tests he started we did the idiotic line up behind the ruck crap to advertise to all and sundry that the kick was coming or waited for ten minutes for the forwards to get into position for the inevitable two-up drive forward.

    We need a change of thinking in how we use our number 9´s. For far too long we have had the likes of Joost and du Preez, who didn´t have to do much more than kick the ball.

  • Comment 23, posted at 05.08.12 13:26:22 by rhineshark Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 22) : He is fishing around for a Euro club so he might not be around for too much longer.

  • Comment 24, posted at 05.08.12 15:32:52 by lostfish Reply
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  • I think this article is a bit harsh. The Sharks, in my view were tired and felt they had to take a lead early on. When this didn’t happen they definitely lost their way. By the second half the Springboks were starting to turn their minds to the Rugby Championship.

    But to say its all in the mind is wrong. When the body’s strong the mind is obviously going to be better. Yes we have had a record of losing when we shouldn’t which is frustrating. Also a few players were shown up. But the Chiefs are a very good side. And we did travel 55 000kms in 3 weeks which is totally insane. I live in Singapore so jet lag is something I have experience at. Believe me it is debilitating and takes time to recover from. Lets give our boys their due. They did very well since the England tour. The issue we have is that we have to start better. That should be the focus and lesson learnt.

  • Comment 25, posted at 06.08.12 04:12:15 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 25) : I agree. It’s not the game we should be disappointed about.

    We didn’t give ourselves a good enough chance by ending 6th and will have to improve on that if we want any chance at winning the trophy, but still a very good second half of the season surge by the boys.

  • Comment 26, posted at 06.08.12 07:56:38 by Letgo Reply
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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 25) :

    Very good points raised!

    Welcome to the site!

  • Comment 27, posted at 06.08.12 07:56:54 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 25) : Now That I like! And agree on.

    What frustrates me is people saying we choked. We did not. To choke the playing field needs to be level, and this was not the case.

  • Comment 28, posted at 06.08.12 08:07:11 by Ice Reply
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  • Time for the coaching staff to be expanded. Add a mental coach immediately!

  • Comment 29, posted at 06.08.12 08:51:52 by King Shark Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 28) : We didn’t choke, we just didn’t have enough in the tank for MI3 and as Rob said previously after the Chiefs first try the heads dropped and never came back up. I have to say though that while I was gutted in 07 when we were robbed this time I am ok because we were never really in it.

  • Comment 30, posted at 06.08.12 08:52:03 by lostfish Reply
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  • Probabe Sharks Currie Cup 22?
    1. Herbst
    2. Burden
    3. Chadwick
    4. Bresler
    5. Sykes
    6. Botes
    7. Deysel
    8. Mthembu
    9. Mcleod
    10. Bosman
    11. Sithole
    12. Whitehead
    13. Jordaan
    14. Ludick
    15. Viljoen

    16. Cooper
    17. Redelinghuys
    18. Schonert
    19. Du Toit
    20. Cloete
    21. Reinach
    22. Mjekevu
    23. Prinsloo

  • Comment 31, posted at 06.08.12 08:54:56 by Argex Reply

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  • Or 23 I should say?

  • Comment 32, posted at 06.08.12 08:56:11 by Argex Reply

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  • @King Shark (Comment 29) : Sharks need to hire Morne.

    He also correctly predicted that if we go out to just defend it will be suicide against the Chiefs. I know the travel factor took a lot out of the boys, but I was not impressed with Plum’s selections (12-15) and kick and hope tactics for the game.

  • Comment 33, posted at 06.08.12 08:57:14 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 28) : Only team that can really be described as choking this year was the Stormers. They had all the advantages against the Sharks in the semi (travel, home game, weeks rest)

  • Comment 34, posted at 06.08.12 08:59:56 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • Well done to the Chiefs, Still unbelievably proud of the boys!

    Cant believe that some of the guys have to fly all the way back to home and then down to CPT for the start of the Currie Cup.

    No breaks for some of the guys!

  • Comment 35, posted at 06.08.12 09:28:24 by MikeVS Reply

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  • @Bokhoring (Comment 33) : It was always going to be difficult for the Sharks to play their game in the wet.

  • Comment 36, posted at 06.08.12 09:32:45 by lostfish Reply
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  • @MikeSebMatt (Comment 25) : “By the second half the Springboks were starting to turn their minds to the Rugby Championship.” there’s no truth in this statement WHATSOEVER!

    when the Sharks lost to the Lions and Bulls to the Stormers some here and elsewhere proferred this lousy excuse as a reason why their teams lost! if this fallacy had any truth in it, it would clearly show the players in question to be truly UNPROFESSIONAL.

    rubbish.

    if the sharks coaches thought the ONLY way to win in hamilton was to score 1st and drummed this up on their players, then they’re to blame for the final failure! there can’t be only ONE way to wina rugby game.

  • Comment 37, posted at 06.08.12 10:12:15 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : :lol: MEG YOU NARSASIST YOU!!!! :evil: :evil: Were you bullied at school by any chance ??

  • Comment 38, posted at 06.08.12 10:43:45 by CLASSIC SHARK Reply

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  • @CLASSIC SHARK (Comment 38) : nope, no bullies. :smile:

  • Comment 39, posted at 06.08.12 10:56:28 by Megatron Reply

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  • OMG, now i see HM says Lambie is a FB,
    http://www.rugby365.com/article/48911-i-can-coach-morne-back-to-his-best
    I mean really, WTF, 1st hes a FB, then hes a FH, then FB, what the hell?

  • Comment 40, posted at 06.08.12 11:32:27 by Uli Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 1) : :twisted: The guys were up for it, yes but Pat should have been played in from the bench! His previous game was just as uncertain.
    However, I saw the biggest factor in this game was the intimidation by the Chiefs that was left unchecked by the umpires. Walsh has shown that he is a poor ref during his not so sober career and just like the RWC, he was selected to blow this game for what he is willing to do. So too the brilliant Brown. He is sure to return to NZ soon and be accepted back in the NZ fold. Watch this space.
    After a good boxing match, both NZ players were cleared to play???
    Now for the last couple of decades their players are sited by different rules (remember Bakkies was sited for 5 weeks for shouldering and Bullet was sent out of RWC’95 for punching) and after this final where the shoulders were used liberaly, playing off-side, holding on to players and blocking there will be NO sitings. In fact Walsh was more of a mentor to the Chiefs ASKING them not to play opponents off-side, tapping SBW on the shoulder and ignoring Daniel.
    Now place yourself in an office where your management allows this and see what the impact of the team will be!!
    Our boys knew they could compete in the game, but not against the same incompetent refs. When that became clear, they knew they had been had. The same expressions on the Boks faces when the NZ REF OF THE YEAR!!?? ensured a NZ championship. When you are 16 – 0 down by half time in a final, anyone will find it hard to fight back!
    It may be seen as bad style or Sour grapes to gripe after the fact, but as long as we zip our lips the NZ referees will be licensed to swing games. I will stand by this! We have seen this blatently against the Cheetahs (by Brown) and other teams this year. G Henry is on to something in accusing NZ of manipulating games.
    Well done Sharks and Plum and we look forward to see our boys play well in the green and gold! :twisted:

  • Comment 41, posted at 06.08.12 11:57:55 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 41) :

    You didn’t complain much when Walsh favoured the Sharks in a few calls against the Stormers?

    Sharks cannot blame the ref for losing this game.. I think you are way off the mark with your ‘theory’..

  • Comment 42, posted at 06.08.12 12:20:37 by Richard Ferguson Reply
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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 41) : did you complain when jonker blatantly missed a knock-on by morne steyn @ loftus that resulted in a cj stander try? the brumbies were BLATANTLY robbed by jonker and lourens van der merwe and jake asked lyndon bray about it, you reckon SA refs “manipulate” games too or just kiwi ones? :roll:

  • Comment 43, posted at 06.08.12 12:48:29 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 42) : I think the Sharks just didn’t have the mental fortitude to deal with the Chiefs’ aggression and somewhat underhanded tactics (not unlike most NZ teams).

    That is where I feel the travel had the most impact, they got under our skins quite early, and the Duppie brothers as usual were first to fall for it :roll:

    When you are fatigued it is so much harder to deal with difficult circumstances in a mature and rational way.

  • Comment 44, posted at 06.08.12 12:57:28 by FireTheLooser Reply

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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : Bismarck has been pretty disciplined in the pushing and shoving area of late – I recall both his penalties came at ruck – and both those were pretty 50-50 in my opinion

  • Comment 45, posted at 06.08.12 13:03:45 by Bokhoring Reply
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  • @Richard Ferguson (Comment 42) : :twisted: In fact I did. That game agian showed him up to be a sub standard ref. With all the punches and shouldering over the ruck as well as the holding on to opposition he let go, proved that he is not the guy for a final!

  • Comment 46, posted at 06.08.12 13:07:56 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 43) : I see your point and I love the fact that TV will soon play a bigger part in these games. I did not like the fact that Tim scored a try from a knock on as well. There is a vast difference between a mistake by the ref and a history of calling close games through the decades. If I am wrong then the boks were very k*k against the Ausies in RWC!

  • Comment 47, posted at 06.08.12 13:13:08 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • @FireTheLooser (Comment 44) : “they got under our skins quite early, “and the Duppie brothers as usual were first to fall for it :lol: :mrgreen: bwahahahahahahahahaahahaha this is lank funny

  • Comment 48, posted at 06.08.12 14:17:55 by Megatron Reply

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  • @KILLER SHARK (Comment 47) : are you aware that the Bulls have a 100% record with marius jonker as a referee since he started in 2007? :shock:

    are you aware that jake asked for a break down of ALL the penalties awarded against his team as he did not understand how the bulls (at the time the most penalised team averaging 11 pens a match) suddenly stopped infringing and HIS team who were nowhere in the penalty stakes copped 15 penalties?

    no answer was forthcoming from sanzar.

  • Comment 49, posted at 06.08.12 14:26:58 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Ice (Comment 28) : i fact to choke you need to be a favourite :roll:

    I decided to blame Pokkel and Culling Son – they probably got together, drank some equisite whiskey and created moerse jinx :twisted: :lol:

  • Comment 50, posted at 06.08.12 14:44:36 by rekinek Reply
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  • @rekinek (Comment 50) :

    Firstly….the Scottish spell it ‘whisky’ without the e! So take of your American spell check. :twisted:

    Secondly we waited until just before half time before we had the first whisky. :oops:

    Thirdly…..well at least the whisky was nice even in defeat! ;-)

  • Comment 51, posted at 06.08.12 14:59:01 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) : drunkards

  • Comment 52, posted at 06.08.12 15:05:14 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 52) :

    Fourthly…..you can’t afford to get drunk on the whisky’s that Culling Song buys….they too damn expensive… :mrgreen:

  • Comment 53, posted at 06.08.12 15:06:08 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) : :mrgreen: How was I to know that you were having Scotch.

  • Comment 54, posted at 06.08.12 15:08:52 by rekinek Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 51) : give the woman a break, she speaks more languages than you! Whiskey, Whisky who cares, as long as it drowns the sorrows! :razz:

  • Comment 55, posted at 06.08.12 15:09:27 by Ice Reply
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  • @Ice (Comment 55) :

    I wasn’t nearly as heartbroken about this loss than I was about the 2007 final.

    I actually handled it very well.

  • Comment 56, posted at 06.08.12 15:11:49 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 56) : ja, me too. As I said, after 20 moins I realised the umph was out of our boys. I did however not take any chances and softened the blow with some LeVoka and Champers during the game :lol:

  • Comment 57, posted at 06.08.12 15:28:28 by Ice Reply
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  • @Pokkel (Comment 53) : any whisky can get you motherless, just open your wallet.

  • Comment 58, posted at 06.08.12 16:05:35 by Megatron Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 58) : True…..so can any Spot-On brand spirits as well.

  • Comment 59, posted at 06.08.12 16:10:56 by Pokkel Reply
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  • @Megatron (Comment 37) : Strong reply. I don’t mean they set out to change focus, but when you’re tired, down by 20 points and have another big challenge around the corner, surely it’s natural for the focus to change slightly. It’s not unprofessional, but human! And we can’t escape our humanity.

  • Comment 60, posted at 07.08.12 03:49:06 by MikeSebMatt Reply

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  • @Megatron (Comment 49) : That is my point. The players are forced to be very professional but the administration is controled and manipulated. Their say in the IRB is also worrying. They have changed (and are still changing) the rules of rugby to fall in line with their strong suits and away from weaknesses.

  • Comment 61, posted at 07.08.12 10:26:52 by KILLER SHARK Reply
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  • I don’t want to say that I’m content with the loss, but I’m not as upset about the result as I thought I would be. Yes, I expected a better showing, but all factors considered for the past 5 weeks, I’m actually damn proud of them.

  • Comment 62, posted at 07.08.12 10:56:29 by JustPlainSHARK Reply

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